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3081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: June 28, 2023, 09:16:55 AM
~snip~

The key is to know when to stop, and for some people to know to never start.

The painful moment is when you have to stop because you don't have more money. And that can be a huge problem for many people, unfortunately.
If you have experience playing gambling and have good self-control, it may be easy for you to stop. But not for those who can't stop because they will definitely keep playing and maybe until the money runs out. Almost all of us have experienced this where we must stop because we have no more money to keep gambling. We should understand when to stop before the money runs out so we don't get into trouble later. We can deposit some more money because we have run out of money to play gambling, which can cause financial problems.
3082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: (Crypto Games) A revolution in the gaming industry or a passing trend? on: June 27, 2023, 10:50:41 PM
Crypto gaming industry or crypto gambling industry? Because the two industries are now growing rapidly compared to a few years ago. And with technology that is also developing, it makes the industry both better and able to attract more people.

The challenges faced may still be around government regulations where there are taxes and KYC. And that makes crypto users uncomfortable and keep looking for less stringent services in carrying out their regulations. Perhaps, the problem that is still being faced is the problem of fraud that is still happening.

Perhaps, you need to explain in more detail what you mean so we can provide an explanation that fits your wants.
3083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your rate in betting base on odds alone? on: June 27, 2023, 10:31:41 PM
I don't often win bets in soccer games, especially if I don't do an analysis. Analyzing before placing a bet is very important to know how big the chance is for the team we want to choose to win. If you lose every day, you need to take a break because it will only make you place more bets. If you can analyze, you can place multiple bets at once. But if you don't analyze, you will lose no matter how much money you use. It's better for you to bet on a team that you know and can collect more complete data so you can win. Just skip matches you don't know about so you don't experience a losing streak because you placed many bets.
3084  Economy / Gambling / Re: Question about casino, sports bet on: June 27, 2023, 10:02:04 PM
Hi, i would like to know if there is any android application for casino sites, sports bets where you can bet with crypto thanks
I have never used a crypto app to bet in a casino until now. Most of the time I bet directly from browser for gambling it is very easy to access. If you want, you can access and play bets from the browser, it will be convenient for you, you will not have to wait for your sports bets. But you can gamble all kipto sports by mobile if you want.
If you are more concerned with your mobile phone, you should only install casino applications or other sites you know. But if you know the casino is trusted, you can install it to find out what the casino looks like in the application. And it's best if after you try to play through the application, you can find out which one is more comfortable for you when you play gambling. Many of us directly use a browser to visit the casino site via phone, but many of us prefer to use a computer or laptop because the view can be wider. And that is the reason why many prefer to use a computer or laptop rather than a phone to gamble.
3085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: June 27, 2023, 09:38:43 PM
~snip~
There will be many people who always say about the importance of self-control but for me it's not that easy.
Because someone who is going to gambling for the first time, they are not aware that sometimes getting big wins is like luck, even though it is a trap to continue gambling with the ambition of getting bigger, but subconsciously the money will continue to be sucked in and lose after that, regret it.
This is the beginning of a person's addiction, which is a feeling of disappointment and after that they chase their defeats.
So if it's like this someone will find it difficult to control himself because in his mind there is always winning and winning.

That's what an addiction is.

It's similar to many other ones, like alcohol for example. People start drinking, and slowly drink a bit more without realizing the damage they are causing, because at the moment it feels good to drink or gamble, but then after a while they realize that they have lost all their money.
That's because a temptation to keep gambling makes them continue to gamble. They will see more promotions coming up to make them curious. Curiosity triggers them to try to get it by depositing more money. They are not aware and continue to play gambling as usual, but all that exists is that they experience defeats that can even exceed their budget or limits. In addition, the desire to repeat gambling games will pull them deeper into gambling, and eventually, they will become addicted to gambling.
3086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: June 27, 2023, 05:17:16 PM
Casino is a business and they surely have more money to invest in using AI to make sure that gamblers will not have that edge against them, they will not allow anyone to make them as a cash cow or else we will see more gambling business to close and we should expect that there are many successful gamblers to make millions out from this system..

Just a scenario if only AI technology will learn it and make an accurate prediction. Though I'm not closing the possibility but I also follow this statement that it's a business and business will find ways to counter the advantage.
There is no doubt that casinos will look for the latest technology that can be implemented in their places of business to prevent fraud. Casinos will not let those crooked gamblers win and take the casino's profits and will be even more careful in overseeing their business. And supported by their resources, they have a security team that is quite good at guarding the casino.

gambler AI competition with gambling AI? Cheesy
a little ridiculous but this is not what I mean but every casino has a security system and they will always improve the security system by all means to avoid any loss on the gambling platform.
so that there is no competition between gamblers and gambling owners, it's just that gambling has an obligation to continue to improve system security.

so there is no other way even though AI is continuously developed but still casinos always have stronger and smarter security.
It's ridiculous, but it might happen in the future. With the potential for even better technological advances in the future, it could happen so that what we have never imagined will happen. I also can't imagine what will happen, but the technology now with us will improve greatly. And yes, I agree that casinos will also evolve and have stronger and better security, but that doesn't stop gamblers who want to cheat from finding other ways to win from the casino.

When it comes to casinos, I can assure you that AIs don't have any privilege to worry about, just like the manual, some might win at times yet this is not a threat to the house because it's normal that you win at times, which doesn't stop the fact that you might lose many times after. But when it comes to sportsbooks, AIs can work more in helping one to quickly get it done, this is even those that know nothing about the sport but knows how to risk lower and manage their bets well with AI understanding.

Still, this is not a significant threat to the industry because AIs are no-god, the outcomes of sports are not predetermined, and one can only get to speculate through past reviews and connect feats.
It's normal if we win, but if we win in a row and in a large amount, the casino will suspect it and investigate what happened. And if it was caused by cheating committed by a gambler, the casino will take action immediately by blocking his account so he can't withdraw his winnings.

And with the help of artificial intelligence, which can collect more data than we can, it can provide information that we might not find so that we can get even more information. With AI, gamblers can analyze in a short time because they can get the data in a short time.
3087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: June 27, 2023, 04:50:19 PM
It’s crazy that sites are allowing people to bet on this fight already. As serious as they may seem about it, Elon is so rich and has such an important mission ahead of him, it would be stupid to fight. Imagine human beings never become a multi planetary species because Elon got injured in a fight with the Zuck… Any place I can bet on this fight not happening?
Most likely they will end up not doing it. Elon is older than Zuck and Zuckerberg already got trained in MMA. It won't be easy for Elon to beat Zuckerberg.
Well, perhaps some casinos will allow people to bet because people might see it as a competition that will be interesting to bet on. Perhaps, this bet will be an event for both of them to get more fans. And people looking to place a bet on either of the two are sure to find out who has the potential to win. It might be a sensational gamble this year if it works Grin

It's better to watch both of them and not bet on either one because we can bet on something else we like more.
3088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: June 27, 2023, 04:19:00 PM
The lottery is all about luck... I think that even with more tickets chances of hitting the jackpot are still slim. I never played state (or any other) lottery, I don't see some entertainment in that, I am more for some other gambling games, more dynamic ones.

I don't like lotteries, at least I don't like to buy tickets. But I like to collect tickets with playing (wagering, depositing...), it's something I find interesting.
At least people thought that if they could buy more tickets, their chances of getting the prize would be bigger too. That's why people continue to buy lottery tickets because they still hope to be the winner and be able to bring home the prize. They never think winning is difficult but still love buying lottery tickets. Sometimes there is a special preoccupation with seeing the ticket numbers that can come out so the ticket owner becomes the winner. And for those who lose, they still don't stop buying at a later time because they want to be the winner.
^There are people who really want to find their luck at low odds because, for me, it is understandable that people believe buying more lottery tickets increases their chances of winning the prize? The hope of becoming a winner and taking home the coveted prize drives them to continue purchasing tickets. Despite the known difficulties of winning, individuals remain enthusiastic about buying lottery tickets. There is a certain fascination with anticipating the numbers that probably be drawn, as it brings forth the possibility of being declared the lucky winner. Even for those who have experienced losses, the desire to eventually secure a win keeps them motivated to buy tickets in subsequent attempts. It's a testament to the enduring optimism and the allure of the possibility of winning that keeps people engaged in this pursuit.
The hope of getting the prize by buying more lottery tickets leads them to keep trying because, with not too much money, their chances of winning will be greater. But actually, it will depend on the amount of luck they have because if they don't, they won't win and instead lose their money. But they don't regret it because they realize that it's a lottery game, and some keep buying lottery tickets, and some end up winning. And yes, it's like a motivation for them to keep buying lottery tickets even though the chances of luck coming to them are not big.
3089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: June 27, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
Casinos that are big and have a good reputation and are trusted by their customers must always have a way of adjusting the losses and wins that their customers must get so that the casino doesn't lose and the customers are also not too disappointed so that both parties will agree with everything. what happened in the casino.
Lots of efforts have been made by casinos to keep running and be more successful in developing their business without going bankrupt but having the trust of customers such as bonuses etc.
So that even if a customer loses big or wins big there is always good treatment from the casino.
The important thing is everyone can be happy to get what they want. And if a gambler loses, they will still try to gamble again, and many will deposit more money. But after trying to play gambling again, some will win, and some will still lose. After all, the losing gambler will still be curious even if the casino doesn't do anything to the gambler's detriment because it depends on the gambler's luck. The casino continues to earn the trust of its customers and can continue to run its business while the gamblers continue to play to win.

Casinos that has limited budget and suffered a huge loss because of the players' huge win often times pay the player in tranches so that they operation won't be affected that much and that also give the casino time to collect the amount to pay the player.  They do that kind approach since they don't want to scam the player.
That is if the casino still has the funds to continue its business. But if not, the casino has to complete the payment while waiting for the funds to be ready so that gamblers don't think it's a scam casino. And that's what casinos that are really serious about doing their business do, and casinos should be open and explain the situation and conditions to the players so they understand. With such an approach, the casino will not lose its reputation and can still run its business well.
3090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: June 27, 2023, 03:27:25 PM
although it is not explained in detail why some offline casinos sell liquor, i personally believe it is only for their profit... when gamblers are drunk they will lose control over themselves, so the ability to mind control will decrease, as a result, they will gamble uncontrollably and even spend all the money they have.  maybe some people will have fun gambling + getting drunk because they have a lot of money but for those who only have mediocre money, it is really not recommended to gamble + get drunk, you will only make yourself poorer.
Casinos sell liquor to give gamblers a chance to take a short break after gambling. And actually, gamblers can also use it to reduce the tension they experience while gambling so that if they decide to continue playing gambling, they have refreshed their minds and can enjoy the game. But most gamblers take liquor with them during the next gambling game, making them forget to control themselves. In addition, playing gambling while drunk can cause emotions to be triggered so that they will increase in a short time and make them use more of their money to win the gamble.
3091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: June 27, 2023, 02:54:10 PM
Taking more time to research all the things that you need before taking your trade or before positioning your trade, it's important to know all the aspects, though just by the same process, if you know more about the things that you are doing you can have some edge, it applies with sports betting and so with future trading, if you have that knowledge about the sports and you really paying attentions to all the factors that affects the outcome you can create good assumptions though not an accurate one but can have some little edge from those who don't have that knowledge,

Same process as future trade. If you focus on learning how the market moves, then you can anticipate the directions, still not an accurate but you can use it as a basis when placing your position.
So trading with sports betting has something in common where we have to take more time to research from various sources. And that's why we need the ability to analyze data from where we find it to determine when to enter the market or place a bet. With these basics, we can place bets or know when to enter the market to increase the chances of getting profits. Perhaps, the results we get cannot be accurate, but at least we can predict what will happen and make a backup plan if the results of our analysis are wrong. And everything is a process that we have to face where learning to analyze or learning how the market moves will never end. We must continue to learn if we want to benefit.
3092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: June 27, 2023, 02:32:37 PM
This sounds like it's about gambling addicts and winning or losing but not to me.
But a gambler who considers gambling as a place to earn income because they need money or a job and that's when he knows how to multiply money even though this is not true but this kind of gambler will ignore the notion of anything that he thinks is only getting profit for his survival.
So for me it's not about being an addict or about winning or losing but more like needing a job and gambling is seen as a job to make money.
That person should be able to think that gambling is not a place to make money so he doesn't try so hard and look elsewhere. However, if he continues gambling to make money, he can eventually become a gambling addict, especially if he doesn't stop to rest after playing gambling for some time. And that's why we shouldn't try so hard to make money from gambling because that doesn't guarantee we can make money. They have to find another job to make money, which would be better than gambling.
3093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Important Points to Learn from Your Worst Sports Betting Losses! on: June 26, 2023, 10:06:46 PM
I will start by saying that you should not afford taking a risk of what you cannot cope with the conditions attached to it especially when it comes to gambling funds, dont borrow money to gamble, dont rush into gamble, dont compare yourself with other gamblers, try to learn gambling on your own and don't be so dependent and the most important aspect of it all is for you not to get addicted to gambling by any chance.
That's true, but the problem is that there are still people who still take the risk even though the loss of money will still occur as long as they play gambling. And they can still borrow the money to recover the loss, but that still doesn't guarantee they can recover the loss. And if we lose, we should be able to accept our defeat so that we won't have feelings of regret for having used the money to gamble. And hopefully, after that feeling of regret starts to grow, we can slowly realize the mistakes we have made before so that we can be better by not gambling.
3094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you guilty of promising not to gamble for specific days but back next day on: June 26, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
The addictions that come with gambling when someone becomes addicted are not something that can be quit with only a simple "will not do it again" statement. The ability to stop gambling requires a lot of discipline.

Anyone who continues to bet after making a pledge not to do so needs to work on finding something else to occupy their thoughts. Even if it's to engage in some exercises or something else that will keep his attention off gambling because most people who are addicted to gambling started out of being bored and greedy to the level that they can't go a day without getting themselves engaged in it.
Addiction is one of the worst scenarios that any gambler wouldn't want to be in; it accumulates everything and also wipes out all of our money. After taking fundamental attempts to evacuate the space for the time being, we're in a challenging setting. This has happened to the vast majority of individuals; some have managed to survive and adapt to their principles, while others are unable to maintain their commitments and are compelled to turn to gambling, where they gain and lose a lot of money. Working against our principles justifies our gambling addiction.
They need to be able to say no if they want to go back to gambling one day. Indeed, it is hard to resist the temptation of gambling, but that's what they have to do so they don't become gambling addicts. Apart from that, we have also seen the consequences of playing gambling too often because it can trigger us not to stop playing even though we have won or have reached our target. We can evaluate what we have done before to see if we are lucky and can get a win or if we only experience defeat. Diversion of the mind is what we need to avoid the urge to gamble and not experience defeat again. And if we still want to gamble, we really have to have strong self-control so we don't cross that line.
3095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: June 26, 2023, 04:11:03 PM
Gambling is a very bad habit if the gambler becomes addicted to gambling. Those who engage in original gambling play a major role especially in making money and also in losses. Gambling in particular can never be completely unprofitable. Many have lost huge amounts of money and are carrying debt burdens by selling assets, yet people are not immune to gambling addiction. And the employees who build these casinos are the main gamblers and they are the ones who are heavily addicted to gambling to keep their casinos running. And they are highly skilled, if you look at their intelligence and strategy, you will be amazed. And play sparingly without getting addicted to the tide.
Gambling addicts always bring harmful aspects and therefore should be played as a means of entertainment. Many times older and experienced gamblers lose something to gain. You have to decide on your own if you want to quit gambling. Because the addiction goes to such a level that one cannot stop oneself from this addiction even if one wishes. Addicted to gambling, as a result of which his problems are not solved, but the problems are more pronounced.
Gambling addicts will just continue playing even if they have more money. But they will find it difficult to make gambling a steady income because gambling is all about winning and losing. And we can only have the potential to lose rather than the potential to win so we have to realize this before we become a gambling addict. We really have to prevent ourselves from becoming gambling addicts because there are so many consequences that we can experience, which are very painful. We shouldn't use gambling to earn a steady income because the chances are small.
3096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: June 26, 2023, 03:52:05 PM
I don't think that gambling is better than futures trading because until now I haven't found many users who do futures trading broke but what we mostly find are gamblers who are broke, that's why futures trading is much better than any kind of gambling despite the way they work and have the same risks.

I'm not a gambling expert, but I sometimes bet on football. But that was when I didn't have much to do. That means I do it for entertainment only. So I don't think of making money from gambling. Then for futures trading. I've done that, I can even earn $100 dollars in one day. But in the end I was greedy and my capital was exhausted. Maybe this is due to the reason that I can't manage emotions. But from then on I quit futures trading. I currently trade a lot in the spot market only. Not bad but I measured my ability.
I agree that greed makes us lose a lot of money in gambling and futures trading. I also experience and feel what you feel, and it's really not good. But I reduced my activity in gambling and tried to learn to trade better, including learning to analyze market movements that are always changing. I prefer trading more often than gambling because I gain much more. So I think taking trading more seriously would give us a bigger chance to make a profit. Spot trading can also be a solution to make money, but having skills in trading is a must for a trader.
3097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: June 26, 2023, 03:26:29 PM
most people who get drunk are those who lose control of themselves, the kind who can't think normally, and act normally. And when you are very drunk, the things you think and say are not good. Especially if they are gambling, they don't think about how much they are losing.

So sometimes, they will realize in the end that what they did is shameful or they will think that what they did when they were drunk was also wrong.
Losing money in gambling when drunk is risky because they can't think straight and just want to keep playing. Perhaps, they also don't care if they have won and still want to keep gambling. And when they are aware, they will not remember what they have done, but other people will be affected by what they have done. We have to take care not to gamble when drunk, and maybe it will hurt us. And when drunk, we should stay away from gambling than we will later regret or experience defeat that we cannot accept.
3098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't gamble if you don't have patience on: June 26, 2023, 03:09:17 PM
That point that he won't realize that he already losses a lot will sink over when he don't have any money to use, that aggressiveness that will push him to keep chasing either to win more or to recover those losses as quick as possible, things that lingering inside a gamblers mind when inside the house, it's the emotion that casino owners wanted to have from the gamblers, in this situation the winner will always be the house owner, they simply benefiting with such emotions expectingly that gamblers will add more funds when the bankroll already busted.
If he keeps trying to catch up to recover his losses, he can lose more money because there is no guarantee for him to win in the next round. Especially if it were a luck-based gambling game, he would only lose if he didn't get lucky. And when he has lost several rounds, he can lose self-control and become emotional. When someone is emotional, he will not be able to think straight. After experiencing repeated defeats, he should have stopped himself from continuing to gamble and would rather take a short break to relieve his tension.

Talking about patience will be very difficult to do in gambling after getting a big loss and will trigger emotions that make a gambler lose control and cannot control himself then make bets in a row and lose more money.
After that, gamblers who are emotional and chase defeat will certainly continue to chase until the loss feels fulfilled without realizing that it's not as easy as they think.
With this we can understand the importance of patience when betting on gambling.
We can only keep trying to learn to be patient so we don't get more losses. Even though it may take a long time to be patient, it is still worth it. Those who lose their minds and become emotional will suffer losses in large numbers, so they can get frustrated seeing their gambling results. It's not as easy as they think because our chances of losing will increase in gambling. By learning to be patient, we may regulate our gambling patterns and will not spend the money we deposit to play gambling.
3099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: June 26, 2023, 02:41:52 PM
Yeah, this is a business that the management will determine it these incidents are likely to happen. They've got a lot of money ready to be deployed if ever they ran out of it and someone wins big at unexpected time. They've got ways of controlling winning players like discouraging them and limiting their wagers.
So the casino does have the power to control players, so they can't always win big. Perhaps, only a few players can get big wins, but others will suffer big losses. A casino that owns its business will not allow all of its members to win big. And if a player who wins big doesn't stop playing, then that big win might turn into a big loss, so that will eliminate the money they won before.
They can adjust everything as they're the owner of the casino business, so owners can do that and they've got unlimited power to adjust everything favoring them. But if no one is winning such huge wins, that will be noticed by most players. Not a problem for them to allow someone to win big or just a few of them but look at the games that we're talking about. Because if they've got no control over it, I mean if it's about the luck-based games, people will win no matter what chances they've got.
That's what casino owners can do but won't do it or cheat players not to win because it can bring down their reputation. This is also what a reputable casino always maintains, it can earn its reputation through many things and will not waste the trust of its players. And if it's a luck based game, many players cannot win big money because it depends on how good the player's luck is. So casinos don't hinder players from winning and do a lot to adjust everything to their advantage.
3100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: June 26, 2023, 02:16:12 PM
The lottery is all about luck... I think that even with more tickets chances of hitting the jackpot are still slim. I never played state (or any other) lottery, I don't see some entertainment in that, I am more for some other gambling games, more dynamic ones.

I don't like lotteries, at least I don't like to buy tickets. But I like to collect tickets with playing (wagering, depositing...), it's something I find interesting.
At least people thought that if they could buy more tickets, their chances of getting the prize would be bigger too. That's why people continue to buy lottery tickets because they still hope to be the winner and be able to bring home the prize. They never think winning is difficult but still love buying lottery tickets. Sometimes there is a special preoccupation with seeing the ticket numbers that can come out so the ticket owner becomes the winner. And for those who lose, they still don't stop buying at a later time because they want to be the winner.
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