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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Question: What is everyone currently mining? on: May 28, 2018, 02:33:20 PM
You have so much time to study mining is not as good as to study the direction of an altcoin, maybe you can make more money in the investment field, mining now only masternode may be profitable, those who pow mining mode They will all lose money.

Have you tried it? Are you miners? Or may that's just your opinion?

If you have tried to be a miner, how long you tried it? Just curious  Grin
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Hashrate and Estimate mining profits explanation on: May 28, 2018, 02:28:26 PM
-snip-

Thanks for using coincalculatos, let me clear this difference.


So that was your online calculator? Good work!

I try it then I found CLO, and that remembering me to the guy above.

If I'm right, SpceGhst was on CLO mining a few weeks ago.  Cheesy
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Question: What is everyone currently mining? on: May 28, 2018, 01:46:12 PM
If this post posted on Mining (Altcoins), you should get a different answer. Mining still profitable, if you visit Mining (Altcoins) section, you could find many miners still exist even miner with the more expensive electricity bill. What make them difference with failed miners is "experience."

You can't invest on Crypto if no miner exist. Who will confirm your transaction if the miners not exist?

This comment totally right:

Mining will help keep the system stable! The Miner gets paid for that job, and helps the altcoin grow! Any digital money system requires and requires miners! Make sure that no organization or individual controls Blockchain!
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Newbie suggestion on: May 28, 2018, 01:26:58 PM
Newbie here. any suggestion for the trusted bitcoin wallet? for now im using coinbase.

Did you mean you are using an exchange wallet since all this while to get your tokens? Despite several warnings that you shouldn't use an exchange Wallet fill any form be it airdrop or bounty. The implication is that you might lose your coin if it's not traded in coinbase.

There are better wallet you can use like MEW, Metamask. You can also create a wallet on imtoken.

I thought OP only wants to know which trusted (or may secure) Bitcoin wallet. But since this is OP's first post, who knows.
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We trust in crypto! on: May 28, 2018, 01:00:29 PM
How long do you think will the cryptocurrency be popular?
Cryptocurrency has been popular nowadays, and this popularity will stay depend on the community. If the community wants Cryptocurrency still exist, that will be.

Does she substitution the usual fiat money?
Of course no, Cryptocurrency just be an alternative payment or trading assets. Every country has their own regulation about payment systems.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Newbie suggestion on: May 28, 2018, 12:36:29 PM
I think that you need to choose between the type wallet. If you think that a hardware wallet is good, then you can choose Electrum. If you therefore need a wallet for Ethereum or ERC-20 tokens, you can use Metamask or MyEtherwallet.

Electrum isn't hardware wallet, that was Desktop wallets.

Like the other said, keeping our coins on exchange or web wallet equal to saving our money in the other person.
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Newbie suggestion on: May 28, 2018, 08:09:09 AM
If what you mean with trusted, equal to secure.

Hardware wallet such us Ledger Wallet, Trezor, Etc.

Desktop Wallet
Full Node: Bitcoin Core
Lightweight: Electrum, Exodus, Copay, Armory, etc

Or may paper wallet.  Smiley
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I got bored and created a simple mining monitor software on: May 28, 2018, 07:46:52 AM
May I need to get bored to be able to create something useful as what OP create.  Grin

Mining monitoring tools always useful for most miners. Moreover, when we are using our own monitoring tools, safer.
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Hashrate and Estimate mining profits explanation on: May 27, 2018, 04:25:45 PM
Are you doing the calculation on the first and second point at the same time? Profitability calculation can be changed each time, even in the second (depends on a condition such as a diff, network hashrate, coin price, etc.)

What shown in the pool, it was a calculation that related to the pool conditions (each pool will be different).
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8 RX580 Hashrate Drop on: May 27, 2018, 04:13:23 PM
All set to compute, and update to latest adrenaline 18.5

I just read back all of OP's post above, seem like all those troubled cards were only down a bit its hashing speed. Have you tried to give dummy output on to that troubled cards?

As you said:

Long time lurker, finally looking to join and become a master miner. Did some searching but didn't come across any answers. I've got an issue with my settings I believe, where I can get each card to individually mine Ethereum ~31.5-32.5 MH/s, but when I connect all 8 GPUs, only the card connected via HDMI consistently mines at that rate, and the rest are 27-29 each.
311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8 RX580 Hashrate Drop on: May 27, 2018, 03:25:29 PM
Reduce memory clock on cards 3 & 5 down to 2100 and see what happens.  All cards are not created equal.


Same hashes as originally stated. 32 on GPU with HDMI, 27-29 on all others. Zero memory errors. I actually dropped card 2,3,5 to 2150 - these are the 2 samsung and 1 Hynix memory cards.

EDIT: Tried changing voltages of other cards and leaving card 2,3,5 at 900 and they go back to abnormal memory errors.

Have you switched your cards to compute mode? Just in case you forget about that. You are using Adrenalin, right?
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Board + MSI Afterburner (Cannot unlock core voltage) on: May 27, 2018, 03:14:15 PM

I'm doing the same with that guides before, also work for me.

thanks will try later, had a new problem my system wont boot only black screen no bios display. arg! hate this mobo

Try to reset CMOS and make sure to re-setting your bios with proper setup.
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8 RX580 Hashrate Drop on: May 27, 2018, 02:51:41 PM
only the card connected via HDMI consistently mines at that rate, and the rest are 27-29 each.

That was AMD's cards issue. Sometimes one dummy output was enough to solve that. But in other cases, all of the cards or at least cards that troubled need the dummy output (I experienced on it with my AMD cards).

But may it will a bit different if you were running dual-mining. As other said, doing single mining will be better on your rigs stability.
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency into fiat money on: May 26, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
As above said, you can sell your whatever coins at your local exchange (if any) and withdraw your fund to your local bank account.

Bitcoin listed on most of the exchange (global/local), so when your coins aren't registered at your local exchange, you should change it to Bitcoin first at another exchange then transfer the Bitcoin to your local trade. As easy as that.
315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin Mining Guide on: May 26, 2018, 09:30:40 AM
We need to close this matter. The author misleads beginners. It offers to mine Bitcoin on a computer. Information has long been is not relevant. The author needs to read the forum more, not publish the wrong information.

First, This is a one-half year ago post. (November 12, 2016, 05:47:22 AM)

Secondly, OP last active on November 27, 2016, 04:53:34 AM

So, OP wouldn't hear what we said on this thread.  Grin
316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I ran a entire global financial network on one mighty little Moonlander 2 on: May 26, 2018, 07:37:06 AM
Whatever information that you want to spread, if you present it with less well formatting, your goals wouldn't deliver to the audiences.

Hey mister obvious, open a bitcointalk post formating coaching business you will have a bright future. Lazy ass !

It isn't about lazy or not.
One straight question for you, Are you read all of that OP's post? Posting with proper formatting easier to read and understandable, am I wrong? Or may you are the old man that be talking above?  Roll Eyes
317  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / BITMAIN VS VGA on: May 25, 2018, 03:04:19 PM
2 bulan kebelakang jika kita melihat di section Mining (Altcoins) banyaknya diskusi yang membahas tentang Bitmain yang mengeluarkan produk baru

nya mengambil Algoritma coin yang biasa ditambang GPU, Hal ini menjadikan beberapa members terbagi dua, ada yang Pro dan Kontra akan kehadiran

Bitmain ini dan banyakya issue tentang dibalik mengapa Bitmain mengeluarkan Produk nya yang seakan-akan mematikan para miners GPU.

Beberapa members yang Pro tentang Bitmain, mereka mengeluarkan pendapat nya bahwa dengan ada nya produk tersebut maka bisa

menghemat konsumsi daya listrik serta penggunaan alat yang lebih mudah (Plug n Play) tidak seperti menggunakan GPUs yang harus di build terlebih

dahulu dan selalu ada masalah ketika melakukan setting/konfigurasi pada mining rig, juga produk bitmain ini memiliki cooling system yang baik serta

memiliki efectivitas dalam penempatan alat tersebut.

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Sebaliknya Members yang Kontra berpendapat bahwa Bitmain melakukan "Silent Mining" sebelum produk mereka dijual kepasaran, mereka

menambang altcoins yang dulunya anti-ASIC (Algoritma) sampai pendapatan untuk membangun Produk tersebut ROI, jadi istilah nya Bitmain Melepas

Produk mereka kepasaran adalah Produk "bekas" yang terlebih dahulu mereka gunakan.

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Juga ada yang berpendapat bahwa situasi ini adalah "Pertarungan" antara Developer hardware Bitmain dengan Developer software (algoritma coin) yang

anti-ASIC dan terlepas dari kevalidan data/informasi tersebut juga ada yang menyebutkan bahwa Developer Hardware Bitmain bisa menembus Algoritma

Altcoins yang Anti-Asic (seperti algoritma Ethash, yang memiliki koin populer ETH dan Algoritma Equihash).

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Dan ada yang berpendapat juga bahwa ada kerjasama antara Developer Software (anti-ASIC) yang bekerjasama di "bawah tangan" yang memberikan

script/code/algorithma anti-ASIC kepada perusahaan Bitmain tersebut. sehingga hal ini menimbulkan gejolak bagi para miners GPU dengan

menyebutkan bahwa para developer tidak memikirkan GPU miners tapi mereka hanya memikirkan "Berapa banyak uang" yang diterima dari Perusahaan

Bitmain tersebut.

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Berikut ada beberapa Analisa dari para miners GPU di luar sana yang kritis terhadap Bitmain ini:

■ Siapapun yang membeli Produk Bitmain (produk untuk menambang Altcoins) sama saja mematikan para GPU miners.

■ Bitmain berencana mengontrol semua coin Altcoins secara Centralized yang awalnya tanpa Produk bitmain, Altcoins ini Decentralized

■ Bitmain memanipulasi harga coin Altcoins (Algoritma pada produk mereka) dipasaran sehingga harga altcoin tidak karuan
dan ber-implikasi pada harga Bitcoin yang cenderung turun dan tidak Stabil.

■ Bitmain meng-Hold banyak Altcoins yang mereka tambang sebelum produk mereka di Launching.

■ Bitmain telah menghancurkan thread Mining Altcoins yang sudah 8 tahun berdiri (Philipma)

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Terlepas dari pendapat yang PRO dan KONTRA tersebut, saya tertarik untuk melihat Keunggulan dan Kekurangan antara Produk Bitmain VS GPU. Berikut Beberapa Produk Bitmain:

Antminer E3, Batch 3


Total Hashrate:
180MH/s
(Hashrate bisa berubah sesuai Dag File/Dag Size tiap coin)

Power consumption:
800W

Algoritma Ethash:
(coin Populer)

Ethereum (ETH)
Ethereum Classic (ETC)
Musicoin (MUSIC)

Spec lengkapnya:
(Official Website)

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180522174346413QnsK8vmu0702

Kalkulasi Harga dalam Rupiah
(Tidak termasuk Ongkos Kirim):

Asumsikan harga $1 = Rp.10.000

$1876 x Rp.10,000 = Rp18.760.000

Bandingkan dengan Mining Rig

asumsikan membangun Rig dengan Spec seperti dibawah ini:

- Asrock Pro BTC H81 R2
- Processor Series G
- RAM 4 GB
- PSU Corsair RM1000i x 2
- USB Riser Ver008C
- VGA RX580 8 GB x 6

Note:
VGA
RX580 x 6
Jumlah VGA 6 untuk dibandingkan dengan total hashrate produk bitmain

TDP
185 W x 6 = 1110W
(Default)

Total hashrate
181.2 MH/z (whattomine.com)
(Default)

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Antminer Z9 mini


Total Hashrate:
10k Sol/s ± 5%

Power consumption:
300W

Algoritma Equihash:
(coin Populer)

ZCash (ZEC)
ZClassic (ZCL)
Bitcoin Gold (BTG)

Spec lengkapnya:
(Official Website)

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180516100211649AUOpGcK4066D

Kalkulasi Harga dalam Rupiah
(Tidak termasuk Ongkos Kirim):

Asumsikan harga $1 = Rp.10.000

$1520 x Rp.10,000 = Rp 15.200.000

Bandingkan dengan Mining Rig

asumsikan membangun Rig dengan Spec seperti dibawah ini:

- Asrock Pro BTC H81 R2
- Processor Series G
- RAM 4 GB
- PSU Corsair RM1000i x 2
- USB Riser Ver008C
- VGA 1080ti x 13

Note:
VGA
1080ti x 13
Jumlah VGA 13 untuk dibandingkan dengan total hashrate produk bitmain

TDP
250 W x 13 = 3250W
(Default)

Total hashrate
10790.0 h/s (whattomine.com)
(Default)

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Kesimpulan

Produk Bitmain

Keunggulan:

- Produk Bitmain lebih unggul dari segi Harga dan Power Consumption

Kelemahan
- Ketika Produk tersebut tidak lagi profit maka Nilai jual(kembali) produk Merosot tajam, itu pun jika ada yang mau membeli

- Ketika Produk tidak dipakai lagi, minimal dapat di preteli PSU dan Kipasnya kemudian Casing nya bisa dipake Hiasan atau bisa dijadikan tempat duduk, bisa juga tempat monitor.

Mining Rig

Keunggulan:

- Bisa Switch Algoritma apapun yang sesuai dengan type VGA selama compatibel

- Nilai jual kembali cukup bagus bila dibandingkan dengan produk bitmain

- Bisa dipakai bermain game, solitare misalnya  Grin

Kelemahan
- Harga Hardware yang mahal terutama harga VGA baik baru maupun bekas

- Harus Merangkai terlebih dahulu hardware nya dan minimal mengetahui cara build CPU secara umum

Mudah-mudahan bisa menjadi pertimbangan para miner dalam membeli alat mining altcoins
 







318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New Coin to Mine on: May 21, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
And from now, new coins will come to you (look at the post above). Don't need to stay at announcement thread or any other site.  Grin
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I ran a entire global financial network on one mighty little Moonlander 2 on: May 21, 2018, 05:50:10 PM
Whatever information that you want to spread, if you present it with less well formatting, your goals wouldn't deliver to the audiences.
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New Coin to Mine on: May 21, 2018, 01:28:34 PM
I think mining bitcoin or alternative cryptocurrency will solely depends on the environment such as weather, electricity, hashpower and some technical difficulties like settings.

That's the point, that was what makes difference between experienced and regular miners. We can't choose easily to live in which areas and condition. But with a lot of experience, we can optimize whatever condition.
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