AEON bransh:Well done Smooth! Lots of new blood coming. And its just the beginning... Hero member dev, people with tech background, old forum members, super cheap price after drama... Couldn't resist again... Seriously... 7 millions coins out there and trading at 4k... Its a robbery...  This is a normal troll, any cooperation with him is not possible? I just bought some because i like and respect Smooth and any fairly launched cryptonote coin is all right with me. XMR, BBR and AEON  |
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So now that you have seen the huge bias that you have versus the project, read the whole trust rating again and delete it.
What difference does it make if he is biased if he is correct? If I tell you your house is on fire, are you going to check or ponder about my motives for telling you (especially if you see smoke pluming from the street you live on)? |
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Smooth has been posting sometimes dozens, sometimes only a few posts every day on that thread. For many months. This is a lie or an error, I do not know which. Therefore, of course, your conclusions can not follow from a false premise. I don't know, does "every 24 hours" = "every day"? ...this warning will be posted every 24 hours on the BCT dash thread...
That is between generalizethis and blockafett/blobafett2 to work out, who collaborated to draft that statement. Perhaps a different frequency would be considered more fair, in balancing the interests of disclosure. I don't know. Blocka hasn't said word one, so every day seems to work for him. |
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Learn to write what you mean. Reread and you'll see that it sounds like you're implying that he lied about the 1000 commits, and after your github research  , found out that he was misleading us and only has 9 commits. Not really interested in nit-picking over semantics Generalize, if you don't think my English is good then that's up to you. If you're upset because you didn't understand something, I already explained how it's riculous that I meant to suggest Smooth did a thousand commits of anything in Github, i'm saying totally the opposite. I added a grammar correction to my above post--you might learn something about how to pin-down your correct meaning. If you give me a 50/50 reading with a dasher, I'm going to guess misleading or false every time--the apple doesn't fall far from the Dev.  |
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I'm sure he'll be crushed. But it stands that your 1000 commit statement was wrong--misread or blatant overstatement for effect? It's anyone's guess. I'm guessing your brain doesn't know what it's doing.
No, you misunderstood - when I said "your 1000 commits" I meant Smooth's project, Monero - obviously I am not claiming he did 1000 commits, when I just cataloged all 9 that he did do since the project started. Reread and you'll see that it sounds like you're implying that he lied about the 1000 commits, and after your github research , found out that he was misleading us and only has 9 commits. Changing you have to monero has would do a great do to clear up your meaning. Sorry for asking this, but could somebody tell me
What are real "inventions/software inventions" in XMR and/or AEON? Or are they just a copy of some other coinbase.
Because real coders know how things work and not just code a new GUI or something like that, they make the code better, improve and develope new things.
This is veering off topic and I'm going to respect that even on this troll thread, but in short Monero has done an enormous amount of work to improve the code. I think fluffypony posted that something like 100K lines of code had been added or rewritten (I don't know the exact numbers). I know there have been >1000 commits in the main repo (and unlike the repos such as bitcoin forks, this does not include upstream commits -- that's 1000 actual Monero commits) plus the repos. Monero has also produced four MRL research reports, plus a few other mathy documents. AEON is a much smaller and newer project in practical terms, as we've only been working on it for a few months with me as the only coder, part-time (we also have another team member but he is not a coder), I'm the only coder. In that time, there is a modified proof of work algorithm and slower block time (with a hard fork implemented to change these with zero observed disruption of the network), better connection management in the p2p, portability cleanups for low end hardware (some of these are from Monero, others will be pulled back up to Monero), some optimizations of speed and storage. AEON also addressed, in a novel way, the anonymity problems revealed by MRL-0001. In fact AEON likely has the strongest deployed anonymity of any coin today (aside from the important fact of not having much use which makes the anonymity sets small), though eventually Monero will get there too. Better to follow up on the Monero/AEON threads please if you wan more detail. Of these 1000 commits, 9 were Smooth, if you're interested they break down like this: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits?author=iamsmoothNov 9, 2014 Change 6 lines of codes, temporary bug fixNov 11, 2014 Commented out 2 lines of codeMarch 5, 2015 4 lines to change a variable and add IF statementMarch 5, 2015 Added 4 lines of code, in the form of a commentMarch 6, 2015 Added one line of code (a checkpoint)March 10, 2015 Changing a default value and an IF statement, 6 lines of codeApr 5, 2015 4 lines of code and a commentApr 5, 2015 2 lines of code to handle a roundingApr 14, 2015 Remove a define, 1 line changedAlso Smooth, just saying you have 1000 commits is a bit vague - looking at your work, that doesn't necessarily mean new features were created, nearly all your work for Monero was changing a few comments, disabling or enabling something, changing a variable name - how is that "rewriting" anything or adding lots of new code? He said "> 1000 commits" and never said they were his--as he was answering a question about Monero and not himself. I guess you are used to "one Dev to rule them all" in dashland. I know which commits are Smooth's because I just posted them above for you - and it's mainly commenting / uncommenting or removing a variable and putting it back. I think he did like 2 small IF statements, which personally after reading them all, was the highlight of his entire Monero development career: if (base_reward < FINAL_SUBSIDY_PER_MINUTE) + { + base_reward = FINAL_SUBSIDY_PER_MINUTE; + } https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/754a785ee15915c4d8d81dbd55d7005e07c6407e. It's becoming kind of ridiculous to call Smooth a "Monero dev" at this stage, I don't think I can honestly say that anymore. I'm sure he'll be crushed. But it stands that your 1000 commit statement was wrong--misread or blatant overstatement for effect? It's anyone's guess. I'm guessing your brain doesn't know what it's doing. |
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Sorry for asking this, but could somebody tell me
What are real "inventions/software inventions" in XMR and/or AEON? Or are they just a copy of some other coinbase.
Because real coders know how things work and not just code a new GUI or something like that, they make the code better, improve and develope new things.
This is veering off topic and I'm going to respect that even on this troll thread, but in short Monero has done an enormous amount of work to improve the code. I think fluffypony posted that something like 100K lines of code had been added or rewritten (I don't know the exact numbers). I know there have been >1000 commits in the main repo (and unlike the repos such as bitcoin forks, this does not include upstream commits -- that's 1000 actual Monero commits) plus the repos. Monero has also produced four MRL research reports, plus a few other mathy documents. AEON is a much smaller and newer project in practical terms, as we've only been working on it for a few months with me as the only coder, part-time (we also have another team member but he is not a coder), I'm the only coder. In that time, there is a modified proof of work algorithm and slower block time (with a hard fork implemented to change these with zero observed disruption of the network), better connection management in the p2p, portability cleanups for low end hardware (some of these are from Monero, others will be pulled back up to Monero), some optimizations of speed and storage. AEON also addressed, in a novel way, the anonymity problems revealed by MRL-0001. In fact AEON likely has the strongest deployed anonymity of any coin today (aside from the important fact of not having much use which makes the anonymity sets small), though eventually Monero will get there too. Better to follow up on the Monero/AEON threads please if you wan more detail. Of these 1000 commits, 9 were Smooth, if you're interested they break down like this: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits?author=iamsmoothNov 9, 2014 Change 6 lines of codes, temporary bug fixNov 11, 2014 Commented out 2 lines of codeMarch 5, 2015 4 lines to change a variable and add IF statementMarch 5, 2015 Added 4 lines of code, in the form of a commentMarch 6, 2015 Added one line of code (a checkpoint)March 10, 2015 Changing a default value and an IF statement, 6 lines of codeApr 5, 2015 4 lines of code and a commentApr 5, 2015 2 lines of code to handle a roundingApr 14, 2015 Remove a define, 1 line changedAlso Smooth, just saying you have 1000 commits is a bit vague - looking at your work, that doesn't necessarily mean new features were created, nearly all your work for Monero was changing a few comments, disabling or enabling something, changing a variable name - how is that "rewriting" anything or adding lots of new code? He said "> 1000 commits" and never said they were his--as he was answering a question about Monero and not himself. I guess you are used to "one Dev to rule them all" in dashland. I know which commits are Smooth's because I just posted them above for you - and it's mainly commenting / uncommenting or removing a variable and putting it back. I think he did like 2 small IF statements, which personally after reading them all, was the highlight of his entire Monero development career: if (base_reward < FINAL_SUBSIDY_PER_MINUTE) + { + base_reward = FINAL_SUBSIDY_PER_MINUTE; + } https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/754a785ee15915c4d8d81dbd55d7005e07c6407e. It's becoming kind of ridiculous to call Smooth a "Monero dev" at this stage, I don't think I can honestly say that anymore. I'm sure he'll be crushed. But it stands that your 1000 commit statement was wrong--misread or blatant overstatement for effect? It's anyone's guess. I'm guessing your brain doesn't know what it's doing. |
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Sorry for asking this, but could somebody tell me
What are real "inventions/software inventions" in XMR and/or AEON? Or are they just a copy of some other coinbase.
Because real coders know how things work and not just code a new GUI or something like that, they make the code better, improve and develope new things.
This is veering off topic and I'm going to respect that even on this troll thread, but in short Monero has done an enormous amount of work to improve the code. I think fluffypony posted that something like 100K lines of code had been added or rewritten (I don't know the exact numbers). I know there have been >1000 commits in the main repo (and unlike the repos such as bitcoin forks, this does not include upstream commits -- that's 1000 actual Monero commits) plus the repos. Monero has also produced four MRL research reports, plus a few other mathy documents.AEON is a much smaller and newer project in practical terms, as we've only been working on it for a few months with me as the only coder, part-time (we also have another team member but he is not a coder), I'm the only coder. In that time, there is a modified proof of work algorithm and slower block time (with a hard fork implemented to change these with zero observed disruption of the network), better connection management in the p2p, portability cleanups for low end hardware (some of these are from Monero, others will be pulled back up to Monero), some optimizations of speed and storage. AEON also addressed, in a novel way, the anonymity problems revealed by MRL-0001. In fact AEON likely has the strongest deployed anonymity of any coin today (aside from the important fact of not having much use which makes the anonymity sets small), though eventually Monero will get there too. Better to follow up on the Monero/AEON threads please if you wan more detail. Of these 1000 commits, 9 were Smooth, if you're interested they break down like this: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits?author=iamsmoothNov 9, 2014 Change 6 lines of codes, temporary bug fixNov 11, 2014 Commented out 2 lines of codeMarch 5, 2015 4 lines to change a variable and add IF statementMarch 5, 2015 Added 4 lines of code, in the form of a commentMarch 6, 2015 Added one line of code (a checkpoint)March 10, 2015 Changing a default value and an IF statement, 6 lines of codeApr 5, 2015 4 lines of code and a commentApr 5, 2015 2 lines of code to handle a roundingApr 14, 2015 Remove a define, 1 line changedAlso Smooth, just saying you have 1000 commits is a bit vague - looking at your work, that doesn't necessarily mean new features were created, nearly all your work for Monero was changing a few comments, disabling or enabling something, changing a variable name - how is that "rewriting" anything or adding lots of new code? He said "> 1000 commits" and never said they were his--as he was answering a question about Monero and not himself. I guess you are used to "one Dev to rule them all" in dashland. |
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After reading the airdrop exchange, I realize that Evan's a politician: tell the people what they want to hear, then do what the money tells you.
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I don't know whether fluffypony has posted in the Dash thread or not but they've certainly posted about him there. Here's an example of the "professional demeanor" that early insider and instamine-protector bigrcanada claims characterizes the Dash community: Oh btw: "Fluffypony"... who wants to bet he watches My Little Pony and masturbates while wearing animal costumes? Just don't google the term "furry", people...
Didn't you once accuse the user Artforz of doing the same thing dressed as a Teletubbie when you went by Coinhunter? Kettle meet Pot LOL ~BCX~ I love how good your memory is but you forgot to attack Monero -- or did you? |
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OMG! A boolberry supporter also supports Aeon and Monero! What are the odds that fairly launched coins with similar qualities would have communities that respect each other?
GMaxwell and Peter Todd are respectful of Monero, therefore they cannot not be Smooth, right? Isn't this how your logic for dummies works Block--oh, sorry you did a name change like xcoin/dark/dash. I'll try to remember your current name.
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public service announcementDash (formerly xcoin and darkcoin) had a significant fastmine over the first 48 hours of its existence (~2 million coins). These facts should not be glossed over by those seeking a fairly launched coin, so until the dash media reflects these facts, this warning will be posted every 24 hours on the BCT dash thread. This warning will not be posted when the media reflects these facts. For those seeking more information Monero Developer Smooth has created a thread with the pertinent facts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0^^is this fair? Any edits, Blocka? That disclaimer is whitewashing of what actually happened. To be fair the clickthrough has more, but some of the most important red flags are missing. To my mind the misleading statements about the launch time by the (then and current) developer with 1+ million coins mined between the stated launch time and the actual (earlier) launch time is possibly the most significant abuse that happened. The way Evan responded to the launch time left him some (cleverly worded) wriggle room and saying he outright claimed a later launch time would lead to the possibility of a strawman defense. I want it to be non-debatable and concise. Blocka, any facts you'd argue with? |
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public service announcementDash (formerly xcoin and darkcoin) had a significant fastmine over the first 48 hours of its existence (~2 million coins). These facts should not be glossed over by those seeking a fairly launched coin, so until the dash media reflects these facts, this warning will be posted every 24 hours on the BCT dash thread. This warning will not be posted when the media reflects these facts. For those seeking more information Monero Developer Smooth has created a thread with the pertinent facts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0^^is this fair? Any edits, Blocka?
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What pisses people (smooth, adamwhite, articmine, myself) about the dash instamine is that it says fairly launched on all of the dash media.
If the truth of the dashmine was put up there for everyone to see, no one would bother--but since Evan won't change the media so that it is accurate and keeps changing the name in what looks like an attempt to distance the coin from its past, then you get Smooth and others calling you out on your bullshit.
If you don't want your coin to be criticized on BCT, you should put the facts up for everyone to see--why is this a bad thing? Smooth, nor anyone else, should have to point out dash's fastmine; it should be on the media. Other coins that were premined and fastmined list it, so why not dash?
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Lets petition to get this smooth dickwad banned..
Is it possible? That would certainly be a win for 90% of BCT users with scam-mines and vaporware that want to forward their pump-gains with non-existing debate and unethical / unprofessional coin teams. FTFY. |
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Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?
You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right? Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please. If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not? I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions. Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you. Have you done this github due diligence yourself? Can you say definitively that he did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions? I always o my own due diligence, its one of the reasons i left the XMR team after a few weeks. Let's try to stay on topic, though frankly I have no idea what you are going on about with XMR. I only know of seven team members that have ever existed, which did not include you. Did your due diligence on VNL determine definitively that john-connor did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?First we had a troll promoting gingeropolis to a Dev and now we have one promoting himself to a founding member. The first was funny, but this is sad. |
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Finished the white paper on anonymity. I'd say Monero and Bitcoin are both doomed. I am sitting on an innovation that is going to shock the community.
My eyes took a beating until 3am trying to finish it.
I thought I had achieved my goal some weeks ago when I wrote down the rough algorithm and math. But then when writing it down carefully with all the equations in the white paper, I found a flaw yesterday morning. I worked and worked on it all day and into the night. And I was thinking I had failed. I couldn't delink the ____ from the _____! Every way that I tried failed!
Then suddenly at 1am I figured out how to rescue and achieve my goal for the ON CHAIN anonymity. I could barely see by that time.
This is not an obvious innovation. It was a hard fought epiphany. It is as revolutionary and shocking as Cryptonote was. It is math and math guys will love this.
I am proud of myself. I didn't know if I could achieve this, but I did!
I am now officially an autodidact cryptographer. I've earned my stripes finally after 2.5 years of trying to come up-to-speed.
P.S. Slept well, eyes rejuvenated, heading out to gym. Will try to get back to a more sane work schedule now that I've achieved one of the main milestones.
Congratulations, now maybe you can have a sleep breakthrough. Seriously, take better care of yourself. |
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Instant sending needs to be done. I think I know how to do it. I don't think VanillaCoin's method is sound per my post in the other thread. Let's see what John Conner has to say about it.
As I wrote before, the DarkPP is apparently vaporware. Afaics, nothing has been revealed about anonymity. I've (as AnonyMint) have been working on anonymity for 2 years. I doubt very much he has the innovations on anonymity that I have.
Thats purely speculation until John has answered. Believing the anonymity is sound is pure speculation until John has answered. Glass half full? Half empty? Hard to tell when it's in a vault, yes? |
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Afaics his abstract paper does not deal with some of the intricacies of the economics that have to be solved in order to make the design actually work in the real world.
You see that often in unseasoned theorists. Someone asked me in a PM for my opinion of VanillaCoin. I just expended 15 minutes studying it for the first time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.0The DarkPP stuff is vaporware and no details are available. It claims some efficiency improvements over Bitcoin and Peercoin. Appears the developer is a seasoned P2P networking programmer. If I had to venture a guess, he probably was a former developer of a Bittorrent client. The main feature of significance is the zero confirmation time research which attempts to gain a faster consensus. Unfortunately he seems to entirely forget any game theory analysis. The Byzantine fault tolerance in proof-of-work consensus is due to game theory incentives given by the proof-of-work rewards. He expects these peers to behave a certain optimum way when they are not being paid to do so. Many faults will be found in his design because of this. I don't have time to go outline the faults. Satoshi was a lot more astute than many people might realize. If you are going to improve upon Satoshi's work, you need to be very sharp. |
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As a small (but heartfelt) token of my appreciation of the recent game development, please gift 40 million moneritos to Wizard Developer P.J. Thank you--it is wonderful to see how this game is taking shape From each, according to his ability. The gift has been noticed and recorded, effecting: - Immediate promotion of Crichton to L4 Novice - A small collection of Gold coins, including 2 CR-coins and 2 HM1600-coins, p.o. as a gift from the King Thank you for the gracious gift. The giving spirit of the community is a reflection of our King's generosity. |
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