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3101  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 21, 2016, 02:52:10 AM
I would hold out and wait patiently until the price rises back to what it was before.

At this very moment, holding and buying is the wise move. Selling bitcoins is not ideal because the price is going down at the moment, although only sell bitcoins that is above the price you bought it - by low, sell high is the way to go.

Price of bitcoin will surely bounce back and rise again - I see no reason it continue fluctuating downwards because people are investing and there are regular people who transacts bitcoin on a daily basis.
3102  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 21, 2016, 02:48:38 AM
At the end of the month when I get paid, the first thing I think about is buying more Bitcoin. Nothing feels better than seeing your wallet grow. This has helped me to stop spending my money on stupid shit like alcohol.
We must always put the goal for yourself. But the goal should be such that upon reaching it you feel fun and understand that this is what you needed. If you get rid of alcohol addiction as it is a huge plus and it is commendable and worth it.
Converting you negative activities to positive activities has always been good as it reflects into your life positively. I like what you do because instead of making more expenses in a month you are converting the expenses into the income generating activities which is investing in bitcoin.

That is the wisest thing to do - to spend money to things that can make you money compared to  just spending it to things that don't potentially earn back and to things that are liabilities. That is how good cashflow works - make the flow going on infinitely and not to things that will end up the process (pure expenses) Of course, there are things that we need to spend money as expenses like bills, foods, and the like.
3103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 21, 2016, 02:43:56 AM
I would rather choose to invest than gambling, they are both risky but investment has less risk compare to gambling. You can make profits in the long run from it just make sure that you are in a good and trusted company. I invest my bitcoin through holding...

Thats a right decision there pal, and almost users in here would have the same  answer to yours. Investment would be the best if you are planning   for a  good long term profit because in gambling you cant guarantee your money their because almost gamblers out there   lost their money in the end. Its better to hold   your bitcoin than to gamble.
If we all know how to invest and you have enough knowledge and enough money to start investing, why not try it? Becuase for me investing is not dangerous if you just know how it works, and for sure there are many people who will also guide us with our investment that is also investor too. They can also help us and they can give us an advice. Because gambing is only relying with our luck.

Yeah, investment do not make us to lose our money but it is only the lack of knowledge with which we are unable to manage our investment/business and so we lose there, before investment we have to make sure that in that particular field we are expert and we have good knowledge about that field otherwise we do not have to go there to invest.
Investing is always calm earning money with minimal losses. The risk of course is, but it is not comparable to the risk of gambling. Gambling can take all at once.

Usually gamblind will lead anybody to a loss, it can be a big or small but a loss, for other side investement will maybe allow you to roi, or atleast you are taking a lower risk doing it, if the roi doesnt happen atleast you had risked and you know you had try.

What do you mean "will maybe allow you to roi", its not like those ponzi or fake cloud mining scheme where you deposit and wait for roi, as i know you can divest any time you like from casino. If i earn 10% of my investment in casino i would be very happy, everything above is bonus.

Even those casino investment is still risky because you just invested your money on their and waiting for  a month to get your shares but  the risk is still there you wont guarantee  that it would last long unless its a famous casino online because some  casino site  ran and taking all money of the investors which is really bad.

There is still a ris in investing coins to online casinos. However, that risk is minimal compared to you betting on these gambling sites without any good plan and strategies. Fact is, the house always have the edge and when you are investing to the house, then you have greater chances of profit thatn playing against it.
3104  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: August 21, 2016, 02:41:31 AM
Is there really someone who actually hates bitcoin? In that case,  who in the world hates money? No one,  I guess. 
We can't live without money not of course we  value money above everything else but because in everything we do money is involved. 


That is correct. When a person who have no any knowledge about bitcoin stumble to accumulate one and then starting using the btc, then he will surely fall in love with bitcoins and definitely not hating it - that is for sure.
3105  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 21, 2016, 02:39:10 AM
It would be too risky to quit your job but it would be good for you if you would make use of bitcoin too.
Yeah! it is true that quitting our job is too risky as we might not succeed in focusing with bitcoin. Our job provides us a stable and consistent income while in bitcoin we might lose our money, that's the big difference for everyone who wish to go full time with bitcoin.

It is risky if you have no.actual plan to make steady income in bitcoin. But if you have a business or you are a good.trader, then you should have no problem transitioning from day job to bitcoin.

You can earn descent income from trading but only if you are expert in it and also if you have enough capital to start off, and if you don't then its better to keep it an passive income.

It is sad but it is true. You cannot just venture into trading without enough capital. You can start small but the income will not be enough to make a living out of it. But if you have enough capital and really good.at predicting the trend, then you can live comfortably using trading income.

So before we decide to quit our day job to do trading, we need to have a good amount of savings and capital for trading. Both are separate - savings is what you will use while you have no regular income while capital is the one that you will be going to use for your trading. Both must be separate of use.
3106  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: August 21, 2016, 02:30:16 AM
Yes. I am a strong believer and supporter of Bitcoin. I simply refuse to think that current price is the end of a road for BTC. There is still bright future ahead.
That is why I put my every penny into Bitcoin expecting a huge return of investment in the future. So far I am very pleased because I never lost any money.

Bitcoin will surely raise its price. The fact that its feature gives freedom to its holder and the ease of transactions gives a lot of convenience makes bitcoin as a very ideal investment for everyone. Also, there are big investors that are already in bitcoin space and there is no stopping from others to invest more.
3107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 21, 2016, 02:24:17 AM
   I`m surprised with all this comments!!! There is so many smart, stupid, funny, crazy, sad, ugly comments. Why this thread is still open for new comments, and more bullshit?
   Roughly there is 100 same comments of each suggestion, and each suggestion have couple confirmations. I wonder did OP read his thread until the end? And did he quit gambling finally?
   He need to tell us what happened in the end with his life and to lock this thread if its possible. There is no more place for any new suggestion as I can see.

Maybe the OP has completely quit from gambling and is now happily spending quality time with loved-ones in the bahamas or is now hiking in the mountain and just unplugged from technologies for awhile. Maybe, he will no longer open this thread again as he completely detach himself from all of this and now live a happy, hopeful, and meaningful life. However, here we are still giving advice to the OP Smiley
3108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: August 21, 2016, 02:08:17 AM
Hello guys I am addicted to gambling.How can I quit this?
Keep yourself busy by finding job or anything that make yourself busy so you have no time to play gambling. If you still not feel the effects. Seek for psychologist. I know gambling addiction is hard to control but think about your family and your future. You cant just gamble forever. Get a life mate. Dont waste your entire life.into gambling.

Totally agree with this. In order for us to get out from something that we are already addicted is to divert our attention to other more healthy and meaningful endeavor. It is like a glass of water full of water (that water is gambling addiction) we can't do anything about it unless we get that water out from the glass and replace it with a new one.
3109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gamble small amount i win and when i gamble big i loose. on: August 21, 2016, 02:05:11 AM
This may happen on casino sites or dice sites,yes they say provably fair but i dont believe that every casino is 100% in this thats why not many people win consecutive big wins there,but we see consecutive big losses.
But this kind of thing cannot happen in sports betting because no body can cheat you on there because this is happening in real world and you can watch live.But if this happens with you in sports betting then its only your bad luck.

In sports betting we also sometime face sports fixing, so we cannot say that there no one can cheat us.
By the for OP you have said right, as if he is also loosing when bet higher and winning when bet smaller then it is his luck, but still I will not call it his bad luck, as it is also his good luck that he at least win in something there are some people who often lose continuously no matter bet high or bet low.

Agree. There are just people who seem born very lucky and others born not very lucky at all. I've heard from a friend (although it is not verified) that they have a close friend who wins lottery three times but lost everything because their friend was defrauded by someone. That guy is very lucky. However, there are also people that no matter what they do to win, they just keep on losing and losing - whether in gambling or in life.
3110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 21, 2016, 02:01:30 AM
So for those people, hodling their money in the pocket would be the best way when inflation in not going like crazy. Putting money to the bank and gambling are pretty much the same then.

Actually putting your money in banks is a kind of gambling because in some countries they are not obliged to guarantee you any return, and you need to be satisfied with only recovering your devaluated money at the end of some period of time.
The gambling is not suitable techniques and strategies. Even the concept of luck is not gambling. If time does not stop what no methods will not help you. And really, no one to share with their secrets.
There are people who are willing to share their techniques to the public but for sure that method won't work because a technique that is working is not worth sharing for, I have been looking for that technique myself but until now I have found one.

There are gamblers that have found safe techniques to gambling - a combination of proven chances, sessions, proper bankroll management, and the like that they prefer to keep it to themselves up to their grave.
3111  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 21, 2016, 01:58:47 AM
Gold is something unknown for me cause i don't know anyting about earning money with gold, better to start working with bitcoins, cause i already know someting.

You cannot make money with gold on regular basis that you can do with bitcoin, in fact you can also earn bitcoin but with gold you have only option to buy it.

You also have the option to sell gold. Of course, you can also earn on a regular basis with gold - think of people who buy gold and make it to jewelry and sell it to jewelry stores in a wholesale price or sell it directly to consumers who loves jewelry.
3112  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 20, 2016, 07:01:16 AM
I don't believe that we can get steady income with bitcoin, cause it's very unstable currency and it's a problem, many people losing a lot of money everytime.

You have a point, theres no  stable income here in bitcoin because of its volatility and some works that pays bitcoin doesnt exist for so long unlike having a day stable job  theres a guarantee that it would last especially if you are in a good company. Treat bitcoin as a sidejob only not   a main source of income because you wouldnt know the problem in the future.
Sometimes a side job is very tempting to convert it into a full time job especially when you are earning more than you earn in your day job. I have a good earning in bitcoin but I will not quit my current job for now as I have not save enough for my future yet.

I should have than this before I quit my day job. However, since I am already into situation where I am right now, I hold accountability and full responsibility of my decision. I am still young though, I can still work for clients if these current projects of mine will not succeed.
3113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: August 20, 2016, 06:58:58 AM
gambling never made me cry, because i have a special strategy of gambling, i have a limit for gambling, when i reach to that limit i stop gambling any more for that day, therefore i can say that gambling never made me cry.

I admire people who can control their self or sets a limit in gambling.
Because gambling really isn't the only answer to have money.

That is right. One of the characteristics of a professional gambler is self-control and discipline. Without it, you will surely be easily eaten by casinos. Casinos profit to gamblers that are dictated by their emotions when gambling.
3114  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 20, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
There must be a reason why bitcoin price is dropping from $400 to $1. If the reason is something really bad, then it will not even worth $1 per coins (such as the encrytion has been broken or the network is not functioning anymore...)

If it is not something that bad, and price will still able to rebound, then people will grap as much as they can before it even drop to $1.
you are right!
I believe the bitcoin will not drop to 1$ forever!

It recently has no chances of reaching that extent as the community is increasing everyday and investors are investing as much as they can afford and until that cycle is running it wont be dropping there unless something really shocking and unbelievable happens that breaks it into parts.

yeah, no chance, even 100 usd is impossible. there are so many btc buyers, so we can hardly buy @100 usd. i would be extremely happy to buy 300 usd btc.
thats true, though if it ever happened i would buy a lot of bitcoins in order to make profit when the price returns back up

If bitcoin price would drop low like that  maybe theres a problem into bitcoin ecosystem. For those who  buy on high price would probably panic sell their bitcoin holdings especially to huge investors and they would  lost their trust  to bitcoins.How much more in buying in $1? maybe its a risky thing to do.
Yep and it hard to say it will really happen maybe many investor finds alternative coin better than bitcoin then all bitcoin investor shift to that coin. But obviously it's really hard to know what is the future of bitcoin.

For sure many big investors would find an alternative coin instead of bitcoin because  they saw bitcoin price declining and they would definitely think  that  the era of bitcoin would end here. Its really impossible for bitcoin to drop its price  low like that because  there soo much investors into it and also have many users on the past 7 years since it was born.

That is right. Most of all the investors will defintely turn their attention to other investment other than bitcoin when we get to that price. But for sure, there is no harm in investing a thousand dollar worth of bitcoins that time or 1000 bitcoins.
3115  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: August 20, 2016, 06:54:38 AM
If you're totally asking if we put all our money in bitcoin that's rude if you do that. And no one will do that because its too risky, and because the price bitcoin is to stable so there's no need to do that, you can put or convert your fiat to bitcoin but not all. And I never put or buy bitcoin ever since, I just making bitcoin  through signature campaign and with different service here in this forum and collect them and convert into fiat and use them to buy things in real life.

Putting literally all of fiat money to bitcoin is impossible because we still need to buy things and pay bills that only accepts fiat money. But I am pretty sure that the op means to putting all money to bitcoin is just the money saved and invested converting them all to bitcoin.
3116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 20, 2016, 06:52:04 AM
I hope someday I will win some jackpot and gambling is only way for me to become rich. I know it is hard to find someone rich from gambling as winners keep playing and loose all money even if win big. I will surely run and will never look back at gambling once I hit some big amount. I know how to control myself and will remain rich by that money.

i no longer even hope for that to happen Smiley
i gave up on the idea of gettin rich from gambling or even making a profit from gambling a long time ago when i lost a lot of bets and my bankroll was empty.
That was actually my first goal in gambling until such time I also give up because I have no chance to be rich, one of the hindrance to pursue is the lack of decent bankroll and lack of discipline sometimes, maybe it is better if I will just play it for fun and no more or less.

In the event that I will finally give up gambling, I will just play money online - that way, I am not losing anything. I am currently still gambling and no plan yet of quitting. I am still on the process of becoming a professional gambler. It is my choice at the moment and I am willing to lose through testing and soon reap my hard labor. When that time won't come, I'll be 100% providing services again to clients and just play play money.
3117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 20, 2016, 06:37:53 AM
do below 50 2x times, then above 2x and then repeat.

end in good mode.

when loosing  multiply x2

So you are thinking martingale is safe method for betting, when we go for chase after losing any amount than it could lead to get busted, so that I will do disagree with you for this strategy because that is not good method, but if we are lucky than anybody can make profit with these 100 rolls too.
Martingale would work if you are lucky but still in the long run you will still lose, remember that when a game has a house edge we will still lose no matter how lucky and good we are, maybe in sports betting it would work but impossible in dice in my opinion.

I am doing sports betting now and not done the martingale strategy yet. I only bet on games that will likely win and if lose, bet again to other teams that have higher chances of winning.

I have some losing bets and have not increased my bets to next games.. Interesting, I'll try martingale in sports betting now.
3118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 20, 2016, 06:24:18 AM
Family is very important every time in situations involving all addictions (or person that addicted person trust most). Thats why in the case of gambling, in my opinion the best solution is to give full control over your finances to a family member or the most trusted person.
But for me if you already have a family, be responsible enough for them, you don't need the help of one of your family member to save money because if your family is really important to you, you are the one who will actually think first for their future.
Especially when you are the head of the family, you will be obliged to do all the possible ways to earn money just to give them a comfortable life. We all dream to give the best to our children but we cannot do that if we do not have a decent income and I would suggest those who are married who has no enough money should not focus in gambling.

100% agree to this Zooplus. When you are just new to gambling and wanted to earn a living for the family through gambling, then better stop before you begin.

Winning online casino is not that easy - you need to have a lot of serious preparations before you can bet them and if you are just new to gambling, then you will surely fail even at preparation stage alone - chances are, you will have no preparation at all and just bet randomly - which is a sure failure very soon.
3119  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 20, 2016, 06:12:38 AM
It would be too risky to quit your job but it would be good for you if you would make use of bitcoin too.
Yeah! it is true that quitting our job is too risky as we might not succeed in focusing with bitcoin. Our job provides us a stable and consistent income while in bitcoin we might lose our money, that's the big difference for everyone who wish to go full time with bitcoin.

There are many people who are full time in bitcoin especially the traders who are making good money with it but to get full time on bitcoin you also need high capital to invest at initial stage.
Maybe you can say that because you are just hearing one side of the story, not all traders are making money because if that is easy we are all into trading now, it needs a good skills and knowledge to be successful if not we will just doing it like a gambling that we rely on luck alone.
Well agree with you not all trader are lucky to get more profit when they trade , other trader get big loss when they accidentally buy shit coin. And they just hold they coin even though there just loosing there capital but don't have a choice but to hold it than loosing so much money.
That is part of the journey in trading, there are coins that has a good potential to be big in the future but suddenly it becomes a shit coins and you will surely lose a lot of money if you do not know how to diversify your investment.

Diversifying your investment is the key in combatting some losses in your trades. Although I am not good yet in trading, (surely will within the year Smiley ) diversifying makes a lot of sense. Because if we put all of our eggs in one basket and that basket fell completely, then all of our eggs is gone.
3120  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 20, 2016, 06:06:47 AM
Do you use bitcoin as currency? Or you use bitcoin as investment? Or both?
I use bitcoin as currency and i never sell my bitcoin, but i prefer to use bitcoin when price is rising Grin

So, how about you?
For me I do both as a currency and investment. And I think almost of the bitcoin users are do bitcoin as investment and a currency. As investment because bitcoin price is not stable so its the advantage of it to buy at low and hold, or just sell it. and as a currency because as of now there's a lot online shops and even physical stores accept already bitcoin as there ways of payments.

That is the whole beauty of bitcoin. It just like hitting many birds in just one stone. All of its features are amazing. One of the many things I love about bitcoin is apart from it can be used as investment and as a currency, we can also easily deposit it in online casinos which compared to fiat money, bitcoins has no further waiting and requirements - bitcoin deposits is credited to your online casino account in an instant upon account creation.
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