What is your breakeven period to recover your capital investment? In Canada it would be about 20 years, without government subsidies. We had a program where government paid 80 cents/kwh, and the return on those subsidized solar projects was 7-8 years. It is "nice to have" but probably not a good idea if you are trying to reduce mining costs.
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Why do you think this is killing, please explain
They have no competition and sell their h/w with 8+ mths payback time. Their competitors cannot ship in quantity to compete. If they did, the prices of ASICMiner products would have to come down to 1-3 month range. Right now they are the only game in town, so they make huge profit selling those blades/sticks. Do you think people will stop buying their next blade? It will sell like there is no tomorrow. Unless BFL starts shipping minirigs in quantity, or avalon ships their batch #2/#3, chips and announce a 2nd gen chip. |
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Join my group.
7 sticks to your location will be BTC15.22, or BTC2.17
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Just posting a teaser for now. This is a functioning Avalon clone populated with a single hash unit with a single ASIC, mining for 6+ hours (note the 1388 accepted diff-1 shares). A public announcement, with many more details about who we are and what we make, will be made soon. I think the Bitcoin community will be quite pleased  Is that hacked up cgminer running or you wrote your own thing? How did you get that chip soldered to the board? Congrats. |
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I have a vaio laptop that shipped with a docking station which really isn't a docking station. It connects power into the USb and power plug on the laptop. According to sony this little upright slim device houses the more expensive video card. As well as my CD drive. And a bunch more ports for various things.
So when the docking station is connected, you get to take advantage of the GPU.
So I load CGminer with the docking station connected. It starts going ... up to 80 Mh/s ... then kicks up a notch (the fan at least) .... then another notch.... then it does this for about 5 minutes ... the numbers don't change - still at 80Mh/s ... but the fan is incrementally getting louder and louder.... then Boom. The docking station power goes dead. It restarts on its own ... and my laptop is frozen.
This is a brand new fresh install so its not software related. CGMiner is doing something that is clearly burning out the GPU.
Is there some way for me to tell CGMiner to stop at some stage and let the thing just do what its doing?
I know nothing about programming or code or DOS or any of that stuff....
Thanks
Lower the clocks and intensity. Your docking station fails to provide enough power. |
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Is CGWatcher 32b only? I can't save any configuration profile with 64b version of BFG, but it works with 32b CGMiner. Always get Net Framework "alarms" that 32b process can't write 64b one. Tested on various machines with totally different setups but same Win7 64b OS.  Maybe you need cgwatchercgwatcher to watch the cgwatcher LOL |
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It's a great deal for the seller. Sell 5MGHs Jally for 50BTC, and buy a 10GHs Blade or If your are one of the faithful preorder a KNC Saturn and get back some change.
He is not going to sell it for more than 18-23. I'd be very surprised if anyone pays more. |
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Ah, sorry - correction: "anyone looking for these shipped today" How does 2-3 days sound? PM me if you are interested. |
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After about 1000 accepts, 3.1.0 shows about the same HW error count as 3.0.2. (Running Erupters on Win 7x64)
Initially, it was higher, it settled down after a while.
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Running 3.1.0 with a bunch of Erupters.
The good news is that the switch from 3.0.2 to 3.1.0 was painless.
The bad news is 3.1.0 reports more hardware errors in MY setup than 3.0.2 (Win 7, x64).
Still few percentage lower than cgmienr 3.1.1 but higher than bfgminer 3.0.2.
I'll monitor it a bit longer to see if it settles down...
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the reality is Batch #3 owners are not to expect their units soon. End of June would be even optimistic...
+1 Batch #2 has not been shipped yet. Only few units were shipped to test the new delivery channels. Then you have trade-ins....(that supposed to ship before a full batch #2 roll out) So, I say expect batch #3 sometime in August/September...with difficulty around 150M |
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ASICminer is not just mining, they are selling asics to decentralise mining too !
 You are joking, right? They are making a killing selling blades and erupters. They are NOT doing it to decentralize anything. |
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We have had technical and personal setbacks, Due to the pressure mounting on our backs from work, lives, and trying to make a better miner, its just gotten to much, to many people wanting to know every little detail every step of the way. We will be continuing to work on this but have pretty much decided to go back to making better fpga miners. All those who donated to this cause please email me with the btc adress you send from , and we will try and get you your bitcoins back in a timely manner. Since we didnt reach the goal of 100 coins we were not able to take into account for a huge mess up. So Like i said mail the btc address you sent btc from and we will try and get it back to you in a timely manner. Like i said we will still be working on making miners but on our time line and our terms.
i thought i would just let those who donated to the cause we will try and pay back quickly..
LoL You have a list of transactions - just return them to original address. That being said. Fail Scam only fails completely if fail scammer gives refunds  Just let him exit gracefully. No need to rub it in. |
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No need to run a bitcoin client in order to mining.
Plug the Eruptor USB, install driver(if Windows), configure and run cgminer with a pool.
You forgot to tell him to call his company network administrator and ask him to look the other way when cgminer traffic goes through the HTTP proxy. Mining pool hosts in the proxy reports will raise big red flags. |
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cannot wait the 12 months to do the job properly, hence "no prototype, no revision, bam, production". Yes it is stupid, but...
They will use YOUR money to try this out (if they'll even bother with it) Things would be different if they had to put up their hard earned BTCs on the line. So don't fret, if something does not work, they will announce another, more powerful model, let say 100TH/s @ 15K each. Rinse, flush and repeat. |
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Apparently the chips are in production right now. We know the design has been finalized. They then ship the chips to their PCB assembler and ...
Go back and do it again? Ask BFL how easy it is to go from FPGA to 65nm, so forget 28nm from KNC. |
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nice idea.more details are welcome more suggestions also...  I fully believe that free markets are the long term best way to handle just about everything. I think the most pressing requirement in the bitcoin world is an Underwriter's Laboratory for bitcoin mining hardware. Some kind of stamp that gives you an idea of the hardware's capability and a separate stamp for the manufacturer. For instance, the Butterfly Labs Jalepeno might get a A- in hashing power to electricity ratio, but the company would get a D- for poor customer service, extended delays and lack of transparency. Avalon's rigs would get an A+ in hashing power to electricity ratio, but a C+ for missing deadlines and poor customer communication. When consumers can review an investment and have a reputable source giving the investment a rating, it really adds valuable information to the consumer's choice. And if these stamps really gain trust in the community, hardware companies would line up to get stamped. I'm not exactly sure whether this falls into a "buyer's consortium", but I think there is a real need for a company whose profits stem from protecting miners' interests and keeping hardware manufacturers honest. Right now the big money is in making the hardware. As this leg of the bitcoin economy matures, a watchdog company becomes more and more necessary. Sound good.  And that is how "Bitcoin Consumer Reports" has been born... |
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Re: Can KNCMiner really deliver 28 nanometers? Sure They can even go pure-play while at it. It is like learning computer programming for the first time; in binary Remember, first you have to walk before you run. |
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Most corporate firewalls allow TCP outbound, and port 80 mining is indistinguishable from web/http traffic. Your company can still block bitcoin pools via dns/ip. But it's highly unlikely. You can always test by running cgminer (CPU mine mode) on your workstation.
If his co has half decent security dept., they will call him the moment he starts his miner. Very few miners set Firefox/IE user agent strings. "cgminer" or "bitminter" in web proxy reports will raise red flags. |
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Why the F hasn't this thread been moved to the for sale forum?
In comparison, I'm a direct reseller for ASICMiner (perhaps the only one in the US) and deal in the hundreds. Neither you nor I are the only re-sellers in US. I can assure you that there are others who have sold more than you and I combined. +1 Not sure why but this "Custom Hardware" subforum has become "Custom Hardware - Buy/Sell, preorders, group buys, preorders of shares on preordered products that might or might not be ever produced". Now it is a junk subforum, KNC pre-orders, shares on pre-orders, 1.9TH PCI cards, Nigerian/Indian asics etc, hard to find any technical info on the actual products. All is missing is options on future forward contracts on Avalon/BFL dates or any other events related or unrelated to bitcoin. Pre-order "hash rate swaps" anyone? Total madness. PS. I have contributed to this with my small group buy thread. |
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