NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[jabo38]

Hi,
what are the benefits of the Delegated Harvesting instead of local harvesting?

also you can shut down your computer and still harvest.

you can not shut down your computer and still harvest unless you have a remote NIS going.  Then of course you can shut down your computer. Just wanted to be clear on that.

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[Fatih87SK]

Hi guyz, I've downloaded & installed Java8 x64 on win 8.1
Also windows nem installer from here: http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/ (installed)
But when I run the wallet, it doesn't start. What should I do?

wallet starts to work then it's killed.
here's a vid: https://vid.me/riLS
How can that be possible? How to avoid this?

I had the same problem. Fixed it like this;

Go to; http://bob.nem.ninja/

Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip

Start runNCC.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
Start runNIS.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
runMON.bat

This will start a browser with the NEM wallet.

At step Start runNCC.bat or Start runNIS.bat a pop-up will appear asking you for 'Allow connection'.

Ps. This is a one-time process. After that you can start the wallet like you try to do now.

Are you also on Win 8.1 Fatih ?

Windows 7 Home Premium

[Fatih87SK]

Hi guyz, I've downloaded & installed Java8 x64 on win 8.1
Also windows nem installer from here: http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/ (installed)
But when I run the wallet, it doesn't start. What should I do?

wallet starts to work then it's killed.
here's a vid: https://vid.me/riLS
How can that be possible? How to avoid this?

I had the same problem. Fixed it like this;

Go to; http://bob.nem.ninja/

Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip

Start runNCC.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
Start runNIS.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
runMON.bat

This will start a browser with the NEM wallet.

At step Start runNCC.bat or Start runNIS.bat a pop-up will appear asking you for 'Allow connection'.

Ps. This is a one-time process. After that you can start the wallet like you try to do now.

Thanks a lot!
That worked fine for me, I'm syncing with the network now!
NIS info is not available yet. Trying to retrieve NIS info... (at block 13201)

No problem. Have fun with it!

[punkrock]

NEM really needs a standalone-client like NXT has, when its out of beta. Just a simple install.exe and after starting, just enter your passphrase. That's user-friendly. I know it took a long time, as I was active in NXT from the beginning, but that should be the goal for NEM, too.

[jabo38]

NEM really needs a standalone-client like NXT has, when its out of beta. Just a simple install.exe and after starting, just enter your passphrase. That's user-friendly. I know it took a long time, as I was active in NXT from the beginning, but that should be the goal for NEM, too.

The NCC is open source so anybody can build that.

[Eadeqa]

hope this helps provide some additional insight in to nem

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022311.msg11064695#msg11064695

72% of coins are controlled by a half  dozen people involved in the project. It's Ripple

[nextgencoin]

72% of coins are controlled by a half  dozen people involved in the project. It's Ripple

AWESOME!   

Buckle up folks...  we're about to shoot up to 4000 sats!!!   

I think he was being negative dumbass.


I'm sure NEMofiles think this coin will drop to 50 sats and then shoot to the moon. But let me give a more likely reality. This coin moves sideways for the indefinite future. NO way is anyone gonna trust this coin for any serious amount of time if it rises in price.

[sdersdf3]

Yes, of course. Though Ethereum and NEM are both working to realize the vision of Nick Szabo (and Hal and Wei, etc), I think the NEM team is definitely more pragmatic, despite all the PhDs on our team.

Ethereum also has PhDs. And they have advisors, do you have any?

Szabo gave them some advice.  He said their ideas are great but not their implementation.  (We can only guess about what he meant by that.  Maybe no need to make a new language from scratch when lots of languages already exist, or maybe no need to make it Turing complete?)

I seriously hope we can build NEM up enough for him to take a look here and give us better feedback.

Szabo said that about Ethereum? Really - where and when? Any links? That's interesting to read that as I'm coming across more comments expressing concerns about how practical (or not) Ethereum is going to be if and when they finish it.

[punkrock]

NEM really needs a standalone-client like NXT has, when its out of beta. Just a simple install.exe and after starting, just enter your passphrase. That's user-friendly. I know it took a long time, as I was active in NXT from the beginning, but that should be the goal for NEM, too.

The NCC is open source so anybody can build that.

No one will do that for free. There has to be a big bounty for this.

[sdersdf3]

Yes, of course. Though Ethereum and NEM are both working to realize the vision of Nick Szabo (and Hal and Wei, etc), I think the NEM team is definitely more pragmatic, despite all the PhDs on our team.

Ethereum also has PhDs. And they have advisors, do you have any?

Ethereum has an amazing team with lots of money. I am just not sure that they have a clear direction. They do a lot of cool stuff, though.

We don't have the same monetary resources, but we make up for that by being focused and having an amazing team of our own. Several people on the core team have PhDs, one guy is a professor, and another has run several successful businesses himself. Though we wouldn't mind having more programmers, I think we have a really incredible team as it is and by staying focused on building a generic block chain platform that others can build on top of, I think we can do amazing things.

That being said, if anyone wants to help us out by programming, please send me a PM
Also, please check out our simple API and build applications on top of the NEM block chain: bob.nem.ninja/docs/

makoto1337, could I get your input on this question asked earlier?:

5) I think one of the big issue facing this and a lot of other coins is that it's apparently really tough to code new features into cryptocoins -- either that or devs that code quickly in C++/Java in this space are few and far between - if that's the case - and I'm not sure whether it is or not - maybe it's because the financial rewards aren't large enough compared to what they could be getting elsewhere, or C++/Java are just tough to code period, or all of the above). It just seems to take a very long time to introduce or test even the smallest new changes on this coin and most other coins from what I've seen. I think this also factors into the delay in getting this on other alt exchanges (not that there are many left anyway these days after Poloniex, Bittrex and Cryptsy).

It'll be interesting to see if Ethereum (whenever it's finally done) offers a platform where devs can more quickly iterate and create new features. I keep hearing that their use of this simplified "Serpent" variant of Python is quicker to code.

Anyway, I'm really struck by how long it seems to take to get new things done on any coin, including bitcoin-related stuff like sidechains - not singling out NEM at all in this. Would be great to get from any NEM devs some perspective on this question to those of us on the outside looking in.

Is NEM going to be a platform like Ethereum's? How is it going to be a better platform to build apps? (Easier, faster to code and/or more robust)? Are people going to be able to create new coins on it?

[wiser]

Well I didn't see this coming.  I thought XEM had promise but this downward slide since launch is disconcerting.  I expected an initial dump but also expected a correction upward that hasn't happened.  There doesn't appear to be any kind of game plan.  Those behind this coin need to get out front and center now to rally the troops.  I'm not selling my stakes but I hate to take a loss and add another blemish to my almost spotless track record of picking coins.  And I'm getting that uneasy feeling that you get when something doesn't feel right.  So is there a plan for this coin and if so what is it?   

I have a buy order at 61 on Poloniex. Care to fill it for me?

As for your questions, I don't know where you've been but if anything, NEM errs on the side of overplanning and overtesting and overthinking and overdeveloping and even, overinventing. It's actually kind of funny that you are saying "there doesn't appear to be any kind of game plan." I don't think I've run into a coin with MORE game plan since DNotes.

Are you serious?  The value plunges and you come back with an offer to buy at 1/3rd of the price when the coin launched.  Why would you even make such an absurd post.  There are many people that are wondering what is going on.  I'll take a loss and not miss a step.  Some won't be lucky enough to have the cushion to write it off.  This is crypto, months don't work.  Where have you been?  Amazing.

I guess I've been out of the loop reading the NEM plan, which you apparently missed. Here it is again: http://blog.nem.io/progress-and-utility-of-nem/

While you're at it, read the entire website and the other blog posts and you'll get caught up.

In the mean time my buy order on Polo still stands. Next week I might lower it to 41 sat so you better act now if you're wanting to get out

[Come-from-Beyond]

In the mean time my buy order on Polo still stands. Next week I might lower it to 41 sat so you better act now if you're wanting to get out

Once NEM reaches Nxt's distribution curve the price will start rising. You may never see 41 if that point is reached earlier.

[nextgencoin]

I think he was being negative dumbass.

Really?!?!?       ROFLMAO!  


Edit:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI

That's so 2014, you need a new tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU

[quadruples]

Hi guyz, I've downloaded & installed Java8 x64 on win 8.1
Also windows nem installer from here: http://bob.nem.ninja/installer/ (installed)
But when I run the wallet, it doesn't start. What should I do?

wallet starts to work then it's killed.
here's a vid: https://vid.me/riLS
How can that be possible? How to avoid this?

I had the same problem. Fixed it like this;

Go to; http://bob.nem.ninja/

Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip

Start runNCC.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
Start runNIS.bat (wait a moment until it has started properly)
After waiting;
runMON.bat

This will start a browser with the NEM wallet.

At step Start runNCC.bat or Start runNIS.bat a pop-up will appear asking you for 'Allow connection'.

Ps. This is a one-time process. After that you can start the wallet like you try to do now.

Thanks a lot!
That worked fine for me, I'm syncing with the network now!
NIS info is not available yet. Trying to retrieve NIS info... (at block 13201)

No problem. Have fun with it!

Unfortunately this has not been tested on Unix, or more specific OS X 10.10. The installer for version 0.6.26 did not worked, so I grabbed the TGZ file...

Followed the same steps as mentions for Windows and adapted for *nix - but see the following Java exceptions when starting 'nix.runMon.sh':
- download nis-ncc-0.6.26.tgz
- untar
- open a terminal
  cd ~/Downloads/package
  ./nix.runNcc.sh
- wait a moment and open a new terminal session
  ./nix.runNis.sh
- wait a moment and open a new terminal session
  ./nix.runMon.sh

**** broken ****
. . . .
2015-04-12 19:37:12.333 INFO FrameworkServlet 'Spring MVC Dispatcher Servlet': initialization completed in 1477 ms (org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet initServletBean)
2015-04-12 14:37:12.333:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started o.e.j.s.ServletContextHandler@33617539{/,null,AVAILABLE}
2015-04-12 14:37:12.340:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:main: FAILED ServerConnector@6e46d9f4{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:8989}: java.net.BindException: Address already in use
java.net.BindException: Address already in use
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind0(Native Method)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:437)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:429)
   at sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketChannelImpl.bind(ServerSocketChannelImpl.java:223)
. . . .
Caused by: org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLException: Database may be already in use: "Locked by another process". Possible solutions: close all other connection(s); use the server mode [90020-175]
   at org.h2.message.DbException.getJdbcSQLException(DbException.java:332)
   at org.h2.message.DbException.get(DbException.java:172)
. . . .
 (org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter main)
2015-04-12 19:37:15.355 INFO NEM Infrastructure Server 0.6.26-BETA shutdown... (org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter main)


Common guys - please test before releasing it. I did a port scan between port 8000 to 9000 and nothing?
Should this not be: 0.0.0.0:8989  --> 127.0.0.1:8989

[wiser]

Once NEM reaches Nxt's distribution curve the price will start rising. You may never see 41 if that point is reached earlier.

I hope to never see 41

[xtester]

A brief clarification and overview

I think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive.

After so much time and energy invested, NEM has finally launched. As you have seen, we have had a fairly smooth launch and our platform seems to be behaving as expected until now. A lot of work has been put into this, and our dev team has done everything to ensure NEM is an innovative and solid platform to build upon. Thus, our launch is a major step forward in proving that NEM is real and that our dev team can really deliver valuable innovation. But while we have launched, NEM is far from complete. In fact, all the work leading to our launch has only been our first major step in taking NEM from concept to reality. We have a great team and a solid technological foundation to build upon, so on the one hand that's everything one can wish for, but on the other, there is still a lot of work to be done. Although we are already ahead of most crypto projects, you must understand that NEM's features, killer apps and ease of use are not here yet, but are expected to be implemented until V1. This is why the price discussion, though seemingly justified now, will probably look at best negligible in the long run. We are planning to hit the masses, but not with the current version.

The real journey has just begun. There will probably be a lot of hurdles and unexpected events along the road, but this will no doubt be one hell of a ride judging by all the great people we have on the team and passionate community members. What I am really saying, is that the real value of NEM lays in the future. Both dev team and marketing team have been and are still working hard because this is not the point when NEM is complete and we can relax, quite the contrary. There's still a long way to go and one year from now, NEM will probably be a lot closer to what we want. Once our we will have those things implemented, then we will be ready to offer real value and utility. That will be the point where we will hype things and everyone will hear about NEM. Right now, well, we're not there and we have work to do, but this goes one step at a time.

Bottom line: The bad news is there is no guarantee in this game, despite best intentions we could fail. The good news is we have a great and passionate team which is still here and even bigger after one year, we have not run away with your money(big plus for this since it's very rare in crypto-land ) and we have delivered a solid, viable, though not yet complete product. This are the valuable things NEM has to offer now and the things with which it sets out on this journey. As it stands, chances are in our favor but there's still a long way to go, so we'd better start working smart and working together. See you later.

This is a personal note and does not necessarily reflect the views of anyone else in the NEM Team.

Cheers,
xtester

[BloodyRookie]

Unfortunately this has not been tested on Unix, or more specific OS X 10.10. The installer for version 0.6.26 did not worked, so I grabbed the TGZ file...

Followed the same steps as mentions for Windows and adapted for *nix - but see the following Java exceptions when starting 'nix.runMon.sh':
- download nis-ncc-0.6.26.tgz
- untar
- open a terminal
  cd ~/Downloads/package
  ./nix.runNcc.sh
- wait a moment and open a new terminal session
  ./nix.runNis.sh
- wait a moment and open a new terminal session
  ./nix.runMon.sh

**** broken ****
. . . .
2015-04-12 19:37:12.333 INFO FrameworkServlet 'Spring MVC Dispatcher Servlet': initialization completed in 1477 ms (org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet initServletBean)
2015-04-12 14:37:12.333:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started o.e.j.s.ServletContextHandler@33617539{/,null,AVAILABLE}
2015-04-12 14:37:12.340:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:main: FAILED ServerConnector@6e46d9f4{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:8989}: java.net.BindException: Address already in use
java.net.BindException: Address already in use
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind0(Native Method)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:437)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.bind(Net.java:429)
   at sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketChannelImpl.bind(ServerSocketChannelImpl.java:223)
. . . .
Caused by: org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLException: Database may be already in use: "Locked by another process". Possible solutions: close all other connection(s); use the server mode [90020-175]
   at org.h2.message.DbException.getJdbcSQLException(DbException.java:332)
   at org.h2.message.DbException.get(DbException.java:172)
. . . .
 (org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter main)
2015-04-12 19:37:15.355 INFO NEM Infrastructure Server 0.6.26-BETA shutdown... (org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter main)


Common guys - please test before releasing it. I did a port scan between port 8000 to 9000 and nothing?
Should this not be: 0.0.0.0:8989  --> 127.0.0.1:8989

Looks like you already got another instance of NIS running or some other program is using the db.

[crimi]

hope this helps provide some additional insight in to nem

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022311.msg11064695#msg11064695

Nice avatar.

Im doing this right?

[Eadeqa]

A brief clarification and overview

I think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive.

Who is responsible for unrealistic expectations?  You guys. Just a week before the launch, makoto1337, the developer, was claiming the marketcap would be 30 million at the launch.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Who is responsible for unrealistic expectations?  You guys. Just a week before the launch, makoto1337, the developer, was claiming the marketcap would be 30 million at the launch.

It's cryptoland. You can't seriously blame him for that.