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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 27, 2015, 09:29:17 PM
Is there is any market place for XEM? Where can we buy/sell stuff for XEM?

No where, at this point NEM is an under-marketed code that NEMsters circle jerk. It is as of today pointless. Hopefully this changes soon.

Your signature is silly.

It's not like you. I went way back reading your posts. It took awhile. You weren't always like this.

Look at things this way.

Most coins are like fighter jets. They swoop in, and poof they are gone. They are exciting. They move real fast and can turn on a dime. Everything is very quick. They flash high up into the sky, or crash into the ground. A lot of times both.

This is what we are used to.

NEM is like an aircraft carrier. It takes awhile to chart it's path. Its turns are slow and deliberate.

It is very boring to watch at times. But remember, it is built to carry the planes we all like. It is very powerful. And although it may take a long time to get there, when it finally does, everyone will know it.

Come back and help us. It may take some time, but it will be very rewarding. We could use your help

I believe you care.



I do care, maybe too much. I am really hoping I am wrong but i just feel like we need more creative marketing and actually doing something and less talking.
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 27, 2015, 12:13:55 AM
Is there is any market place for XEM? Where can we buy/sell stuff for XEM?

No where, at this point NEM is an under-marketed code that NEMsters circle jerk. It is as of today pointless. Hopefully this changes soon.
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 22, 2015, 10:44:11 PM
When I try to install the NEM wallet I have an error message saying that there is no version of Java detected on my computer yet there is Java 8 installed. When I install the latest version of Java wiith the lastest update, just to be sure, I still have the same error message. What to do?

are you on a 32 bit rig?
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 15, 2015, 08:31:44 PM
New moderation policy

Due to obvious reasons, from now on we will install a much more intolerable policy to deliberate FUD and trolling. Criticizing, being angry and complaining are all fine within reasonable limits. But when somebody is intentionally lying and trying to hurt NEM with FUD and trolling, they will have all their comments from that point on deleted.



I hope this won't be abused from the moderators side as some of us as investors have a right to opinion even if it does't feed your agenda nor any egos.
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 15, 2015, 01:38:49 AM



You think we are already seeing a dead cat? I see some volume, are second phase redeemers selling off? This coin is a trap with no use, there has to be an explanation. I doubt we will see the dead cat until JULY when people finally realize this coin offers nothing and the developers lose steam, as I can tell they are already. The big announcements that came aside launch were anything but, and nothing on the radar about any product.

You think we are already there?

This coin is worthless yet it is worth your time to defame it? Either you're addicted to negativity or there is some other motive at play here.

You reak of fear.

Fear of what exactly Sigmund? I don't hold any alt AKA shitcoins anymore, just BTC. If you notice, my signature is blank, unlike the NEM trolls that plagued this forum for months. There were times when every shitcoin thread I checked in a single day had some NEM troll spouting off about how XYZ is a shitcoin and NEM is the best thing since shaved vaginas.

I just love giving people a taste of their own medicine.... and screwing around in Photoshop  Grin

Of course I do believe NEM will eventually collapse, just like 99% of all shitcoins. Sure there could very well be some more pumps, seeing as how the "new economy" is in reality exactly like the "old economy" - just a bunch of whales and computers trying to manipulate the price so that they can dump their bags of worthless crap onto some sucker for a higher price.

On my end he is right, I reak of fear because I fear I have invested in a dead project that is apparently going nowhere different any other coin has gone... and died.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 14, 2015, 05:49:14 PM



You think we are already seeing a dead cat? I see some volume, are second phase redeemers selling off? This coin is a trap with no use, there has to be an explanation. I doubt we will see the dead cat until JULY when people finally realize this coin offers nothing and the developers lose steam, as I can tell they are already. The big announcements that came aside launch were anything but, and nothing on the radar about any product.

You think we are already there?
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 14, 2015, 02:00:16 AM
dandruff, they gave you money, for doing nothing and you call them scam? Too bad blockchain cant be used as backbone.

I paid for my stake, I paid to invest in a new economy movement, all I got was a worthless coded client and monopoly money. As an investor we have rights to say we are unhappy with our investment. Do something and quit talking.

NEM was always clearly stated as a voluntary association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association) and not as an investment.

NEM is what you secretly wish Bitcoin was: fast, stable, and secure. We've put together an amazing platform and you are more than welcome to build on top of the NEM block chain platform. Check out our API here: http://bob.nem.ninja/docs/


What can I do with NEM that I can do with BTC? N O T H IN G
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 14, 2015, 01:05:42 AM
dandruff, they gave you money, for doing nothing and you call them scam? Too bad blockchain cant be used as backbone.

I paid for my stake, I paid to invest in a new economy movement, all I got was a worthless coded client and monopoly money. As an investor we have rights to say we are unhappy with our investment. Do something and quit talking.
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 13, 2015, 11:12:13 PM

If you guys would walk the walk and not blame the community for your flaws you might actually make a name for yourself. But it is nothing but lip service and quieting any criticism, sticking to the status quo I see. "Movement" my behind.

dandruff1138,

We are not blaming the community for anything. The above was a clear explanation of where NEM stands, and what we have to offer now. It is also there so that people can see and understand that something has been done, but more importantly, it is there to signal that this is not a pump and dump scheme. We have just launched, are working on things, but this is just the beginning and there's still a lot to be done. We will talk about the future, but that is another story.

As for the criticism, everyone can play the role of the critic, especially on bitcointalk. But it's quite something to be able to offer some thoughtful criticism, that is the tricky part and the part we are actually looking for yet mostly fail to see in your posts.



"We are not blaming the community for anything." except for the 6 month delay because the community didn't beta test enough for you. You change your narrative to fit your scheme. How sad and goes against the ethics of what this movement was supposed to be. Now it is just a circle jerk of people sending worthless codes back and forth to one another. This coin does N O T H I N G !
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 13, 2015, 06:16:15 PM
After some discussion with a coleague of mine we came to the conclusion that this took a year + to develope, and the launch was 6 moths late. Taken these facts into consideration, do not expect anything groundbreaking for at least, AT L E A S T another 12 months. Prepare for 40 sats in the next 12 months of discussion and no results. There will be talk and talk and more talk. Look at this realistically. The crypto world second hand moves fast, and this coin will be the next reddcoin, syscoin, vert, etc... These developers lack marketing skillset. They also have nothing innovative but talk about innovation. Talk gets us no where in this game.

Hello dandruff1138,

Have you built something similar? Do you really know what it takes? Are you a dev? I very much doubt that.

Anyway, I think it would be best if you would sell your stake in NEM and just move to your other projects. There's no point in further wasting your time and ours. In fact I want to repeat where we stand with NEM today; people who understand and want to bet on this project are very welcome but must see this is a long term project, not a pump and dump scheme. People who do not believe in NEM are also free to leave and would do us a favor in doing that. There will not be much of a price increase with all the people who have payed or done almost nothing for their XEM and are just waiting for the right moment to dump. The sooner the filtering happens and uninterested people leave, the faster we move forward beyond the initial confusing phase.

If you somehow missed this post, please make sure you read it. It might give you and your colleague some thoughts regarding what your next moves should be.

A brief clarification and overview

I think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive.

After so much time and energy invested, NEM has finally launched. As you have seen, we have had a fairly smooth launch and our platform seems to be behaving as expected until now. A lot of work has been put into this, and our dev team has done everything to ensure NEM is an innovative and solid platform to build upon. Thus, our launch is a major step forward in proving that NEM is real and that our dev team can really deliver valuable innovation. But while we have launched, NEM is far from complete. In fact, all the work leading to our launch has only been our first major step in taking NEM from concept to reality. We have a great team and a solid technological foundation to build upon, so on the one hand that's everything one can wish for, but on the other, there is still a lot of work to be done. Although we are already ahead of most crypto projects, you must understand that NEM's features, killer apps and ease of use are not here yet, but are expected to be implemented until V1. This is why the price discussion, though seemingly justified now, will probably look at best negligible in the long run. We are planning to hit the masses, but not with the current version.

The real journey has just begun. There will probably be a lot of hurdles and unexpected events along the road, but this will no doubt be one hell of a ride judging by all the great people we have on the team and passionate community members. What I am really saying, is that the real value of NEM lays in the future. Both dev team and marketing team have been and are still working hard because this is not the point when NEM is complete and we can relax, quite the contrary. There's still a long way to go and one year from now, NEM will probably be a lot closer to what we want. Once our we will have those things implemented, then we will be ready to offer real value and utility. That will be the point where we will hype things and everyone will hear about NEM. Right now, well, we're not there and we have work to do, but this goes one step at a time.

Bottom line: The bad news is there is no guarantee in this game, despite best intentions we could fail. The good news is we have a great and passionate team which is still here and even bigger after one year, we have not run away with your money(big plus for this since it's very rare in crypto-land Cheesy) and we have delivered a solid, viable, though not yet complete product. This are the valuable things NEM has to offer now and the things with which it sets out on this journey. As it stands, chances are in our favor but there's still a long way to go, so we'd better start working smart and working together. See you later.

This is a personal note and does not necessarily reflect the views of anyone else in the NEM Team.

Cheers,
xtester

NEM marketers are a solid team and NEM devs are amazing.

There is a lot of negativity and I know a lot of people wanted to wake up on launch day with a full blown ecosystem and be millionaires.  That didn't happen and people are let down.

Instead what we have is a very solidly built NIS with a lot of great APIs and not hardly any third party ecosystem.

As time goes by NEM devs will continue to make the platform even more robust and agile and NEM marketers will help to promote an ecosystem.  

Life at NEM had been very busy, and is very different now after launch than before launch and again will be very different after V1 as we will have had more time to get an ecosystem going and additional features and APIs that are not and will continue to not be found elsewhere.





"NEM marketers are a solid team"  Cheesy

You can show one step from nem marketers since launch or shortly prelaunch? Nem marketing dies not exist

If you want to know our recent activity, I'll try to list some.

NEM marketers have a budget of exactly $0 but with that budget run
Website (http://www.nem.io/)  
Forum (https://forum.ournem.com/)  
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM)  Almost 2,000 followers
Twitter (https://twitter.com/nemofficial) Almost 500 followers
Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ournem)  (Just starting out)
Weibo (http://weibo.com/nemchina)  
BTC38 (http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/xem/)

Contacted and got deals for the following exchanges and payment processor for XEM.
Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xem)  
Bittrex (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEM)  
Coingateway (https://coingateway.net/)  
And talks have been in the works for two more Chinese exchanges as well as another payment processor.  

The NEM marketing team makes special efforts to answer questions as soon as possible when they come up here on this thread, Telegram, forum, and Facebook too.  
 
Wrote everything on http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/ to make sure that all the community can work NEM.  

Wrote a press release last week: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-under-development-next-generation-205200639.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb&fb_ref=Default

Working with different news outlets to get stories published about NEM
Article: http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/04/07/nem-qa/
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113839/nem-launches-targets-old-economy-with-proof-of-importance
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113698/proof-of-importance-nem-is-going-to-add-reputations-to-the-blockchain
Article: http://8btc.com/thread-15618-1-2.html
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nem_interview_about_poi
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nempressrelease
and more coming later.

Helped to get these apps listing NEM as coin tickers:
Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coinfeed-bitcoin-dogecoin/id781662999  
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian&hl=en

Getting listed on CMC  https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC
And getting listed on Cryptocoin Charts  https://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/info
Getting listed on Coin Gecko http://www.coingecko.com/

Made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClzvI5EFss

Again, all right now with a budget of $0.  Actually worse than a budget of $0.  We have been spending our own money.  In my case over $600, and others have spent a lot more than me.  
 
So yes, marketing has been busy and hard at work and is still hard at work trying to make things happen in the future.  Hopefully soon we will get a real budget and start to really make a movement.  

What a lot of people wanted was to wake up one day at launch and become millionaires with a full ecosystem up and running built on NEM.  That is not realistic even in the best case scenario, but with a lot more hard work and time, it might just be possible.  I know it is my intention.  


If you guys would walk the walk and not blame the community for your flaws you might actually make a name for yourself. But it is nothing but lip service and quieting any criticism, sticking to the status quo I see. "Movement" my behind.
311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 13, 2015, 05:03:06 PM
After some discussion with a coleague of mine we came to the conclusion that this took a year + to develope, and the launch was 6 moths late. Taken these facts into consideration, do not expect anything groundbreaking for at least, AT L E A S T another 12 months. Prepare for 40 sats in the next 12 months of discussion and no results. There will be talk and talk and more talk. Look at this realistically. The crypto world second hand moves fast, and this coin will be the next reddcoin, syscoin, vert, etc... These developers lack marketing skillset. They also have nothing innovative but talk about innovation. Talk gets us no where in this game.
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 13, 2015, 02:53:10 AM
So much talk and such little results/product.  Roll Eyes
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 12, 2015, 01:24:17 AM
Well I didn't see this coming.  I thought XEM had promise but this downward slide since launch is disconcerting.  I expected an initial dump but also expected a correction upward that hasn't happened.  There doesn't appear to be any kind of game plan.  Those behind this coin need to get out front and center now to rally the troops.  I'm not selling my stakes but I hate to take a loss and add another blemish to my almost spotless track record of picking coins.  And I'm getting that uneasy feeling that you get when something doesn't feel right.  So is there a plan for this coin and if so what is it?       

I have to agree, but they will just call you a fudster and ignore you. Hopefully there is something in the works after a 6 month late launch.
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Active Team Members on: April 12, 2015, 12:26:02 AM
sliding towards 50 sats. Hope something is in the works. If we hit 50 sats before the second redemption phase we may see 30-40 sats... Undecided
315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Team Members on: April 09, 2015, 10:02:34 PM
What was the announcement that was going to be made this week?

Was there supposed to be an announcement sometime this week ?

Yes, here it is: http://blog.nem.io/progress-and-utility-of-nem/

 Smiley

thanks, i must have overlooked it!

What part of it is the big news?

Yeah seems like a launch announcement haha... "we are launching an intensive bitcointalk campaign" god damn we have 800+ pages, if this is going to just circle jerk here this is going nowhere. N O T H I N G can be done with this coin you can't do with 100 others.
316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Team Members on: April 09, 2015, 08:28:03 PM


I am actually worried by the lack of volume! Volume is non existent and we have very fast joined NXT out there by volume. There is no volume, no selling and buying which means nobody is interested! How come no one is interested when whole crypto community was waiting on NEM to be launched? To me, something doesn't add up here.

1. There is over 8 billion XEM supply (which is just stupid)
2. Over 4 billion XEM not in circulation
3. Most of the crypto crowd already have some
4. People are waiting for the price to drop before buying more.


Yep once the second redemption period gets on we will see supply drown the market, we will see 60 sats, then when people realize NEM is nothing different from NXT and you can;t do anything with it, 40-50 sats where it will stay indefinitely until something amazing happens, or it gets delisted and we are all bagholders. I am leaning towards the latter with the way things have gone so far.
317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Team Members on: April 09, 2015, 07:37:14 PM
HERE WE GO! BIG THANKS!
800 more XEM and I can start. Keep on sending!




I I think you meant 9,800 heh
318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Team Members on: April 09, 2015, 06:01:11 PM
We need the global commodity and raw exchange at which the goods limited in the nature would be on sale for XEM. There real oil with real delivery, the real market of seeds without GMO has to be on sale, real sugar, real salt, real water, and all that belongs to food and to the values limited in the nature. For fiat candy wrappers of XEM it is better not to trade. Let's build the real market of the goods limited in the world for XEM to build.

We do have an idea that can enable this!

With geolocation sellers worldwide. Buyer to find sellers of goods to their place of residence to close. So will the econemy grow faster NEM. On the world map will be visible to all countries sellers of various goods for XEM in real time.


That is an awesome idea. Something like certificates but based on NEM platform. Do it, and do it now in order to take Advantage of the low oil value  Wink

Yes, we need to trade with real goods! goods/XEM but not limited to the XEM/BTC, or even worse - the evil that will collapse XEM/USD, XEM/EUR, XEM/CNY. Money is evil and limited type BTC - an eternal isolation for XEM. Therefore, I urge all nemsters go to other markets. In the real market. Let it be an apple/XEM, banana/XEM, potato/XEM, etc. The price of real goods in the XEM!


I love all this talk, so when will we see results?
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Team Members on: April 09, 2015, 02:45:08 PM
use some nems buy some nems dump some nem tralalalalalala

88 sats = average next ae price

Over a year of Development, a launch 6 months late, and we have a coin that you can't do anything with you can't get with nxt, or any other coin for that matter, if that doesn't change quickly we'll see 50 sats soon.

Do I hear the 50 sats apocalypse again? Well, keep trying, maybe someone will sell.  Wink

I know your trying to spin it like I am done kind of fud spreading whale to take the heat off you guys but the fact is where we stand is we have a currency that works, but we literally can NOT so anything with it, it it's literally and laterally the same as 100's of other coins. Dear God please prove me wrong, then I would eat crow and be a happy investor, right now my nem is worth nothing and many of us are sliding into the red.

I also wager 100 xem that when we do hit 50 sats, and at this rate we most definitely will, then the developers will blame me or "fudsters" for the lure valuation. When in fact it will be due to lack of marketing, lack of product, lack of professionalism, lack of innovation.

Harnessing/staking poi, pos, posv, pis, we have coins that already do this, but if the only recourse is to just exchange this coin for btc, then nem is pointless. A wasted step where we lose.

I beg of you as an investor make me eat the biggest bowl of crow ever served, I am literally begging please PLEASE actually do something to make this coin have a reason to exist. And do not blame us. We did our part, we invested in your vision, and now you laugh in our face and label us to conveniently put us aside. I will not step aside. Follow through, no more carrot on a stick, give us tangible results.

Things are in the works. NEM was literally JUST launched. You are asking a lot from a small team of developers, as dedicated as they might be.

As an investor, you knew that this was all NEM was going to be at launch. You should have anyway. You should know that the truly valuable and innovative features of NEM (other than POI and multisig and the other things that set NEM/XEM apart from the rest NOW) are coming with V1 and that it will take some time to go from beta to V1. You really can't ask for any more than what is already there because this was the plan from the very beginning.

You're right as an investor I knew this was what to expect at launch... September 2014.
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread -100% Original Codebase - Over 70 Team Members on: April 09, 2015, 02:24:38 PM
use some nems buy some nems dump some nem tralalalalalala

88 sats = average next ae price

Over a year of Development, a launch 6 months late, and we have a coin that you can't do anything with you can't get with nxt, or any other coin for that matter, if that doesn't change quickly we'll see 50 sats soon.

Do I hear the 50 sats apocalypse again? Well, keep trying, maybe someone will sell.  Wink

I know your trying to spin it like I am done kind of fud spreading whale to take the heat off you guys but the fact is where we stand is we have a currency that works, but we literally can NOT so anything with it, it it's literally and laterally the same as 100's of other coins. Dear God please prove me wrong, then I would eat crow and be a happy investor, right now my nem is worth nothing and many of us are sliding into the red.

I also wager 100 xem that when we do hit 50 sats, and at this rate we most definitely will, then the developers will blame me or "fudsters" for the lure valuation. When in fact it will be due to lack of marketing, lack of product, lack of professionalism, lack of innovation.

Harnessing/staking poi, pos, posv, pis, we have coins that already do this, but if the only recourse is to just exchange this coin for btc, then nem is pointless. A wasted step where we lose.

I beg of you as an investor make me eat the biggest bowl of crow ever served, I am literally begging please PLEASE actually do something to make this coin have a reason to exist. And do not blame us. We did our part, we invested in your vision, and now you laugh in our face and label us to conveniently put us aside. I will not step aside. Follow through, no more carrot on a stick, give us tangible results.
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