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3001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: September 08, 2019, 10:47:13 PM
WPP VORAX pricing begins at over 500k USD and up to over $30m. Add-on steam power generation packages for Waste To Energy are an extra cost

Delivery times vary from 3 months and up depending on the particular Vorax model ordered

Whooops ! That is a huge amount of money ...
Can't really imagine how the half of $30m purchase made with wpp tokens .. i'm sure the market will sweep the sell orders up to $1 easily while you blinking.
Impossible at current price and available market/market conditions, but will be possible later once they peg it as planned. There's a reason why it is 'up to 50%'.
At that point .. a new exchange should become a priority isn't it? Digifinex with its low daily volume .... is sucks . How could it handle millions dollar wpp product transactions in the future with such a really low volume below 100k usd even 50k .

However yes we've heard about a potential listing on bithumb or binance dex in the near future ... confirmed by the COO Troy MacDonald which it should bring us more confidence ahead , bring it on!

The project heading to the next level .
3002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy every dip! on: September 08, 2019, 06:38:19 PM
I think it wil take a bit more to actually hit bottom, right now we are not at the bottom if you ask me. It may go up from here I am not arguing against that, we may hit again 13k+ one more time and if you want to buy it than go ahead and do it but that doesn't mean we will definitely just keep going up, it will definitely go down and that is why I honestly think it is not worth buying right now with plans for year long holding.

If you want to do day trading and get a quick profit you can try your hand (no guarantees) but I feel like waiting for an increase and than the next dump where price goes even lower would be a better price to buy. After that I feel like its turn to go up really high, not like 20k but at least 12k which is why I will wait for an increase than decrease to buy next time.
There's nothing to do but keep buying in every occasions to get your dip , as you might will find that rising period longer than the down to dip ... indeed you need to be patient at this stage.

The more dip order executed , the more profit doubled or even quadrupled once it's begin rising... that's the beauty of buying the dips!
3003  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think Institutions secretly HODL Bitcoin? on: September 08, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
We can sure could always impeach NASDAQ , NYSE, DOW JONES and any other what you call as "financial institutions" they are holding bitcoin without want to expose it all .

But still it would always be a baseless opinion without a real data and mean nothing. There's no value in it.

What's the point? Building fundamentals ?
3004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is parlay an effective betting strategy? on: September 08, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Parlays are usually a sure way to lose your money, there are too many things that have to happen to win. I do enjoy doing them though because the odds are good. I’ve won a few really nice one’s in my time but I’ve lost a lot Cheesy
Expecting to win huge amount is the only part that i love about making parlay ... especially when you do nothing to lose which that's what i always do sofar in parlay.

Use only the money that you don't care , i mean a really extra money like when you want to withdraw 1,000 usd but There's 1,023 usd in balance then use the remaining balance of 23 usd after you make a withdrawal.

Sounds fair enough isn't it? You won't care if it lose 100 times but you'll extremely happy if the result is a win !
3005  Economy / Economics / Re: Global economic and trade crisis on: September 07, 2019, 11:36:38 PM
Even the oracle of omaha waren buffet sitting on 122 billion dollar in cash ... what kind strategy is he using now? It's just show us how uncertain the recent financial situation that makes Warren buffet to sell more investments than it bought these days...

Picking gold as a safe haven become the reasonable one but not with me , I prefer half on crypto asset and the other half in cash to buy more crypto on the dip.

I would take my chance in this global economic crisis by fighting against the trends! Let's see what I'll achieve later
3006  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is it safe to exchange big amounts? on: September 07, 2019, 10:55:09 PM
I wouldn't use Shapeshift for larger amounts, even if you've provided KYC.
I personally use Kraken for anything above 1k USD, never had a problem with them and their support is extremely good.
A large transaction must be done in a large exchange with high volume just to make sure you won't get hurt to get low price.

There's a lot of well known exchange such as kraken , binance, coinbase and bitstamp that's what I'd recommend,  shapeshift is indeed prefered for small transactions.

Especially for me personally I've got bad experience using shapeshift last year before the kyc requirement, the support that time seems so slow solving my problem causing me losing some value.
3007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Now the Perfect Time to Buy Bitcoin? on: September 07, 2019, 01:32:38 PM
Here's my short analysis about how bitcoin dominating the crypto market could bring a bad effect to its price

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182204.msg52374222#msg52374222

Also another one that makes people become more confused than ever ...

https://www.coindesk.com/massive-1-billion-bitcoin-whale-transaction-makes-waves

Wtf?

It's always a good time to buy bitcoin if you're a believer,
-believe that in the future once all the 21 million bitcoin are mined ... it would have a crazy price tag like 100,000 usd or even millions dollar! Noone knows as we have experienced before .. from $1 to $20,000! Then why not?

Do invest in bitcoin responsibly,  this is a high volatile market and of course high risk one.

if you want to hold it for very very long time better you do it now , few years later you might can't afford to buy even 0.1 bitcoin!
3008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the difference between binary option and gambling? on: September 07, 2019, 12:23:55 PM
Binary option = Scam service on behalf trading
Trading = buy and sell a real financial instruments

This explain it all. Many newbie traders think that binary option is part of trading and they think they are doing trading while actually they are not. Binary option is more relevant to gambling but most of the binary option sites are made to scam people. So it is better to avoid the binary options.

If you are a trader than do proper trading (No binary option) and if you are a gambler, do proper gambling ( No binary option) .  Smiley

That's true ... an irony for those who uneducated about how the real trading is actually work , they lured to make money easily through an attractive binary advertisement .

Binary option it's like a game of trading ... No I mean it's completely just a game of scam, how the fuck you choose up and down could be called a trading? Where's the effort to analyze the movement? Oh wait you can't do that due the short term movement is the only binary option preference, you got no time to do any proper research and simply choose up or down randomly.

Besides that i really doubt that there's a way to verify this binary option transactions which makes me think so hard that this kind service is just a scam.

Of course i won't even call it as a high risk type of trading.
3009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: September 06, 2019, 11:13:43 PM
The market offering under 6 goals @2.55 , it seems interesting for me  Grin
I'd definitely go for it, but i'm good with my parlay  Cheesy


We won it! Easily 😁😁😁

The market ridiculously offers us a great odds on over/under goals ... I know and believe no matter how bad San Marino is , they can't keep conceding more than what they did in the last 3 euro qualifying rounds .

The risk itself payoff!

Also as expected an intense match between Germany and Netherlands happened! What a game and what an entertainment it was  Shocked
3010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: September 06, 2019, 06:02:13 PM
WPP VORAX pricing begins at over 500k USD and up to over $30m. Add-on steam power generation packages for Waste To Energy are an extra cost

Delivery times vary from 3 months and up depending on the particular Vorax model ordered

Whooops ! That is a huge amount of money ...
Can't really imagine how the half of $30m purchase made with wpp tokens .. i'm sure the market will sweep the sell orders up to $1 easily while you blinking.

The product is here .. we just need to see 1 successful purchase no matter it's 500k USD with half payment is wpp token and see what would happened  Grin .

I actually have a connection to a local government here , i really want to introduce this to them considering our city are working on several renewable energy sources but I think they never mention a hydrogen one , a full-hydrogen source. I have to apprehend about this one first to get some light .
3011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: September 06, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Germany vs Netherland both teams to score is a nice bet today well. The Dutch need a good result and should score, they wont be able to keep a clean sheet though.
I'm sure go for it!
Of course besides my favorite betting option on 2nd half as the highest scoring half ... both has a really good odds to give you a good wine later on the winning  Grin

Slovenia and polandia both on their last matches have a strong start by winning the game since first half with goal galore in it , there might a couple goals scored in the 1st half , the odds pretty good for over 1.5 goals at 1st half , would love to put a couppe bucks there Wink

And for san marino vs belgium , not sure if i can make a serious bet on this one , san marino has too much conceded goals ...

Against russia 0-9
Against cyprus 0-5
Against kazhakstan  0-4

The market offering under 6 goals @2.55 , it seems interesting for me  Grin
3012  Economy / Economics / Re: Advice on how best to protect your capital on: September 06, 2019, 02:19:07 PM
Always become aware that you can never protect your capital a hundred percent because of inflation so you need to do things in order to make it multiply. Investment is all about risks and having guts to do it is the best way of  protecting your resources. Dont let your emotions make your guard down.
Especially an emotion to have an instant result! an instant profit! That's a wrong way to start investing.
Managing your portofolio never been easy ... you need to gain a lot of knowledge also experiences so you might have a higher chance to keep your capital at the safest level.

The common mistakes that people make is to put the money all at one place! These people have no plan B to anticipate the unexpected outcome. They are acting overconfident,  ignore the fact that they are wrong and sure ended up busted!

Just take it easy, play it safe and don't worry to gain a very little profit, it's just the beginning... as time goes by you'll level up your knowledge and mastered everything in investment world.
3013  Economy / Speculation / Re: I bought a bitcoin today for 9K and sold when it hit 10K should I Of left it? on: September 06, 2019, 06:22:35 AM
I would consider the current bitcoin domination in the crypto market as a bearish signal ... the fact that it's over 70% already bitcoin dominating , sooner or later will reach the peak and causing a significant drop.

If i were you , i won't trade the whole balance ... i will save 50% in cash for the worst scenario of bitcoin bearish trend in the near future.

Last time bitcoin dominated the market back in 2017 where the price surge from $1,000 at early 2017 to $20,000  7 months later.
What make it sets apart with the current bitcoin domination? We didn't make it reach ATH this time , we have tried few months ago and i think the next move is just like after a glorious time in 2017 ... a freefall to the dip.

I'm a bit pessimistic right now Sad(
3014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: September 05, 2019, 10:54:14 PM
More Info About WPP VORAX:

https://medium.com/@wppcoin/wpp-vorax-%EF%B8%8F-waste-treatment-reinvented-f590ed2def54

WPP VORAX®️, WASTE TREATMENT REINVENTED!

The product is very stable, but this still can not make investors feel secure because this is just an idea and there is no evidence to say about this. I will wait for a video to introduce the full functionality of this project with all the most detailed information. Now try to continue to improve the product and the value of the WPP coin will definitely be stable again if there is more important news.

Its not an idea, its already working and ready for shipment.

Future token use with Vorax to be announced soon
Just read the article and it seems so legit! Congratulations guys!
However i have contacted the vitaebrasil directly just to remove my doubts  Grin

Anyways Would you share the price range of this wpp vorax product?
Also how long estimation the product delivery since our inquiry?

I just can't wait for the w2h2 home owner solution product to come out ... maybe this is the one that most people around here anticiped to buy as it won't cost millions dollar right?  Grin
3015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Many new traders are playing to lose on: September 05, 2019, 12:28:24 PM
new traders do not have mature knowledge and they think trading will benefit quickly, even though it's not as easy as they think. in my opinion trading requires mature knowledge and patience in observing price charts. although it is very risky but also profitable if you win in trading.
New traders are hasty to earn money before get knowledge and experience from old traders. The result is blatantly obvious, they are playing to lose, nevertheless, new traders are new traders, it is simple. It is not easy than expected. Step by step you will learn without knowledge it is so risky to trade. No pain no gain. If you decide the learning to trade, you must be patient.
You beat me to it , the journey to become a successful trader won't happened overnight.. continue learning day by day , make a plan and making progress out of it.

Too much uneducated newcomers rushed to gain profit with zero effort , no wonder they are ended up losing the whole balance ... they deserved it all with their loser /gambler mentality.

3016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: September 05, 2019, 03:58:43 AM
We can see people celebrate their winning with their friends, so they have a memory about winning. I agree with you that saying to restart the winning mentality because if the winning mentality becomes bigger, it could attract the other emotion and that will be too dangerous to us. The other emotion will be greed, always want to win, which is very difficult, become superior to the other gamblers. That is what we need to prevent because that will be a boomerang to us if we forget it.
Yeah that's the key to get you in a profit line .
Don't follow your emotion to stay in the casino longer ... get out of there immediately whenever you hit a big winning.

Refreshing your brain help you a lot psychologically rather than force yourself to play under a high pressure to win more which it's unlikely happened due you are against the giant house.

Believe me or not , to cash the money out everytime you win and to come back later when you feel things started from 0 again ... help you out to stay getting a steady profit especially in sports betting.
3017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Overall winning - Dice on: September 05, 2019, 12:01:58 AM
I'm pretty sure a game like dice is all about luck and you should never play it continuously which I think that's what make dice challenging,  I mean can you play it for once like make a one time huge bet and then walk away ... no matter what's the result is.

No? I believe everyone would always tend to play continuously due how quick the outcome makes you think that's too easy , you might give it another try and so on ...

The never ending story in dice , a short winning feeling and an eternal disappointment.
3018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: September 04, 2019, 07:51:34 PM
Vorax is a revolutionary waste processing technology that treats nearly all types of waste including MSW/Urban, Industrial, Medical, Hazardous, Sludge/Pasty Waste.
I watched the video on Youtube. It was very short without details about the product. Only 50 seconds.
Aren't you going to release another video or an article describing the function of this product with some details?
If you dig deeper you'll find that this vorax product has been launched before ...
By a company named vitaebrasil 5 years ago exactly at 25th November 2013 .... here's the link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PW-iNABiVD8

I think they explain everything there about this vorax product.

And here's the video with English subtitle uploaded by vitaebrasil

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uRHPTXgG_CA

I'm not sure if WPP buying this product patents or simply they are in cooperation by now or maybe just a vendor?
Kindly if someone explain a bit about this? Would be much appreciated.
3019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the difference between binary option and gambling? on: September 04, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
Well, everyone had their own insights towards Binary options trading yet even on your part its a scam but there are still people who do engage to this binary thing.
Yes, you can eventually felt it when theres manipulation or everything sounds doesnt right while your are trading with it.I cant deny that high chances of manipulative ticks which will result to loss.This is one of the reason why i left BO.
Apologize for my extreme comment by the way Cheesy

If you look at the binary option companies advertising style ... most of them are trying so hard convincing people through an exaggerated narration that for me personally tend to "clearly want to scam everyone"

They shows expensive sports car in the ad, showing how they could travel around the world easily and any other luxuries stuff just to make people lured to play there.

Come on .... making money is not that easy , a lot of my colleagues fall to this awful ad , they think it's just like trading whilst it's worse than gambling in other words you are giving away your money once you get in the BO site. Stay away the different pretty obvious  that :

Binary option = Scam service on behalf trading
Trading = buy and sell a real financial instruments
3020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Huge drop happening within 48 hours! (Update: BTC Price on Sept 5th) on: September 04, 2019, 05:02:58 AM
48 hours have passed and we didnt had a "huge drop". Instead the price just touched the four digits area, providingr a new buying opportunity.

Give it some time. 48 hours was unrealistic to begin with. But the general idea ($8K range) is still possible, even likely. Higher time frames are clearly in a downtrend and we're only hovering a few hundred dollars above the July bottom. A general rule in trading is that if the market keeps hammering the same support (in this case the low $9,000s) over and over, it's likely to break.

This was a nice speculation and had he got this one right then, we would have made decisions based on his analysis as and when he would have provided them. It’s fair to say that the op is a bear trader who’s trying hard to convince us that $8k is coming, first it was 48 hours and now date has changed and it’ll continue to change. This post only proves one thing that no one can predict bitcoin prices, and one should always do their own research before buying or selling.
First of all yess thanks to op for sharing ...
Of course everyone shouldn't follow this kind prediction blindly not even from a well known analyst , but at least everyone can take some informations that you think it's matching with your data.

My personal opinion about the current market swing ... we are still in bearish and could possibly dropped to below $9,000 anytime soon before the end of this year.

The MA200 says it's at around $7,000 , i don't want this to be happened of course, everyone wanted a steady growth every years every months , but i don't want to be greedy either you can always just sit down and simply hold forevaaaa to avoid this complex market movement.
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