Could also be Bitfury finally starting to ship some serious chips/miners, or a combination of several of the smaller fry shipping some gear.

 I don't see any reason for a farm to swap out S7 units unless they're at the limit of power availability (the things are more profitable NOW than they were when the S9 was introduced, I think - close if not).

 I am FULLY aware of that, having had Internet in quite a few business locations - including where I am at NOW.
 I stand by my "$120 is crazy high" statement - that's more than DOUBLE what I am paying on my CURRENT "BUSINESS" LOCATION for 100BaseT Ethernet service from a fiber backbone.
 It is about double the HIGHEST I have ever paid for a "business" Internet connection, no matter where or what method of connection was used.


 If you're talking the old T1 type stuff, THAT got mighty expensive - 20 years or so ago before DSL and Cable Modem got widespread.

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

I would guess you're not running the base "Windows 10 Home" then, which is very difficult to get updates to be disabled in AND the only "registry edit" option doesn't work 100% reliably as Mickey$loth can manage to override it somehow on "critical updates".

 I also STRONGLY dislike the changes they made to the UI (especially the carry-over worthlessness BS from Win8).

 I see a LOT worse stability in 10 than in 7.

 I hate that "Cortana" BS you CAN'T GET RID OF, along with quite a few other "can't get rid of them" apps that just waste drive space, but at least most of the others don't automatically load and waste CPU cycles and RAM no matter WHAT you do.

 Don't even get me started on the "call home" crap that's built into the OS.

 It's a VERY VERY long list....


 TO be fair, I do have some issues with 7 - but the primary one never got fixed (the "explorer doesn't save your file window positioning" issue) and STILL exists in 10 - which is WHY I still have a XP system around and will continue to do so 'till I get around to replacing what that system does with a LINUX system, since Mickey$loth has made it obvious that they consider this particular issue a "feature" and not a "BUG THAT TICKS A LOT OF FOLKS OFF".


 GTX 1070 is just a good all-around mining card, which is why they've joined the high-end RX series cards in the "massively price gouge, amazingly short supply" category.

 I don't - they didn't exist in Iowa when I was first dealing with cell service, and the company in Iowa they were "affiliated" with had the worst service in the state in the timeframe I tried them out.

 I don't recommend AGAINST T-Mobile, just have zero experience with them.

 Can't speak to Amazon or Tiger, but the prices are reasonably close for MSRP and NewEgg was at or a little UNDER MSRP for their "lowest priced card on sale" as of 3-4 months back before the shortage began.

IMO don't use Windows 10 AT ALL for a mining-specific rig.

 The ONLY thing that justifies the existance of Windows 10 is DirectX 12 gaming.

 *PERIOD*

 
 If you feel the need to run a mining-specific rig on Windows, 7 is overall a MUCH better option.

I spent years mining in my home.
Currently I have a small "shop/warehouse" type space.

 It's NOT reasonable to compare pricing on the Frontier edition WORKSTATION card to a GTX 1080ti CONSUMER card.
 Comparing pricing vs the Titan X Pascal and Titan Xp on the other hand IS fair.


 

 (1) poor ETH mining does not make the card "crappy" - that's like saying that a Formula 1 race car is "crappy" because it can't haul half a ton of stuff like a pickup.
 (2) The Frontier edition isn't intended for "the masses", it's a WORKSTATION card.
 (3) It's new enough that software hasn't been optimised for it yet.

PS4 uses an AMD Integrated GPU that has the same core count as a HD 7850 but lower clock and lower memory speed - on ETH it's not going to mine worth beans IF you can assign enough RAM to the GPU to mine AT ALL on ETH.

 It would be MUCH more applicable to compare it to a A10 78xx series with twice the GPU cores - which can't mine ETH at all because the DAG file is bigger than the max RAM you can assign to the GPU.

 It MIGHT be a viable ZEC miner, but even there the slow memory is going to hamper it - my testing on an A10-7890K gave around 11 sol/s, I'd guess the PS4 GPU might manage 2-3 times that.


 An XBox One would work better, since they used GDDR 5 instead of DDR3 - but even THAT console probably won't be able to mine ETH and won't be particularly fast at ZEC mining.

 
 In THEORY, either should be usable to mine on for SOME altcoins - just not worth the power cost of the console.

SSD aren't useless in BURST mining, just way too expen$ive per TB so not cost effective.

 Price goes up, profitability goes up - 'till the hashrate catches up to the price rise.
 It wasn't just Bitcoin price that went up though, almost ALL altcoins saw a massive surge starting about 3 months back - Bitcoin had seen a much longer surge from it's recent lows around year-and-a-half ago, THAT surge was largely fueled by Chinese investors getting allowed to spend Yuan on Bitcoin after a "temporary ban" got lifted by the Chinese Central Bank/Government.

 Profitability now is dropping, as coin prices have generally gone flat-to-dropped some from the peak a couple weeks or so back but profitability is still high enough that folks are still expanding existing farms and starting up new ones.

 Profitability is ALWAYS a question mark - there is no way to know FOR SURE what pricing will do, and as pricing is one of the 3 primary factors that determine profitability there is no way to know where profitability is going to go for sure.

 I wouldn't wait on Vega - it's doubtful it will be particularly profitable at it's "introductory" pricing.


 If anyone could predict the future the way you WANT us to be able to do, we'd be making TONS on predictions for big companies.....

GTX 1080 is lower hashrate than GTX 1070 on ETH, but somewhat better on everything else I've seen.
 For Skein Groetsl and the ZEC algo in particular, it's about 15-20% higher hashrate than a GTX 1070 if they are set to similar "OC vs a Founder's Edition" settings.

 Whattomine assigns hashrates arbitrarily, sometimes they are "reasonable" sometimes they are quite a bit off, and OC/UC/UV/TDP settings will affect that a LOT anyway.
 Nothing they can do about that, given how wide a range of hashrates the SAME CARD (much less the same GPU in different cards) will demonstrate depending on settings and luck in the Silicon Lottery.
 They do seem to assume "modded BIOS" cards on the AMD side, and some OC from most of the hashrates I've seen them use.

 It's a useful site, but you need to know what YOUR cards will manage for it to be a good comparison site.

Is there a reason you necrorezzed a 3.5 year old and badly outdated thread?

It's going to depend on your area - but $120 is CRAZY HIGH for Internet anywhere I've ever been, except perhaps for high-end 4G cell plans.

 Options are usually DSL, Cable Modem, Cellular - Exede Sat service also works at a small cost in lost blocks due to the latency but you'd have to get permission to have the antenna installed.

 Reliable is the most important part.

Spondoolies SP20 or Antminer S5 would probably fit what you're looking for.

 Possibly a Avalon 6.

There's a few "rig porn" type threads that should get you started.

 9-)

 If your power is THAT unreliable, you should give up on mining.

 Power drops THAT LONG will not give a UPS enough time to recharge the batteries before the next power drop hits, especially if you get multiple drops in a day.

 What you want flat out DOES NOT EXIST short of a high end "hybrid" UPS + Backup Generator setup, and those DO NOT COME CHEAP.

S9s routinely sell out on a specific batch, then a new batch gets posted for "presale" commonly in a week or two after that.