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3021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: December 27, 2016, 06:58:59 AM
this version is a bit slower for me than nicehash last version, getting 3% less speed compated to nicehash even with the two instances
3022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Genoil's ZEC miner: AMD ZCash miner for Windows - 0.6 on: December 27, 2016, 06:52:56 AM
So is Genoil miner "depracted"?


Will that be updated?

no he said that there was no competition anymore with clymore and left this behind, if you want an amd miner for zec just go with clymor

i was going to wait for a nvidia miner from genoil but he was not interested it seems...sadly
3023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 26, 2016, 08:31:58 PM

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

With what miner?

with the nicehash miner

Hmm is this with some hardcore OC?
I am getting 330 at 65% TDP - 120W and it still drops if I move to 60% or lower.

Edit: I see that 1.7.3.11 has been released. Will check it out.
Indeed getting 380 now.

yeah just reduce tdp to 55% for 100watt, hash will be around the same
3024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [Maxwell/Pascal] + CPU mining v1.0.4a on: December 26, 2016, 03:49:42 PM
Does anybody achieve 430 sol in 6x-rig per gtx 1070 (sum=2580)?

it's possible with very high memory oc, and core above 100, tdp and wattage also will be higher, but it also depend on the model of your gpu

i'm at 2500 with 1000 watt at the wall, much better to do 2220 at 700 watt for me

Agreed, rentability is better @700w, but it depends if you pay for electricity and if it's cheap or not, sadly for me it's expensive, so just like you i mine @50% tdp ^^

yeah if i had 5 cent electricity i would go with 2500+ sol 1000watt, as it will earn you more in the long term but it's not the case for me either
3025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What we mine??? ETH-ETC-ZEC on: December 26, 2016, 01:46:27 PM
you can do better on etheruem a 470 can reach 27 and 30 with some heavy tweaking, otherwise i would mine zec no question, has a better chance to be pumped, etheruem is done
3026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [Maxwell/Pascal] + CPU mining v1.0.4a on: December 26, 2016, 10:30:40 AM
Does anybody achieve 430 sol in 6x-rig per gtx 1070 (sum=2580)?

it's possible with very high memory oc, and core above 100, tdp and wattage also will be higher, but it also depend on the model of your gpu

i'm at 2500 with 1000 watt at the wall, much better to do 2220 at 700 watt for me
3027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins on vps on: December 26, 2016, 06:53:33 AM
If it's free you will be 99% banned for crypto mining, btw you could share how you got it  Grin

i also have some vps but i think using it mine coin is useless

they are but they were useful in the past to mine with cointellect and make tons of money in a short time, not the time anymore for that

even mining cpu coin now is not profitable, unless you have a botnet not a single vps
3028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: December 25, 2016, 06:59:04 PM
We need speed-up! new eqm release shows 420s/s per 1070.
For me it's even 435 Sols / s.

what settings and model you have?

even on updated bios, my Gigabytes g1 1070s still make 300 sols at most with this miner.

360 sols with nicehash one.

i cant find the sweet point of theses cards.. i´m getting tired of them.

exactly gigabyte seems to perform worse here, but if i try 80% tdp two instances with 125 core and 400 mem i get a total of 2500 sol with 6 card, so i'm there

still 435 sol is out of my league

It's funny i can reach this speed (2500 sols@80% tdp) with EQM of nicehash, but not with EWBF, how do you setup your instancing ? using the cuda-devices switch and listing only half your gpu's per bat file right ?

ah yes sry i was talking about the nicehash miner of course, not possible to reach it with this miner
3029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 25, 2016, 04:31:31 PM
No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better

You are right, Amph. Also, real prices are not listed. AMD Fury is much more than a listed prices. Here is the actual price at the same shop in the EU:


On ebay there is some fury at 260 USD:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Graphics-Video-Cards/27386/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fury&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-R9-Fury-100379NTOC-SR-4GB-4096-Bit-HBM-TRI-X-OC-UEFI-Vi-/291648915692?hash=item43e7a148ec:g:A8QAAOSwu1VW7qbd
, also on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
btw I never bought or tried fury as I know its consume 300W so I prefer to buy 290 or 290x @ 200USD (used). So i wonder if fury consumes 100W


man read the description, that gpu was tested, tested for me is equal to used, it's not brand new then, so the comparison must be done with a used 1070

a used 1070 can be found for 300-350 at worst


it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

With what miner?

with the nicehash miner
3030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: December 25, 2016, 04:27:10 PM
We need speed-up! new eqm release shows 420s/s per 1070.
For me it's even 435 Sols / s.

what settings and model you have?

even on updated bios, my Gigabytes g1 1070s still make 300 sols at most with this miner.

360 sols with nicehash one.

i cant find the sweet point of theses cards.. i´m getting tired of them.

exactly gigabyte seems to perform worse here, but if i try 80% tdp two instances with 125 core and 400 mem i get a total of 2500 sol with 6 card, so i'm there

still 435 sol is out of my league
3031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: December 25, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
We need speed-up! new eqm release shows 420s/s per 1070.
For me it's even 435 Sols / s.

what settings and model you have?
3032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [Maxwell/Pascal] + CPU mining v1.0.3b on: December 25, 2016, 01:41:41 PM
Did anyone try 1050 and 1050 Ti with the latest version? What's the hashrate at stock?

it should be at least 1/3 of the 1070 so 140 sol with 35watt, it was 120 before if i'm correct

Yup, check power numbers. New version uses 10% more... but still more efficient then the last version.

it give me the same power as before but hashrate is 12% higher at least, same settings as before
3033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Place for your mining rigs on: December 25, 2016, 09:25:41 AM
i don't like to ship a full rig, it may be damaged or something, the best solution is to just give you the money and you build the rig that i want

let's say i want a 6x1070 rig with h81 pro btc ssd 60gb 8 gb ram and g1840 + 6 risers, how much woul cost me there?

a rig like this would do $300 a month gross minus electricity(1000w per hour), will be $270, minus 10% for you, would be $243

buying a 470 rig would do around half of that(200-220 sol per gpu), so i don't see the reason to go with amd here, i would only waste money in components that do not mine
3034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: H81 Pro BTC R2.0 on: December 25, 2016, 07:43:42 AM
For me it work as good as older revision, but price is higher.

I was going to buy this, however, I have just noticed the first PCIE x1 slot next to the x16 slot will be blocked by the fans/heatsink if I put a card in the x16 slot.

I already have 5 USB PCIE x1 -> x16 risers and don't want to buy a single x16 -> x16 riser.

Anybody know of a mobo that doesn't have this problem with room for at least 6 gfx cards?



how it is blocked it's the same as the old h81 pro btc? if you ean the cpu ehatsink it will be fine
3035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 25, 2016, 07:07:27 AM
No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember that on large scale the less rig you have that do the job the better
3036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 24, 2016, 09:59:38 PM
No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    330        95             0.825
Fury   $260    285        95             1.096

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
3037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Place for your mining rigs on: December 24, 2016, 09:54:17 PM

why shipping? i come up with a better alternative, you just give him the money and he build and host your rig there, you then pay for the electricity cost and give him an additional 10% of your earning for the hosting

Georgia's prices on rig's parts cannot compete with Amazon and Newegg



amazon do not sell to georgia?
3038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Place for your mining rigs on: December 24, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
well a rig don't occupy that much of a space, especially if you stack them up

isn't better for you to charge a % on the hosting instead? like 5-10% on the total revenue of the hosted rigs?

what about trust? how can we trust you?

The percentage might be better for me. I'd be willing to give him let's say 10-20% of what the rig produces and up to 33% if he can pay for the shipping. Ii would cost something like 77$ to ship 12kg, so might be worth for him or not. There's something to do here I believe.

why shipping? i come up with a better alternative, you just give him the money and he build and host your rig there, you then pay for the electricity cost and give him an additional 10% of your earning for the hosting

I already have rigs that I can't run here because of the high price of electricity. I've already spent too much money on those rigs that have been turned off for now. I don't want to invest a penny further into something that will break even in so much time.

currently even with 40-50 cent electricity you cna make profit, you have really an electricity higher than 40-50 cent per kwh? this is crazy
3039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (Windows/Linux) on: December 24, 2016, 04:35:22 PM

Stock GTX 1070 = 360 Sol/s @ 150 W
OC GTX 1070 (clock @ 2050, mem @ 4500) = 410 Sol/s @ 170 W
Efficient GTX 1070 (TDP 50%, mem @ 4500) = 330 Sol/s @ 95 W
dead AMD its near  Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
Nvidia rules

35% more expensive for 35% more hash.  We know.  You are not unleashing secrets here...

wrong, cost double of a 470 but it hash at double the speed or near that, the difference is the efficiency which is far greater

my 470 nitro 8g samsung mem are doing 260 each when properly tuned, so eff is lower but hashrate is more than half the 1070's


still not worth it because of density, better to have 4 rig than 9 rig doing the same, you waste money on uselesses components

on large scale the 1070 win without doubts
3040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Place for your mining rigs on: December 24, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
well a rig don't occupy that much of a space, especially if you stack them up

isn't better for you to charge a % on the hosting instead? like 5-10% on the total revenue of the hosted rigs?

what about trust? how can we trust you?

The percentage might be better for me. I'd be willing to give him let's say 10-20% of what the rig produces and up to 33% if he can pay for the shipping. Ii would cost something like 77$ to ship 12kg, so might be worth for him or not. There's something to do here I believe.

why shipping? i come up with a better alternative, you just give him the money and he build and host your rig there, you then pay for the electricity cost and give him an additional 10% of your earning for the hosting

that's why i was talking about trust before

Trust is always an issue I know, but In fact I do this for living. I maintain BTC and other cryptocurrency farms in and near Tbilisi, Georgia.
I thought more people would be interested in low electricity price and ready environment that's why I'm planing to get a place with all necessary stuff and offer a service like this.
Also everything will be official.
Charging % is also an idea, but needs calculations.
Also you are right Rig doesn't require much space, but what if you want to fill up 100sqm? How much are you willing to pay the rent for 100sqm with air flow and conditioning and no power limit?
I know I need a lot of calculations to do

if we can overcome the trust thing i'm very interested in this, but i'll build it slowly, let's say i'll try with one rig to see how the thing go and then add the others

rig would be controlled remotely with teamviewer for example, and like i said i pay for the electricity and an additional % that must be calculated right, so we both have a nice deal
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