#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[info@anonibet.com]

can u pls ask Michael anonibet boss to come here and make official word

1. anonitips is not working for anonibet and never worked for anonibet...
2. he does not know why anonitips has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...
3. he does not know this person anonitips and only heard about him in contest

I want official word from anonibet boss and not from his soliders.

then we can continue...

Please find my answers for the last time regarding that subject:

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

The 10 BTC winner has disclosed his wallet address on the forum, we have asked Anonitips to do the same. But so far he has not responded. If we were to make our employees winning the contest, why would we not make someone win the 10 BTC? If we were to use our employees for the contest, we would never use a nickname like Anonitips. Do you think we are so stupid?

Some Hitmen (paid by our competitors which will burst in few weeks/months) have invaded our thread especially and posted big pictures etc in order to tarnish Anonibet image. What the masters/owners of these posting members do not know, is that The forum is not a very good place to grab some of our customers. They should try to advertise like we do outside of the Bitcoin world. They will not be able to survive by chasing customers on the forum.

We know that some of our competitors are on the verge to close down. We are not happy about this, because it affects the trust in Bitcoin Bookmakers. We want them to survive. We might in the near future help some of them by buying their brands (we are not buying database) in order to prevent them to run away with customers funds.

John is not my soldier, he is our Affiliate Marketing Manager. He has our full trust and can respond to any question on the forum.

This is the last time we answer this unfounded, baseless accusations.

Regards,
Michael Hoshford

[achow101]

can u pls ask Michael anonibet boss to come here and make official word

1. anonitips is not working for anonibet and never worked for anonibet...
2. he does not know why anonitips has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...
3. he does not know this person anonitips and only heard about him in contest

I want official word from anonibet boss and not from his soliders.

then we can continue...

Please find my answers for the last time regarding that subject:

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

The 10 BTC winner has disclosed his wallet address on the forum, we have asked Anonitips to do the same. But so far he has not responded. If we were to make our employees winning the contest, why would we not make someone win the 10 BTC? If we were to use our employees for the contest, we would never use a nickname like Anonitips. Do you think we are so stupid?

Some Hitmen (paid by our competitors which will burst in few weeks/months) have invaded our thread especially and posted big pictures etc in order to tarnish Anonibet image. What the masters/owners of these posting members do not know, is that The forum is not a very good place to grab some of our customers. They should try to advertise like we do outside of the Bitcoin world. They will not be able to survive by chasing customers on the forum.

We know that some of our competitors are on the verge to close down. We are not happy about this, because it affects the trust in Bitcoin Bookmakers. We want them to survive. We might in the near future help some of them by buying their brands (we are not buying database) in order to prevent them to run away with customers funds.

John is not my soldier, he is our Affiliate Marketing Manager. He has our full trust and can respond to any question on the forum.

This is the last time we answer this unfounded, baseless accusations.

Regards,
Michael Hoshford

Why you aren't answer about your Facebook meme contest too?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7924843#msg7924843

[Rating Place]

can u pls ask Michael anonibet boss to come here and make official word

1. anonitips is not working for anonibet and never worked for anonibet...
2. he does not know why anonitips has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...
3. he does not know this person anonitips and only heard about him in contest

I want official word from anonibet boss and not from his soliders.

then we can continue...

Please find my answers for the last time regarding that subject:

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

The 10 BTC winner has disclosed his wallet address on the forum, we have asked Anonitips to do the same. But so far he has not responded. If we were to make our employees winning the contest, why would we not make someone win the 10 BTC? If we were to use our employees for the contest, we would never use a nickname like Anonitips. Do you think we are so stupid?

Some Hitmen (paid by our competitors which will burst in few weeks/months) have invaded our thread especially and posted big pictures etc in order to tarnish Anonibet image. What the masters/owners of these posting members do not know, is that The forum is not a very good place to grab some of our customers. They should try to advertise like we do outside of the Bitcoin world. They will not be able to survive by chasing customers on the forum.

We know that some of our competitors are on the verge to close down. We are not happy about this, because it affects the trust in Bitcoin Bookmakers. We want them to survive. We might in the near future help some of them by buying their brands (we are not buying database) in order to prevent them to run away with customers funds.

John is not my soldier, he is our Affiliate Marketing Manager. He has our full trust and can respond to any question on the forum.

This is the last time we answer this unfounded, baseless accusations.

Regards,
Michael Hoshford

There are too many new books opening up for the new and small shops to survive. The player base at bitcointalk increases at a very low rate while the books entering the market is growing at a large rate using percentages. The math says that many books will fail without a player base outside of bitcointalk.

The books run by a minimal staff just keep going under. Although most good books are starting small, the growth has to be fairly fast. If they aren't able to add more employees, then there is little profit to loss.


Bitcoinsport
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Bitcook

[Legend_]

1. Anonitips does not work for Anonibet, he is not a former employee either.
2. We have no clue why Anonitips is promoting Anonibet on his facebook page.
3. We do not know him at all. He registered on the 5th of March to Anonibet, he is a regular customer placing lots of bets on a daily basis.

why someone u don't know at all will add your logo and address to his facebook page without getting any payment for several years?

I do not believe it... never heard of someone who promoted a company without getting pay or at least thanks...

and why immediately after I revelaed this scam anonitips facebook page was deleted, then when I showed a cached version on google they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

I am a customer. I placed 70+ bets with my own money on your site to take the lead in the contest. I got 65 points and first place at the time had only 9 points for many days... then immediately after I posted my bets and took the lead, all of a sudden two completely newbies who just opened their bitcoin talk accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me. I suspected it was Anonibet participating in their own contest and so I stopped... luckily i later found a way to prove it...

I believe all contest winners are not real customers but I could only prove one.

anonibet also did not pay the 2btc prize for the unluckiest bet slip... they say it is because joelad the person who was supposed to win it won first place prize and can not take both prizes, but nowhere in the contest terms did it say that... so once again they changed the rules after the contest was already over to keep the money for them... they also did that in their meme contest...

... also, if joelad was a real customer I am sure he would have at least attempt to claim his prize but he didn't request it and didn't complain so I believe he is anonibet employee too... a real customer will not give up on his prize so quickly!

so what do u think? do u believe Michael has no clue who is this guy?

[Rating Place]

DirectBet caught shilling. Sent in 6 new signups in July to give DirectBet top ratings in Ryan's poll. Looks like the shills are also trying to discredit Anonibet and Nitrogen. When they also vote for those two books, it's always low The pattern is followed by all 6 new signups.

skipper

In June only two posters voted on DirectBet. One gave them a 4 and the other a 1. All of a sudden we have 6 new shills vote for DirectBet all 4.5 or 5. They all opened their account in July.

[Rating Place]

I read all that I could on the Anonibet contest. I had contact with Michael and John Barnes. Then I read the facebook pages of Anonitips.

Anonibet opened their facebook page in 2011. Anonitips opened his page in April 2014. On April 4th and 5th Anonitips made lots of posts on his facebook page with plays. After that he went long periods without a post.  It looks to me that Anonitips was just looking for tips for his plays. They didn't go good at first so he stopped posting regularly.

In his first post he mentions Anonibet. After that he never makes mention of Anonibet. If he were an employee or plant, he would have pushed Anonibet hard during the World Cup.

[DirectBet]

DirectBet caught shilling. Sent in 6 new signups in July to give DirectBet top ratings in Ryan's poll. Looks like the shills are also trying to discredit Anonibet and Nitrogen. When they also vote for those two books, it's always low The pattern is followed by all 6 new signups.

skipper

In June only two posters voted on DirectBet. One gave them a 4 and the other a 1. All of a sudden we have 6 new shills vote for DirectBet all 4.5 or 5. They all opened their account in July.

We have been the victim of shill accounts, not the beneficial. Peeps Place sent several users and used multi accounts to rate us 1, a rating that is reserved for scam, without any explanation.

We have not used shill accounts to rate ourselves !

Once again, Peeps Place is spreading false information on DirectBet, without any proof, as he is getting paid by our competitors to do that.

Speaking about shills, just so you know, skipper2, the one whom Peeps Place is quoting here, is actually Peeps Place himself.

It looks like Peeps Place is exchanging posts with himself, that's how low he is getting to discredit us and try to save his "ratings guide" LOL.

Peeps Place just posted here a reply but forgot that he was logged in as skipper2. As soon as he realized his mistake, he immediately
deleted the post !!!

Luckily, we were on-line to take a screen capture LOL !!!

See below, Peeps Place post here from his skipper2 account. Those of you who follow this thread will immediately recognize that this is Peeps Place writing.

Peeps Place used this "skipper2" account to discredit the sports book rankings by users thread and attempted to spread chaos and destroy the ratings.

I assume he was doing so because he realizes that the rankings by users guide has turned to be the leading one now that this "ratings guide" no longer has any creditability after we revealed that it is not a true ratings guide but rather a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet.

[Tammy Chan]

After reading the above posts, I am not sure how I should interpret those ratings or users' reviews.

They could be paid to give a site good rating/review, or they could be paid to give a site bad rating/review, and we the readers have no way to distinguish the real feedback from the "sponsored" ones.

[StinkyS4L]

Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

[iram3130]

Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

I agree all with you, what you wrote and ratings too, Anonibet doesn't deserve A even before this chaos, but after this contest it must be dropped down.

And it's not good what Directbet caught you, why you are making shill account to defend Anoni or attack on Direct.

You just do your work as Book rater, for you all book must equal but you always defend Anoni even on Anoni thread you were defending there, It's not your work if they have any accusation they will defend themselves.

[DirectBet]

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Thanks for your feedback. We always look for ways to improve.

If you PM me the bet ID I can look into why your bet did not confirm.

Keep in mind that when you watch the game on TV, you are seeing it in a delay. Our odds are always ahead of what you actually see on TV. Therefore, if you are betting on the favorite or the team \ player with momentum, it is better to set the minimum required odds to slightly below the current odds to guarantee execution. This will not have any negative effect on the confirmed odds because your bet will always confirm at the current odds, which could be higher than the minimum specified.

[magicmexican]

NitroGen is pretty solid, i am using it for e-sport bets, and they have some problems with granting bets(too slow), so when there is a big tournament going on you cant make a multiple bets per day with same deposit, just because you need to wait so long.

Apart from the that, i did not have any other issues with the site, good looks, solid support, near instant deposits, decent speed @withdrawals.

If you dont care about e-sports, i would probably give the site an A- or B+, but for the e-sport bets its just a solid B

[Legend_]

Anonibet opened their facebook page in 2011. Anonitips opened his page in April 2014.

u r wrong... anonitips opened his facebook page in 2011... look again...

I think anonitips is one of anonibet first bosses... the facebook page was opened long time ago and he forgot he had anonibet address and logo in contact info when he used the account for contest...

[DirectBet]

No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".

If you wanted another proof that ratings in this guide are paid for, this is it.

BetcoinSports purchased a banner on www.PeepsPlace.com earlier this month and lo and behold, they got upgraded !

Previously, CloudBet had a banner at www.PeepsPlace.com and they were ranked 3rd. Now their banner was replaced by BetcoinSports and as a result BetcoinSports are now ranked 3rd and Cloudbet went down to 5th.

The bottom line is that the top 3 rated books in this "ratings guide" are always the 3 books that are paying for banners at www.PeepsPlace.com and the more you pay Peeps Place, the higher your rating is !

[Rating Place]

Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

Stinky- I have no idea who skipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again. He got caught with 6 paid/shills/ghosts and now is trying to turn this around.

[DirectBet]

Stinky- I have no idea whi shipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again.

Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL...

Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account.

However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted.

Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account :

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871

[Rating Place]

Stinky- I have no idea whi shipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again.

Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL...

Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account.

However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted.

Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account :

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871

I have no idea who skipper is or why the post was deleted. He never mentions Anonibet in previous posts. Ask him, I don't want to make anymore guesses. I just know that you lie and have been posting that you lie for months. Spin it anyway that you would like. skipper didn't vote for any book other than DirectBet. I'll shoot a PM to skipper.

[Rating Place]

NitroGen is pretty solid, i am using it for e-sport bets, and they have some problems with granting bets(too slow), so when there is a big tournament going on you cant make a multiple bets per day with same deposit, just because you need to wait so long.

Apart from the that, i did not have any other issues with the site, good looks, solid support, near instant deposits, decent speed @withdrawals.

If you dont care about e-sports, i would probably give the site an A- or B+, but for the e-sport bets its just a solid B

Thanks for the input.

[Rating Place]

Stinky, thanks so much for your detailed ratings. It helps us all. We could use more joining in.

[Rating Place]

DirectBet- Can you please start another thread with all your accusations since it clutters up this thread. How about "Peepsplace is on the take" and keep it there. Some replies to the above accusations.

You mentioned the banner at Cloudbet and how the ratings change when banners come down. Cloudbet's rating was "C+". The banner came down and they remained "C+".

Betcoinsports got a bump from "C+" to "B-". They have been in business longer than a year and qualified for the upgrade. No poster objected to the upgrade in rating. Look at the changes that Betcoinsports has made to their software. I think it is the best out there and user friendly. Take a look at it. The flashing red and green boxes are great.