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3901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Panda B3+ Review ! on: April 26, 2017, 10:08:00 PM

there is also a GIGABYTE GTX 1070 MINI ITX OC Card, which will 4 sure suit into the chasis of B+ Smiley you just need proper airflow to keep em cool

how many zotac or gigabyte 1070s can we fit? more than 4? how thin are they and how thin are the panda 470s?

 Gigabyte ITX 1070 is a standard dual-width card, it's just SHORT (7" or so vs 10" more or less for most other cards).
 I've got 3 of them, and like them for my 3'd slot since most motherboards insist on crowding the 2'nd and 3'd slot close together.
 I'm amazed nobody has any RX series boards like them - I'd think Gigabyte would have done a RX 470 or 480 in the same form factor by now (TDP is very close on the RX 480 vs the GTX 1070).

 The Zotac is more like 9" - it's shorter but only by a little compared to most other cards of it's class.

3902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon's A4 Dominator, 1.2W/Mhs 14nm ASIC and miner, open for Partners on: April 26, 2017, 09:50:42 PM
With pools like ProHashing currently paying out as much as 0.07c per Mh/s per day ($17.50 USD per day), I wonder how many ROI nay-sayers are now kicking themselves they didn't buy an A4 back in August 2016?

I'd imagine there's a bunch of A2 and Titan owners who have made ROI that are feeling pretty happy too.

The BTC scaling debacle and the SEC have been great for Alts, I just hope Bitmain don't mess it up too soon.


 My A2 farm was paid for late last year - the past month has been a happy time though, as they were getting close to break-even shutdown time instead they're pulling in GOOD money again - for now.

 Still waiting on "upgrade plan" news though.
3903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: April 26, 2017, 09:41:09 PM
Several moderators at Poloniex, say this: "There are many factors that go into delisting a coin, some of the reasons are lack of community, support, development, and performance."


 Which I have already replied to a FEW of them that none of those factors seem to have anything to do with the CURE delisting, ESPECIALLY given they are not delisting FLDC.

 On the other hand, the trollbox mods seem to be treated a lot like mushrooms by Polo....

3904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: April 26, 2017, 09:37:55 PM
I actually enjoyed Mining FLDC/CURE.

What the hell happened?
You can't mine FDLC, you can get it as payment for folding, though.  Wink
You are playing on word,

but yeah I was 'mining' or 'folding', if you prefer, FLDC on in CURE team.

Now that merged mining its over, it's not lucrative enough to continue.

At least for me!

Have a good day

 You can still do the "merge folding" - it's just not as profitable right now as it was a week ago due to Polo's totally arbitrary stupid and reasonless decision.
3905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: April 26, 2017, 09:34:52 PM
It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there...
That's kind of misleading. One can't honestly say that all of the team members would still be members if they could get paid CureCoin (aka more profits) while being any team of their choosing. While I can only personally speak for 1% of the team, I can assure you that if I could get paid in CURE and be on a different team, I would.

True, though a very solid portion wouldn't be doing it at all if they weren't getting paid. It's also a good gateway into crypto for that community.

 Which is exactly WHY pretty much all of my folding rigs have gone back to mining other stuff after the recent price collapse (except that I will always keep at least ONE rig pointed at folding as long as I can afford to do so).

3906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: April 26, 2017, 09:33:10 PM
those delisting are shocking, lots of people lost fortunes
If the value of a coin drops significantly because it's no longer on 1 specific exchange, then the value of the coin was small to begin with. In short, if CureCoin doesn't rebound, then the only value it had was tied to people buying it hoping they could find a sucker to pay them more than they paid for it.

so I take it you are referring to 95% of alt crypto then... If they got removed from their main exchange I believe the same would happen.

true to an extent but this effect of a polo delisting is magnified with project with little or no development

the devs here are not that active and the coding and provable work conducted is tiny compared to other projects.

this should have been a hugely successful project and is not due to one reason....the devs treat it like a hobby coin whilst other teams work full time

imagine folding coin being retained on polo and cure coin the original and first booted off.... what a joke the project has become of late.

early adopters and investors have been losing money for years trying to prop it up

 The joke is Polo choosing to delist CURE while keeping FLDC (which is a severe JOKE that can't even come up with it's own wallet, relies on that junk Counterparty system with it's TOTAL RIPOFF FEES to distribute, and probably COSTS some low-producton folks more to get their FLDC out of Counterparty than their FLDC is worth).

 Makes for ZERO trust in Polo as far as I'm concerned.
3907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon on: April 19, 2017, 05:10:26 PM
That still doesn't explain why sell them that cheap. They will slel out them even at 2k$, even before LTC Segwit happens, price is so cheap is really screams after broken car salesman or some scammer. Maybe takes as much money as you can, before company goes bye-bye

I doubt they will make x11 rigs. Baikal very efficent draws little power and is stable. Not much space for Bitman to enter. Now making ETH/ZEC ASIC is alredy an intresting option. Especially as Antpool has ZEC and ETH pools.

 ETH is probability zero, since it's going PoS "sometime soon" - though "soon" seems to keep getting pushed back.
 ETC market is probably too small to support an ASIC.

 ZEC/ZClassic/whatever that NEW forkoff thing is called perhaps. but I'm still trying to figure out what's keeping it's price out of the double-digit satoshi range like DOGE.

3908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: April 19, 2017, 04:43:57 PM
Still not finding "avx2miner" anywhere by that name.
dcct I think I tried at some point, the github page looked familier.
mjminer seems to be a couple-generations later merged version of dcct, don't think I've tried that one yet but I did download a copy to check out.

It's too bad the Blago miner doesn't have a Linux version, it's pretty nice now that he fixed the "always start up in the top left corner" bug.


3909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: April 19, 2017, 10:18:47 AM
Finally CURE is pumping! waiting for this since last September!
It's hard to get a consistent, long-term pump on a non-spendable, altruistic coin.  Cry

Cure is JUST as spendable as pretty much every other altcoin - which is to say they pretty much ALL have to be converted into something like BTC, LTC, or ETH to actually be convertable into fiat or spendable on a large number of websites.

3910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: April 19, 2017, 10:16:02 AM


Bittrex actually flags coins that are in threat of being removed due to low volume. CureCoin was once in threat of removal from bittrex but after an increase in volume the flag was removed. Curecoin did NOT have low volume on Poloniex, which is why this is so confusing.


 It's not about the volume, about HALF the coins on Poloniex that had lower volume (specifically including GridCoin and FoldingCoin usually had almost identical BTC volume) are NOT being delisted.

 It strikes me as being completely arbitrary, and makes it a sad day when an act like this makes BTC-E seem MORE TRUSTABLE.

3911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: which coin do you think will been listed on poloniex next on: April 19, 2017, 09:29:20 AM
Given some of the coins Poloniex just announced it is DElisting (and some it is NOT delisting that are far more worthless coins than some it IS delisting), I'm amazed they would bother adding any new coins that almost nobody has ever heard of.

 On the other hand, given that Polo HAS announced they are planning to delist CURE even though it fits exactly NONE of their "criteria for delisting", they won't be getting ANY of my business any more if they do in fact delist CURE.
 It is particularly irritating that they would delist CURE but keep FLDC, which is a MUCH less worthwhile coin that is a MAJOR pain to deal with and doesn't even have it's own wallet - and DOES fit some of their criteria a LOT more than CURE does.

 I refuse to put up with having to use multiple exchanges, and Polo to date has NOT impressed me as being much if any better overall than the last exchange I used and got TIRED OF THE ISSUES with - now THIS stupidity.

3912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the Bitcoin war is stupid and Bitsend isn't. on: April 19, 2017, 09:20:49 AM


bitcoin has been around for 8 years with 1 MB max block size and the blockchain size is already above 100 GB and that is proving some difficulties for many people to run a full node. when you can't have enough distribution among full nodes and it becomes difficult, Full nodes will be run by only services, miners, ... which means centralization. I should add we are not yet there in bitcoin, and the distribution of nodes is well enough to ensure a decentralized system.

with 10 MB block size the size of blockchain is potentially growing 10 times faster and the number of nodes will fall that much faster and leads to centralization. this coin and coins like that are already centralized with their "Master Node" feature.


 Problem is that the 1MB block is already limiting the maximum transactions that can happen, causing a SERIOUS backlog of transactions WAITING to happen - and that will just get worse over time 'till folks have to stop using Bitcoin 'cause their transactions never go through.

 I see this as a major long-term limit for blockchain technology unless a way is found to REDUCE the amount of data included in a transaction by a LOT, or a way is figured out to "prune" old data and old blocks out of the blockchain.

3913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: if bitcoin dies, what alt would you go for? on: April 19, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
LTC, if I had to pick one.
ETH would make my list but it will have gone PoS by the time Bitcoin managed to "implode" making it impossible to mine.

Realistically though, as I'm a MINER not an INVESTOR, I target which coins are the most profitable for the most part for the hardware I currently have.

3914  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Estimate of internet traffic needed to mine on a pool? on: April 19, 2017, 09:10:42 AM
Mining uses low bandwidth, even my old 3G Cell measured connection was "fast enough" and had plenty of cap space available.

 This is a question that has been asked a BUNCH of times before, it would be nice if folks would try READING the forums before asking this sort of MANY TIMES ANSWERED question.
3915  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Large scale mining operations discussion on: April 19, 2017, 09:09:11 AM
how would you guys do it? would you stay local or move to someplace with better Laws/Energy/Mindset, would you try to get your own power source (solar panels, wind? generators?)
would you hoard btc? sell all as soon as you get it? some other combination of the 2?
and ofc, would you use the profit to upscale the equipment, and what percentage of income would be used this way?


 I cheat - I'm ALREADY living in the land of Very Low Cost Electric, so I would not need to move.
 Forget solar, wind, and your own generators - NOT cost effective unless your local power cost is ALREADY prohibitive for mining.
 I'd probably sell enough to cover cost of rent/electric/living expenses, and use the rest to buy more hardware with 'till I get to the limit of my available SAFE power capasity, then likely hang on to the rest waiting for a price spike.

 In fairness, I suspect some of the hardware I'd buy wouldn't be crypto-specific, but would be more for something like BOINC work with the earned GridCoin just to cover the electric cost (or perhaps a SMALL profit in good months like this month when GRC is high).

3916  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Why so few immersion cooled custom builds/Mods? on: April 19, 2017, 09:04:05 AM
You have to design a board to work with immersion cooling specifically, as a general rule, for it to work properly and reliably - and the up-front investment in the hardware AND the cooling setup isn't exactly low cost.

It can work well once it's set up, though - but it's more "large pro farms" that use it, or something like that BitFury "shipping container" setup.


3917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help me spend my bonus money on a nvidia card for zec on: April 19, 2017, 08:53:24 AM


But was in the USN  for  5 years so I have been to a lot of countries.


 Mine were all Pacific - I have fond memories of Thailand and Hong Kong/Kowloon (sp?), mixed of the Phillipines (Subic Bay, Olongopo, and Subic City) and Japan, don't really remember the stop at Korea, and UNfond memories of the shipwreck that left us unable to make it to Singapore and the I/O planned part of our WestPac tour (I was looking forward to Australia, but NOT to Diego Garcia), instead we limped back TO Subic for patches so we could limp to Japan (Yokosuka) for temp repairs then a few months tooling around the Pacific 'till later back to Japan for a complete bow replacement.


 Ranger and the Liberia Fortune are no longer in the Guiness Book for the largest collision at sea, but we were there for a short while (got beat out when 2 of the 600,000 ton class oil tankers collided).


3918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Panda B3+ Review ! on: April 19, 2017, 08:40:23 AM

 Which will be similar loudness PER FAN to the Antminer S5/S7/S9 fans, same design and RPM level if not the same exact fan model.

3919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sleeping giant is awakening?? LTC back to $50 now ?? on: April 19, 2017, 08:37:32 AM

plus tired of market manipulation.. normally when Network Rate Rises and Difficulty rises we see prices going up and not down.


 You have that backwards - it is the price rise that drives folks into increasing their hardware buys driving the hashrate/difficulty up, NOT the other way around.

 Litecoin though spent a several-month period prior to the first shipments of the A4 with *zero* new gear in the market available TO buy.

 The current rise in hashrate makes me suspect BitMain got some more chips for their L3 and sold another batch - coupled with Innosilicon probably selling as many A4 units as they can make now that they have the toothing pains of the first 2 batches fixed.

3920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BAIKAL - WHAT IS GOING ON? on: April 19, 2017, 08:33:33 AM
Well I thought mine was arriving today (maybe it is) but I didn't notice that the tracking number attached to my order has a package going somewhere on the other side of the country.  Now that it is out for delivery in Miami Florida I suddenly noticed.  So someone in Miami is apparently getting one today.  Too bad I'm more than a thousand miles away from there.

any body have a quick source for the psu's to run this?

it is an adapter that fits into the 5 pin with a round connector ..it comes with the unit...you get that and the unit ...thats it zip

you need a power adapter

it is

12v 10amps

5.5mm x 2.5 mm (round) end  (lots of 2.1mm I have here no 2.5mm)

so anyone just trip over one of these at the local walmart or something ..comes tomarrow......baikal that is

amazon will get me one by next tues (lots of 2.1mm I can get the next day ..none at 2.5mm)

anyway worth a shot (would look creepy me scouring the toy aisle of shopko yelling ah ha...finding a toy with the proper adapter .trying to avoid that ) Smiley



 ZoomHash used to sell 10 A 12 VDC power cubes for use with Gridseed 80 units, which IIRC the cube used a 2.5 while the Gridseed works with either a 2.1 OR a 2.5
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