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3161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 05:14:42 PM
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3162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 05:11:13 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting really weary of the whole "Winklevii ETF launch soon, it will save us!" crap.  Not that I don't want to see that happen.  I do, but not only have people been saying for 4-5 months now SoonTM! about that ETF launching, but it could literally be like another year away, or more.  I really don't want to read about it being "just around the corner" for the next 12+ months, from people who really have no fkn clue when it will launch.

It's the equivalent of saying "Bitcoin to $40K any day now!"  So tiring.

It could be another year... or never..... but they "normally" take about a year or just over... I think Sept 14 - Jan 15  is a good a "guess" as any. They have certainly ticked all the boxes in the correct way, and I think there is a good chance we will see the ETF this year or first quarter of next year...

Will it be big for BTC? - most likely, is it the only thing that could push up the price? I really do not think so.. there is so much going on...  that this is just another arrow in the quiver.

3163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 05:08:50 PM

That man was a disaster! Western civilizations downfall is partly this mans fault.

The more I think about it, the more I cannot find a single modern nightmare problem that Richard Nixon did not have a gigantic hand in. Although I do agree, Churchhill is a huge racist imperialist dick.

Well, there are worse leaders:



the west used and screwed these guys too... hence the hermit(ness)
3164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 03:28:05 PM
Hey kids! this weeks (years) word is "de-dollarisation"  Grin
3165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 03:24:40 PM


yeah there was a soft spot in that plan.... one that a bullet found.
3166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
No its not sad, its just typical. Greed caused them to miss the good buying opportunity and now they dwell in delusion that it was not a greed but a "smart move" to wait. Deep inside they are shaking in fear, but mask it with retarded smiley spamming ( Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy etc.) to fake confidence.

The same could be said about the most aggressive of bulls during a price decline and subsequent flash crash, no?

Same denial, same greed, just applied in the opposite direction.

The difference is... a lot of bulls, are on here and have old accounts , snr , hero, ledg... and are "real"  and not all but a good 90%- 95% of the bears that pop up when there is a down move are these daft tools that start tens of newbie accounts and start ranting utter crap... which is just a blatant and poor attempt at propaganda, they fool no one, but they persist, it is embarrassing. Also I think most "permabulls" really believe in the tech, and the prospects of BTC, hence why they think the price will go up... and a fair few bears actually also think the price is going up long term, but just not yet, and so they believe , but they are betting against in the short term for profit.. so the bulls at least are true to what they believe, the bears are playing both sides of the fence.

 
3167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 02:20:27 PM
LTC is up like 90% since 2-3 days ago.
Why do you pump it here you need to sell or smth?


What are you talking about?  I was responding to the previous post.

My independent observation is ltc is up 90% from 2-3 days ago when it was $3.60

Now is $6.08  you do what you want, buy, sell, trade.  I think it is a falling knife since it is being disconnected from btc the last 3-4 months.  People are bailing out of most alt coins actually.
And that is the right thing to do... bail now... from altcoins I mean...

Thumbs up.

Thats what I think.  All were riding coat tails of btc, but with problems with adoption and other things like fraud and wallets etc, it is a tough road to be legitimate.


I think a fair few alts will ride the coat tails of the next BTC surge too... and maybe the one after that too... sure some will go , some will not... and in fact a routing of the alts (and BTC) before a ramp up in BTC makes sense...

3168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 02:18:00 PM


and then we will turn our back on every promise we made to nearly all of our allies and leave the world in a giant mess... give up our empire, and make the world pay for all of the terrible decisions we made and people we screwed, for decades and decades to come.
3169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2014, 01:27:29 PM
No DDOS. Thats old.

The main server met a network issue, they say.


Ops...

Edit: they are back!

it is back

edit - wowah
3170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 20, 2014, 08:28:36 PM
Another big move inbound. Guess in which direction. Hint: it will be the most painful one.


a kick in the nuts ?
3171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 04:54:15 PM
[...] Margin trading is evil [...]
Generalization is evil.

As a generalisation I would agree with what you say..... in general.... but not in this case... those borrowed funds are not being made available just to help people out... out of the kindness of brokers etc hearts... they know the game... it is their game... and their game is rigged for them to win...   Long term margin trading is hazardous to fish,  and I think detrimental to crypto.

Also I said that it is "in general" evil - not always and in of its self...  but the outcome is almost always the same in the long run... a few do well.. the rest...  get made into sausage
3172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
Leverage is evil in general and shorting on leverage with margin is terrible idea in crypto, for all but the very best of traders....with deep pockets, not only for the individual but for crypto in general leverage sucks balls... as the flash twatage on BTCe  shows... useless leftover from the dying system... what is wrong with shorting thr traditional way? no for some reason, do it on borrowed funds, where you can get hunt stopped  seems like a reasonable idea for some...  wonder why? oh greed...  really wish leverage and margin trading never made it across to BTC personally... and I generally do not touch it... once upon a time with some low priced silver and low leverage sure.. but that really DID make sense.. and it was long not short.  

Meat and bone.....churn...churn...churn.... profit for exchanges churn churn hunt stop hunt stop swing churn, burn and fuck the consequences to the market, well there we go


Leverage is in general evil....think of it the same way as a casino... the odds are not on your side...of course, and if they were do you really think that an exchange/or broker would offer you "free money" to gamble with ?


Man each to their own... and those with the skills and the bankroll of course it can be childs play... in the long run most everyone else as in 90% of people get put through the grinder until they become so despondant they quit at a major loss, seen it over and over and over again.. sure there are some winners.. but much like a poker table... if you are looking around trying to figure out who the sucker is.... then it is most likely you.


Be careful out there...




 
3173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 04:29:31 PM
3174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 03:52:21 PM
My guess is that this is mostly from big boys creating entrance points prior to ETFs.

Hey proudhon, are you currently a bear a bull or a proudhon? Smiley

It seems like the previous bubbles have desensitized traders and hodlers so much that the btc price has to smack us really long and hard in order for capitulation to occur. Such bad sentiment. wow.

Long term I'm bullish.  Short term, I haven't a clue what the coming weeks will look like.

confirmed?
3175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 02:31:39 PM
Security Firm Claims New Leads in Search for Missing Mt Gox Bitcoin

Quote
“There’s a lot of huge stuff that’s going to come out, and this is just the beginning.”


could be a goxcoin pump soon


There has got to be some really fancy large, dessert-like coffee involved.....
3176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 02:18:36 PM

Shorting LTC at an average of 4.3... feeling pretty damned proud of myself right now. That's seriously an impossible bet to lose







impossible bet to lose - are you sure?  looking pretty possible

edit - or were you joking all along?

edit 2 where are your stops?
3177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
Huge 462.9 hidden bid at Finex. Hundreds of coins bought so far.

Hundreds of coins dumped so far...

There will be big dumps along the way if bitcoin goes down to $440 and less, Winklevoss twins and Tim Draper could panic sell.

I would think that Draper and Winklevii aren't worried about their next meal or their retirement. No need to panic. They, along with GABI, are actually watching all this with some glee. Doesn't hurt any of them and might actually help.

Vuduchyld - Even though you are suggesting that neither Draper nor Winklevii are manipulating, you are also stating that they ARE profiting from whatever price lowering and/or manipulating that IS occurring.... In other words, you are implying support for the conspiracy theory which suggests that they have an insider's incentive to manipulate and to make EVEN more money.

ftfy  Wink hope I did it right  Smiley
3178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 01:50:29 PM
I had 90 BTC long at 450 yesterday morning. If that sucker btc-e didn't drop a bollock and called me for half of that bid, I could make a killing today. Instead I lost 15 BTC. Fuck. It was so reasonable to put bids at 450.

leverage is evil
3179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
you have no credibility unless you tell us who you "used to be"  which I notice you declined to do...nor the names of the people flocking to you for advice... everything that comes out of your mouth and that of your sockpuppets is total crapola.

if you absorb views from an evil dummy you have only youself to blame, i think.  just ignore and save us all some grief.  would you listen to 'freddy kruger'?  

For a moment I thought you had written "freddy krugman" and that actually sounded scarier to me.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
3180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2014, 01:48:31 PM
you have no credibility unless you tell us who you "used to be"  which I notice you declined to do...nor the names of the people flocking to you for advice... everything that comes out of your mouth and that of your sockpuppets is total crapola.

if you absorb views from an evil dummy you have only youself to blame, i think.  just ignore and save us all some grief.  would you listen to 'freddy kruger'?  

For some reason this "one" got my attention and I wanted to have some fun with the idiot...and you know throw a spanner into his little story for any newbs reading his shyte
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