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3021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2014, 05:14:33 PM
Volume is incredibly low.  

I just encountered BlackCoin and I think it's a very interesting pump concept.  The coin switched from PoW to PoS.  Now the only way to mine it is indirectly, and to facilitate that, there is a multipool, bcmultipool.com, which mines scrypt alts, dumps for BTC, and buys BC with BTC.  It then pays out in BC.

The effect is that every 20-60 minutes there is a market order for BC.  The BC bid keeps going up.  Also, whatever scrypt is leading the return on difficulty gets dumped.   If enough miners decide to take payouts in BC in this way, BC would then drain the marketcap of all the scrypt coins.

I like this idea, because I think its good for BTC.  It's a layered market, and it reduces the fog of uncertainty regarding competitors by dumping and crushing the value of a large number of trash coins.  Not sure if it is actually an improvement over just switch-mining with BTC payout, though.  I might be.


But surely the fact that the last stage of Blackcoin mining is dumping the BTC, makes it not good for BTC? You get a big BTC dump whenever the blackcoin pools pay out. The more popular blackcoin gets, the bigger the hash, the more alt > btc mined, the bigger the BTC dumps. The value of blackcoin keeps rising, so few are buying straight back in to btc when they get paid. So the net result is more bitcoin getting dumped at current buy order.

I'm mining on blackcoinpool.com with 4.2MH and getting about 0.0034 btc worth or blackcoin a day, which is twice what I've been getting of pure btc on multipools. I also bought 10,000 blackcoin at 9000 satoshi, it's now at 30,000+ :/ I'm very wary of altcoins, but this has been incredible so far.

Oh I am sure that black will add some vol in the short run but srriously do you think anyone will hold the bulk of their wealth in blackcoin, which is completely unusable currency?  90% off black gets turned to btc.  The rest, the dumb money, is turned to fiat via btc.  (Numbers out of a hat.)  In the long run it adds holders, and it weakens all the scamcoins.

Blackcoin will have its use/purpose later.  The addition of coinkite will help.  

I've been a large holder even at its lows and I am blown away by the returns I have

I would also encourage you to buy more, but if your mining on the pool thats good enough
3022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Survey time! Was 340 the final bottom? on: April 13, 2014, 04:11:50 PM
We will be below 400 soon I think

here we go Wink knocking at 400
3023  Economy / Speculation / Re: Survey time! Was 340 the final bottom? on: April 13, 2014, 02:26:10 PM
We will be below 400 soon I think
3024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 13, 2014, 02:16:24 PM
I just woke up almost shit my pants after looking at the price
3025  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: S. California Data Centers on: April 12, 2014, 07:32:54 PM
I had to look on the map to where romoland was lol

shit is faaar

anyways this guy has a datacenter in irvine http://www.contractmine.com/
3026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 05:09:18 PM
pool hashrate is gettimg up there
3027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 04:49:12 PM


Now people will wonder where it came from. We came out of the blackhole. Faster than the speed of light.

I like this quote
3028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 04:24:41 AM
Dude needs to put his wall back up lol.

Also, whoever runs this forum needs to decrease the time between posts. 360 seconds is way too long.


New accounts have a limit on posting. 
3029  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 12, 2014, 04:17:17 AM
Woohoo!

Keep the Terrahashes rolling
3030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Scam Coin - New AdamSmith algorithm bridging the gap between GPU and ASICs on: April 12, 2014, 01:07:45 AM
im laughing
3031  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 12, 2014, 12:24:49 AM
22TH now?

3032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 11, 2014, 05:47:07 PM
BCMultipool needs to tear down that big 40btc on mintpal when it appears again


3033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Survey time! Was 340 the final bottom? on: April 11, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
No blood in the streets.

Still bearish and not bottom.

3034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 11, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
I'm looking forward to buy a decent amount of BC and hold on to it. I already have an account on BTER . Any good reason why I should NOT buy there?

Mintpal is better IMHO.

Depends how much you're buying. But yes, MintPal has more volume and that's where I go. There's also cryptsy with higher prices usually.

Only advantage to Cryptsy over the others is they pay you your coin stake!

Oh wow that's good to know
3035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 05:06:59 AM
Bull trap
3036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
down we go
3037  Economy / Speculation / Re: Weak hands, greed, and proportions on: April 10, 2014, 09:53:59 PM
I myself am still bearish.  This mornings drop really caught me off guard, but it's moving closer to my buy zone.  I think we have a bit more to go before we bottom out.

3038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: FACTS about Multipools and why you shouldn't mine on them on: April 10, 2014, 09:40:41 PM
if you wanted to protect your shitty scam coin from the multipools you should of implemented kgw or dark gravity or better yet gone to x11

3039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Official] Cryptsy News and Info thread *moderated* on: April 10, 2014, 09:27:22 PM
interesting move with these mining contracts
3040  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] AlcheMiner Scrypt ASIC IPO Friday April 11 on: April 10, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
I just checked out the website and it looks interesting. I take it the miners being offered are not for mining BTC. What Alt currencies can be mined with these?

If I purchased the ALCHEMIST 128Mh/s miner for $9995 and received it in July could I have any chance of making my money back (or dare I say make a profit) by mining Alt coins? Those familiar with mining Alt coins please comment if this is viable and what I can expect to generate on a daily basis with this machine.

It depends.

Only a few select altcoins are profitable.  I got very lucky with Doge & Aur.

There's a ton, but it seems like most altcoins are moving to a new algo (x11)..there was even talk about hardforking ltc to a new algo as well...


edit: X11 right now is asic resistant.  When script asics come out I am anticipating most alt coins to not be script (asic resistant)


edit again: also you need to considar the knc titan...250MH for around the same price.. delivery is unknown but probabably shortly after this
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