Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine? A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites? Completely negates the possibility of a dump? Could provide publicity over many months rather than just one hit? Negates the need to have to educate the Lakota in the ways of crypto, they can learn about it organically? I seems worthy of discussion to me, but instead I'm a puss filled gambler or something. You guys.......  There has been some very good discussions surrounding the tech barrier. RFIDS, NFC, portable transaction devices could work very well. Old Samsung phone drives, to get smartphones into the hands of everyone. Personally IMO each community should train a broker to help invest and cash in when needed. There is a Maza ebay type market already, they just need a liaison to help people get their products online. There are some very strong indigenous markets out there. Some of the products can be worth a lot of money to many ppl around the world. This facebook group for the small town of Iqaluit has a thriving market. https://www.facebook.com/groups/148530435247065/Playground for a photo op, seriously?  Yes, really, why not? You are trying to attract"average joes" aren't you? Joes have baby joes, baby joes sell newspapers. How can providing a playground possibly not be good? Your plan on the other hand is riddled with holes, will take a long, long time and is complicated. You've got to get people interested in a coin that is on the floor and "discussions about RFID and NFC" are just mental. You are asking people to fit in with the coin, it needs to be the other way around. You're trying to run before you can walk. Average joes don't want complicated, they want easy - and still there is that looming dump........ Discounting the intelligence of the average person is definitely not a virtue. Kenya leads the world in paying with things with a simple phone. It's not that pie in the sky. Kenya FFS... "around 25% of the country’s gross national product flows through it. M-PESA lets people transfer cash using their phones - See more at: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2013/05/economist-explains-18#sthash.lC3aeykN.dpuf" Errr, that's just cash, like Pingit from Barclays in the UK. The reason they use phones is that many don't have internet connections at home. It's all there in the article you linked, if you read it. Nothing to do with crypto. You are a smart guy work it out, he is saying that the same system could be set up, but with cryptos , and they can use the system on the res ? that is obvious right? that is what he was trying to say? but you can see that right? |
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Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine?
A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites?
This is what I sort of assumed they originally planned to do with the premine. Not a playground, but something related to community service -- food pantry, some funds for small businesses, that sort of thing. Basically use the premine for something the group could use, rather than give each individual 1000 maza. It's so much more problematic to hand out crypto to every single person, and it doesn't help if the people don't know what crypto is nor have a way to use it. The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that the developers won't post here. I mean, people spent like 3 days fighting off FUD (and I mean real FUD, not just normal concerns) --the android artifact thing, Herp going insane, etc. and yet nobody from the maza team would say a word here in the forums. That, and then I saw the MZC water challenge on youtube (my basic reaction to it was wtf)... I realize many here may want Payu to go jump in a lake at this point, but I'd think he could use his time much more wisely to help the coin. I don't think maza is a scam. I just question whether the developers have any idea what they are doing. Forget food pantrys and the like, they can be polarising, a lot of people resent handouts to adults. Publicity is in sex, animals and children - in that order. Horses for courses... it is not the sausage/bacon it is the sizzle... whoever said that did not hail from Saudi Arabia. |
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The coin is very very new! There is nothing surprising , as in bad surprising that is happening here at all ! all pretty standard, I posted weeks ago I thought we were going down from there...
The devs and the coin are doing exactly what it was said they would do, and there is a lot more to come...
All the rest, is just bullshit.
I got in early.. and I am staying, nothing has changed yet.
Early days , there is work to do though that I agree- but then that was ALWAYS going to be the case.
Hope everyone with their head screwed on knows the score with Cryptos by now... this coin is a mere few weeks old... anyone claiming they
know its future already and it is 100% going to fail is a total and utter ego maniac BS artist... anyone that claims that this coins is doing anything that I have not seen pretty much every crypto do since the start of crypto, is a bs artist.
Take the fud with a pinch of salt..
Happy trails.
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Lol, nobody here has sold so you being some cool tuff guy saying you got our money is incorrect. But if that makes you feel better then go for it.
OMG! I made 3.7BTC profit on Maza, it's in my wallet, where do you think it came from? Really, if this is your understanding of economics and markets, you shouldn't be here. I'm not cool and I'm not "tuff"..... I do use a calculator though. Not from me! Also, if you think $2k profit is something to be proud of, then you're a little fish. I can lose $20k and not lose sleep over it. So applause for you 3.7 btc profit. You da man! Once you start earning 7 figures a year then come gloat. Yes, my profit came from you, you lost it the moment you handed your BTC over for Maza - are you really that daft? I am a little fish, a little fish with a 200%+ profit - what are you, a rich moron throwing money away? Why not just give it to the Lakota people directly? It's a good job you don't lose sleep over $20k, it must happen a lot. Like I said, you joined a cult. That's good point -- donate to Lakota directly. Not some scums doing this to us ! ? scums? Doing to us? I have not had any scums, doing anything to me ... not sure what has been happening your side of the screen? |
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also FYI
if there is a whale and if the devs change the diff or algorythm... there is a high probability it will trigger a pump....
the real whales dont show there hands .... it would be the best time for the whale to make his move...
and most ppl will think is was only from the change of diff and not manipulation.....
also teh tweet about fontas waiting for the tribe leaders to approve forget about...
check my previous posts its politics they cant lose their federal funding....
its like expecting a drug addict to stop cold turkey...
it doesnt work that way you have to slowly ween thim off...
hold the line...
maza tov
MOLON LABE
They are going to lose their federal funding though.. it is only a matter of time... so best for them to make the change sooner than later... how much longer do you think the musical chairs can last in the US? and when it finally happens it will not just be national parks and memorials that do not have federal funding any more... |
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I love the way that a week or two in and people are writing the coin off already... yeah... ok , I have not watched every single crypto pretty much since 09, and ok none of them have ever had anything like this ever happen to them... no major cryptos never spiked and crashed and lost 99% of their value... no, this coin is special apparently, not like any other coin, this one has no chance, less chance than any other coin ever... it has nothing behind it at all, there is nothing to see here...It is dead, sell all of your coins, 1 week in and all is lost... this is a failure... if you keep your coins they will go into negative value and then you must kill yourself in public with a lobster, and every other coin that is showing red on your coin list, sell them all, give them awayy actually, especially coins that are over 1 week old and have failed... you ave been robbed!!! robbed !!! did you not see the man with a gun he put it to your face and insisted that you buy coins and then 1 week later at the first downward price action, you must give them to him... nothing to see here...
Please just delete your hard drives, and disconnect from the interweeb, shut down the electricity , go and live in a cave...
We have been warned by the experienced traders, that every coin they ever owned has only gone up in value... and it did so form the very first day.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
sell sell sell sell sell !!!!
DO not ever take any type of risk in the cryptocurrency world, and do not ever invest, just day trade and everything will be fine.
puke.
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There are some jumpy people around.... must be pretty new to crypto... or just bullshit merchants.
(oh and there are defo some bullshit merchants here, dear god)
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Any lower and the incentive for miners is greatly reduced. Maza actually has decent BTC volume in trades across most of the exchanges. Consistently over 30 BTC, that's pretty good considering most have 3-4 btc a day.
How do you compute? Is that 1 exchange or all of them? What's the daily Mazacoin volume then? Last 24hrs approx 130 BTC through the exchanges Cryptsy,MintPal,SwissCEX , does not inc Cryptorash as their stats be down I dunno how much trade Kimitsu Asset Management are carrying. Now it makes sense! that 130-150 BTC volume is about 9 million MZC daily: of that miners are dumping 3.6 million newly born MZC That's why we keep sliding every day -- 40% of daily supply are always new coins! each day damn that does not include cryptorush and it is only the last 24hrs |
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Any lower and the incentive for miners is greatly reduced. Maza actually has decent BTC volume in trades across most of the exchanges. Consistently over 30 BTC, that's pretty good considering most have 3-4 btc a day.
How do you compute? Is that 1 exchange or all of them? What's the daily Mazacoin volume then? Last 24hrs approx 130 BTC through the exchanges Cryptsy,MintPal,SwissCEX , does not inc Cryptorash as their stats be down I dunno how much trade Kimitsu Asset Management are carrying. |
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There are too many coins for it to go back up, about 40 mil every week are being minted.
which would be approx 25,000,000 per week.FIFY So that's how Payu is calculating his $1 / MZC target -- all we need is this $ 25 million per week infusion into the currency about 40000 BTC right ? BUY BUY BUY ! The minting figures you guys are posting assume everyone holding MZC is minting coins. This is not the case. I would reckon most don't mint MZC just like PPC.
5000 MZC are born every 2 minutes the 1st year -- mazacoin.org That gives 5000*30*24*7 = 25200000 new MZC per week Payu is targeting $1 / MZC so that's $ 25.2 millions new dollars need to be sunk into this coin each week ! we must update the logo ASAP ! Oh we are talking apples and oranges then... you are talking the first year, and I was averaging out the total over 5 years...I realise the coin flow will not be steady...and less should be mined as each year passes... and I had not remembered 5000 MZC are born every 2 minutes the 1st year, so yeah that makes sense. ... edit.. I cannot see what the Lakota have to lose from doing this... which is why I think they will... Are you sure Payu is Lakota? I don't understand genealogy much but tribes say he's not on any record. But I feel he loves sticking it to the white man nonetheless ! BUY BUY BUY What has that got to do with the post? nothing. I think what Payu is , is from a Northern Cheyenne tribe, I think I do not know.. or err care, I thought there was some mention of him being a honorary Lakota, but again I really could not care less if he is or if he is not- they know who he is, he knows who he is.. that is what matters. Also methinks that looking forward, the ideal would be the birth of a "Republic of Lakotah" nation and the "h" is not a mistake or a mis-spelling... Russell had a dream and many other people along with him... lets see if anything can come from their ideas/work. |
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There are too many coins for it to go back up, about 40 mil every week are being minted.
which would be approx 25,000,000 per week.FIFY So that's how Payu is calculating his $1 / MZC target -- all we need is this $ 25 million per week infusion into the currency about 40000 BTC right ? BUY BUY BUY ! The minting figures you guys are posting assume everyone holding MZC is minting coins. This is not the case. I would reckon most don't mint MZC just like PPC.
5000 MZC are born every 2 minutes the 1st year -- mazacoin.org That gives 5000*30*24*7 = 25200000 new MZC per week Payu is targeting $1 / MZC so that's $ 25.2 millions new dollars need to be sunk into this coin each week ! we must update the logo ASAP ! Oh we are talking apples and oranges then... you are talking the first year, and I was averaging out the total over 5 years...I realise the coin flow will not be steady...and less should be mined as each year passes... and I had not remembered 5000 MZC are born every 2 minutes the 1st year, so yeah that makes sense. If the time comes when ink and paper meet and if this get signed off as an official currency.. then the $ will really really flow. Thinking about it.. what have they got to lose? I cannot see why they cannot officially say they have adopted Maza as an official currency in their eyes, and that it is their currency, but they will also continue to use and recognise and accept $ - that way they do not challenge anything so much, they just add an addition to their laws, for their people, I imagine there are other laws that they take quite seriously that outsiders do not care about or have to abide by. If they adopted the currency in this way, then if the fed gov were to react in a heavy handed way then that would be seen as most as childish and as just a way of keeping the boot to their throats.. why not help and encourage this and in turn the Lakota I say. Plus with NY regulators handing out applications for exchanges... the FED gov should really really just give the Lakota 100% free reign, let them try and fail... if it means that they can pull themselves out of poverty, and build something then that would be good for all .. good for the gov- no more handouts, less to do/be involved in, one less worry... and a new "neighbour" plus the world would actually be very impressed at this behaviour from the USA- the Lakota would really benefit if this all worked out well, the crypto currency world would have another rather special enclave...... what bad could really come of it for the US gov? come on... when you take everything into account, they have far far far far bigger problems!! they should welcome this with open arms! it would be very forward thinking.. and win win. edit.. I cannot see what the Lakota have to lose from doing this... which is why I think they will... Also those handouts that everyone keeps talking about... they are not long for this world anyways! and the Lakota.. apart from wanting to build something for the future on their own lands, must know that.. the handouts are not long for this world!!! Edit: If this is what they want to do, actually the world (err Europeans/"the settlers"?) should do everything they can to make it happen for them... they are OWED far more than that in my eyes. |
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There are too many coins for it to go back up, about 40 mil every week are being minted.
which would be approx 25,000,000 per week.FIFY So that's how Payu is calculating his $1 / MZC target -- all we need is this $ 25 million per week infusion into the currency about 40000 BTC right ? BUY BUY BUY ! ?? am I missing something TOTAL 2,400,000,000 over 5 years. per year (divided by 5) = 480,000,000 1 years worth per month (divided by 12) = 40,000,000 1 months worth Per week (divided by 4) = 10,000,000 1 weeks worth Per day (divided by 7) = 142,8571.429 1 days worth It would be better to work out the week rate by dividing the year by 52 , or the the day rate by dividing the month by 4.3 and various other blah blah... but seeing as the figures are averaged out, not worth it. |
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"This coin has been the worst investment I have ever made, there are loads of bag holders left on this one."
-> It is a VERY hard to keep a coin like this. It should be sold at the top and bought back from the dip. But if u have hold allready all the way down, why not to hold all the way back up?
- Tomi
There are too many coins for it to go back up, about 40 mil every week are being minted. I thought that there were to be approx 2,400,000,000 over 5 years which would be approx 480,000,000 per year which would be approx 40,000,000 per month which would be approx 10,000,000 per week.which would be approx 142,8571 per day which would be approx 59,523 an hour which would be approx .......... na only kidding. I know there will not be a smooth averaged out flow of coins... but just to keep it simple.. |
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Really love these !! Silver and bronze look great... I understand that the colours are important though... great work. |
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As for you, I will just have to take your word for it... Which is why I didn't bothering answering the first N times people asked, because the immediate reaction will be not to believe me anyway, so why bother? Oh please... it was a genuine quesiton, and coudl have had multiple answers... I did not know your reply in advance.. and the reason you have no answer before is now obvious because there is no answer, what you are saying makes no sense- and also old chap you are literally in the way... so do the good thing , you know what that is right? be a good chap then!
If you really do have no interest in Maza - then do you have an interest in me? Absolutely none whatsoever. Well stop talking stuff at me/us then, we can read, we have read, we have seen, our eyes work, you are not my mum, and you have no interest in me (nor the rest of us by extension) nor the coin so back to the only rational quesiton left in this conversation with you... why are you still here???
If you have no interest in Maza- why should people have an interest in what you have to say about it? Something doesn't become true or false based on the interests of the person saying it. - 1000% agreed old chap! read that back to yourself - and a person does not spend hours days time and effort going on and on about something he has no interest in... |
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Yeah to be honest ... really not worth wasting your breath or time... they are obviously paid shills... without 1 iota of a doubt - no one apart from the mentally deficient or ill would spend days posting about a coin they have no interest.
These guys are everywhere these days (not just in Cryptoland) you can even if you keep a close eye out and in the right places and know what to look for, see adverts for carrying out such work.
"The sky is pink" as they say.
The funny thing is they have not quite fine tuned it yet, and so all they have is brute force - repeat repeat repeat repeat... and that is when they give themselves away.....
As easy to spot as a fake buy wall and just as common.
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Brandon Ecoffey is the user neruromode. The one claiming there was no android wallet and they photoshopped pictures to fake it.... how did you work that out? had come out at some point in the old thread really? |
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Since you will not directly answer me for some reason... Why do you?
I get annoyed when people repeatedly post false information, so I correct them.
I hold no MazaCoin, I have no intention of ever holding any MazaCoin.
I have no MazaCoin derivatives or other instruments.
It makes no financial difference to me one way of the other what the price of MazaCoin is.
I'm guessing the same isn't true of you?
Do you now agree that the title of this thread is incorrect?
Yeah... well done I own some Maza- hence my interest in Maza - hence me posting and talking about Maza -all very logical - makes sense- and is true... I think everyone can follow that right? As for you, I will just have to take your word for it... you got nothing better to do than post stuff against Maza... for no reason, other than for good right? ok that makes sense that is logical..... may I ask are you as active in helping combat the "lies" on the rest of this forum or is Maza your only "anti-cause" If you really do have no interest in Maza - then do you have an interest in me? If you have no interest in Maza- why should people have an interest in what you have to say about it? Do you really not have anything better to do ? (fair play if you do not... just seems.... really really odd man you know? really odd... as in does not make sense... there are literally hundreds of coins I have no interest in... and you know how many times I have posted , scratch that spent days and days posting about them? err well .... none!? err why would I ? errr well I would not would I? errr well no? no I would not... nor would anyone else) there really is sound logic in there... that everyone can follow. So I am afraid old boy that I just do not trust you... (also if it helps the shining white knight within - I really really trust no one.... not you nor Payu... and I know a LOT more about Payu than I know about you) |
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Your right it is simple your digging really deep to make a point that can't be made. It's obvious it's not official no one is denying that. Well there is the pesky First Sovereign Currency claim in this very thread title. You never answered my question I noticed... what is your interest? are you an onlooker, an investor or a white knight? I canny see why you think the title of this thread is "pesky" or of any interest to you..... if you do not own Maza or have an interest? |
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Which bit is dubious? Also Sussex , just out of curiosity what is your interest in Mazacoin? are you an onlooker, an investor or a white knight? just curious |
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