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3061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 25, 2016, 01:26:57 PM
There's is no a risk-free investment because when you invest you risk 100% of you money or whatever you invest, but
I think investing in gambling is so 1000% risk, you don't know when it will you investment earn.
unless you are ready to accept that you lose some or worst whole of your investment in gambling dude..


Yeah in every investment, they sure risk everything on it to get some profit but investment on gambling, i dont think that it is that bad though because in the end house will always win so it is just matter of time until you get back everything and it is more secure than if you aim for ponzi and other investment though. This will be the same as gambling, just the opposite of it because we are playing for the house now
Although investing is boring because we are used to doing some action but what matters now is the money, investing is the one and only option to earn money in gambling as most gamblers are loser and those who invested in the house are enjoying the profit in the end.

If you invest regularly in online casino that accepts investors, then you are up for a good house edge advantage. However, the advantage is not 100% guarantee that you will profit all the time but the chances of making profits are more to investing at online casino compared to you are the one playing on these casino sites.
3062  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 25, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?
No Bro Gambling Is Always Risky But You Can Reduce the Risk Of Losing Money By Gamble In Sports Betting....
Or You Can Invest In a Casino Bankroll For Profit And With Low Risk.....
If you will let me choose, I would always choose investing in casino bankroll than in sports betting, both have risk but I am really in need of money I would take investing all day as it has lesser risk than gambling itself.

I also agree with you that investing in the casino is much better than to play sports bet. Because most of the casino's do always all to earn its profit and you can also benefit from it by getting  your shares.

I think it's not a good thing to do. For all gambling or all investment made there must be some things that can harm, however I see that Investment in the Casino is doing the same thing with sports betting. The difference is the result obtained. So this is something that is the same

Nope, if there would be no difference at all then one of them should may not exist. Investing in the casino does not require some analytics nor luck. All you have to do is to invest in the right place.

Indeed it is very profitable investment and also give something more easily from other things like gambling, trading, etc. But indeed you are right, that investment must be made in the right place, if not then the loss we are going to get. So indeed investing and gambling also has its own risks, depending on us to do so

Yes sir, but most of the gamblers would rather choose to play sports betting because they may enjoy it. But if your mind set would be in the profit that you should earn then for me investing is much better. you are right risk would always be there so you should decide well.

If my plan is to hit some goal earnings, then I should go to investing or trading. However, you need to have big bankroll in order to earn big in trading in order for you to see significant profits that you can truly appreciate. In gambling, there are techniques that you can earn - the way played by professional gamblers. The risk though is more in gambling than in trading.
3063  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 25, 2016, 01:20:28 PM
hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble
 
best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers

I don't like investing because of slow profit. And even if risk of money loss in gambling is larger, i still like gambling more because profit is much faster
there's also some investment that you can gain a lot but logically betting is really good profits when you win odd is very big mate.

Yeah, indeed gambling and investing is very profitable and basically will not give something losses with a note that we know how. Investment is very profitable when we know or are in the right place. Gambling will give you an advantage when we can control ourselves and not greedy

Just some of my observation, when you do gambling and are good at your strategies and at the same time lucky, you are up to a very high profit. Compared to trading where in order for you to earn big, you need to have big bankroll and some rise to the moon currency that you invest in.
3064  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 25, 2016, 01:18:25 PM
having steady income from bitcoin mining with 2 gpu rig ( 10x Rx 480) is my plan before iam focus at bitcoin, i hope i can realize it in this year, so i can leaving my realjob and go full time on bitcoin in next year.

Mining is good if you can afford the investment and electricity cost, but most of people cannot afford it so they try their luck in trading and if you are good in it then you can afford to quit your job.

i can ROI ( Reach Of Investment) in 9month (after paying electric cost), i think it's a good investment, i know the bitcoin and altcoin price is unstable, but if we can mining and trading at same time we can get more profit .
Correct. and mining need some hard work at starting. to fix up things and setting them. once you set everything and your mining get start you do not to do lots of work. that time you can give time to other activities you can do trading, you can do exchange and you can earn money in different ways..
but the thing is you need to get all mining equipment.

If you intended to make a serious mining or making it like a real business, you are also working - maybe more hours than you normally should in working on your day job. You have to be hands on so that when there are some troubles with your mining machines, you are there to fix it up the soonest possible - in mining, time is money.
3065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 25, 2016, 01:14:37 PM
Gambling is not wrong if you know how to control yourself and you dont harm other people (like borrow money from your friends, or because you gamble your family dont have anything to eat) gambling is supposed to be a game for entertainment, but people tend to fall down into the gambling addiction, that is the point where gambling become wrong
True gambling wrong if done excessively, which can cause addiction that can affect the life. If the self we can control and limit the bets that have no effect on our lives was not a problem. Because gambling is just a game and for entertainment.

Anything exaggeration are indeed provide the impact is very bad for us, so also with gambling, if we do it with excessive then we are going to get addicted and certainly we will experienced major losses if get addicted. Limit yourself when doing gambling and do not let you lose control. Gambling is not wrong, but wrong is the one who lost control while doing gambling

I got your point and Cuhu-hua is right stressing out that too much of everything in life is bad. Everything shall not be excessive and should be in moderation. No matter how good you are in gambling, you are not guaranteed to win all the time especially if you play for a longer period of time already - take time to breath and relax.. go outside and have some outdoor activities- not all gambling.
3066  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 24, 2016, 05:38:12 AM
If I have much money,I still played gambling,but not looking for profit .I will play with lowest stake.
The activity like chat with others,or play chat game is more fun I think


Well good thing that you are going to do that and you are not going to goal for the profit because if you are already rich and you are still not contented to your riches for sure it can cause you the worst thing to happen. Because greediness is going to lead you to fall as many stories I have known for many years and it is really happening.

Greed is what keeps people to gamble more in life even if they have everything that they need. It is not bad to push to our limits but it is already bad when you are still wanting more money even if you have so much already. With this, nature will take its place and everything you have will be gone with the wind.
3067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How about this for a winning run ($7600 made this evening) on: August 24, 2016, 05:34:07 AM
This guy have an amazing run so far, I will be waiting for his bet for the day and I am willing to tail for the money. I believe that Allah whispered you something that will also help other people become rich, thanks for not being greedy and sharing is caring.

I can only say that OP is sharing this out of goodwill and no string attach. The OP also wanted that everyone will be blessed with winnings that the OP is enjoying already. I am checking the game because I am not really into it but it is worth a second look now.
3068  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: August 24, 2016, 05:30:23 AM
My purpose, playing gambling just for fun, so I'm never sad when I lost. Winning and losing common thing for me, but when it won I would have felt a little happier


Yes that is going to be a good attitude if you are going to make gambling as source of fun. Because if you are going to treat it as a source of profit.

You are going to get disappointed whenever you are going to lose, but if you are just going to get some fun at it then you are going to have fun even you are losing.

That is right, if we are not going to get serious to gambling like the pro gamblers, then we should look at gambling only for fun and never go overboard with the amount you can't afford to lose because fo sure it won't get fun at all.

Happy gambling everyone! Smiley
3069  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 24, 2016, 05:20:34 AM
because Im stupid, back to gambling after lose is stupid action, just wasting my money, my time and my energy. now i stop gambling and focus to other real project
You are not stupid, and I think you are a greedy person. So you lost also you came back and played gambling. Your reason to return must be either to make a profit or to earn back your loss in gambling. Because of this two reasons, you came back. But finally took decision, stopped gambling so how's your life now?


Don't say to yourself that you are a stupid you just really can't help yourself at first to come back again and again with gambling. And it is one of the hardest enemy to fight for, the addiction of gambling. But good to know now that you are now in good path and you are now more focus to something that is for real.

some people need to stop gambling, because they are not exactly in control of their habits. it is different for each person, some are getting too excited and emotional when it comes to gambling so they lose control over their funds and overdo it so they end up losing more every day.

the key term here is overdo. In life, everything that is in excess is bad and in terms of gambling, we have to play in moderation and bet only to the amount that you can afford to lose. You can play everyday as long as you are comfortable to the amount you are betting and is ready to face the chances that it may all lose in any given time.
3070  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 24, 2016, 05:16:10 AM
i found my self broke because gambling
i found my life in a mess because gambling

but because gambling too suddenly rich, suddenly be a billionaire
because gambling too you know what it is the real have fun

how about you?

is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life?

You should never get to a point where gambling can 'wreck your life'. Seriously my friend gambling is supposed to be fun, we all have the highs & lows of winning and losing but please never gamble with sums of money that can 'wreck your life'.
It's supposed to be fun, the main & only rule of gambling is to only bet with amounts you can afford to lose, please remember that. It is not worth getting into financial difficulties. Good luck.
Yes, that's the best answer and explains everything. Gambling shouldn't be wrecking your life. Like what he said, Gambling is supposed to be for fun only. You need to think for the right side that it should be not for addicting. You should gamble for the amount you afford to lose not to gamble everything. That would definitely destroy your life dear.
We have to accept the fact that some people has a bad experience in gambling and it has ruin their life, and that is normal and fair as in the first place gambling is for fun so if you will not play it right you will experience a negative outcome like losing a huge amount of money that would affect your personal life.

our mind setting with gambling, especially when we are just new to this field, is just for fun and only bet an amount that we can afford to lose. When you get the hang of it and is comfortable already with your own strategy, you can start doing your homework - bankroll and session calculations, pre-planned bets, and the like.
3071  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 24, 2016, 02:36:32 AM
I am only currently earning a little from signature campaign and would not consider giving up my day job for what I make with bitcoin. And with bitcoin's price being volatile, it's a little hard to go consider going full time on it. It's a great form of extra income and investment and I would still continue to do this as long as my day job isn't taking up too much of my time.

Earning from signature campaign is not enough for us to make a living... Actually it would consume most of our time if it is the only source of our income... We should have an alternative or as much as possible we should have atleast a good job that pays bitcoin equal to our salary in our day job or more, if it is lesser than that, I think that won't be enough to go full time in it...  Smiley

Quitting day job to focus on a signature campaign is not a wise decision. Unless you are part of a campaign that has no maximum limits  of daily posts and the most that you post in a day payment is more than your daily job rate. However, please bear in mind also that this is going to be tough - you know, posting comments all day 'till night must be a boring thing to do, right?
3072  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: August 23, 2016, 07:55:09 AM
gambling is fun when we have got winning almost in 5 times  Grin and we have much money for that. but if its loss, is not fun again, its makes me sad and crying  Cry

Why are you crying? Smiley
Gambling are supposed to be for the strong at heart because it involves great amount of risks due to the house edge. Anyway, if we are new to gambling, we should only be playing with the amount we can afford to lose to avoid crying after the game Smiley
3073  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 23, 2016, 07:44:49 AM
Base on the question i will buy more bitcoin if that would happen but the percentage is 1% to be happen, as we can see the bitcoin is continue to be stronger digital currency and the value is continuous increasing.

Me either I am going to buy a lot of bitcoins if the price of bitcoin is going to fall any time. Because as long as there are users and consumers for sure that small price is going to increase as the demand is going to become higher. Maybe I will just going to use my savings if the price is going to reach the smallest price with that amount of $1.

That is the surest thing I'll do, I'll keep on buying bitcoins when the price is going down up to $1.. This is my way of supporting bitcoin apart from potential earning big profits when it bounces back its price again to $1,000. Is it possible that it will reach to $1k a bitcoin? Smiley
3074  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 23, 2016, 07:40:40 AM
It is sure easy to understand, and if we are a gambler we will know that base on experience, my experience as I was once addicted with gambling and even now I still have that slight addiction as not all the time I can control myself in gambling. When you are addicted, you have more time in gambling than any other things in your life.
yeah that's true, the person that is really addicted in gambling will always make time just to gamble even if he has a work or activities to do, they will leave it just because of gambling. That is so sad that there are a person that cannot control themselves.  Cry

The essence of winning some amount with gambling is making it very addicting that's why more and more people are getting attached and get addicted with gambling. The addiction is just making them hard to control and even their savings are getting wasted when they are on rage emotion because when they lose they want to get it again.

Only if the gambler could have pre-planned bets, sessions, proper bankroll management, and self-control, these instances of rage betting can be avoided easily. When we don't have a system when we gamble, we tend to bet randomly and can easily bust all of our bankroll.
3075  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 23, 2016, 07:33:35 AM
Set a limit of win and loss per day like .1btc a day then withdraw. If you win/lose .1btc come back tomorrow. But that setting of limit will only work if you really can control yourself.

This is really one of the good strategies out there - you must have a daily limit and goal and when you reach that, stop already. It is really easier said than done especially when you get your goal in just few minutes and you still have hours of free time, you tend to play again and before you knew it, you are already losing.

With this, we need to have strong discipline and self control.
3076  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 23, 2016, 07:25:07 AM
Well not exactly rich, but definitely getting something from betting certain sports like MLB, eSports (especially Dota 2 and CS:GO) and sometimes, tennis. As long as I can, I avoid luck-based games like dice and slots and just stick to what game/s I know a lot about.

I think this type of sports betting also depends on luck, although it is a strategy and knowledge greater role, let alone bet on eSports like dota2 and CS GO, it may be easier to predict than football and it's purely about knowledge.
every gambling games are need luck , and become rich with gambling is possible , but only in very few case it's happened. gambling are more popular as a fast way to become poor instead rich. as if you gamble in the long run you would never have a chance to beat the house edge.
yes it is possible to become rich, but if you have lots of money to bet. but if you do not have a lot of money and expect to become rich from gambling it will obviously be difficult to achieve. at least need a good strategy and great luck.

That is right, when you are rich and have big bankrolls, you will also have big chances of winning big by playing big. Of course, you will also lose big time when you bet big. But with high bankroll, and lots of reserved sessions, then you really have high chances of winning big.
3077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 23, 2016, 07:20:15 AM
Greediness is really hard to stop especially when you are  in the middle of the game and you are already experiencing  losing streaks  then the feeling of greed  would come out  and make  you bet even more  hoping  that you would win back your loses but   the sad thing is you even lose more. Some have strong  discipline  with there selves like yours, they  would easily realize that they are losing soo much   and with that they  decide to stop to  minimize  the loses.
yeah you have a point, but for me being greediness will come out when you win big amount and you are wanting more so that even if you win you will play again and again until what you won will eventually lose. We really need strong discipline to each of us so that we cannot lose more money especially when we don't win once.

Greediness doesnt only comes out when you are winning it does also on losing because your still hoping  for money but theres a difference between the two since  the word greed  symbolizes money therefore in greediness wanting for more money. Thats only my opinion but  still  betting more on losing situation still considered greediness for me.
That's correct, greediness will strike more when you lose as that would be the time when you began to act desperate and you will chase your loses though it is not included in the game plan, and we know when we do that the outcome is not good.

I am guilty of this once in awhile. Although I practice to be like a pro gambler, there is always days that I got so bored and just do rage betting. For all I know, I only play a certain bankroll just for fun but as time goes, I just found myself betting more than I should have. But really, this seldom happens - I am a happy person and don't easily get bored - but when I am bored, I am really bored extremely! Smiley
3078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: August 23, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
Today i went on to 0.06+ from 0.031 depo playing safe margins when



HIT ME!!and made me cry like this:-



Whats your loss story?Share here

it's never happened with me cause I love my money very much so I didn't put big amount anytime.  so, gambling didn't made me cry till now. I don't think putting big amount is a good idea cause gambling means lose. though luck sometimes helps us but I never got myself beside of luck


the should what we do. We cover ourselves from getting hook and losing in casinos. It is us that is the primary person that can help ourselves from being bankrupt through gambling. We should not let our greed blind us to the fact that casinos has the house edge over us. Many gamblers know that but never care what does it mean with them when they are playing to these casinos..
3079  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 23, 2016, 07:04:08 AM
Its differ from everyone's perspective. For me, it's not wrong for gambling because I treated gambling is a very risky investment. You place money to get more money not very different from nowadays investment, but very risky win big lose big.
I don't understand this what the wrong way is in gambling? And what is the right way in gambling? According to me, Gambling is just game. How you treat gambling is the matter. If you play this for money, then it is wrong. But if you play gambling just for fun or entertainment then it is ok. Finally playing or not it depends on you.
The reality is it depends on the outcome of our gambling every time we do it, if we win in gambling the we will say that gambling is right and when we lose we say gambling is wrong. Gamblers are just unfair as we just want to experience the winning side.

I guess whether we win or not, as long as we are very attached to gambling emotional, then there is some problem already with our gambling habits. It may or may not harm us and the people close to us if left unchecked. We should from time to time ask ourselves if we are still ok while betting and if you feel that there is something wrong already, better stop.

However, if we bet like the pro gamblers, they won't let emotions sink in while they are gambling, they just follow their pre-planned bets.
3080  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 23, 2016, 06:53:34 AM
If I have 10 btc then I will open a coffee shop with it and will also accept payment in bitcoins, that will eventually help people to get aware about bitcoins.
to me that is a good decision, through this people will get awareness about bitcoin they will also invest their money in bitcoin through this way the bitcoin users will increase and thus your fee business will also become profitable, i my self going to invest bitcoin in opening a currency exchange in our local area where i will also accept and exchange of bitcoin.
I think you pretty good idea. but the question is, is it 10 BTC enough for use as capital to set up a cafe business? I think you need the money more than $ 10k to make a shop or cafe. to exchange maybe it will have an easier capital?

There are many countries where you don't need huge capital to start a business, 10  btc would be enough to start a cafe business especially in third world countries.
Maybe the countries are you're saying is referred to development countries because the cost will so cheap, considering the another factor like electricity and other. for starting a cafe with 10 BTC is too low for me.

He have a point though 10btc in some countries are already enough to engage to a small business because  the exchange rate of  dollar to their currency would be high which it makes a good decent amount to start up but in those   countries that has high standards of living  for sure 10btc is isnt enough.

this is a rookie mistake people make because of the rate of exchange. it is indeed so high in some countries but the value in exchange for goods is the same.

in other words if 1 dollar is worth 5000 of some currency, you can buy the same things with 5000 that you could with 1 dollar. so in fact it doesn't matter.

This is true. Especially when you use imported materials for the construction of your business establishment and as well as things you use for your business you tend to pay higher compared to the original price of the materials - that is because of the tax imposed on imported things.  That is just almost the same - otherwise, you will only use local materials that are cheap.
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