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3041  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 03, 2014, 10:50:41 PM
Ponzi owners say to users that is "120%" "LEGIT" "STABLE" and other shit. They do not say - you MIGHT lost lost your money.

When you place a bet @casino - you know what you are doing and you know before you place a bet that you can be a looser or a winner Smiley

that is main different between Ponzi and other gambling projects.

PonziCoin says "So, I could lose all my investment? -> Yes, that is the gamble you take when playing Ponzi games," and, "you should never deposit more than you can risk losing." Does this make PonziCoin not a ponzi?

If there are many people who like traditional gambling games and not Ponzis, then a category should probably be created, but I'm not sure where the line would be drawn between Ponzis and other games. Maybe traditional games must be based 100% on chance? But that'd eliminate many other games as well.

Are you serious?  Casino games can be provably fair.  You don't go in expecting to win.  It's a chance.

If you're good at poker, you might go into a poker game expecting to win in a high percentage of games. Similarly, people skilled at playing Ponzis might expect to win often enough to get ahead. In both cases, newbies are very likely to lose a lot.

I think that it might actually be possible to make a Ponzi game trustless using advanced Bitcoin features like LockTime.

I think this is the crux of it all. Are these "games" which are labelled as ponzis, actually ponzis? They use the same "business model" as ponzis, however beneath it all true Ponzis are scams; fraudulent and deceptive.

How can something which clearly defines its purpose, be either fraudulent or deceptive?

Bias-ly, I honest believe, certainly what PonziCoin is offering, to be another form of gambling. Perhaps it doesn’t belong in the main gambling section, perhaps it's not a "gamble" everyone would like to participate in, but it is by no means a "scam".

Yes of course you're biased since you're a sleazy ponzi operator.
3042  Other / Meta / Re: Goods Forum is Now Fraudulent Xbox Forum on: March 03, 2014, 10:46:16 PM
Thank you malevolent. Some of these people feel no shame defrauding companies openly.
3043  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Free My Coke Rewards (75points per person) on: March 03, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Worked great! Thanks so much!!
3044  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Xbox Currency Shop | Cheap Prices - BTC Accepted - Prices Lowered on: March 03, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
willing to buy $100 code  for $60 in btc if you will send to me first. let me know


*EDIT: Won't send first under any circumstances. Did not trade.
3045  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 03, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
95% of poniz are scam.

You think 5% of ponzis are not scams?   Huh

All ponzis are scams.  New money to pay old debts. 

A lot of ponzis also happen on btcjam daily.

I said 95% because I dont want to say 100% because I cannot be sure is it really 100%.
Perhaps it is.

This are reasons why I dislije ponzis

100% are scams because of the setup. How would it be logical to permanently receive more money than put in?

This is the same as the first law of thermodynamics. You can't get more work out of something than you put in a closed system.

The pyramid of "investors" keeps stacking until the latest "investors" can no longer be paid out and the pyramid collapses crushing any chumps that thought they could make a quick buck.

This isn't gambling. This is stealing by preying on greed.
3046  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 03, 2014, 05:54:53 PM
I have a suggestion : create a Ponzi section and not allow newbies to create a post in this section, it will mean that only bitcointalk members that have been here for a while can post and create a new ponzi, that will avoid a lot of chea.p scams

Ponzis are a gambling game, I don't think they are way more evil than regular gambling if the owner is not luring people into thinking it is an investment and if he is not running away with the money.


This solution would wipe ponzi. It's only invested and promoted by brand new accounts to make it seem popular.
3047  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] Up to 0.3 BTC with PayPal on: March 03, 2014, 05:40:08 PM
Post here or message me if you are interested. Thanks

Paying bistamp rate


just suggest that paypal is high risk payment processor and many people will reject it.
If you have other payment method, you can using it, because a lot payment method, many people will like it.  Smiley

I had never even considered the thought of using an alternate payment processor. Thank the heavens you arrived in my thread to save me. Had I not had 30 other successful PayPal transactions. I might not know what to do.

It's always the people with no transaction history and no experience with trades telling me how to buy or sell. Thanks. Get out.
3048  Economy / Currency exchange / sold on: March 03, 2014, 05:57:53 AM
sold
3049  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 03, 2014, 05:19:52 AM
New categorization might be good, but what exactly distinguishes a Ponzi-type game from other gambling?

Ponzi is a pyramid scheme. Also, these operators create outlandish rules where if you don't deposit in certain time frames, you don't get any BTC back. That's not gambling. That's stealing.

At least with other forms of gambling, the system is "provably fair" to an extent.
3050  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 02, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
Looks like this complaint is falling on deaf ears. The amount of complicity for scamming on this forum is incredible.

99% of the time suggestions are not acted on even if the majority of people agree.

That's a serious forum issue in my opinion.
3051  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 02, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
Looks like this complaint is falling on deaf ears. The amount of complicity for scamming on this forum is incredible.
3052  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Far leftist Jewish woman goes on racist rampage against "white male" Bitcoiners on: March 01, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
I'm pretty sure that's a dude. He would fail any gender tests for a woman.
3053  Other / Meta / Re: The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 01, 2014, 07:08:59 PM
These ponzi posts and threads are entirely overwhelming the gambling board. I understand that people need to make their own decision when "investing" and that ponzis are identified as a gamble but it's beyond that.  There is a reason 3/4 of that board is filled up with PONZI PONZI PONZI. These operators are making a quick BTC. No reliable member has posted to start a ponzi. That should be pretty telling.

Is it possible to move these topics to another child board? Maybe "Ponzis" or "Scammy business ideas" Or even to "Games and rounds" under gambling. Anything to get rid of this clutter.

I doubt any reliable member would. They wouldn't be very reliable for long when the ponzi collapses  Cheesy.

For that reason I feel it's beyond a gamble to an open scam. Isolate the ponzi posts to a dead board so they die too.
3054  Other / Meta / The cancer that is Ponzi on: March 01, 2014, 05:28:26 PM
These ponzi posts and threads are entirely overwhelming the gambling board. I understand that people need to make their own decision when "investing" and that ponzis are identified as a gamble but it's beyond that.  There is a reason 3/4 of that board is filled up with PONZI PONZI PONZI. These operators are making a quick BTC. No reliable member has posted to start a ponzi. That should be pretty telling.

Is it possible to move these topics to another child board? Maybe "Ponzis" or "Scammy business ideas" Or even to "Games and rounds" under gambling. Anything to get rid of this clutter.
3055  Economy / Gambling / Re: TRUEPONZI:Automatic 1.7x Returns| Original 100% Ponzi| 5 BTCE Paid on: March 01, 2014, 05:17:46 PM
170% RETURN!?!?!

Not even fucking trying anymore with these scams.

These ponzis are a cancer on this board. They need to be moved to a trash child board like Games/Rounds or removed altogether
3056  Economy / Gambling / Re: all working ponzi 100% checked on: March 01, 2014, 05:14:51 PM
Ponzis play on the greed of the investors. How could it ever make sense that your immediate deposit leads to anything over 100% returns consistently?

MOST "INVESTORS" (I call them dumbasses) lose their money

The only person that makes out on these is the operator. Like the foreign fuck who keeps spamming his shitty sites. Cant speak English but he can sure whip up some scammy websites in a flash.
3057  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitBook.biz - Bitcoin sportsbook - Instant Withdrawals - Widely Trusted on: March 01, 2014, 04:50:22 PM
Quick Update:

Deposits and Bet Placing all working now.
All pending withdraws have been processed. Withdraws can still take up to 24 hours. Hoping to turn on auto-withdraw back on in a few days.

Thank you again for all your support and patience.

How is that? the site is still not even loading

Try http://bitbook.biz <- the difference is its not HTTPS

Thanks  Grin
3058  Economy / Gambling / Re: all working ponzi 100% checked on: February 28, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
ponzi operators are crooks. Why would you promote this?
3059  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTC INVEST | The Best Ponzi !|150% Profit ! | 10 minute Fast Payout ! on: February 28, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
This shit should be auto-removed. Just clutters space.
3060  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitBook.biz - Bitcoin sportsbook - Instant Withdrawals - Widely Trusted on: February 28, 2014, 11:09:18 PM
Any other reputable bitcoin sportsbooks around?
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