Just sent PM to you.. ...

Yeah,

Maybe Nick and I could go for a coffee... or a beer...   ?     .... 

Nick -

Pray, be more specific.  I have reread the paragraph, and I see NO problem with it, in terms of communicating my intended message.

Maybe you could highlight whatever portion(s) of the paragraph that bothers you or makes you believe that there is some kind of miscommunication, wordiness or misunderstanding on my part.  I'm surely interested in learning my faux pas or whatever other communication deviation that you believe that i may have made therein, so long as you remain civil about the matter.  

Otherwise, maybe you would like to send me a PM to clarify if you are inclined towards more personal discussions of this topic - that seems to deviate from the bitcoin subject matter of this thread... Usually personal matters, if that's what you are getting at, are better dealt with in private.  Let me know, either way.

Sincerely,

JJG

I kind of enjoy when people refer to it as bitcorn... makes me chuckle on the inside.

Let me get this straight.  You are obtaining your probabilities by detecting a pattern of behavior of the bots?  or how else would you be able to get percentages that change daily?    So maybe for example approximately on average every 4 days the bots break up or down... and the longer they go without breaking out, the more the likelihood for breaking out?  

WOW...  You seem to be onto something Walsoraj.....  that is really really funny to NOT hear from Satoshi in that particular thread for 5 years ... and then all of a sudden for some reason Satoshi Nakamoto, if that is really Satoshi, feels such a need to comment within that particular dormant thread and to say that he is NOT Dorian... ... I thought that we had NOT heard from Satoshi since about mid-2011 or so... which would then cause me to begin to believe that maybe Satoshi is Dorian.. b/c why would the real Satoshi care enough to reply in a dormant thread concerning whatever is going on with Dorian...   In this regard, the real Satoshi should NOT give a flying fuck about whatever is going on with Dorian or that Dorian is being confused for Satoshi.. unless Dorian is the real Satoshi...

YEAH... and the whales pull some of these walls (under their control) on purpose b/c they want to buy up those orders and move the price upward and suck up all those coins



It will look the same or at least very similar, just less volatile b/c it takes 5 times more fiat to manipulate.





Yeah... that is why we had that sword picture of Mark stabbing Satoshi b/c Mark considers Satoshi to be his competition ... that fucking evil little brat!!!

Tailor:    

I believe that my thinking is kind of aligning with yours on this point... maybe the longer we read each other's posts the more our thinking aligns... hehehe...

Surely there was some early creations that became inspirational to the evolution of bitcoin... and the evolution does seem kind of fanciful, when one thinks back upon it...... and whether some of the story or the lore of bitcoin is true may NOT be relevant - however, these kinds of stories will be used by pro and by cons to argue their points or even to argue concerning the original intent... and the direction that we should go with bitcoin.

 The white paper does describe aspects of the original intent, and maybe some of those concepts within the white paper will have to evolve to in order to adapt bitcoin to the real world bitcoin application and maybe unexpected turns of events that may take place, to the extent that the unexpected may come about?  Yes... evolution .. NOT creation.. . hehehe

Personally, I do NOT believe that this BTC price matter is govt controlled.    What I believe happens, is that a wall is created... for example at $700, and then the wall creator, whale, manipulates to make it appear that there is a lot of selling resistance,  and then he allows build up of sellers to build up until all of a sudden he will pull the wall and also probably stimulate sales incrementally and the price will go up. He then cashes in on a lot of those sold BTC and then puts up another wall.. maybe at 700 or some other amount that the market will NOT easily penetrate... rinse and repeat ... these whales are making a killing... and they do so within the parameters of what we, as a conglomerate, are willing to pay for BTC.

Either Satoshi or Bitcoin will be Time's man of the year.... hehehe  


By the way, what is CCMF?  Is it "Choo Choo Mother Fucker?"

I doubt that even if he were revealed that he would cash out.  He may take some out, but NOT all in one shot.. that is too extreme and too out of character.

I see.  For you "audit" means a statement by the company that they have done an audit and everything was OK.   So it was only a misunderstanding on the meaning of that word, sorry.
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Even though they do NOT provide a number, it is quite amazing if any exchanges are holding, in trust between 1 and 2 million bitcoins....

That would be totally amazing if bitcoin were to take over all of the world economy... and really that kind of scenario seems pretty highly unlikely... b/c there would seem to be some value in retaining some value in other asset classes.. besides bitcoin..

I don't doubt that there are various plots to undermine BTC prices and to undermine the whole public perception regarding BTC.  HOWEVER, the prices are ONLY going to be able to be held DOWN for so long.  After a while the dam is going to have to burst b/c the whale bots are NOT going to be able to stop the upward momentum... whether that takes a few days, a few weeks or several months, the time is gonna come.. likely before the end of the calendar year in which we are probably be in the $1500 or more area.. outside of the control of the whale/bot manipulators or whoever else may be engaging in tactics to keep BTC prices down.

WE HAVE to be a subscriber of the sunday times to read Smith's article.  Accordingly, I have NOT seen Smith's article.






This is fairly high speculation; however, I bet that if one million BTC were dumped onto one or more of the exchanges, BTC price would soon recover.  

We may get prices into the $100 range, but I really doubt that BTC price would go much below $100 and it would likely NOT stay there for a very long time.... Although, surely that large of a dump would surely cause a certain amount of panic if we did NOT know from where those 1 million coins were coming.. and others would likely choose to short their coins upon speculation of the price drop... and sure the domino effect of dumping would cause a large dump and then a large repurchasing the coins at a lower price.   I guess my point is that 1 million coin dump would NOT be the demise of BTC.. especially since currently there are only about 12.5 million BTC and some investors may consider an opportunity to buy cheap coins as a means to attempt to take control over a larger percentage of the BTC supply.

Fair enough that you have your mantra or your view of things in which you seem to want to simplify and to describe BTC bullishness attitudes as a form of cultish behavior.

 Frequently, there is some truth to any fiction and/or any propaganda, including the framework that you are outlining.  

I do NOT really have any major problem with you having your viewpoint and expressing it - though I remain somewhat bothered that your simplification has a tendency to dilute and distract and to mislead....  and also sometimes it rises to the level of patronizing and criticizing guys for being blind followers - when that frequently is NOT the case.  YET, I have seen that a few of your posts have made decent points, from time to time, so long as you steer clear from what seems to rise to personal attacks.

By the way, my various times stating, millions, billions or gazillions, it does NOT matter was to suggest that the exact number was NOT the point that was being made at that particular time... though, I recognize that sometimes, we may need to get fairly specific concerning the numbers that we are considering.... .. and in that regard if we were to take a snapshot of bitcoin's current infrastructure, we are going to come up with several ways to calculate the value of that infrastructure.. and some ways are going to produce larger numbers depending upon which aspects of the infrastructure that are included in such snapshot(s).

 

It seems that we already determined, several times in the past day that this religious accusation that is leveled at bullish bitcoiners is bunk.  

These ups and downs have to be more descriptive in the media to be accurate (I am NOT holding my breath) - b/c it is really misleading to suggest bitcoin went down to $92 in any meaningful way, when it only went down to $92 on one exchange in which many people did NOT have access to such $92 prices b/c money was NOT easily moved in or out.  

And at the same time, overall BTC did get into the lower $400s at some point after the shutting down of GOX, yet when GOX was at $92, overall BTC was in the upper $500's I believe.   And, as far as the $102, that was a flash crash on BTC-e.  If a person had set their buy orders, low, then those people could have benefited from the $102 flash crash; however, the flash crash took place so quickly that it would have been difficult to place a buy order, while the flash crash was happening.  I was on BTC e website at the time, and I saw that prices go from $610-ish to lower $500s, I was NOT looking at my screen when it went lower than that, and I had NO idea until later.  

I am NOT in the practice of putting posters on ignore; however, I do place them in a mental category regarding whether they tend to add value. 

Here, it appears that the ONLY value that HDBuck seems to add is the entertainment value of distraction from the topic of the thread.