... Trolling ...
So instead of focusing on my contribution and examples provided, you turn to Trolling instead? And you wonder why you had to start this thread.
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...Trolling...
First you distrust that user, then you remove your distrust. What part of my question did you not understand? ...
What would you prefer?
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Thanks for stopping by with your explanation. I'm not going to tag your account or anything Well... that's not entirely true: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblobf67bb032e36e379d.jpeg&t=663&c=Xb-PBtCKcQOJ9w) If I'm wrong here, I'm open to other interpretations.
True, but ...
Why the sudden back peddling from both of you (and suchmoon's distrust, then indifference?)
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Thanks for letting us know you're not coming back and will be locking this thread. It'll stop at least one way scammers have to fleece unsuspecting users here on the forum.
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When all else fails, turn to the tried and true methodologies: Date Registered: 2013-07-26, 23:57:08 EFS
Date Registered: 2014-01-01, 07:44:21 funchiestz
Date Registered: 2015-02-06, 18:34:52 mhanbostanci
Date Registered: 2015-03-21, 23:20:40 Kalemder
Date Registered: 2017-03-02, 03:08:41 bobita
Date Registered: 2017-04-10, 12:03:24 Vispilio
Date Registered: 2017-05-16, 09:30:37 wolwoo
Date Registered: 2017-06-02, 16:42:41 Blacknavy Date Registered: 2017-06-08, 20:46:14 RaltcoinsB
Date Registered: 2017-07-18, 04:06:42 PHI1618
Date Registered: 2017-08-13, 01:47:29 lossnet
Date Registered: 2017-10-04, 07:40:44 gumusi
Date Registered: 2017-10-28, 08:00:26 Xday123
Date Registered: 2017-11-19, 21:03:51 koincik Date Registered: 2017-11-23, 04:10:37 gospodin
Date Registered: 2018-01-25, 16:28:05 Hovarda
Date Registered: 2018-02-15, 06:33:11 Bthd
Date Registered: 2019-02-14, 05:34:20 mandown
Date Registered: 2019-10-15, 20:22:35 BountyDetective
Date Registered: 2019-11-16, 21:23:57 Tom Bombadil
Date Registered: 2020-05-07, 05:28:16 kriminall Last Active: 2020-05-12, 18:43:21 Xday123
Date Registered: 2020-10-17, 00:41:31 osmanucal Date Registered: 2020-10-17, 00:50:37 cryptoinfal
What are the odds of those who are on their DT trust list for the most part having been created roughly one month apart in early 2017 through 2018 (and a couple of examples in 2015/2019 as well?) What are the odds of two users being created less than ten minutes apart then going on to trust the same user?
Week 98 - https://loyce.club/trust/2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h/1024933.html![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblob7c0aff0da798903e.jpeg&t=663&c=xfHoeAlS6NX_kw) Week 98 - https://loyce.club/trust/2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h/2695747.html![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblobed0e97e7b1d46ff9.jpeg&t=663&c=bsiw3t5SaeWffg) Week 98 - https://loyce.club/trust/2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h/2866246.html![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblob5bffe9fe8550eff4.jpeg&t=663&c=NnUYHag4gs62Pw) Week 98 - https://loyce.club/trust/2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h/2866248.html![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblob25eeaf7dfcd407b2.jpeg&t=663&c=tZ7IXiB03Kwymg)
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According to your link you only need to place the message and signature to verify it's signed (but that doesn't guarantee it's the correct wallet unless you do some digging deeper)
No, the link is not saying that I only have to input the Signature and the Message. First, you have to go https://slowli.github.io/bech32-buffer/ where you need to decode bc1 address to binary data (in hex), then you have to go https://bitcoinvalued.com/tools.php where you convert the binary data to bitcoin address which is started with 1. Then copy the bitcoin address and try to verify it in brain wallet or other sites which has these services. [im g width=800 height=270]https://i.postimg.cc/prv7KwKR/Screenshot-9.png[/img] I'm just expanding on what I said earlier, the bold is only meant to represent the earlier words and italics the newer words, it is not intended to represent shouting or emphasis. According to you link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198585.0 in post number six it says you don't need to put the wallet address in, you only need to place the message and signature to verify it's signed (but that doesn't guarantee it's the correct wallet unless you do some digging deeper).Actually, there's a shortcut to this! Just get your original message, Then remove the address from the message ( copy this): -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm Lulucrypto on Bitcointalk. And normally, I'm Luluwebmaster. I sign this message at 9 Aug 2019. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- IAIAMSyjMV62EttLm3HltwmQK0HEchc80OfXKJGPEo1pIvq/st/kgWvLmREfByk3/TSbdrWLmfzoExivGSxzTOo= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- And paste to https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verifyIt'll automatically recognize the legacy address used for that signed message. Because either way, the message was verified using the address: 1NtMnD5BQrRvVeHDk4HXaGvXiVkUuTjhXf, not bc1q7qgn8zw75n26hd60a8ay42482mukdjrdv3cyp7. But both can be derived from the same prv key, so there wont be a serious problem with future verification. The only difference is: those extra steps are some kind of proof that the result legacy address was based from your SegWit address. I did actually read your link. (Apologies to OgNasty for this minor disruption to your servie)
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jackg only trusts eight users, so they like Helana aren't in contention for DT1 at this point.
I take it you haven't reached out to either, if you had you would have mentioned it already.
Jet Cash is DT1 member, so his inclusion make Helana DT2 member. Helana hasn't posted since 2018-11-10, 07:13:37 (so it's getting a little off topic) and has given no trust feedback (ever) An user who never have sent feedback is unlikely to be seen in DT2 list. If this thread wouldn't exist, I would never share it anywhere, used only another of this example. I trust both users jackg and Jet Cash.
You might "trust" both, however, you aren't on either's list of users trusted by them: https://loyce.club/trust/2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h/698159.html or https://loyce.club/trust/2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h/543626.html
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But who adds someone to their trust list in expectation of either of these?
There's only one of two reciprocal trusts and we don't know that it wasn't Helana that reciprocated trust of the other two first... I think what I was getting at is that these users' situation hasn't changed in over 100 weeks - if both were going to trust/betrusted, it would have happened by now.
I wouldn’t say Jet Cash and jackg are abusing the system. In fact, they are not much active in the feedback system but this inclusion is clearly misuse or wrong use.
I trust jackg and have no reason to distrust Jet Cash - abuse of the system? I doubt it. They might have both encountered that user early on and haven't given any thought to that user since. jackg only trusts eight users, so they like Helana aren't in contention for DT1 at this point. I take it you haven't reached out to either, if you had you would have mentioned it already.
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...so all we can do is play whack-a-mole with these new shitheads once they pop up.
You did ... in week 70 only to remove that distrust in week 99.
RaltcoinsB first created their DT trust list in week 69 then the following week, week 70 the two UID's you mention reciprocate DT trust-for-trust.
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The two users you mention haven't changed their trust in over 101 weeks; they trusted Helana prior to week one and their trusts are unchanged now in week 101.
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Address: bc1qwpspuz5qwxnl8rxrgxrpftnl8jvgr62au8luwe Message: I’m onindo and I can sign a message. Signature: H+DZ9jSdFu4XufVCevL/bnLECE7L+HXjeEWz+B4FHaL9d07e/Q5xrv8ay8yJfB1NJ3VIyq5qP7b4oA3woY+ajZE=
You need to check again as its showing wrong signature. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Maybe the last dot of the Message will be removed. and where you tried to verify the message? In a wallet like Electrum? or in online sign message verifier sites? I am asking this because the online verifier site basically does not verify the address start with bc1 But you can follow this post to verify SegWit address in brainwallet How to verify SegWit signature with Brainwallet ?I have tried this way and got the result is verified if I remove the DOT in the message texts. I used https://tools.bitcoin.com/verify-message/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblob798a74035b3e5b41.png&t=663&c=rqDp-ltB9QNvlg) According to your link you only need to place the message and signature to verify it's signed (but that doesn't guarentee it's the correct wallet unless you do some digging deeper) https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblobc13b748651105532.jpeg&t=663&c=ddpDM_HEmrgPfQ)
Address: bc1qkqacdzuqmy2rfcve4pxkpne3gefujduzkns0j8 Message: I’m tamim60, it's 12/20/2020 and I can sign a message. Signature: H0F84m1yxGp89ZGWjODqtZrJ5uoEYxiyaXRy1ITyjYJXNrLoyUOlAnmTGpRdJ6Ag982Hr20W0o37ysj r7ifzIOQ=
https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblob36d15d12dc7b9356.jpeg&t=663&c=Y06xa5yJLHwu1g)
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If anyone wanted to help point out posted signatures like this that can't be verified, I would be appreciative.
Address: 1DqJpUGi434Sv6YtYeMRBVDr45JkTX55uh Message: I am lichukhan. it is 12/20/2020 and i can sign a message. Signature: IG0MEJxpHpKL6RINNgnZD9Q7lChaKSjuAM9Iyml3pRMwQhV24ikPD9M62zu+svI/7Lop1S5IgfZTyGP5I6qW5vE= There's a space at the end of your message that's included. Please try to avoid these in future. https://tools.bitcoin.com/verify-message/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblobbdf0719265ed559a.jpeg&t=663&c=8aLAEDn11IhUgQ)
Address: 1BAjcdGvr48opEZCUtg5ZtXnfVyeDj6LUa Message: I’m hatakeyudu, it's 12/20/2020 and I can sign a message. Signature: H1q2ZOgTMErsm+5OrGcM9fE/AjPAtaNCdF9/kN+kJyNbV0qo31goSrZVgQ7jaFXdAJA2gG/ugHB2aVkEf7j7VV4=
Thank you.
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You forgot to include your username. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) hossamdz has already been banned in the <12 hours since they posted. With your permission, I'd like to make a list of those who have been banned after claiming to see if there are any connections between the users? Date Registered: 2017-09-06, 08:18:15 hossamdz Trust List N N Y N SecLog Activity Y
It might also be helpful if you were to post this quote in your OP:
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I would suggest you split your funds into two or even three pieces, the first you use for day-to-day trades (work out what your daily limit is beforehand) second chunk is to make a one off purchase of crypto - it could be just BitCoin, or a spread of other coins and tokens. The third chunk of funds divide by 52, 26 or 12 and make weekly, fortnightly or monthly purchases in much the same way as the second option.
In twelve month's time you can compare which pays you dividends and which were too much bother for their own good.
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I can't help but wonder why the OP would gather up multiple posts by user morvillz7z post them in one new thread and stress out that nothing is being done to those who've been identified as alts?
Why not contact the Campaign Managers directly and send them links? Have you tried this? What was their response?
Why these two? Why now?
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Perhaps you would be better off if you were to discuss the pros and cons by comparing the forum as it is on a browser compared to what could be achieved via an app.
I personally don't see the need for an app as I can log in quite easily on my mobile device and read/reply.
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EDIT: suchmoon's response below answers none of these questions so now I'm wondering if any of these issues have even been thought of prior to announcement.
Given the disrespectful Trolling by @ibminer when I made a suggestion and posted an external link as an example (and instant DT1 distrust for making that suggestion), it's highly unlikely @suchmoon nore @ibminer are going to seek anyone's permission to use images (are they going to contact any or all of the Casino, Gambling sites or coin mixers/tumblers for permission to use what are most likely copyrighted imagery where a user is participating in a signature campaign? I doubt it). The cards look really cool and will be a good sell out as collectibles
And who is going to receive the profits from this venture? Do the users' who are featured on the card receive a complementary copy?
While I appreciate the hard work @Vod went to to create the site, and it is very useful, the current custodians are treating BPIP as though it were their personal bat and ball and want to go home sulking whenever anyone else has a valid suggestion or comment.
I wonder which user @suchmoon and @ibminer will disrespect first with vandalized cards/imagery/details? Inclusion, not exclusion.
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Also, add it to your list if it is not already included, it might help push Txids ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . It's all free but there is no guarantee if it helps or works, but for me, it seems like yes (not very sure with the third one). I've got the first two on my list: [Guide] Broadcast Your RAW Transaction (Push TX) BTC & Alts coinsand am adding the third as we speak (although I wouldn't recommend it due to the shear number of banners that pummel the brain when you visit the site & nothing appears to happen). Thanks for the heads up.
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i am not too sure what you all are on about, but we mined the 'stuck' tx and got the bounty (if that's what you all are wondering about)
Out of curiosity, where did you get the TX?
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But the mined transaction has different TXID, input and output amount than the one you've been broadcast(ing). Chances is OP gave a different signed raw txn to "neutraLTC", it also contains a 1BTC output which looks like the bounty.
Yes, I have been wondering about that - perhaps they came and grabbed the first version of the TX and tried it and it worked (especially with the much higher than usual number of transactions in mempool at the moment). The OP has been offline for two day - no doubt because they were exposed as a mult-alt scammer, so I doubt anyone will get any kind of thanks.
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