JimmyJazz, good ideas. +1
But if this really is a 1718% markup business ($1.50 per Gh), this party can not last for long.
How soon can we expect cheap chinese copies (stolen designs) to hit the market?
Next 6 month's are going to be interesting.
The next 6 months in Bitcoin, the companies, the btc price itself, its all going to be insane. I can feel it. |
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What type of rally on the news? 0.003999?
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Someone trying to push the price low? Damn Labcoin is going to post some news soon!
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as mining will still be underway until 21 million BTC are created.
Even though it doesn't matter at all right now or for the next 10 years. The idea is that the transaction fees will eventually be large enough that its still profitable to mine after no more new Bitcoins are being generated. If the transaction fees are not enough by that time then Bitcoin will be attacked and destroyed. So it is possible that companies like ActiveMining could essentially exist forever paying out dividends, only if they always stayed ahead with the most efficient mining chips. (Like I said, if its not profitable for any company to exist mining bitcoins in 100 years because the transaction fee model does not work, bitcoin will be eliminated) (Of course none of this matters at all for a long time) On the mining side of this question, what percentage of the mining hashrate are ActM looking to hold in the future? Will they try to be ethical and stick to a certian rate or push to be the most dominant?
At this point you cannot be ethical, too many competitors are out to destroy us so ActiveMining must attempt for the greatest hashrate possible whilst also developing new chips. |
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It's the start of the wave.. Wait till we hit 0.014 on Tuesday
Can you provide some evidence or calculations or reason as to this possibility? Thats 4x current valuation and 14x IPO. |
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Is this stock still a good buy? I am kinda scared at the constant sell offs, I put alot into this.
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Ponzi would be proud about this. Over 6k BTC is quite the scam.
Around 4,000 to 5,000 of those coins belong to towtoad/nakowa/celeste/cici. However it looks like he raised over 1,000 bitcoin from investors (unless he was making that up, and just a few people actually invested and he sent himself money) EDIT: It's also somewhat likely the OP is in fact towtoad too. The OP is a business guy outsourcing the development, and towtoad is also a business/investor guy. But I am not certain that the two people are the same. (If so its a very elaborate IPO where towtoad is providing 95% of the money anyway. Why bother with this thread? Unless towtoad is not the OP) But yeah I am not sure. |
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Allow inter-exchange share transfers -> BTCT and BF. What argument is there against this?
Will this ever be possible?? Im arbing all my shares and picking up a few extra thousand for free How? |
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I just don't see the point of moving shares unless it happens instantaneously. One can always sell shares on btct, transfer the bitcoins to bitfunder and pick up some cheap shares. And I actually do not understand why this is not happening. For long-term investors this seems to be a good strategy.
Why sell out on a market that has more chance of allowing you to fill your large orders quickly? Think about it, the higher price is there for a reason. Liquidity is one of the most important and overlooked things here. Some of us hold much more than 10 bitcoins worth of shares. I had stock in another company on Bitfunder and lost so much money because there is no liquidity. (This company is often higher ranked on bitfunder for transaction volume that active mining on bitfunder too) My conclusion is if you have a large amount of shares and you want to be able to flip them on news or whatever, BTCT is the way to go for now. So the lower price on bitfunder is only a plus if you can one day transfer them. For now the price reflects the situation. That being on bitfunder is a negative for trading your shares. |
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Wouldn't arbitrage in the long run bring the prices to an equilibrium anyways? (Provided the ease of movement is the same with both securities.)
If it was possible to easily move shares from one exchange to another, then the equilibrium would be reached very quickly. It really depends on ease of movement, a quick instant transfer would match both prices exactly. A slower movement like having to wait 6 hours would mean the prices would still fluctuate a little. |
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TSMC would be far better Why? Well apparently TSMC wouldn't be better because the asic design is easier (see post above) I don't quite understand the difference but it sounds like you don't need a full blown foundry. |
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Nope, they are a fabless company. Fabless means they are outsourcing the fabrication. Due to the nature of eASIC producing structured ASICs I'm convinced they are partnered with a semiconductor foundry and this is already covered. Structured ASIC is an intermediate technology between ASIC and FPGA, offering high performance, a characteristic of ASIC, and low NRE cost, a characteristic of FPGA. Using Structured ASIC allows products to be introduced quickly to market, to have lower cost and to be designed with ease.
In a FPGA, interconnects and logic blocks are programmable after fabrication, offering high flexibility of design and ease of debugging in prototyping. (...) Every different design [with custom ASICs] needs a complete different set of masks. The Structured ASIC is a solution between these two. It has basically the same structure as a FPGA, but being mask-programmable instead of field-programmable, by configuring one or several via layers between metal layers. Every SRAM configuration bit can be replaced by a choice of putting a via or not between metal contacts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structured_ASIC_platformAnd also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg3091216#msg3091216Thanks for this, so its not as hard to produce an active mining asic compared to asicminer and labcoin? Is it as good? And if so why don't the other companies do this? |
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But dex, think of the FUD opportunities!
I will be honest, I have lost over $3000 on this stock so far, I can't even sell to recoup any losses and my only chance to get back is if this company works out. I just don't understand the no information thing. Why are all of you ok with not knowing the foundry? Every other company discloses the foundry they use publicly. |
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Nope, they are a fabless company. Fabless means they are outsourcing the fabrication. Due to the nature of eASIC producing structured ASICs I'm convinced they are partnered with a semiconductor foundry and this is already covered. I am getting the feeling that the nameless semiconductor foundry is remaining nameless for a reason, because TSMC would be far better and the share price would fall even lower if we found out. I don't understand why the secrecy around a darn semiconductor company, we know that hashfast, avalon, labcoin all use TSMC. |
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The chips will be made where eAsic made them. Trying to convince people only TSMC can do good silicon is plain stupid. Probably a lot of people here are using PCs with their Intel chips made in irish factories, for example.
Yeah but where is that? eAsic are fabless, they have never ever fabricated an asic chip, only design. Can someone please tell me where the hell the asics are being fabricated? Why is this so hard? Fabrication is difficult and very very expensive, the several hundred million dollar valuation of eAsic is peanuts compared to building ONE fab. |
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Nope, they are a fabless company.
Interesting. Any ideas where they've been fabricating ASICs in the past? No idea, I am just a little perplexed that we have no physical chips. Everyone is using TSMC and we are still creating designs on computers. No wonder Ken is not around anymore. I feel like I have made a huge mistake. |
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eASIC is a fabless semiconductor company offering NEW ASIC devices used in the production of customized silicon devices.
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Wait, am I completely daft or is eASIC not the fab? Nope, they are a fabless company. |
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So ActiveMining has no fab yet?
Please please tell me this is not true.
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