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3041  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Injuries as Car Drives Into Pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip on: December 21, 2015, 08:47:21 PM
Sounds like a homicidal maniac...Some retarded police there are calling it an accident.

"Everyone was running ... and as I was running, I saw a car up on the sidewalk coming to toward us," a witness told CNN affiliate KLAS. "I saw a lady, she didn't seem like she wanted to stop the car, she had both hands on her wheel."

The witness said people tried to stop the driver.

"I saw men running after her, yelling, 'stop, stop!' As she was passing, we saw people running after her. Everyone was so frantic and just running around."


Let's wait for the full name of the driver. If the full name is not released because of "an on going investigation blabla" then...





In a press conference today at noon led by Metro Sheriff Joe Lombardo, officials said that Holloway did tell them why she ran down the pedestrians, but because the investigation is ongoing they aren’t comfortable releasing the information to the public yet.


--------------------------
#blacklivesmatter ?

3042  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: December 21, 2015, 06:45:02 PM



Climate change shock: Burning fossil fuels 'COOLS planet', says NASA






Fossil fuel burning gives of aerosols which reflect sunlight

Major theories about what causes temperatures to rise have been thrown into doubt after NASA found the Earth has cooled in areas of heavy industrialisation where more trees have been lost and more fossil fuel burning takes place.

Environmentalists have long argued the burning of fossil fuels in power stations and for other uses is responsible for global warming and predicted temperature increases because of the high levels of carbon dioxide produced - which causes the global greenhouse effect.

While the findings did not dispute the effects of carbon dioxide on global warming, they found aerosols - also given off by burning fossil fuels - actually cool the local environment, at least temporarily.

The research was carried out to see if current climate change models for calculating future temperatures were taking into account all factors and were accurate.

A NASA spokesman said: "To quantify climate change, researchers need to know the Transient Climate Response (TCR) and Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS) of Earth.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/628524/Climate-change-shock-Burning-fossil-fuels-COOLs-planet-says-NASA







3043  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: December 21, 2015, 06:35:39 PM



"A mouth is a terrible thing to waste..."

3044  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 21, 2015, 06:32:59 PM
Come on Wil, don't make us do all the work!

What's this about?

What does "up like Trump" mean for the Donald?

What's your opinion?


People are starving for somebody who tells them how it is, who is not afraid to speak up.

You need to watch the whole video. It is entertaining, funny and sometime very sad. Win or lose he will not have to owe any promises to any lobbyists as he is self financing his campaign. He can spend 1B easy, if he sees the thirst for him is still there in the up coming months...

"Up like Trump" is something the donald is well aware of, as much as he was when loving/fighting/loving mac miller and his beat https://soundcloud.com/livepittsburgh/mac-miller-donald-trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TFS8r_SMI


Trump is now up. That was the perfect title for this thread. I do care about a good title thread if you've noticed...

 Smiley


So you support STUPID of SENSIBLE?

Tramp is cashing in on the fear of people and you SUPPORT that?

The fear of people: you mean criminals and supporters of the ☺religion☺ of ☺peace☺?
If you love those people then support your favorite lying candidate or the dwarf throwing saudi prince telling you how to vote.

 Cool

3045  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 21, 2015, 04:16:44 PM




The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders supporter — and value honesty


Alberto A. Martinez

It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald Trump.

Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.

But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most awful and offensive ways.

In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants are rapists.”

I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:

    “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s not what Trump claimed.

Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:

    The New York Times: “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”

    Time Magazine: “Trump’s comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”

    Associated Press: “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”

    CBS News: “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”

    L.A. Times: “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”

    Fortune: “in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”

    Hollywood Reporter: “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”

    Huffington Post: “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”

    The Washington Post: “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”

Compare such words with Trump’s words. Which is worse? Writers excerpted the phrase: “they’re rapists,” as if it were about all Mexican unauthorized immigrants, or worse, about all Mexican immigrants, or even worst, about all Mexicans. But that’s not what he said. That’s not what he meant. It was just a remark about some of the criminals crossing the border.

The trick for misrepresenting Trump’s words can be used against anyone.

For example, on October 7, at a Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton answered the question: “Which enemy are you most proud of?” She replied: “In addition to the NRA, um, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, um, the Iranians.”

If you do to her what the media did to Trump, then you should believe that Hillary Clinton is proud to be the enemy of 77 million citizens of Iran, plus millions more living outside Iran, including mothers, children, and disabled people. But that’s not what she meant.

On November 6, at the MSNBC Democratic Candidates Forum, Bernie Sanders said: “we have to pass a constitutional amendment that everyone in America who is 18 years old or older is registered to vote.” He said everyone. Someone might then write: “He proposed that everyone who is in the U.S. should vote, everyone who is 18, even illegal immigrants, tourists, and terrorists.” But that’s not what he meant.

It is no wonder that many people think the media is grossly dishonest. No wonder Mr. Trump’s critiques of the media make his followers cheer.

Trump was discussing crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants. Is it true that some people who illegally cross the border from Mexico are good? Yes. Is it true that some others commit crimes? Yes. Is that a problem? People disagree. Some conjecture that unauthorized immigrants don’t commit more crimes than U.S. citizens. But crimes by unauthorized immigrants, even murders, would not have happened if those individuals had not entered the U.S.

Time for a disclosure. I was born and raised in Puerto Rico. Spanish is my first language. I voted for Obama. I live in liberal Austin, Texas, where I work as a tenured professor of history. I’ve never voted for a Republican. My preferred candidate for U.S. president would be Elizabeth Warren. Since she is not running, my preferred candidate is Bernie Sanders.

Anyhow, discussions about illegal immigration are ruined by lack of data. I asked my friends, university faculty: “How many people do you think are deported per year in the U.S.?”

There are two kinds of deportations: some are caught near the border and “returned,” others are “removed” by a court order. Consider the border patrol agents, personnel, the bureaucracy, the lawyers, the resources needed to find people and deport them. How many were deported in 2014?

One of my friends guessed 3,000. Another guessed 10,000. Another guessed 50,000—which would really be a lot of people, imagine.

Actually, in fiscal year 2014, the U.S. deported a total of 893,238 foreigners! That’s a huge number. It includes 577,295 deported by the Department of Homeland Security, plus 315,943 deported by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Among the latter, 2,802 were classified as suspected or confirmed gang members.

Since 1990, the average is 1.2 million deportations per year. The highest in U.S. history was 1.86 million foreigners deported in the year 2000. That’s astonishing.

How many were criminals?

We don’t know because most criminals are not caught. Plus, many who are accused are not convicted because of a lack of evidence. Still, in 2014, the U.S. deported 177,960 convicted criminals. Surprisingly, 91,037 were already convicted criminals before they even entered the U.S.

At the University of Texas at Austin, the football stadium can seat 100,119 people. I have seen it full. I’ve see more than 100,000 people at once—it’s an incredible sight. It’s a staggering swarm of people. I have seen them yelling all at once.

It is utterly astonishing to me that this stadium would fail to seat all the convicted criminals deported in a single year.

Back to Mr. Trump. Did he unfairly single out Mexicans when complaining about crimes by unauthorized immigrants?

By far, most Mexicans are good people. However, since Mexico shares a large frontier with the U.S., and many Mexicans face economic hardships, most of the reported illegal immigration into the U.S. is from Mexico. Accordingly, in recent years roughly 76% of criminal unauthorized immigrants are from Mexico.

What kinds of crime? It is strangely difficult to find national statistics on homicides, sexual assaults, and thefts, by unauthorized immigrants. But there is relevant data for some states.

The Texas Department of Public Safety identified 207,076 foreign aliens who were booked into Texas county jails from October 2008 through August 1, 2014. Their term “foreign aliens” includes both foreigners who are in Texas legally and foreigners who entered illegally. They were accused of 357,884 crimes in those 70 months, including these charges: 4,413 terroristic threats, 60,973 robberies and larcenies, 6,636 vehicle thefts, 78,682 assaults, 12,869 sexual assaults and offenses, 1,113 kidnapping, and 3,089 homicides.

That includes, an average of 1,383 charges of sexual assaults per year, in Texas alone. The real number of rapes and sexual assaults is larger since many victims do not report these crimes. According to the National Crime and Victimization Survey, 2008-2012, approximately 68% of sexual assault crimes are not reported. So I estimate that foreigners commit roughly 4,000 sexual assaults in Texas each year.

In Texas, roughly 529 foreigners per year were accused of committing murder. Plus, the FBI reports that 36% of homicides nationwide remain unsolved.

These crime rates are staggering and offensive. None of the women and men who were killed in by unauthorized immigrants in Texas would have died if the murderers had not entered the U.S. illegally.

These are not just words. Pause for a moment to think about a Texas woman whose husband was murdered one night. Think about parents who never saw their son again because he was murdered. Think of the thousands of families standing at the cemeteries.

I’ve only summarized murders and sexual assaults. Consider drugs and drug violence. According to the Drug Enforcement Administration, most illegal drugs come from Mexico, including most cocaine and heroine. Most methamphetamines also are smuggled from Mexico. The 2015 National Drug Threat Survey finds that methamphetamines are the drugs that most contribute to property crimes and violent crimes. You get the point. There are tremendous problems of drugs, murders, and rapes caused at the porous border.

Without knowing the data, it was easy to be offended by Mr. Trump’s crude words when he announced his candidacy. However, seeing the data above, I understand his concerns.

Here’s what Trump said right after his words quoted above:

    “And it only makes common sense, it only makes common sense: they’re sending us not the right people, and it’s coming from more than Mexico, it’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably, probably from the Middle East. But we don’t know because we have no protection, and we have no competence. We don’t know what’s happening. And it’s gotta stop. And it’s gotta stop fast.”

We can disagree about some points. Is the Mexican government really sending criminals to the U.S.? On July 5, Trump said: “The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.” This claim might be false if Mexico does not intentionally send criminals to the US. At its best, this statement seems plausible if Trump meant that conditions generated in Mexico by its government lead some criminals to the U.S.

In any case, Trump proposes to secure the southern border by implementing various security measures. His most recurring proposal is to build a wall, along areas of the border lacking natural barriers.

His proposal has been widely criticized. Some people construed it as a sign of racism, xenophobia, etc. However, I can understand why many of Trump’s followers actually cheer: “Build the Wall! Build the Wall!”

First, there are the worries about murders, drugs, crimes, and terrorism. Presently, countless many unauthorized immigrants walk into the country, unchecked. In fiscal year 2014, the Border Patrol made 468,407 apprehensions along the southwest border. By comparison, the Border Patrol only made 18,244 apprehensions in all other regions.

But one point sticks in my mind. Namely this: there already exist a long series of fences and walls between Mexico and the U.S. These fences and walls span parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. As of early 2012, the Department of Homeland Security had completed 652 miles of fences and walls. Trump did not build all that. It was mandated by Congress. Walls are common along many countries’ borders, such as Spain, China, France, Greece, Pakistan, Israel, etc. The border between the U.S. and Mexico spans roughly 1,950 miles. Trump wants a wall that will be 1,000 miles long, including areas already covered.

I’m not trying to convince you about a wall. My point is just that it’s neither impossible nor ridiculous. A main reason why many border areas have fences instead of walls is just that walls are more expensive.

Trump says that everyone who didn’t enter the U.S. legally should return to their countries. “They have to go.” We might well disagree. But his view is closer to Immigration law. If you prefer amnesty then lawmakers have to create a law to that effect. Trump insists: “I want people to come in, but they have to come in legally.”

Regardless, countless many people think that Trump is racist against Mexicans. I suggest that anyone who thinks that should count how many times Trump has praised Mexicans.

Most unauthorized immigrants are good people. But still, the media wrongly blamed Mr. Trump for their own misrepresentations.


http://www.salon.com/2015/12/21/the_media_needs_to_stop_telling_this_lie_about_donald_trump_im_a_sanders_supporter_and_value_honesty/


EDIT:
Featured Comments

I wrote the article. The editors omitted the following lines at the end, noting that some of this info is fairly well known. Still, since I laboriously watched many Trump rallies online for this info, here it is as a footnote:

  For example, on July 6, Trump explained: “many fabulous people come in from Mexico and our country is better for it. But these people are here legally, and are severely hurt by those coming in illegally. I am proud to say that I know many hard working Mexicans—many of them are working for and with me…and, just like our country, my organization is better for it. [...] I have great respect for Mexico and love their people and their peoples’ great spirit.”

  He says such things again and again, to tens of thousands of people at rallies in Texas, Ohio, New Hampshire, Iowa, Oklahoma, Arizona, North Carolina, South Carolina, Nevada, Florida, California, Virginia, Tennessee, Illinois, etc. Trump says: “I love the Mexican people,” they’re “great people.” He says: “they’re incredible people,” who contribute much to the US, and that “their leaders are smarter” than US politicians. He says: “Hispanics are fantastic people.” Trump proclaims “great respect” for the Mexican people and their leaders. People don’t know that he says these things because the press does not report it.

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Yes. Salon.com  Shocked Shocked Yes. From a Sanders supporter.


3046  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Injuries as Car Drives Into Pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip on: December 21, 2015, 04:56:59 AM
Sounds like a homicidal maniac...Some retarded police there are calling it an accident.

"Everyone was running ... and as I was running, I saw a car up on the sidewalk coming to toward us," a witness told CNN affiliate KLAS. "I saw a lady, she didn't seem like she wanted to stop the car, she had both hands on her wheel."

The witness said people tried to stop the driver.

"I saw men running after her, yelling, 'stop, stop!' As she was passing, we saw people running after her. Everyone was so frantic and just running around."


Let's wait for the full name of the driver. If the full name is not released because of "an on going investigation blabla" then...


3047  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Injuries as Car Drives Into Pedestrians on Las Vegas Strip on: December 21, 2015, 04:28:46 AM
An undetermined number of people were injured Sunday night when a driver plowed into pedestrians on a crowded Las Vegas sidewalk in what police described as a "major accident."

South Las Vegas Boulevard — the famous Strip — was closed in both directions along a stretch that is home to the Bellagio and Paris Las Vegas hotels and to Planet Hollywood, where the Miss Universe pageant was just ending, Las Vegas police said.

Danita Cohen, a spokeswoman for University Medical Center, confirmed that the hospital had received several patients. She told NBC News she had no further details.

A witness, Sofie Kitterřd, said she saw 10 people being taken away in ambulances.

"What we've heard is that a car drove up on the sidewalk by Planet Hollywood and continued past Paris Hotel," Kitterřd said. "There are many ambulances on both sites."

NBC


... Or crazy drivers plowing people of a sidewalk...


3048  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: December 20, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
Most have no clue just what is and has been going on. There are those that are actually pushing to normalize not only child molestation, but bestiality...it is beyond warped and bizarre.

From 2011, the conference to "normalize" pedophilia...

Quote
While I was on a brief vacation in Wyoming, Johns Hopkins University’s Dr. Fred Berlin gave the keynote address at a Baltimore conference hosted by the latest pedophilia-acceptance group, called B4U-ACT.

This new organization differs from the North American Man/Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, in that it comprises not only pedophiles, but also those who are not in that sexual orientation and want it to be publicly acceptable.

Among the 50 people who were in attendance at this outrageous event were two from Virginia’s Liberty University, Matt Barber and Dr. Judith Reisman, who exposed it.

The Baltimore Sun, Washington Post and New York Times had no coverage of this event, which was attended by a number of admitted pedophiles – or, as this conference re-labeled them, “minor-attracted persons.”


Among “highlights” of this conference, as reported by Barber and Reisman:

Pedophiles are “unfairly stigmatized and demonized” by society.
“Anglo-Americans’ standard on age of consent is new (and ‘puritanical’). In Europe, it was always set at 10 or 12. Ages of consent beyond that are relatively new and very strange, especially for boys. They’ve always been able to have sex at any age.”

“An adult’s desire to have sex with children is ‘normative.’”

Our society should “maximize individual liberty. We have a highly moralistic society that is not consistent with liberty.”

Dr. Fred Berlin acknowledged that it was political activism, similar to that witnessed at the conference, rather than scientific considerations that successfully led to the declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder.

“The majority of pedophiles are gentle and rational.”

The diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders should “focus on the needs” of the pedophile, and should have “a minimal focus on social control,” rather than obsessing about “the need to protect children.”

Self-described “gay activist” and speaker Jacob Breslow said that children can properly be “the object of our attention.” He further objectified children, suggesting that pedophiles needn’t gain consent from a child to have sex with “it” any more than we need consent from a shoe to wear it. He then used graphic, slang language to favorably describe the act of climaxing (ejaculating) “on or with” a child. No one in attendance objected to this explicit depiction of child sexual assault.

http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/339113/
 
And from 2013 at Yale...
Quote
Yale hosted its annual sex conference in which bestiality was apparently labeled merely one form of “sexual diversity.”

Survey responses revealed that nine percent of attendees had been paid for sex, 3 percent had engaged in bestiality, and 52 percent had participated in “consensual pain” during sex, according to an article published in the Yale Daily News on Event director Giuliana Berry ’14 told Campus Reform in an interview on Monday that the workshop was brought to campus to teach students not to automatically judge people who may have engaged in these sorts of activities, but rather to respond with “understanding” and “compassion.” ”People do engage in some of these activities that we believe only for example perverts engage in,” she said. “What the goal is is to increase compassion for people who may engage in activities that are not what you would personally consider normal.” McDevitt referred to the range of activities discussed in the workshop as “sexual diversity.”

Over the years, I have documented several similar efforts to normalize bestiality. For example: Peter Singer has notoriously claimed that bestiality is okay, essentially just two animals rubbing intimate body parts. A review in the New York Times Book Review applauded the graphic depiction of chimp/woman sex; The Huffington Post’s resident bioethicist, Jacob Appel, similarly sought to debunk opposition to bestiality by comparing zoophilia to playing Frisbee with a dog;



http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/342202/normalizing-bestiality-yale-wesley-j-smith





That was pretty clear. For them (lots them humans with college degrees or teachers) a child is no more than an object, like a shoe. Objects can't have rights, nor children...

How to rationalize this?

3049  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Billionaire Prince Demands Donald Trump Exit 2016 Race on: December 20, 2015, 07:47:02 PM
guys in general I hate Saudi Arabia , they are feeding the war in my country by the name of democracy while they don't have democracy
but honestly Alwaleed bin Talal is a great person unlike other princes , he is really in the good side and he is well known in helping others
in general if all the princes were like Alwaleed bin Talal you wouldn't see SA the way it's now
I also wonder why this Alwaleed bin Talal is interfering in other countries election. Its their own matter. What they are gaining or losing. Its their issues. If he gets some problems then its all right. At present saudia Arabia is investing a lot of money there. So might be they wants a kind of power control in their friends hand.


I do not know why people do not get that. It is so obvious. Unlike Putin saying something like "Hey! Trump seems pretty smart BUT it is the American voters who should decide", this $27B prince is saying "Do not vote for Trump!"

... Or what? Is he gonna force us to eat camel meat or something?

 
3050  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: December 20, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
Well then we should start incarcerating people for thinking about murder? Thinking about something it's not a crime. I recommend a documentary about that cop who had fantasies about killing and raping women. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4503900/

Anyway, like I said, a terrorist doesn't struggle with the fact, he's convinced what he's doing it's right for whatever crazy reason. But pedophiles (not all of course sadly) as many studies say are deeply conflicted about it and many of them never act on it, they even end up killing themselves. They are not "crazy" or "evil" in medical sense, that's why it's hard to find counterpoints in this day where a woman can turn gender but not sexual preference...

Either way, if thinking about it is a crime, then we should conduct studies before it happens and throw them in jail. But with the same rule we should then incarcerate all who harbor all evil thoughts.


I agree Self Euthanasia should not be crime either...


3051  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: December 20, 2015, 05:10:13 PM



Trump: Hillary Is a Liar — ‘She Lies Like Crazy About Everything’


Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” while responding to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton saying in the debate last night that he is “becoming ISIS’s best recruiter,” Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump declared that to be “just another Hillary lie.”

Trump said, “Nobody has been able to back that up. It’s nonsense. Just another Hillary lie. She lies like crazy about everything. Whether it’s trips where she was being gunned down in a helicopter or an airplane, she’s a liar and everybody knows that. But she just made this up in thin air.”

He continued, “I think my words represent toughness and strength. Hillary’s not strength. Hillary’s weak, frankly, she’s got no stamina, she’s got nothing….she couldn’t even get back on the stage. Nobody even knows what happened to her. It’s like she went home and went to sleep….She couldn’t get back on the stage last night I’ll tell you why. Because we need a president with great strength and stamina and Hillary doesn’t have that. We can not have another bad president like we have right now. We need a president with tremendous intelligence, smarts, cunning, strength, and stamina.”

He added, “She may have traveled a lot but she didn’t do the job because the entire world blew up around her. So she wasted a lot of time and energy and money and frankly she wasted a lot of lives because her policies were disaster for the world. The Middle East has blown up around her. Her decisions were horrible. and hundreds of thousands of people have been killed because of her faulty decisions.”


http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/20/trump-hillary-is-a-liar-she-lies-like-crazy-about-everything/


3052  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 20, 2015, 05:00:43 PM
Seems legit Trump is going to win the election Roll Eyes
I was only a matter of time that said there is always a chance for Hillary
But a seal of approval from Putin puts trump as a ok in my records Smiley
Obama had Obama Girl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiMa2Fe-ZQ


Who does Hillary have?




Her faithful friend



3053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: December 20, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
This op just made me sick and want to throw up. I cant believe this shit. WOW!

Let me remind you that feeling sick and wanting to throw up is the natural reaction. Trying to explain away that it is ok for pedos to have the rights to think about abusing children, as long as they do not act on it, is not the natural reaction.

It is that simple. Black. White. Not grey.


3054  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 20, 2015, 04:52:39 AM
In trump we trust....

http://webm.host/18ea6/

That guy is a Joke, and we know it. He doesn't deserve to be a topic on this forum.




Of course he does. So does sanders and harpy clinton




3055  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: December 19, 2015, 02:53:46 PM
Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include bestiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.

Having a conversation about the rights of adults taking away the rights of children is insane. And yet this will be the next battle. Some taboos are almost universal. Almost I said because in some countries or religion, 7 is an appropriate age...  Embarrassed

PETA should be against bestiality, in theory.

Why would gays to be associated with those people? They believe people are born gay. But do they believe some are born to be rapped too?


3056  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 19, 2015, 02:11:42 PM
Majority of Americans=> 55% – Support Trump’s Muslim Ban, 72% of Republicans, 45% of Democrats

Interesting news from the United States. To me, it seems like the Americans had enough of political correctness and white guilt, and they are now trying to protect themselves and their future generations. That is promising news, and measures such as this one will mean that the American culture will remain strong for the next 100 years.  


I hope so. The power that be is making sure that does not happen though:

http://www.infowars.com/cisa-is-now-the-law-how-congress-quietly-passed-the-second-patriot-act/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/18/democrat-leaders-dance-gloat-declare-speaker-paul-ryan-gave-away-store/


3057  Other / Politics & Society / Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: December 19, 2015, 02:05:17 PM



Increasingly, the modern perversion of “rights” leads to little but wrongs. And one of the best current examples is the movement to legitimize pedophilia. InfoWars reported on the subject just recently, writing:

Leftist media is now promoting “pedophile rights” as the next “social justice” movement….

Numerous political commentators predicted that pedophiles would try to hijack the June 26 Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriages to argue that they too are “suffering” discrimination over their “normal” sexual orientation.

“Using the same tactics used by ‘gay’ rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals [sic],” wrote Jack Minor for the Northern Colorado Gazette.

In reality, though, the pedophilia-acceptance movement greatly predates the unconstitutional Obergefell marriage ruling. As I wrote in the 2013 piece “The Slippery Slope to Pedophilia”:

On January 14 of this year, the Los Angeles Times ran an article entitled, “Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia: Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.” (Emphasis in original.) The piece starts out with a story about one Paul Christiano, who, as a young child, was fascinated by girls and loved “how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics,” wrote the paper. We’re then told that while Christiano grew up, his sexual tastes didn’t: He remained tormented by an attraction to pre-pubescent girls. Christiano is the “sympathetic character,” mind you, the hapless soul meant to put a human face on pedophilia. But now consider what he said about unsuccessful court-ordered therapy he was forced to undergo after being caught with child pornography in 1999. As the Times reported, “‘These people felt they could snuff out the desire, or shame me into denying it existed,’ he said. ‘But it’s as intrinsic as the next person’s heterosexuality.’”

“As intrinsic as the next person’s heterosexuality… ” Where have we heard that before?

The paper then did something else that should sound familiar. Giving Christiano’s claim the imprimatur of science, it wrote, “In the laboratory, researchers are coming to the same conclusion.” Many experts now view pedophilia as “a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality…, a deep-rooted predisposition … that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.... Scientists at the Toronto center [Center for Mental Health and Addiction in Toronto] have uncovered a series of associations that suggest pedophilia has biological roots.”

The problem? If we lived in a eugenicist time (e.g., the early 20th-century), the above would be used as further justification for selective breeding. Today, mainly due to the effort to legitimize homosexuality, the notion that “it’s okay if I was born that way” has taken hold. Often articulated as “God doesn’t make mistakes,” it’s rhetorically very effective. Of course, whether an atheist who considers the world naturally flawed or a theist believing it supernaturally fallen, cleft lip, Spina bifida, Down syndrome, club foot, Tay-Sachs disease, and other abnormalities make clear that God’s perfection isn’t enjoyed by man. And is it logical to consider the brain the one organ immune from this imperfection? Note also that the same psychologists telling us homosexuality is innate also say that psychopaths are born and not made. Now, if some people were born with homicidal instincts, would it be alright for them to commit murder?

A silly question? No more so than asking “If some people are born with homosexual feelings, is it alright for them to engage in homosexual behavior?” It may or may not be alright, but this has nothing whatsoever to do with inborn status. For genetics does not determine “morality.” Saying otherwise is to eliminate morality and replace it with biological determinism, which reduces man to animal.

Also realize that discriminating among inborn-urge driven behaviors — saying some are “right” and some “wrong” — means judging them with a yardstick (be it God’s law, social codes, etc.); this means that the yardstick is being placed above biology, thus contravening the biological-determinism argument.

The problem, however, is that the above reasoning (the nerd) has trouble competing in a popularity contest with the popular kids: sound-bite slogans and emotional appeals. As to this, just as recent decades have seen a “conversion of the average American’s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of [homosexual] propaganda fed to the nation via the media” — as prescribed in the homosexual-activist book After the Ball — so has entertainment already been placed in the service of pedophilia.

Just consider the film For a Lost Soldier (1993), which quite vividly and sympathetically relates the true story of a WWII-era sexual relationship between a Canadian serviceman and a 13-year-old European boy. The New York Times' review of the movie was entitled “Treating a Delicate Story of a Soldier and a Boy Tenderly” and actually stated that the work “takes up … a romantic relationship between a grown-up and a child, and invests it with an aching tenderness.” Then there was 2001’s LIE, which featured a pederast named Big John. About it the Times wrote, compared “with Howie’s [the 15-year-old main character’s] well-meaning but clueless guidance counselor, Big John seems like a benign, common-sensical uncle.”

Of course, such films and their reviews are still rare, but the relativism justifying them — and a whole lot more — is anything but. Note that a Barna Group research study found that in 2002 already only six percent of teens (now all adults who can vote) believed in moral absolutes. And is it any surprise? We now live in a time when some of the most popular refrains are “Who is to judge?” “Everything is a matter of perspective,” “That’s your truth; someone else’s may be different,” and “If it feels good, do it.”

It may be hard to believe that pedophilia is following the well-worn path of homosexuality. But know that not only is there great historical precedent for the sexualization of minors — pederasty was widely accepted in ancient Athens and Sparta — we already see tolerance for pedophilia among our “elites.” Consider the following:

• Obama’s military brass has ordered American soldiers in Afghanistan to ignore the sexual abuse of young boys by Afghan “allies” — even on U.S. military bases — partially in deference to “cultural sensitivity.”

• The media have largely ignored child sex abuse in government schools, despite a 2004 government-sponsored study indicating that it is 100 times the magnitude of the Catholic Church sex scandal.

• Hollywood pedophiles are apparently “everywhere, like vultures,” as former child actor Cory Feldman put it, but are protected by power and privilege.

• Likewise, the powers-that-be have long protected pedophiles within the British government.

• Also in the U.K., politically correct authorities have ignored Muslim child sex-trafficking rings for fear of being called “racist.”

Of course, there’s a difference between the “elites” and the man of the street. But realize that the homosexuality agenda’s embrace also began among the former, finding a home in academia and then being mainstreamed by media and entertainment. Also realize that the “Who’s to judge?” mantra may be convenient when justifying one’s favored sins. But if the things we like are all relative, the things we dislike are relative, too. As novelist Walter Scott might agree, “What a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive” — ourselves with fashionable philoso-babble.


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What about the rights of the children? Not victims anymore? Tragic. Disgusting.


3058  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 19, 2015, 01:37:59 PM



Majority of Americans=> 55% – Support Trump’s Muslim Ban, 72% of Republicans, 45% of Democrats


Last week Donald Trump lit up the political world when he proposed a temporary ban on Muslim immigrants to the United States following the San Bernardino terrorist attacks.
trump rally

The Obama White House said it “disqualifies him” from being president.

The latest FOX News poll shows a majority of Americans support his ban.
FOX News reported:

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump caused a stir last week when he called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States until the government can “figure out what is going on.”

    How do voters feel about Trump’s proposal? Well, that depends.

    A new Fox News poll finds 50 percent of voters favor Trump’s ban, while 46 percent are opposed.

    However, when Trump’s name is removed from the question, support for the plan goes up five points and opposition goes down six: 55 percent favor the unnamed proposal, while 40 percent oppose it.

    So while voters favor the “Trump” ban by a 4-point margin — that increases to 15 points when the same ban is not associated with Trump.

    There are stunning shifts in the responses among Democrats: 45 percent favor banning Muslims if Trump’s name is not mentioned, yet when the plan is identified as Trump’s, support drops to 25 percent.

    Among Republicans, views hold steady: 71 percent favor it when attributed to Trump vs. 72 percent for the generic proposal.

    Trump’s proposal was in response to the mass shooting that killed 14 people and injured 21 others in San Bernardino, California. The FBI says the attack was carried out by a Muslim couple who supported the Islamic State. The wife had moved to the United States from Pakistan after passing multiple background checks by U.S. immigration officials.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/majority-of-americans-55-support-trumps-muslim-ban-72-of-republicans-45-of-democrats/


3059  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: December 19, 2015, 01:30:55 PM



Clinton goes for the jugular after data breach

The front-runner prepped for a policy discussion, but after the data breach, she’s ready for a different kind of debate.



In a shift of strategy hours before the third Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton’s campaign went for Bernie Sanders’ jugular, accusing his team of stealing valuable campaign data, misrepresenting what happened and inflicting “damage here that cannot be undone.”

The offensive came after the Sanders camp admitted its staffers reviewed, searched and saved data from Clinton’s voter file made accessible briefly Wednesday because of a data breach -- and it represented a complete shift of tone in the Democratic race where the hits have remained impersonal and focused on the issues.


“This was not an inadvertent glimpse into our data,” campaign manager Robby Mook charged on a conference call with reporters Friday night. “The staffers did not make a mistake -- they made 25 intentional searches of our data.” He said the breach struck at the heart of the campaign’s data “that took millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours to build. The voter file...is the fundamental basis of our strategy.”

And Clinton’s team was angry that Sanders tried to fundraise off the incident by acting like he was a victim of the Democratic National Committee. “Stop politicizing and work to ensure that what took place is remedied,” Mook said, even dropping that Sanders campaign may have broken the law.

The offensive play didn’t end there.

Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon followed with more personal attacks, accusing Sanders’ team of undertaking a “deliberate effort to muddy the waters as to what is going on here” and said their top campaign officials were leaving “wiggle room in their answers” as to whether they have retained any data that was accessed during the 40-minute breach.

The attacks from Clinton’s top campaign officials represented a rare moment of punching down against a candidate who is trailing them in national polls by more than 20 points, and foreshadowed an about-face in her debate strategy.

Until Friday, Clinton aimed to push Sanders aside by diminishing him as one-note candidate incapable of handling the demands of a crisis-a-day presidency. Clinton insiders had pointed with alarm to a recent campaign trip to Baltimore, where a Sanders spokeswoman warned reporters “don’t ask about ISIS today.”

“Compared to the other candidates, her bandwidth on the issues is extraordinary,” said Terry Shumaker, a loyal Clinton ally who chaired Bill Clinton’s two presidential campaigns in New Hampshire. “She’s done 18 town halls in New Hampshire and I think I’ve been to all of them. I have not seen a question yet that she hasn’t been able to master.”

The proposals Clinton highlighted in the walk-up to the debate had no binding theme other than showing off her ability to handle multiple issues simultaneously.

On Monday, she announced a plan to cut fees for immigrants seeking citizenship at a national immigration conference in Brooklyn. In Minneapolis Tuesday, the former secretary of state gave a foreign policy address building out her three-part plan to defeat ISIL. Less than 24 hours later, Clinton arrived in Omaha to campaign with billionaire Warren Buffett and talk tax reform, backing the Buffett Rule that would make individuals earning over $1 million pay 30 percent of their income in federal taxes.

“That’s the sort of thing that someone should be able to count on from the president, and that’s the sort of thing she can do,” campaign spokeswoman Christina Reynolds said, referring to Clinton’s ease in toggling between national and international issues. She declined to comment on Sanders.

Sanders’ campaign dismissed Clinton’s policy tour leading up to the Manchester debate as the moves of a candidate lacking an overarching message. “Is this the attempt to be spontaneous this week?” said Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, scoffing at the implication that Sanders is a one-dimensional candidate.

“He’s answered questions on ISIS over and over and over again, and frankly has a better answer than some other people do,” Briggs said. “He’s been out there talking about the Middle East, regime change, terrorism, and judgment in foreign policy. Is her vote for the Iraq War the foreign policy they want to talk about?” Sanders has repeatedly charged that Clinton’s 2002 vote in favor of the invasion of Iraq led to the rise of ISIL and Al Qaeda in the region.

But when his spokeswoman warned reporters “don’t ask about ISIS today” as Sanders toured the neighborhood where Freddie Gray was killed in police custody, Clinton’s allies pounced.

Campaign surrogate Jennifer Cunningham, a partner at the consulting firm SKDKnickerbocker who sits on Clinton’s New York leadership council, posted a Washington Post article about Sanders’ “one-dimensional campaign” on Twitter, and wrote, “Great guy. Wrong office. Wrong time.”

Until the data breach ramped up tension, Cunningham’s comment was a rare direct shot at Sanders by a Clinton ally. Indeed, her campaign sees no upside in overtly targeting a liberal popular with the party’s base.

But the ghosts of 2008 also have them on high alert about being taken by surprise by Sanders’ near-native son status in New Hampshire, where he is currently leading by double digits in the polls, and his war chest of $26.2 million. In Iowa, Sanders remains within striking distance -- Clinton leads by just 9 points.


“The goal for her is to continue to do what she’s done: be strong on foreign policy, be strong on domestic policy and don’t let them land any punches,” said South Carolina Democratic Party chair Jaime Harrison, whose state will host the next debate in January. “It is up to Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley to land something. She can be above the fray, in a defensive posture, and use some of her time to beat up on the Republicans.”

With the energy of the race on the Republican side, however, Democrats have low expectations about the enthusiasm level for a Donald Trump-less debate showdown on the Saturday night before Christmas -- even with the drama of a major data breach unfolding as the candidates and their staffers traveled to Manchester.

“There’s a Democratic debate on Saturday?” political strategist and longtime Clinton ally James Carville half-joked. “You’ve got people at Trump rallies saying, ‘light someone on fire.’ It’s hard to get attention. There’s so much over there that’s so compelling.”


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/clintons-offense-will-be-personal-216962


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That is why he has to be taken down.

3060  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: December 19, 2015, 12:40:40 AM



Bernie Sanders campaign manager blasts DNC for holding campaign 'hostage'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRB4rii3pRw


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