All the top books have a big staff. All the 1 and 2 man shops have gone under with no expansion after 6 months. You did not answer the question. I'll ask it again :
How do you know how many employees Anonibet, your top rated book, have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ?
How do you know that they are not a one or two man shop ?
Did you verify that they have "big staff" before giving them a rating of A, isolated on top of all others ? If so, how did you verify that ?Poster input plays a huge role.
Your "rating guide" is disconnected from public opinion.
If you look at the ratings by users thread, you will see that BetcoinSports is rated last by the users while you just upgraded them to 3rd, simply because they paid you to advertise on your website.
Similarly, Anonibet your top rated book is rated 6 out of 9 by the users.The odds are awful. I'll post some today when I have time.
When you post our odds, please also post the odds offered by your top rated book as a comparison. Fair enough ?6 guys in a row just sign up and all give DirectBet a 5 and you don't see a problem with it.
Guys, this is another lie by Peeps Place, and as usual, we will prove it.
Just go and see for yourself, here are all the ratings that we received in July by the users in the order in which they were received :
Jr Member - 1
Member - 1.5
Member - 3.5
Jr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 4.5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 5
Hero Member - 5
Full Member - 4.25
Sr. Member - 1
Sr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 4
Newbie - 5
Member - 4
Member - 4
Member 4.5
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0
We have been the victim of shill accounts, not the beneficial. Several users here have rated us 1, a rating that is reserved for scams, without any explanation, and "coincidently", that happened right after we revealed Peeps Place scam !
We have not used shill accounts to rate ourselves !
Peeps Place, where do you see 6 newbies in a row rating us 5 ?
Peeps Place, you are a professional liar. You can't make a single post without lying.
The odds of 6 people posting a 5 in a row, assuming equal chance of voting each number, is .000064.
 
Where do you see 6 people in a row giving us a rating of 5 ?
What are the odds that you will make a post without lying ?
I didn't look at how many voted 5. I went by skipper's post. That's what he said. |
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@Peeps Place
has DirectBet got 4 or 5 rating yet ? If not then share with us why ?
They can't qualify for a "B-" rating or above without being in business at least one year. Too many new books have gone under and some looked to be great books:
If you want another proof that ratings in his "guide" are paid for, this is it :No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".
BetcoinSports purchased a banner on www.PeepsPlace.com earlier this month and lo and behold, they got upgraded !
Previously, CloudBet had a banner at www.PeepsPlace.com and they were ranked 3rd. Now their banner was replaced by BetcoinSports and as a result BetcoinSports are now ranked 3rd and Cloudbet went down to 5th.
The bottom line is that the top 3 rated books in his "ratings guide" are always the 3 books that are paying for banners at www.PeepsPlace.com and the more you pay Peeps Place, the higher your rating is !All of the one man and two man shops have gone under when the didn't expand. How do you know how many employees Anonibet, your top rated book, have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ?
How do you know that they are not a one or two man shop ?My biggest problem with DirectBet is that a bet can be held up for hours without the opportunity to cancel the bet. I realize that this may not be DirectBet's fault, but that problem does exist. It doesn't exist with post up books. That's not true, you can deposit first and then place the bet with immediate confirmation, just like you can with deposit books. I explained it to you many times but you insist on remaining ignorance (probably until we pay you...) :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830The other issue is with the odds. It doesn't matter how many offerings are made if they are unplayable.
Once again you have no idea what you're talking about.
DirectBet offers much greater odds on average than Anonibet, your top rated book.
P.S -> Welcome back. I'm glad you are posting again from your real account and not from Skipper2.I'll try to answer all. 1. Posters changed the criteria for the ratings. Poster input plays a huge role. DirectBet knows this since he's always at the rating thread crapping on it. 2. Betcoinsports had an upgrade in rating from "C+" to "B-" After that a banner was placed up. We ask strong books. Betcoinsports is a great book. Their software was upgraded and imo the best of any site. 3. The top 3 books are not the highest rated books most of the time but are at times. All the books with banners should be strong books. If an advertising book goes under, it hurts our reputation. 4. All the top books have a big staff. All the 1 and 2 man shops have gone under with no expansion after 6 months. How many employees do you have? 5. You have a hard on for Anonibet and send in many posters to bash them. It's the same with the 6 new poster's at Ryan's all rating DirectBet 5. 6. The odds are awful. I'll post some today when I have time. Anonibet, Nitrogen, Betcoin and Casinobitcoin are the top 4 books. Of course they will be asked to advertise. They all have a good sized staff. I never understand if Anonibet did not paid you why you always defend Anonibet, and you crossed the limit and making shill to accused Directbet through shill account, and by mistake you posted with your shill account and Directbet caught you and after that you delete that post and now saying you pm Skipper2 why he deleted his post. Still defending yourself that Skipper2 account was not yours, so how you will prove that, those newbie account belong to Directbet who rated on Ryank thread. According to you who will rate Directbet above 4 are related to Directbet. Do you think we are really fool and will believe your words after all this. So many complaint about Anonibet and you never changed the rating of Anonibet. I have only one word for you that is lol. How about we post up 10 BTC that I'm not skipper? 6 guys in a row just sign up and all give DirectBet a 5 and you don't see a problem with it. lol, then how you prove that, those accounts belong to Directbet, they rated high directbet so they belong to directbet, Skipper2 account posted on your thread like you then deleted post after saw that you posted through wrong account. The odds of 6 people posting a 5 in a row, assuming equal chance of voting each number, is .000064. They don't all have to be DirectBet but you would have to be blind if you can't see what DirectBet is up too. |
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DirectBet- If you use negotiable odds and then cancel the bet, how long does it take for your refund to reach your wallet on average?
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@Peeps Place
has DirectBet got 4 or 5 rating yet ? If not then share with us why ?
They can't qualify for a "B-" rating or above without being in business at least one year. Too many new books have gone under and some looked to be great books:
If you want another proof that ratings in his "guide" are paid for, this is it :No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".
BetcoinSports purchased a banner on www.PeepsPlace.com earlier this month and lo and behold, they got upgraded !
Previously, CloudBet had a banner at www.PeepsPlace.com and they were ranked 3rd. Now their banner was replaced by BetcoinSports and as a result BetcoinSports are now ranked 3rd and Cloudbet went down to 5th.
The bottom line is that the top 3 rated books in his "ratings guide" are always the 3 books that are paying for banners at www.PeepsPlace.com and the more you pay Peeps Place, the higher your rating is !All of the one man and two man shops have gone under when the didn't expand. How do you know how many employees Anonibet, your top rated book, have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ?
How do you know that they are not a one or two man shop ?My biggest problem with DirectBet is that a bet can be held up for hours without the opportunity to cancel the bet. I realize that this may not be DirectBet's fault, but that problem does exist. It doesn't exist with post up books. That's not true, you can deposit first and then place the bet with immediate confirmation, just like you can with deposit books. I explained it to you many times but you insist on remaining ignorance (probably until we pay you...) :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830The other issue is with the odds. It doesn't matter how many offerings are made if they are unplayable.
Once again you have no idea what you're talking about.
DirectBet offers much greater odds on average than Anonibet, your top rated book.
P.S -> Welcome back. I'm glad you are posting again from your real account and not from Skipper2.I'll try to answer all. 1. Posters changed the criteria for the ratings. Poster input plays a huge role. DirectBet knows this since he's always at the rating thread crapping on it. 2. Betcoinsports had an upgrade in rating from "C+" to "B-" After that a banner was placed up. We ask strong books. Betcoinsports is a great book. Their software was upgraded and imo the best of any site. 3. The top 3 books are not the highest rated books most of the time but are at times. All the books with banners should be strong books. If an advertising book goes under, it hurts our reputation. 4. All the top books have a big staff. All the 1 and 2 man shops have gone under with no expansion after 6 months. How many employees do you have? 5. You have a hard on for Anonibet and send in many posters to bash them. It's the same with the 6 new poster's at Ryan's all rating DirectBet 5. 6. The odds are awful. I'll post some today when I have time. Anonibet, Nitrogen, Betcoin and Casinobitcoin are the top 4 books. Of course they will be asked to advertise. They all have a good sized staff. I never understand if Anonibet did not paid you why you always defend Anonibet, and you crossed the limit and making shill to accused Directbet through shill account, and by mistake you posted with your shill account and Directbet caught you and after that you delete that post and now saying you pm Skipper2 why he deleted his post. Still defending yourself that Skipper2 account was not yours, so how you will prove that, those newbie account belong to Directbet who rated on Ryank thread. According to you who will rate Directbet above 4 are related to Directbet. Do you think we are really fool and will believe your words after all this. So many complaint about Anonibet and you never changed the rating of Anonibet. I have only one word for you that is lol. How about we post up 10 BTC that I'm not skipper? 6 guys in a row just sign up and all give DirectBet a 5 and you don't see a problem with it. |
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Bos -312/176
Mets -3333/380
Stl -3333/380
Det -204/-103
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@Peeps Place
has DirectBet got 4 or 5 rating yet ? If not then share with us why ?
They can't qualify for a "B-" rating or above without being in business at least one year. Too many new books have gone under and some looked to be great books:
If you want another proof that ratings in his "guide" are paid for, this is it :No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".
BetcoinSports purchased a banner on www.PeepsPlace.com earlier this month and lo and behold, they got upgraded !
Previously, CloudBet had a banner at www.PeepsPlace.com and they were ranked 3rd. Now their banner was replaced by BetcoinSports and as a result BetcoinSports are now ranked 3rd and Cloudbet went down to 5th.
The bottom line is that the top 3 rated books in his "ratings guide" are always the 3 books that are paying for banners at www.PeepsPlace.com and the more you pay Peeps Place, the higher your rating is !All of the one man and two man shops have gone under when the didn't expand. How do you know how many employees Anonibet, your top rated book, have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ?
How do you know that they are not a one or two man shop ?My biggest problem with DirectBet is that a bet can be held up for hours without the opportunity to cancel the bet. I realize that this may not be DirectBet's fault, but that problem does exist. It doesn't exist with post up books. That's not true, you can deposit first and then place the bet with immediate confirmation, just like you can with deposit books. I explained it to you many times but you insist on remaining ignorance (probably until we pay you...) :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830The other issue is with the odds. It doesn't matter how many offerings are made if they are unplayable.
Once again you have no idea what you're talking about.
DirectBet offers much greater odds on average than Anonibet, your top rated book.
P.S -> Welcome back. I'm glad you are posting again from your real account and not from Skipper2.I'll try to answer all. 1. Posters changed the criteria for the ratings. Poster input plays a huge role. DirectBet knows this since he's always at the rating thread crapping on it. 2. Betcoinsports had an upgrade in rating from "C+" to "B-" After that a banner was placed up. We ask strong books. Betcoinsports is a great book. Their software was upgraded and imo the best of any site. 3. The top 3 books are not the highest rated books most of the time but are at times. All the books with banners should be strong books. If an advertising book goes under, it hurts our reputation. 4. All the top books have a big staff. All the 1 and 2 man shops have gone under with no expansion after 6 months. How many employees do you have? 5. You have a hard on for Anonibet and send in many posters to bash them. It's the same with the 6 new poster's at Ryan's all rating DirectBet 5. 6. The odds are awful. I'll post some today when I have time. Anonibet, Nitrogen, Betcoin and Casinobitcoin are the top 4 books. Of course they will be asked to advertise. They all have a good sized staff. |
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@Peeps Place
has DirectBet got 4 or 5 rating yet ? If not then share with us why ?
They can't qualify for a "B-" rating or above without being in business at least one year. Too many new books have gone under and some looked to be great books: BitBook Bit365 - Uses the exact same betting method as DirectBet meaning no deposit. StakeBTC Bitcoinlivebets All of the one man and two man shops have gone under when the didn't expand. DirectBet isn't expanding. There ploy is to attack those that disagree with them. My biggest problem with DirectBet is that a bet can be held up for hours without the opportunity to cancel the bet. I realize that this may not be DirectBet's fault, but that problem does exist. It doesn't exist with post up books. Until that problem is fixed there is no way that DirectBet can be recommended. The other issue is with the odds. It doesn't matter how many offerings are made if they are unplayable. I realize that the guys winning these contests are very happy with DirectBet. This isn't a slight on smaller bettors since all are the same in my eyes, but there is no reason for larger bettors to play at DirectBet. If you feel that any of these reasons are invalid, then please post why. |
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DirectBet- Can you please start another thread with all your accusations since it clutters up this thread. How about "Peepsplace is on the take" and keep it there. Some replies to the above accusations.
You mentioned the banner at Cloudbet and how the ratings change when banners come down. Cloudbet's rating was "C+". The banner came down and they remained "C+".
Betcoinsports got a bump from "C+" to "B-". They have been in business longer than a year and qualified for the upgrade. No poster objected to the upgrade in rating. Look at the changes that Betcoinsports has made to their software. I think it is the best out there and user friendly. Take a look at it. The flashing red and green boxes are great.
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Stinky, thanks so much for your detailed ratings. It helps us all. We could use more joining in.
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You need a psychiatrist out of paranoia thinking I'm a competitor. You aren't a threat to anyone. You have a bunch of .01 btc tiny bettors in love with you betting your dumb lines.
Do you remember this guy skipper2 from yesterday who tried to spread chaos here and discredit us ? We just found out that skipper2 is Peeps Place ! Peeps Place posted in his "ratings guide" thread but forgot that he was logged in as skipper2. As soon as a realized his mistake, he immediately deleted the post !!! Luckily, we were on-line to take a screen capture LOL !!! See below, Peeps Place post in his thread from his skipper2 account. Those of you who follow his thread will immediately recognize that this is Peeps Place writing. I assume he is doing so because his "ratings guide" no longer has any creditability after we revealed that it is not a true ratings guide but rather a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet. Please take a moment to vote at the poll on top of this thread. Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them, and that he is hiding behind shill accounts in order to discredit books that refused to pay him ?  Good catch Directbet, now no one will rely on his rating, he was always biased because of some coins. It's untrue. I sent a PM to skipper2 to see why it was deleted. |
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NitroGen is pretty solid, i am using it for e-sport bets, and they have some problems with granting bets(too slow), so when there is a big tournament going on you cant make a multiple bets per day with same deposit, just because you need to wait so long.
Apart from the that, i did not have any other issues with the site, good looks, solid support, near instant deposits, decent speed @withdrawals.
If you dont care about e-sports, i would probably give the site an A- or B+, but for the e-sport bets its just a solid B
Thanks for the input. |
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Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL... Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account. However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted. Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account : https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871 I don't care about your traps lies. I don't know skipper. Ask him. I don't want to make anymore speculations. All I know is that he never mentioned Anonibet in any previous posts. If you were not skipper2 then why skipper2 deleted his post. There were not any reason to delete his post. I sent him a PM. I don't know. |
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Stinky- I have no idea whi shipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again.
Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL... Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account. However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted. Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account : https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871 I have no idea who skipper is or why the post was deleted. He never mentions Anonibet in previous posts. Ask him, I don't want to make anymore guesses. I just know that you lie and have been posting that you lie for months. Spin it anyway that you would like. skipper didn't vote for any book other than DirectBet. I'll shoot a PM to skipper. |
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Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL... Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account. However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted. Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account : https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871 I don't care about your traps lies. I don't know skipper. Ask him. I don't want to make anymore speculations. All I know is that he never mentioned Anonibet in any previous posts. Also, he only rated one book. |
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Hey Peeps,
Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?
I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.
Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.
I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:
Nitrogen - A A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS. I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them
DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.
Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games. The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.
Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws
Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.
Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.
Stinky- I have no idea who skipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again. He got caught with 6 paid/shills/ghosts and now is trying to turn this around. |
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edit- Not good to the eye. ...................... DirectBet gets caught using 6 shill accounts so now he tries to turn it around.
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I read all that I could on the Anonibet contest. I had contact with Michael and John Barnes. Then I read the facebook pages of Anonitips.
Anonibet opened their facebook page in 2011. Anonitips opened his page in April 2014. On April 4th and 5th Anonitips made lots of posts on his facebook page with plays. After that he went long periods without a post. It looks to me that Anonitips was just looking for tips for his plays. They didn't go good at first so he stopped posting regularly.
In his first post he mentions Anonibet. After that he never makes mention of Anonibet. If he were an employee or plant, he would have pushed Anonibet hard during the World Cup.
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DirectBet caught shilling. Sent in 6 new signups in July to give DirectBet top ratings in Ryan's poll. Looks like the shills are also trying to discredit Anonibet and Nitrogen. When they also vote for those two books, it's always low The pattern is followed by all 6 new signups. skipper In June only two posters voted on DirectBet. One gave them a 4 and the other a 1. All of a sudden we have 6 new shills vote for DirectBet all 4.5 or 5. They all opened their account in July. |
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can u pls ask Michael anonibet boss to come here and make official word
1. anonitips is not working for anonibet and never worked for anonibet...
2. he does not know why anonitips has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...
3. he does not know this person anonitips and only heard about him in contest
I want official word from anonibet boss and not from his soliders.
then we can continue...
Please find my answers for the last time regarding that subject: 1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either. 2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page. 3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis. The 10 BTC winner has disclosed his wallet address on the forum, we have asked Anonitips to do the same. But so far he has not responded. If we were to make our employees winning the contest, why would we not make someone win the 10 BTC? If we were to use our employees for the contest, we would never use a nickname like Anonitips. Do you think we are so stupid? Some Hitmen (paid by our competitors which will burst in few weeks/months) have invaded our thread especially and posted big pictures etc in order to tarnish Anonibet image. What the masters/owners of these posting members do not know, is that The forum is not a very good place to grab some of our customers. They should try to advertise like we do outside of the Bitcoin world. They will not be able to survive by chasing customers on the forum. We know that some of our competitors are on the verge to close down. We are not happy about this, because it affects the trust in Bitcoin Bookmakers. We want them to survive. We might in the near future help some of them by buying their brands (we are not buying database) in order to prevent them to run away with customers funds. John is not my soldier, he is our Affiliate Marketing Manager. He has our full trust and can respond to any question on the forum. This is the last time we answer this unfounded, baseless accusations. Regards, Michael Hoshford There are too many new books opening up for the new and small shops to survive. The player base at bitcointalk increases at a very low rate while the books entering the market is growing at a large rate using percentages. The math says that many books will fail without a player base outside of bitcointalk. The books run by a minimal staff just keep going under. Although most good books are starting small, the growth has to be fairly fast. If they aren't able to add more employees, then there is little profit to loss. Bitcoinsport Bitcoinlivebets StakeBTC Bitcook |
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