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2281  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: How to determine whether an address starting with '3' is SegWit or Not? on: January 17, 2021, 11:14:39 AM
Are there any wallet which utilize P2WSH today?
Electrum. Their 2FA TrustedCoin as well as their multisig wallet supports P2WSH but you can choose P2SH as well.

P2SH-P2WSH is quite rare I think, I haven't found a wallet that supports that as of yet. Its like a P2SH-P2WPKH but with P2WSH instead.
2282  Other / Meta / Re: Users who are blocked without even writing a single post on the forum on: January 17, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
I somehow thought that it is in the range of a few k satoshis, so more like a symbolic amount, but not 0.0011BTC. So high enough to stop abusers but not too high in order not to deter people from bitcointalk. And those are the numbers of users that paid the fee when BTC was much lower. If there was no evil fee reduction in the meantime, that would mean that someone would have to pay almost 40 USD to remove that thing. In that case, percentage can be only lower.
It's capped at the price of the copper membership which is currently 0.0006BTC.
One more question: when you pay the evil IP fee, does this resets "evil" back to zero so IP is clean from that moment?
No. It only unblocks the account. Units of evil decrease with time.
2283  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin Got Hacked From My Wallet on: January 17, 2021, 06:50:49 AM
When did they change from .info to .com?  Now that you mentioned, I think when I registered the account, it was still .info, but now when I clicked the Support menu in the wallet app, it took me to .com.
They use both.


Didn’t Nano Ledger just get hacked as well?  Is it still safe to use?
The device itself is safe to use. It's more of a leak than a hack. User's shipping information were leaked because of their point of sale interface which was breached. The device and it's private keys/seeds are still safe.
2284  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin Got Hacked From My Wallet on: January 17, 2021, 04:39:51 AM
Blockchain.com is ridiculously incompetent and I would steer far away from them.

As you've mentioned, you were hacked 3 years ago, why are you still trying to reach them? You probably won't gain a single clue by asking them anyways, they probably won't keep logs for so long. I doubt that they would compensate you for your loss or anything. Were you using Tor at the time of the hack? Is your computer infected with malware?
2285  Other / Meta / Re: Users who are blocked without even writing a single post on the forum on: January 17, 2021, 04:32:56 AM
But what if we reduced it to 1-3 days and on top of that, they have to do a bunch of things before they can post, maybe like 1-3 daily log in requirement, Bitcoin address requirement (It doesn't have to be their BTC that they are using, it's like for verification only), Bitcoin message signature (maybe if it can be somehow be checked automatically). It's like email verification but it's Bitcoin address that we are verifying.

For spammers, this will be a very tedious thing to do than finding a clean IP and spamming registration on that IP.

This will give new users 2 options, do that or pay the fee.
Won't do. Some of the new users that I've seen were urgently seeking some technical help with their transactions and would probably won't come back if they're made to wait. It is very easy to circumvent log in requirements or address verification. It is not tedious for them to farm large number of accounts at once.

On the contrary, with every trial of finding a clean IP, they need to solve the annoying captcha, register and see the warning. While they can probably shorten their time by using different IP range per trial, it would still be more tedious than buying a bunch of IPs and automate those tasks that you mentioned.
2286  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Typing the seed - How safe is it? on: January 17, 2021, 03:31:37 AM
Disconnecting your internet when using Electrum is not sufficient. If you want to be foolproof, you have to set up a dedicated computer that doesn't go online and handles all your transaction signing. It is also known as an airgapped wallet. Those are slightly fussy to maintain and use but are fairly safe for most use cases.

If you want to have the convenience and not worry about leaking your sensitive information, you should be looking at hardware wallets. They can be used with any online computers as the seeds are kept within the device and it won't be leaked to the online computer. For newbies, it'd be far more convenient to use a hardware wallet instead of a cold storage. Both can be used with Electrum but it depends on which route you want to go.
2287  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Trustless cloud mining on: January 16, 2021, 06:25:44 PM
Exactly. It could be useful to receive some smaller amounts by forming some kind of CPU pool. For example: if mining 1 BTC needs a lot of power, then mining single satoshi is 10^8 times easier. Then, if there are many clients, that could be promising somehow. "Cloud" or "pool" mining operator can just receive shares and send payments in this "LN-like way". Sooner or later, millions of such miners could produce a block.
The trick is to produce a block with your CPU pool. My ASIC would outpace probably thousands if not millions of actual PCs. A pool wouldn't pay out unless they generate a block that is why PPS is usually for more established pools because they can afford to pay out the funds in advance while smaller pools pays out in PPLNS.

Most cloud mining websites, or at least those legit ones takes in deposits for contracts to cover the running costs of their ASIC farms. If the funds gets locked in the multisig, then there is no way for them to pay off their expenses in the short turn and they might as well just mine for themselves. There is a reason why they sell their hashpower and that is to eliminate the possibility of profitability loss due to exchange rate or difficulty changes. Locking them in a 2-of-2 multisig with no mediator is dangerous. Either party could refuse to sign a transaction and effectively holding one another hostage over the funds.

I don't think trustless cloud mining will ever exist. The nature of cloud mining requires the payment to be done upfront.
2288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Old bitcoin Core Software from 2011 on: January 16, 2021, 05:50:13 PM
Your wallet.dat should be located in your data directory which should be in /Library/Application Support/Bitcoin/ by default.

Find your wallet.dat and back it up to somewhere safe. After that, you can install the latest version of Bitcoin Core and wait for it to synchronize.
2289  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Core 0.21.0 no incoming peers over Tor on: January 16, 2021, 05:27:21 PM
I'm having the same problem as well. I think that it is because of the use of v3 addresses. The gossiping protocol was updated to support v3 addresses only in this release, if I'm not wrong via BIP155. Older clients wouldn't be able to receive and see your node as they are not able to receive ADDRv2 messages, which is also why peers.dat for this version is incompatible with the previous. Are any of your peers 0.21.0?

You can try replacing the information in onion_v3_private_key with onion_private_key and it should revert back to v2 address and should solve your problem, if you want.

Nodes running previous versions of Core don't understand Tor v3 and so can't connect to your address.
They don't understand addrv2 address type and thus won't connect to your node automatically.

There shouldn't be a problem if you're specifically connecting to that specific node using addnode/connect as long as your Tor version supports it, regardless of Core version. It doesn't check what kind of onion address type it is.


After reading the merged commits, there's more than the implementation of BIP155 and older nodes can't connect to v3 addresses as it won't recognize it though it doesn't throw an error when using connect=.
2290  Other / Meta / Re: Users who are blocked without even writing a single post on the forum on: January 16, 2021, 03:13:26 PM
This is actually a case in the Philippines because our internet service providers (mobile data internet providers) is reusing shared IP which is why almost every IP has evil score in it. -snip-

Though would it be a good idea to, let's say, instead of permanently blocking newbies with evil score, give them a 14 days restriction to familiarize themselves to the forum? Like every person who registers in an IP address with blue or less evil score will have to wait 14 days to post in the forum.

Or maybe like instead of paying the fees, they have the option to insert their BTC address and sign a message? and after registering, direct them to a tutorial on how to get a Bitcoin wallet and how to sign.
It sucks that dynamic IPs are abused so easily and that behavior lies with your ISP. The ease of changing IP just makes spamming a lot easier.

Unfortunately, the best way to deter spammers is through some financial penalty. The measures that you describe would probably put off most newbies when you subject them to such a long wait and the second wouldn't do anything to prevent spamming.
I wonder how many users that had no previous contact with bitcoin, never bought or sell any would do that for the first time just to get an access to this forum. By the way, how much is that evil fee at the moment?
Not much, but presumably some if they are low enough. Residential IPs are not as blacklisted as VPNs and Tor IPs, unless those IP in the same range happens to be spamming the forum. I would think that it would be reasonable to allow those with higher evil units to purchase a copper membership from the beginning. After all, they could get something in return for paying the evil fees.

The evil fees decay with time and it's dependent on how many people abused that range of IP.
2291  Other / Meta / Re: Users who are blocked without even writing a single post on the forum on: January 16, 2021, 12:45:28 PM
Also, many newbies will not know about this and ways to go and just leave the forum because they do not even know much about bitcoin and bitcoin wallet.
Do you need an account to see the posts? Most newbies that only seeks to use Bitcoin probably won't bother to use the forum at all.

I suggested this forum for more information and he tried to register.
He got this message saying he had to pay to unblock himself.
He tried to register from home and I'm 100 % he didn't use public VPN but IP from his Internet provider.
Of course he has completely given up on this forum and has no plans to pay anything.
Even if he wanted to pay he can't because he's just heard about bitcoin, he doesn't even have an open btc wallet, nor does he even know how bitcoins are sent or received.
He's a complete beginner on this and it's really funny of people like that, who by mistake or by chance ended up on this list, to ask them to pay to unblock themselves.
It's just not right and fair and no one can convince me otherwise.
That's unfortunately one of the tradeoffs associated when you have to actively try to fight spammers. If you were to take away evil score, it would be way easier for the forum to be filled with SEO spams since you don't have the need to rotate the IPs when creating an account. It's not possible for them to hide a newbie's post because it would be tedious for mods to be sifting through the numerous posts every single day on top of the normal spams. Newbie jails or any sort of it's derivatives does not serve useful in the long term; limiting newbie's discussions to a section will inevitably result in a single section having way lower quality posts than the rest and wouldn't result in most of the normal forum users to be engaging in discussions in that section. What's the use if you were to create a ringfence around them and not letting them discuss on the other parts of the forum?

Evil score is probably here to stay. Most users shouldn't be facing too much of an issue when joining unless their IP range has been infested with spammers and/or their ISPs assigns a very small IP range and you happen to be in the same IP range as the spammers. Here's a visualization of the evil score situation back in 2018: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4101785.0.


Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.
2292  Other / Meta / Re: Users who are blocked without even writing a single post on the forum on: January 16, 2021, 11:09:54 AM
Okay, I understand that there are a lot of scammers on this forum and it's probably one kind of protecting our community from them.
Spammers.

The evil score is calculated with regards to how much spam has originated from that IP block. As such, the nature of most Tor and VPNs will result in some form of evil score. It's quite rare to be able to get an IP without any evil score on it when using Tor from my own experience but paid VPNs tends to be abused less. Having a newbie jail, or anything similar that you've described isn't an option, as theymos has mentioned. The problem is not with the scams but the problem is with the spams they would bring.

The way around this is to use your actual IP or go to a local coffee shop to register. You can continue using tor after that if you want.
2293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core P2P Implementation BLOWS on: January 16, 2021, 10:15:49 AM
You can lock the thread if you don't want any replies, though I'm not sure why you would want to do that.

I'm not going to suggest anything to help you synchronize quicker since you said so in the OP. Bitcoin Core's P2P protocol is fairly well established and I've always had an abundance of nodes to connect to after my client retrieves it from the DNS seeds. How do you think we can improve on that? Could you make a pull request on that topic if you have any good ideas?

I can supply you with a pre-validated data directory which would pretty much cut down your bottleneck to your I/O and also the download speed. The question lies with, are you willing to trust me? I'm just a stranger on the internet and you wouldn't know if I edited the chainstate to include transactions that wouldn't exist.

Ps. Just because you're having some problems doesn't mean the whole system is problematic.
2294  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: I meet a problem. send BTC to Huobi on: January 16, 2021, 08:34:28 AM
Thanks your answer.

I can Cancel this transaction from Electrum wallet? my Electrum ver is 4.0.9, nofound menu CPFP item.
If it can cancel how to do and how much fee will cost?
Your transaction has replace by fee flag.

In Electrum, select and right click your transaction then there should be an option called Cancel (Double Spend) and it should show you your new fee rate. The new fees must be higher than the current fee by at least 1 satoshi/byte though to guarantee a faster confirmation will incur a larger fees/vbyte. You should be given an option with the floating fees slider.
2295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin scammers have a hard time with grammar on: January 16, 2021, 08:28:47 AM
If you can spot their mistakes, then you're probably not the person they're looking to scam. With most spam mails, they tend to have obvious tell tale signs but some are done intentionally. This filters the target audience and only targets those who are less meticulous and more gullible. Of course, this may not always be the case but it has happened often enough.
2296  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum to notify on address status change (CLI) on: January 16, 2021, 05:44:51 AM
I understand that these messages to backend reflects changes on address (confirmations)
status is hash of transaction history, ok. You said "status" is useless.

How I can confirm payment? if "status" would be equal to transaction ID - I can check it my "electrum get_tx_status txID"? but..

thanx.
It isn't. The script hash format is defined here: https://electrumx-spesmilo.readthedocs.io/en/latest/protocol-basics.html#status. You can't reverse the SHA256 hash, you cannot get the inputs of that specific hash. This command merely indicates that there has been some changes to the address, ie getting confirmed or having new transactions. If you want, then you can call getaddresshistory whenever the status changes.
2297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Idea for an inflationary Bitcoin with (automatic-)regulated supply on: January 16, 2021, 04:25:12 AM
That's an altcoin.

When people talk about creating a Bitcoin with fundamentally different principles from Bitcoin for which the general consensus isn't reached, it is an altcoin. A fixed market cap is possibly one of the few things that Bitcoin shouldn't have to change as it doesn't necessarily pose a problem to Bitcoin as a currency. I don't believe you should adjust the block reward based on the difficulty as this will result in the price instability when compared to other cryptos or fiat. When the crypto isn't valued in terms of some other currency, it could make sense. Steady inflation isn't impossible and it has been done. It's viability as a currency remains to be seen.
2298  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thats weird on: January 16, 2021, 04:19:30 AM
It's not. If you look at the addresses in the transaction, the first few addresses are unique and forms a sentence if you put them together. It's a typical advertisement spam. Some bots usually parse the addresses that were in the earlier Bitcoin block's coinbase and sends funds to them with a specially crafted address as a form of advertisment, in hopes that they are of sufficient interest and people would notice them. It's only indicative of something when funds are sent from the address, not when funds are sent to it.
2299  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum to notify on address status change (CLI) on: January 16, 2021, 04:03:44 AM
How I can check status of transactions from the hash of the transaction history ?
hash of tx history is not tx_hash (I can check tx_hash on blockchain)
The method got changed to blockchain.scripthash.subscribe. You can't. The hash orders the transactions in specific order together with their confirmations, -1 for unconfirmed and 0 for confirmed. The way this works is for scripts to monitor and compare the hashes between different calls and they will know that there is either a new transaction or an unconfirmed transaction has gotten a confirmation, this allows for a quick and easy way to determine the status of transactions without much hassle. It's a one way function so you can't get the list from the hash alone.

If you want to get the list of transaction and it's information, you should be looking at blockchain.scripthash.get_history.
2300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: How to determine whether an address starting with '3' is SegWit or Not? on: January 15, 2021, 01:07:37 PM
How is it wrong, are multisig addresses not nested segwit? Or, why?
Doesn't have to be.

P2SH addresses (AKA those starting with 3) are defined in BIP16. It defines addresses which has a specific condition within the redeem script that has to be fulfilled for the transaction to be vallid. Multisig addresses do not necessarily have to be a Segwit; there are also bech32 script addresses (P2WSH) which allows you to have scripts in bech32 or P2SH-P2WSH which would yield a P2SH address but those are for a different topic. OP is specifically asking about P2SH addresses and they are versatile in the sense that you can put complicated scripts and conditions for the UTXOs to be spent. Most of the multisig that most services uses are not P2SH-P2WSH but are actually just a P2SH by itself without any witness scripts.

So, it'll be incorrect to say that all P2SH addresses are nested Segwit. Nested segwit is just a very small subset of P2SH scripting.
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