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3101  Bitcoin / Press / Re: NEW articles in Press Forum on: November 30, 2012, 12:17:18 PM
2012-11-30 businessweek.com - Dollar-Less Iranians Discover Virtual Currency

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128534.0
3102  Bitcoin / Press / Re: NEW articles in Press Forum on: November 30, 2012, 12:09:05 PM
2012-11-30 marketoracle.co.uk - Sinister Implications of the Cashless Society

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128533.0
3103  Bitcoin / Press / 2012-11-30 marketoracle.co.uk - Sinister Implications of the Cashless Society on: November 30, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
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Sinister Implications of the Cashless Society
Politics / Fiat Currency Nov 30, 2012 - 03:57 AM

By: Patrick_Henningsen

Politics

Among the long list of items bundled by consensus reality merchants under the banner of ‘conspiracy theory’, is a world without cash – where technocrats rule over the populace, and everything and anything is exchanged via plastic and RFID chips.

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...Introduction of Parallel Currencies

There has been a lot made about the ‘cashless society’ in media, but this cannot fully happen until there is a cashless currency.

Every revolution needs a good crisis in order to germinate its seed. The cashless revolution is no different. It should be abundantly clear by now that the global financial meltdown has been engineered at every juncture of its unfolding by the very private central banks who expand and contract the money supply. A dollar or euro collapse will trigger a global economic crisis, which is a prime opportunity to introduce the next phase.

In the summer of 2012, at the height of the European Central Bank (ECB) ritualistic raping of the Greek economy, financial expert Max Keiser, alongside Mexican billionaire Hugo Salinas Price, traveled to Athens to promote the idea of a silver Drachma as a parallel currency to the ever-failing euro. In theory and in practice, this parallel currency was ‘sound money’ for individual Greeks and would allow them to retain some say in their financial destiny, and also allow them to accumulate real wealth. It should have caught on.  But this great idea did not go down well with media moguls and technocratic elites loyal to their overlords in the ECB, Wall Street and the City of London. Still, too many people remain unaware of how money is created, entered into circulation and how their private central banks control inflation, and Greece is no different....

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...Two new parallel currencies are currently being used exclusively within the electronic, or cashless  domain – Bitcoin and Ven.

Among the many worries Ben Bernanke listed in his speech at the New York Economic Club last week  was the emergence of Bitcoin. But don’t believe for a second that these digital parallel currencies are not being watched over and even steered by the money masters. Couple this latest trend with done deals by most of the world’s largest mobile networks this month to allow people to pay via a mobile ‘wallet’, and you now have the initial enabler for a new global electronic currency.

These new parallel cashless currencies could very quickly end up in pole position for supremacy when the old fiat notes fade away as a result of the next planned economic dollar and euro crisis.

Both Bitcoin and Ven appear on their surface to be independent parallel digital money systems, but the reality is much different. In April 2011, Ven announced the first commodity trade priced in Ven for gold production between Europe and South America. Both of these so-called ‘digital alternatives’ are being backed and promoted through some of the world’s biggest and most long-standing corporate dynasties, including Rothschild owned Reuters as an example, which should be of interest to any activist who believes that a digitally controlled global currency is a dangerous path to tread down....

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article37802.html

Is it just me or is the genneral new tone getting better?

Seems to me it has changed from "Bitcoin is the devils currency" to skeptical interest.
3104  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why do you use Bitcoin? on: November 30, 2012, 10:28:37 AM
1.

Because the Technology that is behind Bitcoin enables us to do trades directly between the supplier and the customer (goods and services) without the need of a middleman that basically provides the service of transferring funds and therefore takes his cut of the trade.

Bitcoin has the ability to do to Banks and fin. Service providers like Visa, Paypal, etc. the same as what E-Mail did to Post offices. They will still exist but will loose a lot of their business.

This will result in fairer pricing.

2.

Bitcoin is free Money (like Free speech).

It can't be controlled, devalued or frozen by a single entity. Everyone can do with his BTC as he pleases.

On a Global scale this has the possibility to democratize money and provide the people themselves with more power.
3105  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Wiederspruch gegen mtgox bitcoin trademark on: November 29, 2012, 08:22:35 PM
War ja klar, schnell einen Namen sichern und dann abkassieren.

Das dass erlaubt ist ist echt zum k***.

15.06.2011 den Namen Registriert, also 2 Wochen nach erscheinen dieses Artikels beim Spiegel: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/hacker-waehrung-bitcoin-geld-aus-der-steckdose-a-765382.html

ganz komischer Zufall.
3106  Economy / Lending / Re: [closed]Bad Idea on: November 29, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
Hey lurk,

as it really seems as that you should get help, why don't you sign up with a forum about this problem?

Or you just lurk (hehe) these and read the threads of people having the same problem and how they dealt with it? - This helped me a lot when I stopped smoking (after 13 years).

Here are two to get you started:

http://www.psychforums.com/gambling-addiction/
http://www.gamblersanonymous.org.uk/

Have much success in your recovery.
3107  Local / Deutsch (German) / Jemand Erfahrung mit Zoll und Bitmit? on: November 29, 2012, 07:45:33 PM
Hallo,

hat schon mal jemand etwas bei Bitmit gekauft, dass dann beim Zoll hängen geblieben ist?

Habe gerade Post vom Zoll bekommen, dass mein Paket dort liegt und ich doch bitte mit einer Rechnung vorbeikomme.

Wahrscheinlich hat die die Rechnung in BTC etwas verwirrt.

Ich freue mich ja irgendwie schon darauf dort mit meiner Rechnung die dann auch in BTC ist aufzutauchen und die netten Herren noch mehr zu verwirren.  Grin

Aber bekomme ich so meinen Artikel? Oder wäre es besser den Verkäufer zu kontaktieren, damit er mir eine Fiat Rechnung ausstellt?
3108  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition - Stop the Net Grab on: November 29, 2012, 07:24:19 PM
If you live in the EU or US (which 99% of this forum is)  everything already is monitored.

I always can get worse.

Bump, due to the importance of this issue.

~Bruno K~

Not sure if Phinnaeus being sarcastic, or he is really helping the petition.

Me neither.
3109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining altcoins for "profitability" is stupid. on: November 29, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
That is not a significant feature.  With litecoin it takes 24 blocks to get the same security on your transaction as bitcoin does in 6 blocks.  There is no way to speed up time.

Exactly, it makes no different if you need one hour with 51% to get ahead 1 Block or 15 Minutes with 51% to get ahead 1 Block, oh wait. Does this mean Litecoin is actually less secure? (Note: No actually calculation did, number are definitely wrong).

Also, to the Topic:

If everyone did just get into Alternate coins right now due to the profitability, meaning immediately exchanging them for BTC. That would drive down their value near to zero pretty fast. Some currently have value due to miners not exchanging all of them.

So I agree, mining altcoins solely for "profitability" is stupid.
3110  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] Donate to Wikipedia with Bitcoin on: November 29, 2012, 05:04:43 PM
Donated 1$ to express my interest.

Real donations to come as soon as they officially accept Bitcoin.
3111  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [BOUNTY] 1BTC for hardware wallet name on: November 29, 2012, 01:09:24 PM



Year! "Vault 13" would be brilliant.
3112  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition - Stop the Net Grab on: November 29, 2012, 10:30:58 AM
The Conference itself is no secret, but it will be held in secret.

No Media allowed.


And thanks for signing.
3113  Other / Meta / Re: Can we stop this sort of idiocy? on: November 29, 2012, 10:27:59 AM
Seriously.

Do the moderation team have ANY ideas on how to keep this from happening?

Take away the "Thread lock" button. There's a reason why other forums of this size do not offer that option to users.

Agree, only mods should be able to lock / unlock threads.

A thread gets locked because it's ended, or because it's an announcement without comments required. One could always ask a mod to do this.

This kind of behavior we see here is the like child screaming at each other and then covering their ears when the reply comes. Ridiculous.

Also, this is a forum, not a block. There is no need for a function that enables you of post-->lock, unlock-->post-->lock ect.
3114  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: ?kredite in bitcoin? on: November 29, 2012, 09:31:19 AM
Hallo zusammen,

es ist aus meiner Sicht durchaus vorstellbar, dass es irgendwann so etwas wie BTC-Kredite geben wird, die in Bitcoins aus- und wieder zurückgezahlt werden. Das ist dann im Prinzip nichts anderes wie sogenannte Fremdwährungskredite, die es schon immer gegeben hat.

So ist es z.B. möglich sich einen Kredit bei einer Bank in Schweizer Franken gewähren zu lassen. Da die Zinsen in der Schweiz immer noch niedriger sind als in Deutschland kann das durchaus Sinn machen. Problem ist nur, wenn der Schweizer Franken gegenüber dem Euro aufwertet (=teurer wird) und ich dann mehr Euros zum Umtausch in Schweizer Franken aufbringen muss, um meinen Kredit zurückzuzahlen.

Ich persönlich würde es niemanden empfehlen derzeit einen Kredit in Bitcoins aufzunehmen, da ich (und vermutlich fast jeder) davon ausgeht, dass der Bitcoin-Preis weiter steigen wird. Wenn ich heute beispielsweise einen Kredit von 10 BTC im Gegenwert von 100,- Euro aufnehme und muss diesen Ende 2013 bei einem Preis von 20,- Euro pro BTC, also insgesamt 200,- Euro zurückzahlen (Zinsen noch gar nicht berücksichtigt), dann habe ich mit sprichwörtlichen Zitronen gehandelt.

Viele Grüße,
Oliver
Ja, lasst besser die Finger von Fremdwährungskrediten (das ist hoch riskant) und gilt auch oder sogar im besonderen für Bitcoin

Ein bisschen OT aber nur um es an einem Bespiel zu verdeutlichen.

Ich bin durch meinen Job recht viel in Ländern wie z.B. Ungarn unterwegs.

Ungarn ist ein Land, dass extrem heftig von der Finanzkrise getroffen wurde. Bis vor kurzem befand sich der Forint richtig gehen im Sturzflug.

Und jetzt kommt das schlimmste daran, Ungarn ist erst vor kurzem in die EU gekommen und war davor finanztechnisch relativ abgeschottet.

Was ist passiert als Ungarn in die EU gekommen ist? Schweitzer Banken haben Ungarn richtiggehend mit scheinbar günstigen Krediten überflutet. Die Menschen dort, an Planwirtschaft gewöhnt haben aus dem Vollen geschöpft, sich Häuser gebaut und Autos gekauft, alles mit Schweitzer Franken.

Jetzt durch die Krise ist der Schweitzer Franken gegenüber dem € gestiegen und der Forint gegenüber dem € abgestürzt.

Das Bild, dass ich jetzt sehe, wenn ich durch Ungarn fahre ist zu heulen. An jedem gefühlt 3. Haus hängt ein zu Verkaufen Schild und man sieht ganze zu Parkplätzen umfunktionierte Wiesen die voll sind mit konfiszierten Autos, alles Neuwägen.

Lange Rede kurzer Sinn. Fremdwährungskredite (auch Bitcoin) sind von zu vielen Faktoren abhängig als das man sie sicher planen könnte. Besser Finger weg. (Kurzzeit Mikrokredite sind evtl. eine Ausnahme).
3115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meanwhile in Macau..... on: November 29, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
Nice, I love the work you are doing.

What exactly was you speech about? As this seems to be some kind of Gaming Conference.
3116  Other / Off-topic / Re: Petition - Stop the Net Grab on: November 29, 2012, 06:16:37 AM
Bump - Nobody, really?

Well I guess Dank begging for a motorcycle is just more important.
3117  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin-Werbung @ TV on: November 28, 2012, 09:12:35 PM
Bin dran (hab leider einen Full Time job).

Letztes WE leider nicht zu etwas gekommen, dieses habe ich aber nichts vor.

Dann gibt's auch etwas. Die werden dann aber noch nicht perfekt sein.
3118  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Windows reinstall on: November 28, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
If you haven't made a backup of your wallet.dat File your coins are gone and nobody can help you.

Your address will only enable you to view you lost coins, sorry.

If you made only a quick format and not a real one, than there is still (very, very little) hope, with using a recovery tool. In that case don't install anything or copy any files. Don't use any discspace until you have gone over it with such a tool.

Try http://www.piriform.com/recuva as stated above and try to find a file called wallet.dat
3119  Other / Off-topic / Have you viewed block 210000 on blockchain yet? - nice on: November 28, 2012, 08:45:14 PM
Turn your speakers on.

http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000048b95347e83192f69cf0366076336c639f9b7228e9ba171342e?site=slush

 Cheesy
3120  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer Tag: Gineta on: November 28, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
I faile to see tha actual scam here, true the things you posted make Gineta look somehow fishy, but that's all.

No scam, no scammer tag.

The issue yo have seems as it could easily be claryfied in a discussion between you two.


Also Gineta:

This could be interpreted as threat against Kelticfox

This not avoid I go to go to your address. Like or not like to you. That is a free country
And I like to see you. How turn after the thinks. No idea all is question of your behaviour.
But not be chicken and stand in front of me  like a man.

I strongly encourage you to hold back from post like this.
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