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3161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Questions I have about Bitcoin on: May 27, 2020, 07:39:50 AM
It definitely will. Hypothetically, quantum computers are powerful enough to break sha-256 encryption. The problem is there is no quantum computers yet. If they were exist today, that would be a problem for the bitcoin protocol, it would be already dead. The main advantage of bitcoin, however, is the fact that Bitcoin is open source software, which means everyone can contribute in it and develop some solutions for better quantum resistance of bitcoin. I assume it is going to be easier to do than inventing of powerful enough quantum computer. I don't know if it is possible to mine bitcoin using quantum computer, but it would also require some changes in the protocol to avoid possible centralization of mining or 51% attack.
Quantum computers exist. Quantum computers just hasn't reached the level to pose a threat to encryption standards in the current day. Hypothetically, quantum computers can break ECDSA (and other asymmetrical algorithms) with Shor's algorithm. Quantum computer can theoretically weaken SHA256 (and symmetrical algorithms) but to a point whereby it's still very very hard to break it.

3162  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Running testnet on: May 27, 2020, 04:25:18 AM
I thought that it should be manually indicated by the user that is why I tried to experiment to one of my unused addresses  Cheesy. If I am not mistaken, should I tick the box in the settings? Tool => Preferences => Transaction => Use Change Address
That option will result in Electrum sending the funds to a change address generated by the wallet. If the option is not selected, whatever is left after the fees are deducted is sent to the origin address. Ie. If the box is not checked, an A -> B transaction will result in the change being sent back to address A.

Yes! That's the correct one, it is too little to recognize the hardened symbol at first glance. I just noticed that the " ' " is only present at the first three level of the derivation path. Why is that? Is it some sort of security feature why it is named "hardened" because they cannot be customize by the user?
BIP32 has an intrinsic flaw which allows the full master private key to be compromised once the master public key and any of the child private key is revealed. It doesn't have to be hardened down to the last path so you can still generate non-hardened addresses using an extended public key. If you were to harden the path the whole way, the only way to generate a hardened address is to use the private key.
3163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Taxes on Bitcoins: Unreasonable or essential? on: May 27, 2020, 02:44:03 AM
Taxes are pretty essential for any country but having anything more than 10%, IMO is too much. Is there any legistation regarding the tax in the countries? If its specifically directed towards crypto, then it's just trying to discourage people from using Bitcoin. Capital gain tax is pretty common among most countries and if the taxes is counted as a capital gain tax, then it's alright.

Bitcoin is a commodity and should be treated as such. Having a high capital gain tax is a whole other issue altogether, since it applies to things like capital gains from property, stocks etc.
3164  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Security vs Quantum Computing on: May 27, 2020, 01:33:53 AM
Quantum computing is nowhere near the levels that is needed to break ECDSA.

It's true that Shor's algorithm makes ECDSA vulnerable to attacks by quantum computers which reduces the time needed significantly. However, if you look at it, the amount of qubit that is required to break ECDSA is estimated to be ~1500. The best quantum computer right now has 53 qubit.

If you don't reuse addresses, the effects are negated since it still takes time for the quantum computer to crack your keys. I don't see a real threat right now but the community would probably act on it when the need arises.
3165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where are block rewards distributed in Bitcoin core? on: May 26, 2020, 11:14:29 PM
I mean it's just a fork I'm learning with for fun. So is there documentation for this then?
Most miners don't actually use getblocktemplate anymore and they have their own software written to accommodate for their needs (ASICBoost, custom msg in coinbase etc).

The documentation is here: https://developer.bitcoin.org/reference/rpc/getblocktemplate.html. The code is written here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/793e0ff22cbace2a0fbe1e4a2e88a7bc6bf44502/src/rpc/mining.cpp#L488.
3166  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Satori Chips, Magical Crypto Conference Set, Gold KeepKey on: May 26, 2020, 11:06:54 PM
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3170  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Coinbase Maturity time as a disincentive for 51% attack on merged mined coin on: May 26, 2020, 02:38:17 PM
Lets say you didn't have merged mining and this large pool decided to shift to mining your coin to see if they could make more money on your coin than the big coin they were mining before.  They figure out they are making less so they give up mining your coin because they thought it sucked and are going to go back to the big coin.  They would sell all their coins they earned from your blockchain then privately fork the blockchain so no one else can mine just to troll the blockchain.  This seems to happen often with small coins that share an algorithm with a large coin.  Merged mining helps prevent that by letting the large pool mine both at once so they don't get bored of mining your coin.
Why do they need to test it out? It isn't rocket science to predict how much they can earn. So pools are willing to throw their hashpower at worthless coin just to throw them? Preventing others from mining requires hashpower thats directed towards the coin for long periods of time, and thus wasting money.

I've actually never heard of this happening in my life. Got any sources?
But lets say they get bored of your coin anyway even with merged mining and decide to sell all the coins they earned on your blockchain and then 51% attack you.  How can we counter that?  Well we could increase the coinbase maturity time.  Instead of waiting a few dozen blocks and they can sell everything they have earned and attack the chain, if we make that maturity time several months long (say 9 months), thousands and thousands of blocks, then it is really hard for them to quickly sell everything they have earned.
Okay, lets stop this. I don't think I want to mine a coin if it takes several months for me to even be able to touch my coin. I'll steer far far away from any coin that does this.

Remember, this means that I can release my coin today and it'll take months of effort to get paid. Even then, I can't guarantee how much I'll earn because no one can trade it yet.
3171  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum 4.0.0.a0 - New Feature on: May 26, 2020, 02:12:02 PM
Anyone knows the actual link to download the latest electrum LN test version?? I'd like to test it on linux.
Just use the source code from github and compile yourself. The alpha updates are merged regularly. It's not stable yet though, use with caution.

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum
3172  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fees high on: May 26, 2020, 01:47:23 PM
Do you thing lighting network And segwit can solve bitcoin high fees problem ?? No can’t.
I never said they could...

You cannot deny that the capacity of the network has increased significantly from the past. Segwit has made transactions smaller and increased the theoretical total transactions per block. Lightning network has allowed for 2nd layer transactions. It has by no means stopped the high fees problem; adoption rate is way too low and its no silver bullet either.

As of now, the fee is approx. ~60 satoshi/byte for a reasonable timeframe which gives the total transaction fee of a normal transaction to be $0.50. Isn't that cheaper than a lot of the payment processors?
3173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fees high on: May 26, 2020, 12:54:01 PM
What do you want to do about it? There are developments on the scalability of Bitcoin and some progress being made (Segwit, lightning network). More could be done but there's obviously loads of compromises that has to be made at the expense of a larger transaction volume.

Fees is decided by the free market. You could pay a lower fee but it'll take a longer time but that's all that you can do right now.
3174  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Free Raffle] Funded Custom Coldkey - ANONMINER.10 on: May 26, 2020, 11:15:59 AM
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3175  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Malwarebytes stopping outbound phishing and exploit attempts from Electrum on: May 26, 2020, 10:41:03 AM
As for Electrum, I have been using it for years without any problems by my AV or Malwarebytes Premium. Maybe it’s just that I’ve never used it for MB problematic servers, because how else to explain that the same software causes problems for someone and not for someone else? One explanation is that the OP uses an older version of Malwarebytes, and new version have fix for false positive detection.
I've just scanned it with VirusTotal and the detection rate is 11/72. It's not a huge number but it could throw off newbies. IIRC, it started with the use of some component of Python within the program. IIRC, they tried to improve on the detection rate but some of the antivirus still detects it, albeit as riskware.

It's Microsoft Defender btw, better AVs like Malwarebytes are more prudent with their detection.
3176  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Malwarebytes stopping outbound phishing and exploit attempts from Electrum on: May 26, 2020, 08:07:05 AM
^
As long as the signature match then you should be fine. But how exactly does this installation on portable Electrum happened? I use one and I don't remember any installation was required to run it.

I misuse the word installation, Sorry for that, I download portable version so that it will skip installation process since I will be using it for sign message only. The warning from my windows defender pop up suddenly but I neglect it since I downloaded it on official website. I'm just a bit worried since I saw this thread tho. I still have a trauma for my loss ladt year for downloading minex wallet app on official website then suddenly someone access my wallet even though I never use the wallet for a year and I check regularly the balance.
You shouldn't rely on "downloading from the official website" as the software being legit. Checking it against the signature is a safer way to verify software as the person signing it would essentially be endorsing it as it being legit. Once you download any malware/fake softwares, your security is as good as gone, no matter whether you delete it or not.

Antivirus seems to be particularly sensitive to the Electrum's build and often tags it as malicious. It's nothing to worry about *IF* you verify the binaries.
3177  Economy / Economics / Re: What would a Crypto-only economy look like? on: May 26, 2020, 05:55:01 AM
I imagine that it could be worse in some aspects. Transactions would be done faster, things would be more streamlined and it would be easier for people to transact.

However, the story could be different for those living in less developed countries; Lack of internet access/ stable electrical power would make it hard for them to transact. For the governments, it means that hyperinflation could be a thing of the past but it would be harder for them to
control capital flows within the country. Illegal activities would run rampant with a less regulated currency.
3178  Other / Meta / Re: I am sick of this... on: May 26, 2020, 04:26:35 AM
Anyway, on a serious note, I really do not see any problem with any of it. This is a forum and everyone can have their own style of delivering their opinion. Maybe it's not much easy for new users to understand the style of specific users but once you get used to knowing the users more or less, then you will easily understand their posts and their explanations behind a statement.
I'm mostly interested about topics going into the technical aspect of Bitcoin but I've seen loads and loads of statements that are just outright wrong. There is no problem with expressing opinions but it is extremely frustrating to see users posting things that doesn't make sense and doesn't show any willingness to learn. The worst part is that there's a chance for someone to heed their advice and potentially lose money. I do report them and their responses gets removed but it's still pretty common.

I do agree that the differing views does make for a more diverse discussion and I enjoy seeing a few of those who genuinely try to substantiate their opinion even though it differs from the norm.
3179  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: offline node and my priv keys not working on: May 26, 2020, 03:44:10 AM
The reason is just keep organization clean and sane. If I have addresses I don't want to use anymore, I want to remove them from node so that they don't bother me in the future.
The address would just sit inside the wallet quietly, doubt it would bother you.  Cheesy

I use Bitcoin Core by using the request tab to generate addresses and I don't have to be confused by the addresses that were used by me. If any transactions somehow gets sent to my addresses (by accident or not), I would still be able to retrieve it.
So, because this is an HD wallet, I can only remove addresses by removing the wallet file/folder?
No, the behaviour has been this way since a long time ago. Bitcoin Core doesn't support removing addresses because its not meant to be done. If you really want to remove addresses from your wallet.dat, consider using pywallet.
3180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoins are lost everyday? on: May 25, 2020, 02:55:57 PM
Saying that Bitcoin has 3.6 million coins out of the current 18 million right now burned is a great exaggeration. Even if you count out those Bitcoins that were intentionally burned, lost or so, it still doesn't come anywhere near even a million.

Satoshi coins or any coins that were mined in the early days should not be considered lost. There was a coin movement from an address that was dormant for many years. Coins that were mined in the early days should not be counted out.
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