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31561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: March 01, 2016, 08:54:04 AM

BD would you like some aloe vera for that burn? No? Must be used to them by not.

Some of the best aloe vera juice and salve is sold by the RBC Life Sciences.

Cool
31562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: March 01, 2016, 08:44:41 AM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool

"complex universe" is not a law. If you think it is, please link to a peer reviewed paper which asserts that there is a law called the "complex universe law".

"Complex universe" is such a foundational law, readily seen and understood by everyone, that it does not need stating as a scientific law, except to atheists, who contradict themselves by stating that God does not exist.

Cool
31563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: March 01, 2016, 08:36:36 AM
Every one has their own religion and god...
Debating on weather one god exist is going to be long debate...
None will accept ones argument over his/her god...

This is or might be true. The thing about atheists is, that they don't recognize that they are setting themselves up as gods, especially when they emphatically state that God does not exist. Why? Because nobody has proven that God does not exist, yet they want to believe it.

Cool
31564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: March 01, 2016, 08:33:41 AM
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First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

What are YOU yammering about. Some people say "yes" and some people say "no" and some people say both. What does that have to do with anything?

What is wrong with YOU? You can't even explain what you are talking about.

Can't help it if I am an agreeable sort of chap, and simply repeat in simpler form what he has already said about himself.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, you atheism religion religious nuts!

Come on, man. Learn how to express yourself in a proper manner. Or is that the simpler form?

Come on man, if you have something to say, learn how to express it at all, so that somebody might be able to figure out what you mean. Otherwise it is simply a bunch of meaningless rhetoric.

Cool
31565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 08:27:17 AM
Is it relevant if atheism is a religion or not? Even if it isn't, of course.
Let's suppose that you're right and it is a religion. It is the religion in which people believe God doesn't exist. So what? People still think the same thing.
This is the exact point. Let's say for a moment that I am wrong about the scientific proof for the existence of God. That out of the way, have atheists proven that God doesn't exist? Has anyone proven that God doesn't exist? No, to both questions.

So, when you have atheists stating (in some cases) no-God as a fact, they are setting themselves up as the authority on the subject. And an authority on the subject of the existence of God when it is not known for a fact that He does not exist, means that these atheists are actually setting themselves up as gods (or at least potential gods) to even think like this. They are contradicting themselves when they do this. They are being gods who are stating that God does not exist. They are acting the exact part that they are contradicting.

And, of course, if they only believe that God doesn't exist... that is, if they admit that they aren't certain that God doesn't exist... then they are weak atheists, or are not atheists at all. In either case, if they say they are atheists when they only believe it, they have a religion going for themselves.

So what? The truth, that's what. Who cares what they believe? Who cares if they have a religion or not? They do! And it's about time that atheists realize that they are not being truthful with themselves if they say that God absolutely does not exist when they don't know it for a fact, or when they say that they don't have a religion going when they suggest that God-existence might possibly be the reality.


It's so weird to believe that somewhere there is a super powerful entity that created man, which is so limited compared to it and that that entity cares for the well-being of each and everyone of us, and still, after seeing all the bad things that happen, to believe that He is good and all the horrible things happening are some sort of master plan. And after all that, after death, there is a place where everyone of us will be happy forever. Happy meaning that heaven will be after the life preferences of each of us.
It just doesn't make sense. You can turn it any way you like. It still won't compute.

Yet, on a much smaller scale, what might an insect in a terrarium think if he could think a little? Or what might a fish in a fishbowl think if he could think a little?

People can think. And people know scientifically and technically that, everything operates by cause and effect... or action and reaction as Newton calls it. Cause and effect are in the actions of everything that we can determine about anything that we know of in the universe. In fact, a scientist is a greater scientist if he can figure out the hidden cause behind something that exists. And we almost can't conceive of the idea of something happening without something else causing it to happen.

When we combine this thinking with countless trillions of cause and effect actions that exist all around us, we see the tremendous complexity involved in everything. This electron bumps that one, to cause some tiny change in things. Some photon of light is absorbed by a group of molecules to add heat energy to them. It is all tremendously complex cause and effect. But all the tiny changes make a combined effect that we can see and understand at times. However, we are so limited in our abilities, that we can barely measure only a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the cause and effect actions that happen all around us.

And, it is all breaking down. How is it all breaking down? The answer is entropy. Every cause and effect action is dispersing and diffusing things a little. Every little diffusion is equalizing materials and energies throughout all space, and maybe time. "Things" are gradually becoming less complex.

This is the big step... understanding that these things show a Great Intelligence behind the whole universe. This Intelligence has been sitting right in front of our noses for a long time. But we haven't seen It, or we have ignored It if we had chance to see. Perhaps if we wake up to the fact of Its existence, then we might be able to consider the whys and hows of our simple lives on earth.

Cool
31566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 07:45:07 AM
Here's an explanation of why atheism is not a religion, by people who should know:

http://atheists.org/activism/resources/what-is-atheism?

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Is atheism a form of religion?
Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion.

Of course atheists are going to explain what they are and are not according to some predefined dogma. The fact that they do this shows that atheism is a religion without having to use even the dictionary.

Cool
31567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 07:42:56 AM
Atheism = Poison ? IMO, Religion is poison to the mind but Non-belief is God is the true poison of the soul!!


One of the most poisonous religions is the religion of atheism. It has such a variety of dogma that it seems to not be religion, until you stand it up next to the definition of "religion" and compare.

Cool

There we go. I'm going to start counting the number of times you post your "religion of atheism" bullshit per page. I think I can probably model it, and then you won't even have to post it yourself -- you can just use a bot.

You can thank me later!

Why should I thank you because you learned how to count. Maybe sometime you will learn how to use the things that you count, and you will finally see that atheism is a religion. Of course, that wouldn't mean you would admit it.

Cool

If I use some arbitrary countable objects I will see atheism is a religion?



You are asking me? Why don't you use the dictionary and make a comparison?

Cool

I'm asking you because arbitrary counting objects don't define religions, in any dictionary. You have made the claim that they do.

But it may be the other way around, depending on who is using arbitrary counting objects ( whatever is meant by that) for whatever they are using them for.

Cool
31568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: March 01, 2016, 07:37:20 AM
....

First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

Religious people have this rapist mentality.  You tell them "no means no" but they hear "yes".

They think that all Atheists are really Christians they just don't know it yet.

Their delusions go well beyond the bronze age nonsense, affecting their lives and people around them.

You don't know what you are. first you say "no." Then you say "yes."

Nothing has changed, except that people have devolved somewhat from the times of the bronze age.

Cool
31569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: March 01, 2016, 07:33:28 AM
....

First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

What are YOU yammering about. Some people say "yes" and some people say "no" and some people say both. What does that have to do with anything?

What is wrong with YOU? You can't even explain what you are talking about.

Can't help it if I am an agreeable sort of chap, and simply repeat in simpler form what he has already said about himself.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, you atheism religion religious nuts!
31570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 12:59:59 AM
Atheism = Poison ? IMO, Religion is poison to the mind but Non-belief is God is the true poison of the soul!!


One of the most poisonous religions is the religion of atheism. It has such a variety of dogma that it seems to not be religion, until you stand it up next to the definition of "religion" and compare.

Cool

There we go. I'm going to start counting the number of times you post your "religion of atheism" bullshit per page. I think I can probably model it, and then you won't even have to post it yourself -- you can just use a bot.

You can thank me later!

Why should I thank you because you learned how to count. Maybe sometime you will learn how to use the things that you count, and you will finally see that atheism is a religion. Of course, that wouldn't mean you would admit it.

Cool

If I use some arbitrary countable objects I will see atheism is a religion?



You are asking me? Why don't you use the dictionary and make a comparison?

Cool
31571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How can I create my own religion? on: March 01, 2016, 12:58:30 AM
Pancho Villa created his own religion, too. It was a religion of "live by the gun."

Smiley
31572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 12:54:48 AM
Atheism = Poison ? IMO, Religion is poison to the mind but Non-belief is God is the true poison of the soul!!


One of the most poisonous religions is the religion of atheism. It has such a variety of dogma that it seems to not be religion, until you stand it up next to the definition of "religion" and compare.

Cool

There we go. I'm going to start counting the number of times you post your "religion of atheism" bullshit per page. I think I can probably model it, and then you won't even have to post it yourself -- you can just use a bot.

You can thank me later!

Atheism is a religion. No matter what nonsense atheists claim.

Atheists don't make any claims. If you are interested in nonsense, read the Bible.


You mean that all those scientific theorists are theists?    Cheesy Grin Cheesy
31573  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 12:53:17 AM
Atheism = Poison ? IMO, Religion is poison to the mind but Non-belief is God is the true poison of the soul!!


One of the most poisonous religions is the religion of atheism. It has such a variety of dogma that it seems to not be religion, until you stand it up next to the definition of "religion" and compare.

Cool

There we go. I'm going to start counting the number of times you post your "religion of atheism" bullshit per page. I think I can probably model it, and then you won't even have to post it yourself -- you can just use a bot.

You can thank me later!

Atheism is a religion. No matter what nonsense atheists claim.

I -- and most people -- use a definition of 'religion' which includes belief in the supernatural.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous and self contradictory "Church of Atheism" is?


Religion of atheism is right on. And it is easy to see when you look up the definition of religion in the dictionary.

Cool
31574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: March 01, 2016, 12:52:08 AM
Atheism = Poison ? IMO, Religion is poison to the mind but Non-belief is God is the true poison of the soul!!


One of the most poisonous religions is the religion of atheism. It has such a variety of dogma that it seems to not be religion, until you stand it up next to the definition of "religion" and compare.

Cool

There we go. I'm going to start counting the number of times you post your "religion of atheism" bullshit per page. I think I can probably model it, and then you won't even have to post it yourself -- you can just use a bot.

You can thank me later!

Why should I thank you because you learned how to count? Maybe sometime you will learn how to use the things that you count, and you will finally see that atheism is a religion. Of course, that wouldn't mean you would admit it.

Cool
31575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: March 01, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
....

First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool
31576  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: March 01, 2016, 12:43:34 AM
You're talking about Jesus a lot, but we got no proof of his existence either.

How can I believe in someone that maybe never existed?

The evidence is the Bible N.T. witnesses.    Cool

So a 1500 years old book writen 500 years after the related event is a proof for you? Oo

Damn! No wonder why you believe in God, you don't need anything solid to start believing xD

What 1500 y o book are you talking about?

Look at all the law books in America that have court cases listed with witnesses who either free or convict people. Somebody believed them, right?

Cool
31577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: March 01, 2016, 12:39:26 AM

One might be able to measure air. And one might be able to see the effects of wind. But one can barely measure the wind at all... a little in its average speed or temperature in an area.

It is the same with God. Since the combined scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, have proven that God exists, all one need do to detect and measure aspects of God is to detect and measure aspects of the universe.

Perhaps when people can finally think out the math of more that 6 dimensions clearly, they will be able to find ways of "seeing" and measuring the soul.

Cool

You keep telling shit about your freaking "laws" without ever giving out a correct definition for entropy...

Where do I tell anybody about my laws? If I do, I barely do.

Entropy, complex universe, and cause and effect are standard science laws. If you knew how to use the Internet, you would have been able to look these laws up yourself. What, does your mommy do your typing for you?

Cool
31578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 29, 2016, 09:17:48 PM
Tronald Dump Truck.  I mean Donald (Trump) Duck.    Cheesy
31579  Other / Off-topic / Re: Living in Russia. on: February 29, 2016, 09:12:10 PM
You should stop posting topless photos, this place isn't a porn forum.

The point is that guns don't hurt anything or anybody. It is the attitude of the people that does the harm.

Russia has lost a lot more of its religion than America. That's why Americans are much safer with guns that Russians are.

Smiley

This is such a foolish philosophy. Guns do kill people, very easily. If you get in a fist fight, chances are any party will walk away with a few bruises or maybe a broken bone. If you get into a gun fight, someone is likely to die or have life changing injuries. I have seen far too many people lose their temper and easy access to a weapon like that will end up with serious consequences. Oh and as Vika pointed out - America is the home of gun massacres so don't get all preachy here.

This is foolish philosophy. People who have guns are a lot more careful about getting into a fight. Besides, it isn't the guns that kill. It's the people using them that do.

Gun massacres? Didn't you ever hear of Stalin?    Cool

I'm not going to rake over all the evidence because that would take a million years and you are already hardened in your pro gun stance. In this rapidly advancing new world we live in - there are always going to be unstable, scared, enraged or downright psychopathic people. It may happen to any one of us, if only for a short and fleeting moment. A gun can then change everything.

Okay, when the armed crook attacks you, get a bunch of your unarmed friends together, and order them to jump him before you step in.

Wishing guns to simply drop off the face of the earth isn't going to happen. And I would rather have some form of gun protection than not.

Smiley
31580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 29, 2016, 09:06:22 PM
Atheism = Poison ? IMO, Religion is poison to the mind but Non-belief is God is the true poison of the soul!!


One of the most poisonous religions is the religion of atheism. It has such a variety of dogma that it seems to not be religion, until you stand it up next to the definition of "religion" and compare.

Cool
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