Im very verbose; to a fault.
 
since we have exchanged posts:
you have accused me of being poor
you have accused me of being ignorant of my profession
you have accused me of being gullible.

i have attacked your ideas but i have never attacked you this entire time. this is intentional. i refuse to provide narcissistic supply to anyone.

did you seriously just lecture me on manners my man?

 


Let me stop.

 This isn't very Christian of me. I've been a bit of an ass.

Im sorry if I hurt your feelings; i sometimes forget there are people behind the personas (im being dead ass serious). I guess I get a little overzealous in messing with people I perceive as trolls. I'll be honest with you, I do think you are a shill, but Im really not trying to mess your night up or belittle you. It just really irks me when you guys start up sometimes. It has been my personal experience that most aggressive personas retreat when you publically ask them to reveal their motivations (if they dont deny it; the subsequent dance around the issue exposes the motivations anyway)

you utilize a lot of the disinformation tactics ive come to expect when dealing with shills. concern for minutiae that derails/slows the pace of the conversation.  the use of fallacious logic (particularly ad hominem arguments, false attribution and equivocation) to drive home points that arent even relevant to the topic of conversation. if you are a legitimate forum user in there, again, my bad. but I will plainly say that I believe you are one of many personas being controlled by maybe 3 to 4 users on this board (and many others) that is part of a concerted disinformation campaign intended to damage bitcoin and related infrastructure.

if you are indeed this, I understand its just a job (we all suffer them) and you have to get paid to feed your family like everyone else. i just dont agree with you morally; you could have used your Masters in psych for much more constructive purposes than this. you will also be judged by your maker at the end of you. he will frown on the disservice you have provided your brother.


I just feel attacked when presented with deception.  

I would like to extend an olive branch. I ll leave you alone. Just go easy on the threads i frequent... i actually do use them as a resource for investment information (such resources are scant when dealing with btc denominated securities)

~Green

your absolutely right, im a poor idiot shitbag.

 


atm is still a kiosk, though. a kiosk that makes ach transactions. not all kiosks are atms, but pretty much all atms can be defined as a kiosk.

come on, d00d, duh.

kinda like a troll is a person that makes asinine comments anonymously for personal ego edification (see what i did there?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiosk#Interactive_kiosks

An electronic kiosk (or computer kiosk or interactive kiosk) houses a computer terminal that often employs custom kiosk software designed to function while preventing users from accessing system functions.


is this the limited user interaction you meant? i hope so.. i dont want anyone inside my Wells Fargo atm. Well Fargo is fucking me hard enough. you honestly cant have that poor of a grasp of English; your posting history belies this. You are actually quite clever (the NEOBEE pst with the cat made me laugh)

oh, you typically invest when you enter a position in a security. im using this definition of investment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment


which definition are you using?


also, when people enter positions, eventually they do intend to close them. hard to pay bills with shares. but meh, still the aforementioned idiot. i should send you my funds for safekeeping.

send me a wallet address. and take my money!

~Green

Did you invest in Activeminer? I was reading your post history (a long, illustrious one at that) and I noticed you tend to speak negatively of all securities despite the fact you seemingly havent invested in any of them. What is your motivation for participating in those threads? People obviously aren't heeding your message (probably because your motives are transparent).

This has been fun and all, but this is kinda getting old; no one has really said anything that advances the conversation, and I feel I have been arguing with the same person across three different accounts. send over a fresh sock, or a more senior troll with more skin in the game (mainline was a worthy opponent). Either respond with some thing really hurtful (and interesting) or talk about the issue at hand. dont give me poorly researched google data and argue semantics (like an atm not being a kiosk. come one man, you have better shit than that.)

also, i would like to purchase the persona management software you are using for the forum. this is a serious solicitation.

EDIT: some of you guys may not know about PMS systems, really interesting shit:
http://www.stuffyoushouldknow.com/blog/persona-management-software-a-little-birdie-created-your-opinion/

give me info i can synthesize with

and enjoy your dinner if you live in the continental US, its about that time. we are having pasta tonight I think.

lol, are you a sock Fawn?

I think ive upset the trolls, this is fun! i might have to branch out to other threads..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad#Dark_tetrad
How do you score?


so like... what do you think an atm is called, generally? like, what can we define it as?

a kiosk maybe?

http://www.atmexperts.com/atm-cabinets-enclosures.html
not so good with the google these days...i try though

I don't get why the trolls are coming out for this particular security. I guess its easier to attack here than getting their ass handed to them in a more popular securities thread.


Actually I believe NEOBEE is an investment. At least, me and 439.2 btc worth of market participation. I could be wrong

oh btw mainline/ed/fawn(pulled out the fresh sock!), the personal attacks won't work. even if you did offend me, I would provide you with a tempered response. 10+ years customer service You could call me a nigger to my face (im black) and I'd shake your hand good sir Its happened a great many times before.

or ma'am.
now come on, amp this shit up and get under my skin! your attacks are becoming less and less effectual.

ooooor lets talk about the goddamned issue. sans the fud.

~Green

the trolls are getting lazier. i think its working.
like, if no one pays you guys to troll, how in the fuck do you have enough time to post here like this? i want to write a book about you guys.. you are the most interesting examples of non productive psychopathic behavior I have seen

http://www.touchmate.com.au/

They actually seem very legit. If this site is authentic (I have no reason to believe it isn't), they have worked for some pretty major corps (Shell, Toyota, the US Army, Coca-Cola and BP to name a few)

Actually Established.
Very Legit.
Much Business.

~Green

I might actually invest in this a little now when I exit my NEOBEE and PETA positions. This made me feel a little better about this. Will continue to perform diligence.

EDIT: I think these are the guys responsible for the little Kinko kiosks you can feed money into to load your card balance. If this is the case, they make a decent product as well.

same. it will take some time, but I feel as though we may have an asicminer on our hands. thats not based off of any metrics (take me with a grain of salt); just a prediction of group psychology based off of empirical evidence.

we will see 

this goes without saying. this is theft clear and outright, and a breach of contract. if this is how the free market works, intellectual property is worthless.

Jealous!

yeah, the estimated valuations in the last image are interesting; I would like to see the presentation documents that were present at that meeting. i believe they are legit, id just love to see the math for my own speculative purposes.

Anyway, NEOBEE IS .0039. And rising.
 

Thank you again, Danny. My hat is off to you.

Now, in the next few weeks, after the hubbub dies down, me and the community are gonna  need you to take a much needed rest. you've been in overdrive since last year with this project; we can't have you burning out on us just yet

~Green

 I see pedrog linked to the figures before I submitted this post, thx man

so what are you doing to prevent this? just not wanting it? i dont think this will be effective; it hasnt worked for me in the past.
i dont think what i perceive to be your current strategy (contributing opinions that have little to do with the topic of discussion in order to generate confusion/dissent) is effective either.

You cannot exist with bitcoin in a vacuum. it needs people to grow and proliferate. so we either need to educate these "suckers" or what we both can agree on (btc) will be lost to us. we can stop these scammers together, man. thats what these threads are for. but only through rational discourse and synthetic thought.

please help me save bitcoin. even if you do have selfish motivations; our wills can align. i cant do this alone, i need all the help i can get.

~Green

I am far from innocent, sir.  but i try to mend the things in the past i have broken

Im sorry if my ramblings seemed weird; thanks for the clarification. I will use this in the future to make my points more cogent.

here is my portfolio on havelock:

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/publicportfolio/qhGUCPuGc82vGMD32AgUL6hNjPSUxJrdtyyvDj3ghtTq7WhyWGKhCtwm9E7xPpS8

Do you have any good advice about any of these securities? i would love to hear your opinions about some of these securities.

Outside of my portfolio, what other assets do you think are a good buy at the moment?

And Im sorry for prying into your personal life; you just seem so angry every time you post I thought i could help you in some way maybe. my offer still stands man; i honestly think you may have more stress on your plate than you might can see, given your tone and attitude as expressed by your communications.

Feed the trolls because they must eat; but serve them bitter fruit.

~Green

since you think this security is a bad buy, and are trying to protect people from it (i applaud your efforts sir); what other measures have you taken to vet this company? if you have some research you can share with us (esp negative research), please share with us so no one will make the mistakes you wish to save us from. if it is useful information, I will compensate you for it, not a whole lot because i am not a man of means at the moment (i recently got hacked). but i promise i will make it worth your time and effort.

Id be willing to leave 3% of the bond as a fee for stewardship. this may be negotiable with a valid argument

then why are you in this thread if you have no interest in this product or security?

im actually interested in this. perhaps that makes me a fool. it is of little consequence to you, right?

are you being paid by an agency or organization for your contributions to this forum? i am genuinely curious, please respond.

and, is it unusual to use photoshop renders for new products that haven't been developed yet (but have been designed?) i saw that NEOBEE used photoshop in the beginning (to illustrate the building design), but as soon as it was built we had wonderful, high resolution photographs to replace them! ive never rolled out a multimillion dollar company; if you have some personal experience or constructive input  you can share to clarify we'd appreciate it.

Reviewing your post history, you seem to contribute mostly negative opinions in venues where the general mood is the opposite. are you experiencing personal problems in your life that bring you distress? i have been there before man, and if you need someone to talk to, I will honest to god give you my phone number so we can talk about it. I hate to see any of my fellows suffer needlessly; i can only hope that the Lord will bless me for this particular view of life (it has led to being taking advantage of before). If you aren't comfortable with me or the whole religion thing, I have a number of people from different walks of life that would be happy to assist you with any type of personal obstacle that may seem to big to get by. just let me know via pm, you dont have to put your business out in the open.

Hope to hear from you soon brother,
~Green

EDIT: I thought of something funny that i had to share with you, Ed. I hope this brightens your day a little


I think we could use your skills in the various Mt Gox threads of late!!  

hey eduardo! how are you doing today? i hope this Sunday finds you well and with your family 

i really like reading you posts, your criticisms always make me examine the other side of things for a moment. usually a very brief moment. as i have said before, you guys simply intrigue me! id love to chat with you via pm as well, or skype, pm me for my handle!

excellent! i can agree and disagree with this comment. i dont think you truly understand how I think, honestly, but I could be wrong; it is of little consequence. but im sure that, since like me you are a seeker of edification, we can both agree that rational, constructive and on-topic discussion will assist everyone in making the most informed choices when investing in these securities.

So lets talk about the topic at hand since you took the time to post here ( we appreciate it!)

Do you think that merchants will be interested in adopting the bitcoin mobile reader (http://diamondcircle.net/collections/business/products/mobile-reader-writer) rather than preexisting but similar payment systems (like Paypal/Square) that are tied to the traditional ACH system? One of the chief complaints of merchants using the ACH integrated systems is the possibility of chargeback, which isnt possible with btc. What are your thoughts?

And when you answer me, can you provide a clear statement of your motivation for your comments towards me, and your participation in this thread? I would greatly appreciate it

Eagerly awaiting your response,
~Green

you guys make me smile

people were paying .0225 per ghs at .065. we can agree on this because it is fact. and this price was achieved before any dividends have been disbursed.

why wouldnt they pay that now (per ghs) that peta is actually hashing?

what other metrics could possibly be used to evaluate this price of this asset? besides the current price per ghs (commodified, because this asset is way more liquidable than hardware?)

i stand by my valuation since you have not refuted it with evidence to me.


which begs the question..

why does the price increase concern you so much? are you not properly purchased into your position? you are incredulous at an increase in price, on good news. this is how markets work. on what might possibly be the best news here since this thread started.

can you please explain your motivations for your current argument?

~Green

lol, no different than a bank speculating with my holdings.

i expect my judgement in choosing a bondholder, and the level of trust that they have, to be my "FDIC guarantee"

But seriously, I doubt an escrow issuer that wishes to maintain his community standing would accept enough speculative risk to possibly lose my funds. I dont really care. I just want my money back when i ask for it, in a reasonable timeframe. They can pay it back out of pocket. Its of little consequence.

~Green

what is there to discuss? a share was trading for .065 btc for 2.88 ghs. this instantly became 8.68.


price per ghs @ .065 (2.88 ghs per share) = 0.02256 btc/ghs, which is on par with available cloud mining offerings (this offering is essentially commodified ghs)


price per ghs @ .065 (8.68 per share) = 0.00748 btc/ghs, which is pre order prices for physical hardware, and un-fucking heard of for commodified hashing

so why wouldnt the share price adjust to the same ratio?

8.68 x .02256 = .1958 btc per share

this is what people were paying before.

lets use another metric... lowest cloud mined ghs price = .018 at bit-mining.co

that would make the hashing capacity represented by a share of PETA = .1562 btc per share (market price x capacity)

so .1562 or .1958

this asset is currently undervalued

am i making a fundamental error or failing to see something that is obvious? im dead serious.

~Green

please guys, if im not understanding this (this is what i am basing my max buy price/exit price on) provide clarification.

i almost messed that up bad. thx guys.

Im looking for a trusted escrow provider that I can post a bond with in order to assure escrow for the users of my new service. I contacted TomatoCage about this, but he never responded.

What I am saying is, I want to give you (the trusted) my btc in order to have readily available escrow  to back the sales i intend to garner. I'm not even asking for a rate of return (as is common in traditional bond scenarios).. i just want people to trust me and my service, and know if something is wrong that their equity is being held safely by a third party. I am not fucking playing; please don't come on this thread with that bullshit. I take my business offering very seriously; and I do not wish to divulge details about it at the time (LEST I GET BEAT TO MARKET). I'm actually quite confused why Tomato never responded to me (i initially wanted him to provide bond because of his prolific forum history + trust; either he is busy or this must seem like a scam to him) mayhap he didnt understand i'm offering him money to hold? that seems profitable and risk free. if I did not make my communication clear, my apologies.

To review:
1: I send you money
2: you hold it
3: i offer a service that involves money and accept money from users for service
4: if i fuck up (fail to provide service), you give the money to the customers to make them whole
5: if i dont fuck up, i get my goddamned money back
6:if you are smart, you will attempt to use my money to generate additional money. i could give a blue fuck; just have my money when i ask for it and there are no open customer issues
7: after ppl see that im here to make money for the long run ( that im not on that scam shit and i legitimately intend to get rich off my service offering, i will liquidate my bond from you, and i will pay you a small premium for your service (you had my money this whole time; i hope you were smart enough to increase it somehow)

this doesnt seem that hard to do. so i expect serious responses from interested parties.
if you dont basically live on this forum, or have extreme community trust, you need not apply.

Again I reach out to you Tomato, i honestly would prefer for you to do this

Anyway, now the offer is open to the rest of the trusteds



~Green

i think its the 28th