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 Pre-sale is going good! Already a lot of money collected! Very nice! Now its the time to buy because of the 30% bonus! Great work guys It's going nicely indeed. 1.5m USD is a good amount of money for every project. What was the soft cap by the way? |
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I am not here for cliff or Antonio. I like the project from day one and I love the team is putting very good effort for it. They made good publicities, joined prestigious expos and conferences. They have a good hype from day one and they are continuing of it. But never make your decision by my say, cliff's sale or somebodys say. Just make your own investigation. It's obvious that we are very near to presale, now if you are still undecided, you had little time left for biggest bonuses |
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You know what I hate? Those offers where you have to show your proof of purchase to get a bonus or a cashback. You take a photo of the receipt, fill in the form and after 4 weeks they let you know they couldn't read the invoice number or something like that. Sometimes I think they do that on purpose. Anyway. Would GATCOIN also be able to streamline that process?
In my country, there is not a system you mentioned right now or in the past. And I don't think that a project like gatcoin who just want to make more of a practical system, won't go for it. |
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Yes 80% is incredible, remember that 15% a years is a huge benefit from trading. So 80% a mounth is incredible. But not impossible, the algorithm of NapoleonX seems to be very good, and the different Daf will allow us to choose between different strategies and different profit possibility.
It will be the best way to make your trading worth. 80% may feel exaggerated but not impossible. Beta testing should be given and that will turn the tables for the haters. considering how volatile the crypto space is , you can expect large returns, but only if the bots work properly. I can't believe people are really arguing about monthly %80 profit. If you have 1.000$ with that ratio you will have more than 1.1m $ in one year, so it is not realistic. If you have exaggerated dreams, the outcome may disappoint you. Don't do like that. |
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I just saw this in soma ann thread. Utrust is having a partnership with them. Soma is proud to announce a partnership with Utrust! Utrust is a revolutionary payment platform that empowers buyers to pay with cryptocurrencies while providing a groundbreaking purchase protection mechanism. Soma and Utrust will both benefit by this fruitful partnership and we are excited to begin this collaboration as a long-term union between two innovative concepts. You can read more from Utrust on their website https://utrust.io/Soma is a nice project and their ico going well. With this arrangement, both parties will grow. It's very good news for both of them. |
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I was already thinking to invest in utrsut and soma. Now they announced a partnership. Very happy about it, two very solid project. They will be bigger together.
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Very Important Hint: if you have any tokens just sitting around and waiting to be traded to buy PPP, do it now! The time is now! Be ready Is presale starting? I checked website instantly but there is still the same. It's an important hint. |
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I just saw this project.
Am i understanding it correctly?
It's a platform for professional traders. We will look and see their success ratio and put our money to trader to make his trades for us or just copy his trades.Like 1broker's function?
And every professional trader would have his own coin.
Hi! Not exactly - the platform will allow all people to manage investments, however, some check are implemented to insure investors interests. But the main mechanism is that, indeed, all investors will be able to see the most successful traders and invest with them by buying their token. 1broker, Etoro and Zulutrade are all centralized platforms, but only Genesis Vision can be genuinely honest and transparent, every piece of info on the platform can be checked and verified. Invest with them by buying their tokens? I don't quite understand what it means. Could you please elaborate a bit on why would investors will buy trader's tokens? Why not just buy whatever a top rated trader is buying. Correct me if im wrong, as i understand it now. If we buy the token, we are basicly buying a part of the investors portfolio? And investor will have more money to invest. So its like a staking thing, where u buy his token, he has more money in portfolio and you get a piece of that portfolio. So if the investor does well, your token is worth more. That means Genesis token holders will get profit from each profitable trade? Still not sure about that. I'm trying to summarise the things in my head. If a manager has a token and he is doing well, the token price will rise cause everybody wants a piece of the portfolio. So token will be created by a manager and he will sell them to investors. For example, He made 100.000 tokens and sold 50.000 of it. So he has %50 of his portfolio and market has %50. If it is true then, Portfolio value = his start-up money + investments? And if he is good and makes a profit 100.000$. Will he take 50.000 and investors got 50.000? If he lost nearly all of it, no money to divide and 0 token value. |
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Is Utrust platform designed to be a payment medium similar to the Paypal system? Also Is this ICO offering a utility token, or is it a security? The video said that Utrust acts as a utility, but American citizens can't participate in the ICO. Can someone provide a little clarity? Thanks!
I though Americans can't participate in all ICO's, not just security ones. as far as I understand it, it is paypal for crypto and the token is utilitarian. hm.. but Utrust its Portuguese company? Right? USA people cant take part in ICO? Also Canadian? May be this is good.. because they will buy late on the exchanges  haha,yeah..but they do find a way to connect and participate..we are in a free world with full of intelligent people haha they will always find a way.. I would not recommend to invest if the country you are citizin in restricts you from it. If you make a profit you will have a hard time getting the money, and you dont want to explain your illegal profits to the tax gov of the usa It would be better if you buy the token/coin later on the exchange. Violating USA regulations isnt good at all, especially if you get caught. There don't have the ressources to put the ban into action. How do you want the US government to check if it's citizen took part into the ICO knowing that their fiat investment went surely thought multiples different blockchains ? You are right but still, it is illegal. If you are a small investor, no-one will know probably. But if you are a big investor getting audited, you will have some hard time to explain it. If you are US citizen, it is your own risk to participate. |
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How much % profit per mounth (or day) can generate this trading bots?
That's the best question i have ever seen this week. It is aproximetly %80 profit per day  Joking aside, there is not a guarantee that it will get you profit all the time. Maybe sometimes it will end in a loss. But in long-term, I am trusting napoleonx team that their bots will be better than most of us. So in the beginning, when the bots are not perfect, losing is also possible right? Losing is always possible. Same goes for day trade by humans. You have to see it in a long term relation. If you lose some money on one or two days but win much more on other days, you cancle the losses and will go out with much more money then before. Same goes for day trader. Some are trading in different cryptos for example, take some losses in one or two, but make money with some others, so that they go out with more then they had before. Exactly, there is not a bot or human can always make the right trade. There will be a loss too. The important thing is, make the losses minimum. I am hoping to napoleonx to do so. My bet on their bots to gain more money than losing. If you are hoping to win every time, you are not in the right place. |
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We don't know how GAT system will be on mobile, maybe there will be a 12 words seed to recover your account anytime (just like jaxx and many coins like ark, rise etc...). However, I'd really like a desktop app along with mobile app
Whatever they do, the front-end needs to be as simple as possible for even the least tech savvy people, yet still be secure. Have crypto wallets ever been tested for user friendliness? With all due respect to the elderly, you can't bother granny shopping at the grocery store with things like seeds and encrypting wallet.dat. The more simple the better but it also has to be secure. If many lose their money it will be a bad publicity. I think the development team will always adhere the paradigm of good software engineering such as user friendliness, robustness, effectiveness...etc.. in making mobile wallet for GATCOIN. I think so too. The project is interesting especially for Japan, where crypto-currencies are very popular. And when will the mobile application be released? Look at their road map (at first page). Wellet app will be release in June 2018. Its will be for IOS and android. But I hope devs will make wallet for PC also. Also, I think they must make wallet for PC at first.. I really can't see the point why people so badly want a windows wallet. We are talking about reward programs, where probably most people use them in regular shops and not online. By the way, as their first partner is a Japanese company, Japanese nearly all the time use smartphones, but rarely use PCs. Of course not everyone is acting like this, but the majority. Everybody is afraid of hacking I guess. They are thinking the most secure way is windows wallet. But secure or not, I don't like windows wallets. I always have too many coins, tokens etc. If I save them all on my computer it will be a wallet garbage. Android or web wallets are the best for me. Well, there are a lot of people be afraid of hacking, but that is something which can also happen on a PC. Sure, you can protect your PC better then a smartphone but still. I said why they are asking for it, I didn't say they are right Most of the hacks happening because of the user's mistakes. For instance, if you are importing your mew address anywhere you see, it will be gone at some point. |
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So many questions and so less answers, only guesses.
Who is the dev here in bitcointalk?
ColorlessK is the OP-creator as far as I see and even he didn't respond since days.
I am sur the devs will answer the questions in 1 block. Community is too much important to ignore it now He is right, there should be more answers. I believe they have too many things to get order but still, they should communicate with their community more. |
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Actually, the company that created the project is a legit software accounting company with many years of experiences, so yeah, they have all the competencies for a project like this, they know the market and know what it needs to be improved.
Sure, I believe the company is legitimate too. No doubt, there is no issue of scam. But this is not my point. Every transaction involves risk, and a mechanism needs to be in place to significantly reduce, if not eliminate, such risk. So far I really don't see any mechanism in place to deal with such risk. Like I said before, it means nothing to do risk scoring and/or KYC on the SMEs selling the invoice, because they are not the weakest link. PayPie is basically just trying to indirectly monetize its SlickPie customer base through blockchain. Everything else is hype. No doubt its customer base may grow. But the issue here is the quality of the invoices that will be traded at PayPie market/platform/exchange. How will PayPie try to prevent and/or recover any default?Sure all transaction has risks, but if no mechanism is in place to reduce the risk, then you can bet things will 100% go out of control. I say it again, risk scoring and/or KYC on the SMEs are irrelevant. Edit: The kind of competency I meant relates to legal competency, not accounting software competency. Edit #2: Waiting for the SMEs' invoices to default (and cause token holders to lose money) before we know who to stay away from, is a very bad approach. If 1000 of SlickPie's customers unknowingly submit $100,000 worth of invoices to sell that will end up default, that translates to $100 million of loss. And without any mechanism in place to enforce the quality of invoices to sell, SMEs (regardless of their credit scores) will naturally try to sell the ones with lowest chance of recovery. And the worse part of PayPie's mechanism is that such junk invoices will actually be sold based on bidding process (!) as if the bidders would know any better. Edit #3: What makes Populous stands out is that there is no transfer of ownership of the invoices (unlike PayPie) and so the SME will still have obligation to do the recovery for the buyers. And Populous shifts the weakest link from the entity-debtor to the SME-seller, put a risk scoring on it based on the proven Altman Z-score metric with insurance, guarantee, and/or debenture for safety. No doubt Populous will have a much harder time trying to penetrate larger market share with such strict requirement, but rest assured most (if not all) invoices that will be traded at Populous will be high-quality stuffs. Wow what a post. Actually, I am not understanding all the thing you wrote. Some of them beyond my language and technical knowledge. I hope paypie team read here and make necessary answers to things you pointed or just upgrade the project. I am really looking forward to it. But thanks for your contribitiun. A good community don't just brag, it also point out the shortcomings. |
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Is there any announcements regarding the awaited ico of utrust?
Same here, I also wanted to know what is the current update of the Utrust ICO. Oh and when is the ICO date if some of you may know because I couldn't find it anywhere? Maybe there are some adjustment to be happen with regards to ICO. As far as I know we can wait until Octoner 15. Because there is some changes in total coin capacity and prices. But the community is really waiting for some news regarding this ICO. I thought it would be announced on the 1st. People need to know more and so are the investors Lets hope they will announce something today! A little bit of pressure never hurts  They said that they will announce it in the first week of October. So there is not too much time left, I hope they hold their promises. By the way, I am an impatient guy and when I hear the first week of something I always think it will be on the first day. So it wasn't  |
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How much % profit per mounth (or day) can generate this trading bots?
That's the best question i have ever seen this week. It is aproximetly %80 profit per day Joking aside, there is not a guarantee that it will get you profit all the time. Maybe sometimes it will end in a loss. But in long-term, I am trusting napoleonx team that their bots will be better than most of us. |
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What will happen to unsold tokens after the ICO? Will they be burned or used for building a community or promotion the project?
I want to know also what are you going to do to unsold tokens? I suggest dont burn it because its help to yoir project , its better if you create social media campaign and many campaigns that promote soma coin so it will become popular and once list to the exchanges site many trader will buy because they see the potential of soma. I think that if they don't raise the minimum cap, it is better to burn the tokens, because it will be beneficial for investors. Yes, burning the unsold tokens is one solution. Another one is to freeze them for a certain time period like 5 years and then again do ICO at the current price. Dont freeze, just burn! Burning will give the investors more profit and the price of the tokens will keep rising. If they have there max cap they dont need to do anything so hope they dont have to burn or freeze It's the good thing for us but not the best thing for them. If they burn them it will be generous, but if they keep them, i can't blame them. |
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We don't know how GAT system will be on mobile, maybe there will be a 12 words seed to recover your account anytime (just like jaxx and many coins like ark, rise etc...). However, I'd really like a desktop app along with mobile app
Whatever they do, the front-end needs to be as simple as possible for even the least tech savvy people, yet still be secure. Have crypto wallets ever been tested for user friendliness? With all due respect to the elderly, you can't bother granny shopping at the grocery store with things like seeds and encrypting wallet.dat. The more simple the better but it also has to be secure. If many lose their money it will be a bad publicity. I think the development team will always adhere the paradigm of good software engineering such as user friendliness, robustness, effectiveness...etc.. in making mobile wallet for GATCOIN. I think so too. The project is interesting especially for Japan, where crypto-currencies are very popular. And when will the mobile application be released? Look at their road map (at first page). Wellet app will be release in June 2018. Its will be for IOS and android. But I hope devs will make wallet for PC also. Also, I think they must make wallet for PC at first.. I really can't see the point why people so badly want a windows wallet. We are talking about reward programs, where probably most people use them in regular shops and not online. By the way, as their first partner is a Japanese company, Japanese nearly all the time use smartphones, but rarely use PCs. Of course not everyone is acting like this, but the majority. Everybody is afraid of hacking I guess. They are thinking the most secure way is windows wallet. But secure or not, I don't like windows wallets. I always have too many coins, tokens etc. If I save them all on my computer it will be a wallet garbage. Android or web wallets are the best for me. |
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I just saw this project.
Am i understanding it correctly?
It's a platform for professional traders. We will look and see their success ratio and put our money to trader to make his trades for us or just copy his trades.Like 1broker's function?
And every professional trader would have his own coin.
Hi! Not exactly - the platform will allow all people to manage investments, however, some check are implemented to insure investors interests. But the main mechanism is that, indeed, all investors will be able to see the most successful traders and invest with them by buying their token. 1broker, Etoro and Zulutrade are all centralized platforms, but only Genesis Vision can be genuinely honest and transparent, every piece of info on the platform can be checked and verified. So we can say that genesis vision is a decentralized and transparent version of 1broker, etoro etc with no leverage of course. Actually, I tried 1broker some time ago and liked it. But it had very big spread, of course in genesis vision there won't be a leverage so no spread. I would like to see genesis vision when it is active. |
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Yes the community is really hyped about paypie, and the project has a huge support from the community. It’d a pretty good indicator, cause he commmunity is smart and big support come for big project. The value of paypie will be incredible I think, im impatient to see the ico start !
Famouse man joined to this project (I mean Antonio) and now a lot of people can see, that this project have a seriously plan and perspective. Antonio or like you call him Famouse man is just an icing on the the cake. The validity of the project has always been intact "famouse" it is like a dessert name. Joking aside, you are right about metaphor. It's icing and the important thing is cake. Or maybe pie. Nonetheless, the project is the number one priority which is looking very good. |
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