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3101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change: Scientists test radical ways to fix Earth's climate on: May 26, 2019, 11:25:48 PM
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/claim-in-the-express-that-low-solar-activity-is-bringing-cold-weather-is-false/
Its all explained in there.  I'm not going to summarize it for you to miss the full context but here are a few important quotes.

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This headline (and the article below it, as scientists who reviewed the article detail below) misrepresents a NOAA press release by inventing a claim that appears nowhere in that source—the idea that a coming minimum in the Sun's natural 11-year cycle of solar activity will cause cold weather around the world. There is no evidence supporting this.

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The very top of Earth’s atmosphere (the thermosphere, 250 km up and above) is certainly influenced by solar activity. This is important for factors like orbital decay of satellites but has no implications for surface weather at all. It is a space weather effect not a terrestrial weather effect.

Please do not attempt to misdirect any more. I am not referring some NOAA press release (which you don't even quote a link for.)

First of all, this.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/news-articles/solar-minimum-is-coming

Grand Solar minima is coming. This has NO similarity to the solar minima which is a standard part of every 11 year solar cycle

The last time a Grand Solar minima happened it was accompanied by rather serious cooling. Ice skating on the river Thames in England.

Does that conclusively show cause and effect? Nope. But it's enough for serious concern. Global cooling is and will continue to be a subject of concern, because of the devastating effects an ice age would have. Or even a "mini ice age."

You and your links appear ignorant of the relationship between space weather and our climate.
Probably because "climatefeedback" is some semi-religious climate nonsense. It certainly isn't a peer reviewed scientific article, is it?

The CERN CLOUD experiments looked at this issue.

https://home.cern/science/experiments/cloud

You are either able to think your way rationally through these facts, experimental data and observations to a conclusion or you are not. If not, you certainly seem to be a denier.

Any rational person can see that some amount of warming of the planet by humans might be occurring and at the same time, other things could well be happening with opposite effects. Of course, a great many climate alarmists are not rational.


No one's disputing anything about solar minimum coming.  

The problem is that you have created your own link between that and global cooling. ...starting with the difference between the upper atmosphere and the troposphere....
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I have not made any statements or opinions that I cannot back up. Solar Minima is a regular occurrence. Grand Solar Minima is an entirely different thing!

Making links and connections between phenomena is called "Thinking."
Please don't just go do a quick Google and repeat some words and phrases that you don't understand, in an effort to make argument.
I've shown the connection between solar weather and Earth weather, quite concisely.

It is what it is. Deal with it.

You appear to be A DENIER of cosmic ray effects on Earth's climate, as established by CERN.

Why? Science isn't your enemy or your friend.
3102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change: Scientists test radical ways to fix Earth's climate on: May 26, 2019, 10:20:16 PM
We are moving to Mars and the Moon soon enough, who cares about climate change, if we really want to think about the future, we should focus on conquering more planets instead. An asteroid impact or other catastrophic accidents can happen at any time here, even nuclear wars.

It's beyond me why a fair sized group of people would obsessively focus on "climate change," and ignore many other serious threats to humanity, of which asteroid impacts may be the #1 threat.

Techniques exist to nudge space rocks away from hitting the Earth, but there is virtually no hardware or budget to do this. A rock that is inbound could kill a billion people or all of humanity, yet these fools babble about "climate change" and waste their time.

A rock that is nudged will have a 100% predictable orbital change. There is close to zero uncertainty as to orbits and what happens when one is changed.
3103  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change: Scientists test radical ways to fix Earth's climate on: May 26, 2019, 10:17:08 PM
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/claim-in-the-express-that-low-solar-activity-is-bringing-cold-weather-is-false/
Its all explained in there.  I'm not going to summarize it for you to miss the full context but here are a few important quotes.

Quote
This headline (and the article below it, as scientists who reviewed the article detail below) misrepresents a NOAA press release by inventing a claim that appears nowhere in that source—the idea that a coming minimum in the Sun's natural 11-year cycle of solar activity will cause cold weather around the world. There is no evidence supporting this.

Quote
The very top of Earth’s atmosphere (the thermosphere, 250 km up and above) is certainly influenced by solar activity. This is important for factors like orbital decay of satellites but has no implications for surface weather at all. It is a space weather effect not a terrestrial weather effect.

Please do not attempt to misdirect any more. I am not referring some NOAA press release (which you don't even quote a link for.)

First of all, this.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/news-articles/solar-minimum-is-coming

Grand Solar minima is coming.

The last time this happened it was accompanied by some rather serious cooling. Ice skating on the river Thames in England.

Does that conclusively show cause and effect? Nope. But it's enough for serious concern. Global cooling is and will continue to be a subject of concern, because of the devastating effects an ice age would have. Or even a "mini ice age."

You and your links appear ignorant of the relationship between space weather and our climate. Probably because "climatefeedback" is some semi-religious climate nonsense. It certainly isn't a peer reviewed scientific article, is it?

The CERN CLOUD experiments looked at this issue.

https://home.cern/science/experiments/cloud

You are either able to think your way rationally through these facts, experimental data and observations to a conclusion or you are not. If not, you certainly seem to be a denier.

Any rational person can see that some amount of warming of the planet by humans might be occurring and at the same time, other things could well be happening with opposite effects. Of course, a great many climate alarmists are not rational.

3104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change: Scientists test radical ways to fix Earth's climate on: May 26, 2019, 08:19:39 PM
None of the things you just got off of wikipedia conflicts with what I said but I'm not even asking you to trust that I am a climate scientist or anything I say for that matter.  I'm just asking you to trust the known consensus amongst climate scientists who you are calling wackos. 

You are taking all of those papers out of context and using them out of context to support a conclusion you made prior to even reading them.  That is why its pseudo science.

The "wacko" website has 19 climate scientists explaining the misconception you hold.  It is something that is designed specifically to help people with this sort of thing.  Imagine a guy with a random guy on a bitcoin forum reading a paper and noticing something that has fooled almost every pHd for their entire career.

Please explain why what solar scientists say about the Sun entering a quiet period, and it having effects on climate, is something you or anyone else should disregard.
3105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Blockchain the solution to gun violence? on: May 26, 2019, 01:50:07 PM
I'm all about banning guns. But, unfortunately, these are deeply engrained in America's society. I came across this article that talks about using blockchain to keep track of gun sales etc.

https://cryptotradernews.com/insights/the-president-wont-touch-it-politicians-ignore-it-is-blockchain-the-key-to-gun-control/


Thoughts?

After the third popup, I stopped trying to read your article.

3106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who thinks we will get a drink from a robot bartender in the near future? on: May 25, 2019, 09:27:08 PM
Have you ever thought that in the near future your drinks may be served by a Fully autonomous A.I. and robot empowered bartending unit? ....
I wonder how you think about this?
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Have you ever thought that in the near future your drinks may be served by a topless beautiful hostess serving as empowered bartending unit? ....
I wonder how you think about this?
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3107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 25, 2019, 09:25:34 PM
islam is a peaceful religion my friend
greetings in islam is assalamuailkum wich mean "peace be upon you", and the reply is waalaikumussalam wich mean "and upon you be peace"
Terrorism has no religion, there's no muslim terrorist, buddhist terrorist, christian terrorist, etc. But only people with radicalism/extremmist wich actually muslim, christian, etc.

Islam is a religion of peace for fellow Muslim but not for others. if terrorist has no religion then how come most terrorist are Muslims?
you can keep saying Islam is a religion of peace but your fellow Muslims actions says other wise. these actions comes from something
that they believe in. I admit that there are good Muslims but no matter what they say the Quran teaches violence against other religion.

Just more of that good ol' Takiyaa?
3108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: May 25, 2019, 12:29:47 PM
Cry Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists"  Should we say that? Cry Cry
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The problem with this thread is it attempts to define what people should or should not say.
3109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Blockchain the solution to gun violence? on: May 25, 2019, 12:28:47 PM
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The chances of someone killing children at a school with a spoon are very low, don't you think?

Confirmed kill with MRE spoon:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Ranger_Gets_Confirmed_Kill_With_MRE_Spoon/5-1836058/
3110  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange, Wikileaks co-founder, faces 17 new charges in US on: May 24, 2019, 11:41:33 AM
After the 2020 election, Trump should pardon Assange.

Why would Trump do that? (Serious question)
As mentioned, pardoning Assange will be politically unpopular. The best time to a politically unpopular move is immediately after an election because you are maximizing the time until you need to face voters again.

If Trump wins reelection, and only has a narrow majority in the house and senate, he might wish to wait until after the 2024 election because pardoning Assonge might inspire enough Republican congressmen to be upset enough so they become opposed to Trump's agenda. 
Meh, it still doesn't seem like a good reason. Why would Trump pardon the guy, that is definitely gonna keep digging under US government and sabotage his job? On one side we've got some mysterious inspiration for congressmen and on the other side we still get a real threat. I think their choice is obvious.
But at least now we see real accusations instead of claims that Julian raped someone.


The man on the street doesn't know or care about Assange. It's the Washington swamp that's out to get him. Ignore that Manning was pardoned by Obama...

Assange, right out in the open, tipped the 2016 election in the direction of Trump.
3111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Make America Great Again vs. Keep America Great? on: May 24, 2019, 11:37:53 AM
Donald Trump wants to know if you think he should change his slogan for his 2020 campaign.

Which do you prefer; should he keep it Make America Great Again, or change it to Keep America Great?

He seems to prefer the latter, and his justification is accurate.  Our economy is strong, and getting stronger.  Unemployment is historically low.  And lets be realistic, America is great and has been for a long time.  I like Keep America Great, and I like Trump in 2020.

I'd be reluctant to change MAGA given its proven track record in driving the other side absolutely nuts.
3112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Michael Avenatti arrested (report) again on: May 24, 2019, 02:31:26 AM
He has been charged with *more* crimes regarding money owed to Stormy Daniels.

I wonder how an attorney that stole money from a hot babe of a porn star would be treated in prison.



She isn't that attractive. Maybe 10 years ago (maybe). I would be more worried about what they think of sleazy lawyers if I were him lol.

You mean down in the big house they're going to put a blonde wig on him before they bend him over?
3113  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A world without borders? on: May 23, 2019, 04:25:36 PM
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Giving people a right to movement doesn't mean they can come into your private space.  False dichotomy.  We can have freedom of movement and personal privacy.  

Not so, look at the plight of the ranchers along the US border. They can't even go out without firearms.
3114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: May 23, 2019, 04:04:05 PM

what do you think?  

....suicide bombing is the signature of Muslims....

Any Muslims that disagree can certainly speak up.
3115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: May 23, 2019, 04:02:07 PM
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There is a persistent lie spread saying that nationalizing a market is making it inneficient and stupidly buraucratic.

Well sorry to say but difference between a nationalized market and a free but regulated market is, for health, 50% more costly for USA and extremely inequal system.


Socialism is horrible right?
Must be why Mick Jagger came to the USA for his surgery....
3116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Michael Avenatti arrested (report) again on: May 22, 2019, 09:23:59 PM
He has been charged with *more* crimes regarding money owed to Stormy Daniels.

I wonder how an attorney that stole money from a hot babe of a porn star would be treated in prison.

3117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: May 22, 2019, 09:19:03 PM
I do not hate Muslims. not every human being is bad right. even I have committed many crimes like when I was a kid maybe I also stole some candies from a shop. it's just your point of view of how you see a situation. some people will say they were bad and some will say they are not. but does it really changes something? even if they are bad are you doing anything to change them. are you there to teach them what the correct path is? no, you are just spreading some rumors which you heard from others.

Looks to me like numerous people here would teach them the correct path.
3118  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climate change: Scientists test radical ways to fix Earth's climate on: May 22, 2019, 02:08:51 AM
No one is discrediting the work of scientists.  I am discrediting the use of principia-scientific because it is a fake site.   Being able to find reliable sources is the key to being able to obtain knowledge from the internet.  I can point you in the right direction.
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/claim-in-the-express-that-low-solar-activity-is-bringing-cold-weather-is-false/
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/metros-claims-of-coming-mini-ice-age-have-no-basis-in-reality/
https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/ian-plimer-wrongly-claims-that-carbon-dioxide-emissions-do-not-cause-climate-change/

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You are no climate scientist, although you claimed to be. You don't even know the definition of climate change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change

Climate change occurs when changes in Earth's climate system result in new weather patterns that last for at least a few decades, and maybe for millions of years.

And you'r just pointing to a wacko website.

The actual articles on solar physics are readily available though.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10509-019-3500-9

https://link.springer.com/article/10.3103/S1062873817020411

https://www.northumbria.ac.uk/about-us/our-staff/z/professor-valentina-zharkova/

If you deny the science, you are a climate science denier, pure and simple.
3119  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A world without borders? on: May 22, 2019, 01:56:33 AM
Before today, I never read OP as a literal call to end borders.  I don't even agree with that.  

I always saw it as a call to end restrictions on human movement across borders.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't have passport control across borders but it doesn't mean we need that either.  I like to think of it as a global Schengen. When I travel within the US from state to state overland, I don't need to go through passport control.  The borders are still there and are still real.   I hardly need to get a visa to travel to most of the world.  

Giving people a right to movement doesn't mean they can come into your private space.  False dichotomy.  We can have freedom of movement and personal privacy.  

The climate change effect of millions moving into Europe is millions times the prior co2 production per year, subtracted from their expected future co2 production per year.

And that adds to well in excess of a billion tons of co2 for a ten year period or so.

Guilt and responsibility for that falls on the likes of you, who actively encourage such illegal immigration.
3120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google suspends Huawei's Android support on: May 22, 2019, 12:38:47 AM
Isn't it likely that china will reply by banning apple phones in china as a reply to the blacklisting of huawei?
It's likely to happen.

But, I think China is debating on whether they should go for a more severe move, like restricting rare-earth ore (used in phones) export to US, that would be far more devastating to Apple than their products being blacklisted in China.

I'm saying this because of the recent news about the chinese president visiting a rare earth factory[1]. That visit is far from being 'random', that's a power move from Xi.


1. https://www.businessinsider.com/trade-war-xi-jinping-rare-earth-factory-hint-cripple-us-tech-military-2019-5

The so called "rare earth elements" are really not so rare, and I do not think China restricting these will have any effect whatsoever on tech industry.
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