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3161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Didn't know I can loss all without winning anything on: August 16, 2016, 11:34:52 AM
Well, you are lucky because you only lost 0.02 and deposit again and become addictive. Because many gamblers out there that lost more bitcoins and also loss without winning,

Yeah but in general its usually the gamblers that win a little that get extremely addicted to gambling. Most who lose at the beginning just quit and move on to something else.

yeah.. those who also have taste little to big profits are candidates of being addicted to gambling. However, there is nothing wrong with gambling, it is just that, you must know your limitations and you must know what you are doing - don't bet randomly, bet like a professional gambler.

Last note, if it is not fun anymore, stop at once.
3162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: August 16, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Never heard this as an issue with anyone really.

How can someone hate something if they have not even bothered to try and understand it?
They have not a right to discredit something if they have not spent the time to use it. Undecided
yeah this is strange. I don't undersand why people hate bitcoin without any reason. people should use first bitcoin and then decide. you can't say anything about something without knowing anything about that,
I personally don't know anyone who hate bitcoin. every friend of mine love bitcoin. and if someone don't then it mean he don't know about bitcoin.

Well, no one hate bitcoin, so thats why asking that anyone here who hate bitcoin, and if he hate bitcoin so what is the reason of hating? But we saw majority is those kind of people who love bitcoin, and also i don't see anyone who hate bitcoin. Even we get lose in bitcoin but still we love it, also a huge number of crypto currencies are here in this time but people like bitcoin more than others.

Yeah, i agree with you. I think there is no one that hate bitcoin, people love bitcoin and i also never heard people in my country don't like or hate bitcoin.

That is right. People who just heard of bitcoin are just curious and doesn't hate bitcoin I think so also. Once they get a hold of bitcoins and start transacting it, they will surely fall in love with it big time Smiley Having bitcoins and transacting it is the most convenient way ever for me.
3163  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 16, 2016, 11:30:29 AM
No i am not going to do that at all.Quiting full time job for bitcoin is really risky and will be a foolish decison according yo me.Bitcoin is a highly volatile currency first of all so not good for having full time income in bitcoin because we have to manage our daily life just according to it.I use bitcoin as my extra income not full income.

Others can find earning bitcoin better than their current job, so it is okay for them to quit their job. But if you are not still fully trusting bitcoin, no one can force you to quit your job. Just continue doing what you are doing, earning bitcoin part time.

For me, my rule of thumb would be: in case of any doubt as to whether or not quite the day job and do fulll-time bitcoin endeavors, then never quit yet. Unless you are 100% sure and confident that you got yourself and family covered with you quitting your day job for bitcoin then don't quit yet.

3164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 16, 2016, 11:28:11 AM
More loss than a win.
So no its nor good for my life.

Yeah i agreed there are very less chances of winning in gambling like we can say that winning chances is 20-30 % out of 100, and the rest 70% are loosing chances. People gamble their money and place bet of more and more money then they loose their money just because of their greediness.

But why do people cant stop it. Dont they know this? I guess it is still that mind problem where they think if they are lucky they can double their money or more.

Gambling addiction is very hard to remove to a person which is  already get hooked into it. I think its a mind problem or whatsoever because  they cant  control themselves on continuing on playing  gambling games which they already know that they would lose in the end.

If there is a personal resolution and strong will, then that certain individual can help himself/herself be free from gambling addictions. His/her family and loved ones also plays an important role in the recovery of the gambling addict. It can be done.
3165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 16, 2016, 11:25:20 AM
If you have tons of time you can make profit by doing arbitrary betting . You will not lose if you use that and you will win a percent of your bet depends on how big your bet is.

Arbitrary betting? I dont think that you will not lose it because in the end house will always win and there is no safe method to and easy way to get some profit from gambling. Although you have huge bankroll, it is not a guarantee that you will get your profit for sure because you never know when your luck will running out

Same here, want to know what arbitrary betting means! Smiley

If we have high bankroll, the wise thing to do is divide it into multiple sessions and only bet one session at a time. Creating multiple sessions is like having bunch of chances to get lucky because if you just bet based on whatever bankroll you have in just one setting, then you only have one or few chances to get lucky - if you are not lucky enough, you are giving yourself an early rekt.
3166  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 16, 2016, 11:21:29 AM
That is definitely right. We are just all speculating. By speculating with the price of bitcoins, we are basing on current needs and uses of the btc to public and how investors are reacting to it. For me, as long as I enjoy the benifits of bitcoins in all of my transactions, I will hold to it as my sign of BIG suport for it to soar higher in the coming days or months.
I get how some people are speculating on the price increase since some large companies are eyeing to invest and adopt bitcoins into their services. But right now, I just hate the fact that the price is slipping yet again.

No doubt price  is going down at a moment but I think we should buy some more coins at this stage as price will be definitely higher in future allowing  us to make good profits.

That is right, the price of bitcoins will eventually go high in the coming years. If we just invest and look at bitcoins in a long term period, then we will surely reap nice profits in few years or decades from now. We just hold on and buy more when the price goes down and hold again if the price stabilizes. We can also buy a regular once a month no matter what the price and will only cashout after minimum 5 years.
3167  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 16, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
After I earned bitcoins thru signature campaign I started to trade. Then I only buy bitcoins when the price dropped. Even if the price dropped hundred dollars, I still buy because I believe bitcoin will bounce back. It proved to be profitable so far.

Totally agree with buying bitcoins it the price drops. It is the best opportunity to buy at its lowest price because for sure (personal opinion) bitcoins will bounce back again or soar even higher.

I am really thinking now of learning how to trade with bitcoins and start my official first trade this weekend Smiley
3168  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 16, 2016, 11:14:34 AM
If bitcoin had to drop to $1....I would be the first person to abandon it as it would be worthless not only to mine but holding it aswel

I'd buy all your bitcoin Smiley

when you buy all bitcoin, and you can not convert it to a fiat, because if the price $1, bitcoin will be crushed, and no exchangers that accept bitcoin again, a.k.a they chose to close Smiley

If he has bought at $1 then why he will prefer to sell at the same price? He will surely hold them till price doesn't increase and sell only when bitcoins reaches to some descent level.

there is no time to hold when the price dropped to $1, I even hesitate to price could be increased. but you will suffer large losses.
so I'm not going to take great risks to it, most likely there will be another coin like bitcoin and you can take advantage of it.

Many people would  lost it trust to bitcoin and for sure many would  suffer big losses especially to those big  investors of bitcoin. When that thing happen maybe there a new coin that would exist and  replace bitcoin to its position and started for a new era.  Grin

Yeah people will surely loose their trust in bitcoins if it falls that low and may be majority of users will prefer to quit bitcoin and find alternate way to invest their money.

That is really unlikely that bitcoin will reach to that price granting the present scenario of how bitcoin is being used my many of its patrons like us. But if it really goes to that point, I would still buy many bitcoins because I love bitcoins irregardless of how market reacts and treat bitcoins. I'll go with btc journey through ups and downs.
3169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 16, 2016, 11:10:20 AM
If I 'm rich maybe i'm not going again to gambling offers nothing good in us if you continue gambling . Difficult because preoccupied with gambling , especially when you have a lot of money would you want to recover your lost. So it can only lose because of the desire to compensate you aware of it losing money. So if I'm rich
I just dedication to the business and the preoccupations than I lose my money in gambling.

Yeah that is true but sometimes you may try your luck so that you might earn something or to lose something, moreover you are already rich so why bother about losing some money? Let say that is for some fun only, if you win may be you can get something and if you lose it wont affect you that much though. Sometimes you really need to try something so that you can satisfy yourselves

Whether I am rich or not, I always have that certain amount of limitation as to gambling. Same thing with my money management - whether I earn a lot or earn less in a month, I still go with my limitations. That way, I see to it that I will not go overboard and everything in my life is balance.

So if I get very rich, I will gamble only up to my limitation - I know beyond that limitation I set is no longer fun! Smiley
3170  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 15, 2016, 02:52:06 PM
i think bitcoin more beneficial than gold because bitcoin increasing its price quickly than gold.

Aside from bitcoin being able to increase its price from time to time, its features and benefits are incomparable to gold. The fact that bitcoin can buy and sell online and can even be deposited to online casinos that accept bitcoin, then bitcoin is way better than gold.

I have some gold but I wear them and not on any investment vehicles, I love wearing it but not boastful about it. However, the one that always amazes me is the concept of bitcoin and I just awe every single time I reflect about holding bitcoins.
3171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 15, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
In my opinion you cant get-out easy in gambling.But if you can search another hobby or get be busy like working its help you forget the gambling.
I do believe that is the best chance we can get out in gambling, we should have an interest to replace in gambling and to do it we should know our interest or passion so we can get out easily in gambling, say for example if you love basketball you can do the physical games so you won't be facing your computer all the time to gamble.

That is true! Smiley If you can still play basketball and are having fun doing it, then you better bet with your game that you are playing at the moment - whether you win or lose, you always have the benefits like being healthy and if win, being luky! Smiley
3172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 15, 2016, 02:44:20 PM
deposit $10k and play martiangle. start from $1. lol

but that's not my strategy.
Martingale isn't really that much of a profitable scheme, well, only to a certain amount as it would fail sooner or later.
There is really no legit way of making profit from gambling that much easily. All requires a good considerable amount of skills on a particular game. Your one skill may not work on another gambling type for easy money making. That is the reason most of gamblers do fail.
Yeah this is the reason doing martingale is actually not wise, unless u have a really big balance and do it for short time.
However your only chance to make really good profit from gambling, you need to win it in very low amount of bets ( big bets ) and stop playing after that, because winning constantly is impossible.
Winning constantly is not impossible, only highly unlikely. And highly unlikely means something like a one-quadrillionth of a percent chance, depending on how long you keep going for. On a long enough timeline the survival rates of everything (and in this case a winning streak) approaches zero, and in gambling a chance approaching 0 means that it is basically completely impossible.

The martingale method is great for small bets with a massive balance, but it starts to falter beyond that.
That method does not actually works all the time, for me the best method is to do flat betting and I have been using it in sports betting. The only requirement is to have a decent bankroll that you can use all throughout the NBA season, this method will actually help you in controlling your self cause you need to have more wins in order to profit.

Sportbetting sure profitable and like you said you need to make many wins to get profit because the odds is low and usually you can win only with small odds. But I wondering why people tend to go for sportbetting rather than dice? I think you can still win in dice with small odds too

The best advantage of gambling indeed of sports betting. Since the results obtained directly from the game and the two teams could we predicted when we often follow. Sports betting is very good in my opinion if we want to benefit.
If you do not have the skills to cap games you can always tail with some good cappers around some popular sports betting forum. I use to follow that before and it gave be a better results  but suddenly it made me bored because I want to win with my own effort. In gambling money is not just important, you should also enjoy while you are making money.

That is right. We just need to stay calm and easy while gambling and when everything seems not fun at all, better leave the casino at once - if it entertaining anymore, better to stop betting a resume the following day with fresh mind and ideas.
3173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 15, 2016, 02:41:59 PM
If you are not a pro gambler yet you want gambling to be your primary source of income you have to take a long way. But as advice just work in anything else that is much safer than gambling because being a pro gambler is really not that easy mate.
Pro gamblers also must have suffered defeat and lost a lot of bitcoin but they have the capital so that it can continue to develop the stakes. For regular gamblers should be the right way in my opinion is a good gamble with controls that can prevent addiction.

Pro gamblers just have a lot of sessions to play - a Lot of Bankroll - a Lot of pre-planned bets - a Lot of Discipline - and LESS of greed.
If we play like a pro gambler, we should not get excited of every single win we have and we only celebrate the moment we cash out.
3174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 15, 2016, 02:39:28 PM
Reasons why gambling is addicting:

1.Become a millionaire in one day - wow seriously then why do people work hard everyday and earn from jobs?
2.Chasing losses - you can do that but the house always wins
3.Jackpots - just pure greedy people get punished for their gluttony
4.Hot girls - some people think a casino is also a dating place  Grin

There are several more. I don't want to list them - some people might feel ashamed on seeing them. Cheesy Cheesy




Well all of on the list are really making gambling very addicting if you are going to think about the one time big time jackpot hitting. You are really going to think of it daily even you are losing a lot of time. But with just one winning you are going to become millionaire from it one day. Unless you are going to make gambling as your busines.

Gambling, just like anything in life, too much exposure to it is bad. When we gamble every single day by just betting randomly and no pre-planned bets and sessions, then sooner that person will get hooked to it and get addicted.

Just play in moderation guys! Wink
3175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: August 15, 2016, 02:37:18 PM
Never heard this as an issue with anyone really.

How can someone hate something if they have not even bothered to try and understand it?
They have not a right to discredit something if they have not spent the time to use it. Undecided
yeah this is strange. I don't undersand why people hate bitcoin without any reason. people should use first bitcoin and then decide. you can't say anything about something without knowing anything about that,
I personally don't know anyone who hate bitcoin. every friend of mine love bitcoin. and if someone don't then it mean he don't know about bitcoin.

Me too, every single friends of mine and people that I met does indeed love bitcoins. I never encountered someone who hates bitcoin. Every person that just got to learn bitcoin, they are amazed every single time that they discovered anything about bitcoins that can make their life easier.
3176  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: August 15, 2016, 02:34:45 PM
I was not so lucky to born in Israel, but i am good at managing MY money Grin Also i am studing now on economy faculty, and it's makes me even better.
why do you say no luck. many people who say that the Jews are those who have a smart brain. there are many figures like Einstein? he is Jewish and he is smart
maybe you can use your skills and ingenuity to get bitcoin dude Cheesy

Maybe he/she was just born in Israel and he doesn't have any blood from Israelites. Maybe he/she is also not a Jew. But yes, I really want to have friends that are Jew and learn from their wisdom and their talents and skills. They are really good - Einstein, USB, Facebook, and the like.
3177  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 15, 2016, 02:31:29 PM
i will buy more and more bitcoins
i am sure after its dumped to 1$ it will pumped again to 600$ lol
if it wont pumped i will buy stable and promising altcoins

Majority of the users will follow the same if price drops to that level, as more and more people will start buying it will again take price to a higher level very soon.

Correct. When the bitcoin price is going down, then grab that opportunity to buy more bitcoins. Of course, don't use all of your hard earned money to buy bitcoins - just do some budgeting like use the 30% of your entire monthly salary for bitcoin investment. Although there is a risk but everything in life is a risk, right?
3178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 15, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
Investing is better as anyone have said in this topic but it has also a downside no one here has mentioned it. It is the risk of you gambling the money invested in the site. You must have a very big self control which many of the gamblers lack such thing and forget about your investment for a long time. Very few persons have achieved such things so far.

Well to make your money more valuable and profitable then choose to invest. But of course you need also some good time for relaxing and enjoying your money then go for gambling. You just need to make yourself comfortable on what ever you are going to choose and just make sure you are not going to feel sorry about it.

That is right. If you are a conservative type of person, you can study first everything about trading and when you get the hang of it and are profiting already, you can make a budget that you can afford to lose with to use for gambling fun once in a while.
3179  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 15, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
I will invest them in altcoin trading, not all of them but will keep some of them to be on safer side, as if my trading investment goes wrong I still have enough backup from which I can start once again.

i think that would be the best move my friend Cheesy trading is good but still, don't put all of your eggs in just one basket Cheesy you should really have something left on your safebox Wink

Yup that is the right thing to do, only invest that you can afford to loose, and it you make good profits from trading then its a win win situation for you, but you need to be very careful at initial stage.

Before going to start trading, we must at all times make our homework first. We don't want to go to battle not trained and no combat skills learned. In trading, the winners are most of the time are the ones that are informed and do everything to get those vital information about certain currency or bitcoin in the market.
3180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 15, 2016, 02:24:55 PM
If I rich I gamble sometimes but for fun only.And invest in that gambling that I gambling before or buy this site.Thats my opinion
same as me . I play gambling due to having fun. I will get pleasure and money when playing gambling. gambling is a hobby that paid. This is the place to play and become rich.
gambling is a hobby that bad, you do not get paid, but you yourself pay and spend your money.

you will never become rich from gambling. gambling too much lose.
so naive calling gambling as a paid hobby and a place to become rich or something like that.

nobody think gambling as a great place to become rich , only for those people who lucky enough to win a huge money afford to say this. and no matter you were rich or not you will still playing once you have started to gamble.

I know personally someone, actually a close friend of mine that make more money with gambling most of the time. He encountered loses and it is fine to him but he encounters more wins than losses. After all, he has always the big smile at the end of the day. He is the one who taught me how to build sessions and do pre-planned betting. Although I seldom use them now because I am busy with other things that give more income at the moment. I am still gambling every single day but not as like before that always more than 12 hours of play every single day.
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