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3101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we remove @Bitcoin on twitter on: May 11, 2018, 10:09:36 PM
Bitcoin cash is ... coin where early investors always win.

Of course, in the case of Bitcoin Cash, 'early investors' is synonymous with 'everyone who (actually) held Bitcoin in August of last year'
3102  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2018, 02:53:59 PM
OK, that's it. Jimbo doesn't get to go to Mexico any more.
3103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2018, 02:52:54 PM
Bcash down 13%. PeterR and jbreher also noticeably absent. Where's your god now?

Still here.

7 Day stats: BCH down a little less than 5%. Unfortunately. BTC down a little more than 10%.

Actually, in the last 24 hours, I've bought dozens of BCHs and a handful of BTCs. Another benefit of my trading strategy is that it naturally accumulates when price goes down, and monetizes when price goes up. It takes a little of the sting out of down markets.

Of course from an emotional standpoint, I'd like to see nothing but up, up, up. But it is in the volatility that I make the corn.
3104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2018, 01:42:15 PM
OK, the slow death of Dash must be painful,

Dash deserves to die.

Fun factoid: On a United flight Monday evening, on the seat-back in-flight entertainment [sic] system, what would be playing but a three-minute commercial for Dash? Weird.



Second time I saw this. First time was back in Jan. Long running campaign. Of course, whatshisname has a near-unlimited budget for that, what with the massive instamine, and the likely owning of 99% of all masternodes.
3105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2018, 01:31:10 PM
we have never had a technology that has fit into such a niche that is so likely to cause a lot of societal changes that are difficult to know in these early days

I am the god of hell fire, and I bring you!
Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you burn!

You've fought hard and you saved and earned,
but all of it's going to burn.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time, burn your mind,
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no, oh no, oh no, you're gonna burn!

Fire, to destroy all you've done.
Fire, to end all you've become.
I'll feel you burn!

You've been living like a little girl,
in the middle of your little world.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time, burn your mind,
you're falling far too far behind.
Oooooooooooooo.

Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, I'll take you to learn.
You're gonna burn!
You're gonna burn!
You're gonna burn!
Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn,
burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, ahhhhhhhhh
Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, I'll take you to learn.
Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, fire ahhhhh...

- Fire performed by Arthur Brown
- Songwriters: Jacob Louis Plant

As merely counterexample one.


You are just in a feisty argumentative mood, it seems. 

I would not categorize fire the same as bitcoin, in that fire was likely discovered and learned ways to harness fire; however, fire existed prior to various discoveries in how to harness it. Sure, you could argue that bitcoin and math existed prior to discovering it, but it seems that we are getting caught in the weeds of arguing for the sake of arguing rather than really making some kind of meaningful counter-point that undermines the importance of what bitcoin is really bringing to the table and its potentialities.

Just a fun way of pointing out your exaggeration. I agree that Bitcoin will likely bring about vast societal change. But the most of any technology ever? Fire? Wheel? Aqueducts? Agriculture? Sanitation? Wheel? Printing Press? Electricity? Mechanization? Radio? Internet?
3106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - Hard Fork 15 May 2018 on: May 08, 2018, 11:00:37 PM
guys, have you seen this?
http://onepunchforver.com

I have now. Pretty fuckin' juvenile. Looks to be a thinly disguised money grab, built to take advantage of righteous indignation.

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Does Roger know about?

I'm guessing he will in the next 9 days. How successful do you think this open threat by two yahoos will be - in light of the fact that their intent is public, and their target has essentially unlimited funds to procure protective services?
3107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2018, 09:57:04 PM
% of supply owned by the top 100 accounts, standouts:

Sooo.... what's the definition of 'account'?
3108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2018, 11:48:53 AM
In the long run it won't matter, the buy-and-hold retail investors will FAR outnumber the manipulators' ability to swing the market.

'Zackly. That's what I'm saying.
3109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2018, 11:46:09 AM
we have never had a technology that has fit into such a niche that is so likely to cause a lot of societal changes that are difficult to know in these early days

I am the god of hell fire, and I bring you!
Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you burn!

You've fought hard and you saved and earned,
but all of it's going to burn.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time, burn your mind,
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no, oh no, oh no, you're gonna burn!

Fire, to destroy all you've done.
Fire, to end all you've become.
I'll feel you burn!

You've been living like a little girl,
in the middle of your little world.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time, burn your mind,
you're falling far too far behind.
Oooooooooooooo.

Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, I'll take you to learn.
You're gonna burn!
You're gonna burn!
You're gonna burn!
Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn,
burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, ahhhhhhhhh
Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, I'll take you to learn.
Fire, I'll take you to burn.
Fire, fire ahhhhh...

- Fire performed by Arthur Brown
- Songwriters: Jacob Louis Plant

As merely counterexample one.
3110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
Usually the intent of a seller is to actually sell their coins, not to manipulate the market and "hold it down".

Here's another example of the fantasy world that you seem to live.

Huh Surely, you can't be serious. Or are you just tweaking Torque now with your feigned conspiracy theory?

TLDR: It is nearly as crazy to assert that the whole market is manipulated, as to assert that no manipulation exists at all.  I am not taking either of those extremes, and I am largely just calling bullshit on your cousin, tera bera's assertion, that no holding the price down manipulation exists.

Thanks for the tl dr, though it still be tl.

 AAR, you are putting words in the mouths of others. Again. Look at TERA's quote above. It does not open with 'Always'. It opens with 'Usually'.
3111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
Governments are [some of] the people,

FTFY
3112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2018, 01:36:16 AM
Bcashers being bcashers

Yes they studiously avoided addressing the https://www.bitcoinabc.org/2018-05-07-incident-report/ 'trusted miners' fiasco which was linked here earlier on.

What the hell is there to address? There was a bug. It had the potential to fork the chain. It got reported. It got analyzed. It got fixed. It got distributed. Chain did not fork due to the bug.

If I'm not mistaken, that's about the sum of it. What am I missing?
3113  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2018 Cryptocurrency Crash (Elliott Wave) on: May 08, 2018, 01:26:11 AM
after this recovery perhaps a new heavy correction towards the final objectives of 3000-4000 $, which indicates Elliot.

So what makes 3000-4000 $ the 'final objectives'? And why does this indicate Elliot?
3114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 06:50:16 PM
I guess if I wouldn't have had these monthly buying needs I would have been out already.

Interesting. I can't see myself ever as out.
3115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 06:38:37 PM
Why is btrash doing so well ?
Probably because of the upcoming fork.
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Proponents are looking forward to a 32 MB block size increase and op-code additions that could bring ethereum-like characteristics to the BCH network.

Jesus Titty-Fucking Christ.

The cancer that is BCash cannot die soon enough, along with Roger Ver.
Bigger blocks is a good thing. The problem is that they are being deceptive cunts. If we had chosen big blocks and they had chosen segwit, we would still think the same thing about them, and for the same reason. And be applauding ourselves for making the correct choice.

It's the people, not the tech.

Perhaps, but we do have better tech.
By what metric? Not interested in having that debate, but it needs to be backed up by something.

Regardless of that, if the tech were reversed we would be talking about how they overly complicated things. Humans feel first and then rationalize. Especially in this sort of tribal spat.

So there is no perfect simulator in existence yet solving all that questions.

We need to try it - that's done with open source / markets.

Sure, that's the definitive probe. But if one is going to make a bald claim, one should expect to be called on it.

So what's the evidence?
3116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 06:35:14 PM
Usually the intent of a seller is to actually sell their coins, not to manipulate the market and "hold it down".

Here's another example of the fantasy world that you seem to live.

Huh Surely, you can't be serious. Or are you just tweaking Torque now with your feigned conspiracy theory?
3117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 06:12:42 AM

Yet we have known since Adam Smith that the hidden hand of the marketplace will ensure that the optimal solution is arrived at by letting prices find their own equilibrium. This has been more formalized in more recent times in that the price and quantity of a good will be set at the point where the demand/price curve and the supply/price curve intersect. Further still, dead losses are incurred any time production quotas are enforced. Given this, why do you assert the utility of a production quota on transaction throughput? Why not trust miners to set the tx throughput supply to maximize profit under the demand and supply curves?

The reason BTC price rises so much is unlike most commodity markets the supply is fixed and not subject to oversupply as much as a normal market that will increase production to match the increased profit available.   

You seem to be conflating the supply of BTC with the supply of space in BTC blocks for transaction inclusion. Two very different goods.
3118  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 05:27:01 AM
If you can't bare to refer to BTC as Bitcoin, then just refer to it as BTC here. Fair enough?

Sure. I can refer to BCH as BeeCash.


Fix your quote, becoin (BeeCoin?). I didn't say that.
3119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 05:20:43 AM
It's necessary. Just a matter of when.

I'm not saying BTC doesn't need to eventually move over to larger blocks, but I support their slower, safer, forward-thinking, incremental approach to things.

I'll grant that Core's approach to scaling is slower than Cash's, but it certainly ain't safer.

Core is the name of the WALLET you trolling fuck.

True to form. Do you feel your statement has shown my assertion to be false? Because your reply is a mere irrelevancy.

You obnoxious fuck.  Roll Eyes

What do you expect? I'm sure if I decided to post in the BCH thread and called it BCASH, all of your friends would jump down my throat.

Maybe. Personally, I just shrug it off. It is yet another irrelevancy meant to divert from the substance of dialogue. By calling it Core, I wasn't meaning to denigrate BTC. I erred. Sorry.

Though cAPSLOCK is still an obnoxious fuck.

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If you can't bare to refer to BTC as Bitcoin, then just refer to it as BTC here. Fair enough?

If I do, can I expect that others will refrain from calling BCH BCash?

Yeah - that's what I thought.
3120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 07, 2018, 04:47:18 AM
It's necessary. Just a matter of when.

I'm not saying BTC doesn't need to eventually move over to larger blocks, but I support their slower, safer, forward-thinking, incremental approach to things.

I'll grant that Core's approach to scaling is slower than Cash's, but it certainly ain't safer.

Core is the name of the WALLET you trolling fuck.

True to form. Do you feel your statement has shown my assertion to be false? Because your reply is a mere irrelevancy.

You obnoxious fuck.  Roll Eyes
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