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3141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Response to Ben Laurie’s ‘Last Word’ on Bitcoin on: July 04, 2011, 06:10:22 PM
Oh, and Steve's paper has been refuted many times in many of the threads that he has posted it into.  Perhaps ridiculed would be a better word.

I wasted some time on it a couple of weeks ago.
3142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Response to Ben Laurie’s ‘Last Word’ on Bitcoin on: July 04, 2011, 01:48:03 PM
I tend to agree with the sentiment, if not the details, of lauries objection, i.e. that bitcoin should be made more efficient.

What I wish were possible is if proof-of-work could based on furthering some scientific endeavour – searching for life in space, folding protein chains, etc. I have NO idea how this could work technically, however. Perhaps something like, you chose which project you wish to support, and the open market trades that work into a fair amount of coins that you can then spend. Or something. I really haven’t though this through, it’s just a sentiment.

The reason you have no idea how it could work is because it can't work.  We hash the chain directly because it is impossible to fake the effort.  Using anything else opens the door for forgery.
3143  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Help wanted for New BTC exchange site on: July 03, 2011, 08:54:56 PM
No, I mean interfacing with whatever system you use to transfer currency in and out.  If it was dollars, you'd be using Dwolla and/or LR.
3144  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Help wanted for New BTC exchange site on: July 03, 2011, 07:55:11 PM
The bitcoin interface will be easy.  It is the currency APIs that will be difficult.
3145  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Mainstream Economists Lie About Deflation on: July 02, 2011, 12:19:33 AM
The arguments about debt are largely nonsense, in both directions.  As long as the rate of inflation/deflation doesn't change abruptly, that rate is figured into the loan at inception, or the loan can contain provisions for adjustments.

And if workers have a hard time adjusting to falling wages in a deflationary world, they are defective in the brain.  They will quickly come around as they realize that the alternative is for their wages to fall to zero abruptly as their employers replace them with non-defective workers.

I'm not sure what you mean about "in both directions."

It should be evident from the article that debt levels and interest rates will adjust themselves to optimal levels when the market is free to set rates and inflation is absent (which acts as an interest rate distorter).

Pumping artificial money into an economy artificially lower rates, which distorts the structure of production leading to booms/busts and debt bubbles. The less a money is inflated, the less interest rate distortion that can be expected to occur.  The ideal situation is to have no inflation of the money supply at all.

Deflation is bad for borrowers, inflation is bad for lenders.  What is bad for either of them is bad for lending as a practice.  So I'm just saying that an argument in favor of either one has a reciprocal argument that leads to the same conclusion.  Even worse, as long as whatever you have is reasonably predictable, the effects can be mitigated.  Any argument in the inflation/deflation debate that involves debt is therefor pointless to make or consider.

The distortion from having banks create money, and thus create inflation, is a secondary effect.  Markets have some lag, so any particular place that inflation or deflation hits first will be distorted in relation to the rest of the economy.  Invoking this argument is really an argument for or against some particular scheme of inflation distribution with regards to time, and not an argument in the inflation/deflation debate itself.  Unless it can be shown, and so far I don't think anyone has, that there is a distortion natural to all systems of inflation or deflation.

We probably agree philosophically, but I don't think these particular arguments are very strong.

For what it is worth, I prefer the bitcoin model with a fixed total money supply and no way to ever increase it.  I don't care so much about inflation or deflation, so long as it is the market making the decision, and not some guy or group.
3146  Economy / Marketplace / Re: need .05 quick loan on: July 01, 2011, 11:21:01 PM
Please, please tell us what this was for.  I imagine that there are about 60 people scratching their heads as they ponder this thread.
3147  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin silver 1oz custom coin... gauging demand on: July 01, 2011, 11:17:46 PM
Just out of curiosity, where do you get your silver planchets?  Or are they just coin blanks?
3148  Economy / Economics / Re: Mt Gox outragious 3% now, then 6.5% transaction fee on: July 01, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
making what mistake?
the transaction fee I post on the first post is based on the support ticket mtgox response.

Was just stating fact on what I learned from their CS team, and letting people aware that there are better options out there.
I was a big mt gox user, but their lack of service/competency have made me switch to tradehill.

Yup, and that is a mistake on their part.  A trivial mistake.  And a common one.  For example, Verizon's call center staff doesn't seem to understand the difference between 0.02 dollars and 0.02 cents.  Read more here.

Now how do you explain the gibberish I quoted before?

For the next 25 days or so, certain traders affected directly by the Mt Gox rollback have zero commissions.  That accounts for the historically narrow spreads.
Really? you would take zero commisions on a ROLLBACK?
Someone could have made millions buying them at $0.01.
Can you imaging the stock/forex market having to ROLLBACK?
Not that I bought any at $0.01, but Mt Gox should be the one footing the bill.
If they want to offer a trading platform, they better be tight on security and have tons of insurance.
Fact is, it is Mt. Gox fault, and in the end, they paid nothing for their mistake.
3149  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Mainstream Economists Lie About Deflation on: July 01, 2011, 08:39:37 PM
The arguments about debt are largely nonsense, in both directions.  As long as the rate of inflation/deflation doesn't change abruptly, that rate is figured into the loan at inception, or the loan can contain provisions for adjustments.

And if workers have a hard time adjusting to falling wages in a deflationary world, they are defective in the brain.  They will quickly come around as they realize that the alternative is for their wages to fall to zero abruptly as their employers replace them with non-defective workers.
3150  Economy / Economics / Re: Mt Gox outragious 3% now, then 6.5% transaction fee on: July 01, 2011, 08:27:27 PM
For the next 25 days or so, certain traders affected directly by the Mt Gox rollback have zero commissions.  That accounts for the historically narrow spreads.
Really? you would take zero commisions on a ROLLBACK?
Someone could have made millions buying them at $0.01.
Can you imaging the stock/forex market having to ROLLBACK?
Not that I bought any at $0.01, but Mt Gox should be the one footing the bill.
If they want to offer a trading platform, they better be tight on security and have tons of insurance.
Fact is, it is Mt. Gox fault, and in the end, they paid nothing for their mistake.

Go troll somewhere else.

Most of your sentences start with capital letters and include punctuation, so I can't imagine that your reading comprehension is so bad that you are making an honest mistake here.

The rollback also rolled fees back, so no one paid any fees at all from the time just before the big oops until trading opened again.  The zero commission special going on right now is for trades made after the site reopened, that is for trades in the future.
3151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I need to open a Tradehill account on: July 01, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
I can only offer my tale of woe.  This is what I see every time I log in Sad

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Your Earned Commissions

You have earned no commissions from referrals. Refer others to TradeHill using referral code TH-R16164

Click here, for the children.

Might want to fix your URL.
3152  Economy / Goods / Re: new real tangible physical bitcoin coin on: July 01, 2011, 07:57:34 PM
It isn't really a bitcoin, just a brass coin with the logo stamped into it.

And it isn't really first if you count the limited edition resin coins that went around a while back.

But it is still really cool looking.  I ordered two.
3153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will PayPal start accepting bitcoin? on: July 01, 2011, 07:45:07 PM
paypal will never accept bitcoin

They'll accept it the picosecond they think that they'll make more money if they do than they will if they don't. They'll be supporters of Bitcoin instantly if they conclude there's more profit to be had by supporting it than attempting to interfere with it. Whether they'll ever actually conclude that is the variable, but they're a corporation, they'll always do what they think will put the most money in their executives' pockets.

Exactly.  The exact same reasoning applies to Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express too.

The questions are "Who will jump first?"  and "When?".  PayPal seems very slightly more likely than the credit card companies to jump in first.  But no idea when.  Could still be years away.
3154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I need to open a Tradehill account on: July 01, 2011, 07:40:22 PM
I had a similar problem.  I really wanted the 10% discount on my fees, but I didn't know who to give the referral bonus to.  I could have just picked some random post, but I wanted it to go to someone that had helped me out.

In the end, I went with the guy that fixed my avatar since his code was the first one I came across after I decided to be selective about who got the reward.

If I'd thought about it a little longer, I'd have checked to see if DrGr33n had a code posted, since all of my miners use LinuxCoin.
3155  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin silver 1oz custom coin... gauging demand on: July 01, 2011, 07:14:57 AM
The premium for ASEs is under $5.00 in small quantities.

I think I'd be willing to buy one for about $10 over spot.  But if you can get your cost down into the $5-$7 range, or lower, I'd get several.

Of course, I'd want to pay in BTC too.
3156  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: P2P block download - use bit torrent like method on: June 30, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
I'm pretty sure that verification time is the dominant factor when fetching a large number of blocks.  For each block, the client verifies each transaction.  That is a lot of work.
3157  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: June 30, 2011, 12:20:35 AM
I don't really want to mess with the permissions of that file without knowing what i'm doing.  can someone explain to me what to do?

Code:
sudo su
3158  Economy / Economics / Re: Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two on: June 30, 2011, 12:06:46 AM
Oh, and I need to figure out how to get this licensed onto the Touch Tunes network so I can play it in the bar.
3159  Economy / Economics / Re: Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two on: June 30, 2011, 12:01:49 AM
Lets link the first one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

The second one is clearly better produced and the music is better, but there is something about the first one that makes me like it more.

I know what that something is.  Fake 'staches.
3160  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~3000 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fees, Long polling, SSL, JSON API, and more on: June 29, 2011, 11:57:03 PM
USWEST is dead?

Old news.  11 years ago, tomorrow.
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