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Yeah it is all a game... and I am pretty good on my history...  tbh I am not sure on the no blood situation though.. desperation is never a good thing, I am not talking nuclear war, but maybe a few unwanted bangs in unwanted places... and I am not sure that players will just do nothing... especially if the stick/noose they are being jabbed with/lassoed with is big enough/tight enough... desperation is never a good thing You seem very sure of everything.. and good for you... I personally have never found that works so well, I wish I could share your optimism.. I am afraid though there will be blood... by that I mean more blood... (there has been a fair amount of lost souls in the past month alone, that a few months ago were pootling around kiev or amsterdam or KL etc without a care in the world, lets not forget those poor unexpecting people.. nor for that matter the people in Syria, Iraq, rest of Ukraine etc) the game is not sanitised and is not in (full) control... I wish it were but is bloody isn't. Nice discussion, my friend  Do not be afraid. The US/UK/Mexico/Canada/Japan/Australia planners are trying their best to scare their population, but nowadays with the internet it is quite hard to do so in a systemic way. They will fail in this regard. There has been indeed a lot of blood to maintain this world-wide status quo. Better start to think of it as the past. An economic world war has been played in the last decades. This war is economic. After these events unfold, the (rest of the) world will be a better place, at least for a while. No WW3 on sight. Lets not forget we share the same destiny on this giant rolling stone. This historic anomaly ends now. Indeed nice discussion, my friend I hope you are right... and yeah WW3 not in sight. I agree with the sentiment... but I still think that there is going to could be a bang in a city in a place that is not expecting it at some point before all this is up... I cannot see the players giving in so easily. As for the longer term future... with that I DO share your optimism, the world is a changin' indeed and in the future I see some rapid evolution events.. I do still believe in people.. and I do think we are on a verge of global changes... I just hope they come in time, and with as little blood as possible.. i.e there is not another 9/11 style event in a major city that takes a lot of civilian lives... one last(?) big bang so to speak to kickstart this whole thing.. I hope you are right..and I am wrong and it never happens, and the consequences that follow are avoided. Indeed this giant rolling stone we call home in this giant universe we hardly understand is our shared home... Peace. |
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right I am with you on all of it.. these are certainly parts of the game being played... parts of it.. but as I said.. the game has not finished.. it never does.. in the end I do not think we are going to plunge into world war 3 (at least not just yet) certainly not on purpose anyway
The ISIS situation in my view has got a Saudi element to it, but also a US and UK and also a Russian,Iranian,Syrian, Israeli elements to it too.. who knows what the next move is there... and from whom.
The question who is is-is is not benign, and it quite important... really who is pulling their strings and what is their end game and where will it stop, and is it part of a bigger game? is this a Matryoshka doll of games? could it be that they are linked and part of a far bigger game? most likely.
My government and the US government and all of the social media networks have been making a point of ramming (ISIS) down my visual oesophagus for quite some time, and arabs in general for the past 25 years... and there has been move after move.. who know what the next move is?
How scared do any of the players need people to be to achieve their next goals?
The major player in this game is desperate, the others are doing yoga... If the major player attempt something stupid, his own people will get so much unstable as to make it powerless. Their only move is to trigger a war somewhere and/or some other casus belli for military interventions. Just to gain some years of time. But their destiny is inevitable. It all started with the 2 world wars. The turning point was the Nixon Shock. The major player economy has sucked the blood of the rest of the world for a long time. The rest of the world is about to get rid of the yoke, without a single drop of blood. They only have to do nothing, and watch the dynamics unfold. As I said, the whole game is about the status of the USD as reserve currency in international trades. If someone may say that is a 'nut theory', he is invited to wait until their newspapers start saying the same thing. Oh wait... oooopsThing is , Russia today is not the Russia of yesteryear, they can now provide most of what they need, and have enough other allies that they can survive easily with our US or the EU and their sanctions.. so I am not sure how effective more severe sanctions will be...
They still have a fantastically bloated military (4.1% of their GDP, more than the US, which is already bloated). Their main source of export income is through natural resources. If the US and the EU come to terms on this and block all imports of natural resources, you can be sure it will be felt in Russia. It'll also be felt in the EU (higher energy prices, first of all), but I very much doubt it'll have the same impact as it would on Russia if military wages and pensions aren't paid on time anymore. Which, if it would come to that, would be supremely ironic, since that's at least a major factor how Putin consolidated his power - keeping the military happy. Indeed I do hear you, but my point is that Russia is in a position to increase its business with Brazil,India,China,South Africa, Middle east, etc and do so at a time that the US and Europe are not exactly at their fighting fittest financially speaking themselves.. and indeed they are already doing so and longterm, this is more likely to have a knock on effect to the dollar and its place as the global reserve/petro dollar...
Yeah it is all a game... and I am pretty good on my history... tbh I am not sure on the no blood situation though.. desperation is never a good thing, I am not talking nuclear war, but maybe a few unwanted bangs in unwanted places... and I am not sure that players will just do nothing... especially if the stick/noose they are being jabbed with/lassoed with is big enough/tight enough... desperation is never a good thing You seem very sure of everything.. and good for you... I personally have never found that works so well, I wish I could share your optimism.. I am afraid though there will be blood... by that I mean more blood... (there has been a fair amount of lost souls in the past month alone, that a few months ago were pootling around kiev or amsterdam or KL etc without a care in the world, lets not forget those poor unexpecting people.. nor for that matter the people in Syria, Iraq, rest of Ukraine etc) the game is not sanitised and is not in (full) control... I wish it were but it bloody isn't. |
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The dynamics are in plain sight, if some can look through the fog:
- non-recommendable people came into power in Ukraine
- Russia occupy Crimea
- EU countries supposed to fear about the mean in which the energy market express
- US reveal a new gas deposit that 'can feed Europe'
- Putin play the nonchalance game
- EU does nothing
- US gas deposit re-estimated at 95% less than declared by independent analysts
- a few weeks ago Ukraine and Russia start talks to officially de-escalate the situation
- US media keep reporting about tensions anyway
- Russia dump 1/3 of his American T-Bonds
- US public political figures play macho 'at ridiculous levels'
- Putin tell them to 'do some yoga and relax', also he is photographed with gold ingots in his hand
This, bear in mind, is only a tiny fraction of the game.
Another side-story, all of this in August
- Prime minister of Japan on a national holiday pay homage to WWII war criminals, that killed 10s of millions of chinese
- China complain
- US 'publicly confirm' WWII era 'military friendship' with Australia
- Prime minister of Japan talk to the Australian parliament, his words a 'de-facto military alliance' according to analysts
Then there is the ISIS situation, that i still have to gasp, but rest assured it has something to do with Saudis.
Why all of this? Because the USD is being dropped as the world reserve currency in international trades.
right I am with you on all of it.. these are certainly parts of the game being played... parts of it.. but as I said.. the game has not finished.. it never does.. in the end I do not think we are going to plunge into world war 3 (at least not just yet) certainly not on purpose anyway The ISIS situation in my view has got a Saudi element to it (what does not these days) but also a US and UK and also a Russian,Iranian,Iraqi,Syrian, Israeli elements to it too.. who knows what the next move is there... and from whom... but I know my gov and media wants to make us feel that the next move is a bang in my back yard.. why would they do that? and will there actually be a bang ? or is the fear of, enough? The question who is "is-is" is not benign, and it quite important... really who is pulling their strings and what is their end game and where will it stop, and is it part of a bigger game? is this a Matryoshka doll of games? could it be that they are linked and part of a far bigger game? most likely. My government/media and the US government/media and all of the social media networks have been making a point of ramming (ISIS) down my visual oesophagus for quite some time, and arabs in general for the past 25 years... and there has been move after move.. who knows what the next move is? How scared do any of the players need people to be to achieve their next goals? Unless you think that we are at a point in history , where no bad shit is ever going to happen again (to westeners in the west, I mean because it certainly has not stopped in much of the world) which I find quite a statement to stand behind... I could only hope you are right... but the game is not over methinks... and earlier you mentioned that it is "too late" well I am not sure about that... is the ante not increasing in more and more ways? I would welcome a situation where the west is not attacked on its own soil again.. but do I believe it... sorry no.. and then if/when that happens.... what will come .........next. |
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Did the pictures make you feel nostalgic ? (ps I note that images of the plant are non existent) I don't miss it, to be honest. 21 hours of work a day. The pictures of the plant would be classified. I can imagine it was hard work and an experience and a headfuck all rolled into one.. yeah that is what I wss getting at with the pics of the plant I imagine there is only so much you yourself would be allowed to discuss. 21 hours a day... omg, guess that has put you in good stead for eyeballing Bitcoin charts  Also I bet you could not wait to go ashore... or did you get channel fever |
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This game is about money. Someone want to trigger a war, ANY WAR, before it is too late, but guess what? It is too late already.
Ukraine situation has de-escalated already, people are still being drafted but it is because they started mobilizing 6 months ago and these processes are slow.
This whole Ukraine thing was to scare EU. As you can see, it has not worked i'm afraid.
Posting shitty propaganda news and pictures of nuclear rockets is not going to work.
Turn out Americans weren't that exceptional after all, don't you agree empowering?
Ha.. I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick of what I am getting at.... Americans are not exceptional Like I said... All a game (from my earlier post: I am not sure what the message is... I think they are trying to tell us something...I think they just want everyone to relax... ) anyways... Ukraine or not... the "shitty" propaganda is exactly the point ... end game? be afraid... thing is... is there more to come in the next move? Who knows.... Historically bad things happen... and they will again I am afraid game or no game... and I often ponder the meaning of media presented to me by my government... and have to ponder... what comes next. (i.e as long as nothing goes bang, then the ISIS fear mongering tactic, is the end game.. but what if there IS(is) another move? and of that you nor I can be certain.....until it either happens or it does not, ditto for Ukraine/Russia situation and ditto for Israel/Iran situation) Edit: also how scared do they want people to be? 9/11 scared? or a little less? or a little more? how far is this game going to go, and how any people have to pay? I do not believe we have all the answers, you nor I... but I also do not think that this game is that near the end either... because it never stops.... |
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Did the pictures make you feel nostalgic ? (ps I note that images of the plant are non existent) |
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400's again for some seconds when I was out, but still close to no volume.
And seriously ppl posting rocket pictures at this situation?
(the point is not the rockets- the point is "it is all a game" and I am not talking Bitcoin) |
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    (you know this guy is just taping this trident nose spike up with a bit of gaffer tape because gaffer tape fixes everything)  As you were these guys have got our backs... (Ohio class + tridents and Virginia class) (your hard earned and well spent tax payers $) s/ It is all a game |
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Thing is , Russia today is not the Russia of yesteryear, they can now provide most of what they need, and have enough other allies that they can survive easily with our US or the EU and their sanctions.. so I am not sure how effective more severe sanctions will be...
They still have a fantastically bloated military (4.1% of their GDP, more than the US, which is already bloated). Their main source of export income is through natural resources. If the US and the EU come to terms on this and block all imports of natural resources, you can be sure it will be felt in Russia. It'll also be felt in the EU (higher energy prices, first of all), but I very much doubt it'll have the same impact as it would on Russia if military wages and pensions aren't paid on time anymore. Which, if it would come to that, would be supremely ironic, since that's at least a major factor how Putin consolidated his power - keeping the military happy. Indeed I do hear you, but my point is that Russia is in a position to increase its business with Brazil,India,China,South Africa, Middle east, etc and do so at a time that the US and Europe are not exactly at their fighting fittest financially speaking themselves.. and indeed they are already doing so and longterm, this is more likely to have a knock on effect to the dollar and its place as the global reserve/petro dollar... but I do hear you... but this is why this situation is not that funny... this is the stuff conflict is made of. edit: also I am not sure Europes heart is in this at all... they seem to be more bullied into agreement/partaking by the US.. how long will they allow the negative effects caused by this "agreement" to go on for? will they go all the way and carry the course? or will they eventually decice they are on the wrong side, or at least caught in the middle of a fight that is not in their best interests? keeping in mind that the eurozone is in deep doo doo themselves. |
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Just a reminder this is wall observer not war observer ok.
This is more a Bitcoiners hangout, OT is fine when the action is slow ? this is my interpretation at least? |
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Maybe the EU will impose more sanctions, that will teach Putin. Wait, they might send a strongly worded letter. The Russians will do what they want because Europe is a tiger with no teeth, no fangs. The US cares, but is too busy. Conspiracy theory: Russia funds and trains ISIS just to keep the US out of the conflict. Meh. Not the biggest friend of EU in its current form, but also don't think your description is entirely fair. What is anyone supposed to do, US or EU? Go to war? With a nuclear superpower, over a territory that is neither part of the EU, nor NATO? Seriously, what are the realistic options on how to handle this? Don't just say "send military support, under the radar". That doesn't really work in Russia (the "under the radar" part, I mean), so it sure won't work in the Union. Any military support will be out in the open. And I can see two scenarios: Russia is impressed, and backs down. Or the conflict escalates. Now, how high is the probability that it'll escalate? Let's say, up to nuclear escalation. Unlikely, maybe. But there was a reason for the way the US and the USSR avoided direct confrontations during the cold war... let's not pretend everything is completely different now, just because Russia is a democracy now, on paper at least. Realistically, sanctions and diplomatic pressure are the only option I see - although I'd prefer the US and EU would impose more severe sanctions than what we've seen so far. Realistically I do not think we need to duck and cover just yet, but also this situation is far from undercontrol, and Putin is a smart cookie... Obama and Cameron on the otherhand... super fly weights. Thing is , Russia today is not the Russia of yesteryear, they can now provide most of what they need, and have enough other allies that they can survive easily with our US or the EU and their sanctions.. so I am not sure how effective more severe sanctions will be... |
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Maybe the EU will impose more sanctions, that will teach Putin. Wait, they might send a strongly worded letter. The Russians will do what they want because Europe is a tiger with no teeth, no fangs. The US cares, but is too busy. Conspiracy theory: Russia funds and trains ISIS just to keep the US out of the conflict. Conspiracy theory, Russia funds ISIS, err but with american dollars and american weapons, and american intel, and Russia stirred up the pot in Syria, but with american money american weapons american intel and american people pretending to be russians pretending to be americans... just to "keep the us out of the confilict" right.. because you know the americans are total saints, and have no plan for total spectrum domination and one true world hegemony no, none whatsover, it must be the russians fault I guess the question is who is isis? and also seeing as they were recently described as middle aged balding Iraqis, does this mean they are having a midlife isis? (credit to colbert for those jokes) |
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Very bad indeed - in Greece official gov will be with NATO while the majority of people with Russia. Unexpected results, you don't wanna trigger this kind of stuff in EU, damnit... I have Ukrainan friends (and russian, in fact I have several that are couples i.e one from ukraine and one from russia) and the ukranians are getting called up en masse to join the army conscription style, and even ones abroad are being told to come back and train to fight... I also have Russian friends telling me that it is not safe for friends to go back to Russia, (russian expats) because they will be let in, but not let out again. I also have friends that tell me, half a year/a year before this all even kicked off, that far right, boardering on nazis are being funded by foreigners to oust the government in kiev, and take over, and then they did... Someone has been stirring the pot here... Consequences indeed... the first casualty of war has occured quite some time ago.... again good, ordinary, decent, normal people, are being led down a garden path by a bunch of protected, rich, clean handed, psychopaths , that could not give a fuck about the rest of us... and to think some people , voted some of these people into power. New rule, send your own children to battle along with themselves... then I might give a fuck about these mad bastards games. Anyway, hopefully this is all rhetoric, but even then, could this be the final nail in the coffin for NATO ? |
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all i know is its absolutely vital i make this Tshirt b4 SEPTEMBER 12 TO 14, 2014 for comiccon
Have you not been paying attention to the news? World is going to end on September 11th, confirmed. Somebody call 911 I believe he just did. Called it as the end  quick duck and cover.... everything is going to be just fine... Chuck Norris Putin doesn't do push ups. He pushes the world down. (I would pay a LOT of money to see Putin a) in a ring with David Cameron and Obama, and b) play Chess with cameron and obama and c) have an actual HONEST no BS discussion about the games being played in the world,with cameron and obama fact is putin would kick there asses in all events... which says more about Cameron and Obama than it does Putin tbh)  another funny Putin gif, that will not load on tihs page = https://i.imgur.com/AphSu.gif |
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all i know is its absolutely vital i make this Tshirt b4 SEPTEMBER 12 TO 14, 2014 for comiccon
Have you not been paying attention to the news? World is going to end on September 11th, confirmed. Somebody call 911 I believe he just did. Called it as the end quick duck and cover.... everything is going to be just fine... |
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