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3181  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 19, 2014, 04:07:33 AM
1. Anonibet told me that I can take them off the ratings here at Bitcointalk. I decided it was unfair to allow DirectBet to dictate the rules here and left them up.

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Dear Peepsplace,

I stated on the first post I have posted here on your thread that as Anonibet we do not want to make any comment or post anything. Unless a question was directly asked to us, we do not interfere in your discussions. As we said before, we prefer the thread being used by player for players.

Please do NOT DEFEND OR MENTION ANONIBET in any of your post. If you wish you can delete us from your rating list. We do not want to be part of a discussion with any bookmaker. We have been present since 2011, and this is the best response we can give to anyone.

2. Anonibet has a huge player base outside of bitcointalk. It's my feeling that they are the only book not surviving on bitcointalk and continue to expand their player base.

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ANONIBET.COM IS HIRING

ANONIBET is looking for Area or Country Marketing Managers for the following regions:
Latin America (Spanish and Portuguese)
Russia (Russian)
Scandinavia (Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian)
Asian (all languages except Chinese)

Required skills:
•   Bitcoin enthusiasts with online marketing experiences in their respective countries.
•   Ability to promote Bitcoin and Anonibet
•   Ability to contact local Bitcoin communities and establish partnership
•   Online gambling experience is a plus

Please do NOT post any question to the forum. No answer will be given via the forum.
Please email your CV directly to michael.hoshford@anonibet.com with a short cover letter stating what you can achieve in the country or area you are applying for.

3. With the contest, I talked with two people from Anonibet. There is absolutely no way in the world that the winner wasn't legitimate.
3182  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 19, 2014, 03:49:45 AM

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations. DirectBet was very low in Ryan's ratings until DirectBet sent in a team of shills that all rated 5 out of 5 to boost DirectBet's ratings.




3183  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 19, 2014, 01:06:57 AM
DirectBet, Then you are a two man operation. You have never denied this in the past. Why now?
3184  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 10:31:17 PM
StakeBTC went under running with player's funds. Here was the review.

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StakeBTC opened to forum members on January 18, 2014, although they have been open to a private group for a longer time. StakeBTC has a maximum bet of 30 BTC and many seem to play with StakeBTC for this reason. Others advertise higher limits but rarely is it available. There are a lot of good things about StakeBTC that I don't even want to mention at this time because of one point. When a sports book offers a 100% bonus with a 2x rollover, that's a huge red flag. The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts. StakeBTC opens at "D".
3185  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 10:21:40 PM
Here was the warning on bitcoinlivebets. Ryan had them ranked as the 3rd highest book at the time.

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bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.
3186  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 10:16:51 PM
I think it's super weird to advertise your own sportbooks review type thread where it's just YOUR opinion. The majority factor being the age of the sportsbook?

At least RyanK has a thread where all the forum users can share their input and create an average for each book as opposed to pegging book A, B, C grades based on personal preference.

Looking through the thread I don't see anyone really caring for these ratings either except for you bumping the thread to keep it alive.

I'm glad that Ryan has a rating site. The more the better.

The grades here are from input from all. Personally I would have DirectBet lower and Jetwin higher. The age of a sportsbook was not even a consideration until posters brought that up. Changes were then made on their suggestions. There have been over 33,000 views since February. There have been lots of contributions.

This thread has helped a couple of players to be paid. Warnings were given on both Coinbet and Bitcoinlivebets before they went under. It's much more than just the opinion of one person.
3187  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
Here's the person that came in 2nd place in the Anonibet contest.

Anonitips
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Hi all, i see some of you still fighting over my 2.nd place, and i would like to clear things out as much as i can or know... please excuse my grammar mistakes as english is not my 1st language...

ok, i am betting on sports for the last 10 years, it has become my passion, i usualy bet at bwin or bet365, but not long ago, maybe 6 months or so i heard about bitcoin, and than i was looking for a poker site to play poker with bitcoins and somehow i crossed in to anonibet... i have previusly run a fb page caled G spot, and it didnt go as well as i wanted so after playing with anonibet i had a vision that maybe if i can get alot of likes i could recive payments for tips in BTC (for example 0.05 per tip.) so i started with anonitips on fb. I wrote www.anonibet.com on my page because i wanted people to know where i bet and where they can bet with their BTCs. in general to promote what i think is a good beting page, afterall the odds are better then the fiat competition... the page is up and running maybe for 2 or so months not since 2011... on the page is also one ticket from bwin(at that time i didnt have BTC so i bet on bwin), wich has a 5.5 odd won and i showd it.... I AM A REGULAR CUSTOMER, I JOIND THIS FORUM BECAUSE I BET ALOT and i thaught this competition was writen on my skin... so, if you have any questions for me, or what ever do ask... i will post my adresses on wich i deposit my btcs on anonibet soon probobly tomorow when i will have time to go trought my email.
3188  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
DirectBet- No one should play at your book if you can delay plays by 7 minutes. Bets should be confirmed or rejected immediately. You are the shot taker. Please stay out of this thread. All you do is clutter it up with lies and I'm tired of defending myself to false accusations.
3189  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 07:21:26 PM
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Dear Anonibet Friends,

First of all I would like to acknowledge joelad for coming forward as he is the Winner of this competition. We held this contest on this thread so that we could be as open to the community as we ever could. However, it seems that those that do not want our success have used the platform to attack us. It is because of that that we are calling to all our Winners to kindly display their wallet addresses that they use with Anonibet, so that the community can see the light of this issue. It may not be the most comfortable thing to do for our Valued Customers who won prizes and we sincerely apologize, but it will probably be the best way to prove to the community that all winners have been betting with us for a long period even before the World Cup, and also some have withdrawn their prizes after they were paid to them. Forum members have mentioned an audit, and with the anonymous nature of Bitcoin, this would serve best to clarify any queries the disgruntled members may have.

Regards,

Michael
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.1020
3190  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 06:00:27 PM
Getting back to Anonibet. This is joelad, the winner of the Anonibet contest.

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Just read this thread for first time in a few days. Can assure you I am nothing to do with anonibet.  I have been playing there for a long time. The reason why I placed a lot of bets late on was because I wanted to try and win, and was lagging behind AnoniTips.  They don't need me to stick up for them, but I dont see how anonibet could be more transparent with how the contest was run, every bet had to be posted on a public thread.  Payment of the prize has also been received, as stated earlier in the thread.
3191  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 05:42:57 PM
Diectbet has no credibility. He's saying that I tried to blackmail him for not refunding a bet. My PMs show that this is untrue. It also shows that your bets can be delayed with DirectBet. My bet wasn't confirmed for 7 minutes.

DirectBet- Show me where I demanded a refund or would post negative information if you didn't refund my bet.
3192  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 05:40:50 PM
PMs sent to DirectBet

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I sent two bets for .5. One was accepted, the other rejected. Can you show me something that says the bet was good with the odds. When I hit bet status, it said that the odds had changed. Thanks

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DirectBet- are you saying that I made a bet and 7 minutes later that you accepted the bet? I'm just trying to figure out what happened since I'm sure when I hit bet status that it said odds changed. Thanks

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Tell me if I'm misunderstanding what happened. I place a bet at 3.3. It wasn't accepted. 7 minutes later you accepted the bet at 5.5?

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17:45 placed a bet for .5. Bet not accepted.
17:48 placed a bet for 1 that was accepted.
17:52 you now accept the bet placed 7 minutes earlier.

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No one should make more than 1 bet with you in game if you are going to accept bets 7 minutes later. Some are accepted immediately and some much later. Exposure can be much greater than wanted if we are guessing.

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I can delete my posts but I think that I rightfully should receive .5 BTC.

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I placed the order at 17:45. Your software should be set to reject anything after a specified amount of time, 1 minute for an example. You waited 7 minutes and then accepted it.

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If someone holds the bet longer than 1 minute then just cancel it. Problem solved.

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Blockchain.info

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I don't understand the continued lies that you post.

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I have no problem if you justifiably bash me. When you lie about posters, your reputation is killed and they will post that at other forums if you ever try to expand.

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You lied again about being paid. I could put up an affiliate banner for any book. Of course the top books go up. You don't know our business relationship with the other books as it changes.

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Your lies never end.

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Looks like your lies are spreading like wildfire.
3193  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
DirectBet
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After losing the bet, Peeps blackmailed us and demanded that we refund his losing bet or else he will publish negative information on DirectBet publicly.

DirectBet is posting more lies. I will post all the emails that I sent him. I won't post what he sent me.
3194  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 05:11:27 PM
Hey Peeps I have been looking through every BTC books lines and comparing them to pretty much other books around and honestly at least 90% of the btc books at least 90% of the time for baseball have worse lines by pretty high margins. Something to consider, I don't understand what some of these books are thinking when they put out these lines. It's pretty much all of them too including anonibet, I can pretty much find a better line elsewhere almost all the time. Nitrogen offers better lines than most btc books but I can still almost always get better prices elsewhere. Do u know how much this adds upto over time.
I'm an avid baseball bettor and agree with you 100%. It looks like many of the bitcoin books are targeting soccer at this time without much interest in the baseball market.
I can find better lines elsewhere on every sport compared to btc books. Nothing special here.
Peeps I added more too my other post.
Thanks for adding your post on 5Dimes. We are keeping an eye on this since 5Dimes is competitive in the baseball market. I wish that 5Dimes would allow straight BTC withdrawals without converting to cash for withdrawals.

Have you taken out any recent withdrawals from 5Dimes? I haven't taken one in a long time but if I remember correctly, it took approximately one week. Posters are going to love Tony. Smiley

3195  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
One/two man shops never make it when they take an extended period of time without expansion.

Most of the bitcoin books start off as a one or two man shop but they expand with success. This is not happening with DirectBet.

Peeps, how do you know that Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin sportsbook and the only one you rated A, is not a one man shop ?

Did you meet them in person to verify that ? Or perhaps you are one of them ?

And what do you mean by "expanding" ? Anonibet, your one and only A rated Bitcoin sportsbook, recently had a sports betting contest with 22 BTC prize pool. They exists since 2011 yet only 6 players participated in their contest, some of which are accused of being Anonibet employees.

Is that what you call "expanding" ? Is that sort of expansion needed to get an A rating from you ?

Lets face it Peeps, this is not a true ratings guide, it's a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet, and the more you blindly defend them, the more it is clear what we have been claiming for months - you work for Anonibet !
I'm surprised anyone would even think of using your book after all the bs u have been complaining about for all this time. Not to mention your lines aren't as good as u think they are. You don't even offer to give out dimeline baseball? That alone is a ripoff.

Yes, as bad as it might be perceived to be - this kind of public back-and-forth is shamefully unprofessional and is making the rest of the operators look bad by association.
I'm glad that most of the books here have stayed away from these unprofessional attacks and have kept their posts to discussions of their own book.

It's been mentioned numerous times that the criticisms of books should be presented by the posters and not the books. The books are more than invited to post but the subject should pertain to their own individual book. It opens up question and answer periods that leads to informative discussions.
3196  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 04:59:01 PM
Hey Peeps I have been looking through every BTC books lines and comparing them to pretty much other books around and honestly at least 90% of the btc books at least 90% of the time for baseball have worse lines by pretty high margins. Something to consider, I don't understand what some of these books are thinking when they put out these lines. It's pretty much all of them too including anonibet, I can pretty much find a better line elsewhere almost all the time. Nitrogen offers better lines than most btc books but I can still almost always get better prices elsewhere. Do u know how much this adds upto over time.
I'm an avid baseball bettor and agree with you 100%. It looks like many of the bitcoin books are targeting soccer at this time without much interest in the baseball market.
3197  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 18, 2014, 02:44:35 PM
One/two man shops never make it when they take an extended period of time without expansion.

Most of the bitcoin books start off as a one or two man shop but they expand with success. This is not happening with DirectBet.

Peeps, how do you know that Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin sportsbook and the only one you rated A, is not a one man shop ?

Did you meet them in person to verify that ? Or perhaps you are one of them ?

And what do you mean by "expanding" ? Anonibet, your one and only A rated Bitcoin sportsbook, recently had a sports betting contest with 22 BTC prize pool. They exists since 2011 yet only 6 players participated in their contest, some of which are accused of being Anonibet employees.

Is that what you call "expanding" ? Is that sort of expansion needed to get an A rating from you ?

Lets face it Peeps, this is not a true ratings guide, it's a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet, and the more you blindly defend them, the more it is clear what we have been claiming for months - you work for Anonibet !
I don't blindly back anyone and didn't make any immediate comments when this dispute was first brought to the forum. Since that time, I've been in contact with 2 employees from Anoninbet. All the winners were Anonibet customers for at least 6 months. Contrary to what is being posted, the winner is not new to bitcointalk. He joined in April.
3198  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anonibet Official Thread - Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation on: July 17, 2014, 05:23:14 PM
No one has been stiffed by Anonibet and they have been open for 4 years. 1st place winner received 10 bitcoins and the 2nd place winner is being ACCUSED of being a shill. You guys should be sued for slander by Anonibet.

How do you know that? Length of time open != full trust

All 3 winners are suspicious imo. And you can go ahead and sue me for slander. You obviously have zero idea how that works.
Why would you say that? joeland won 10 BTC by winning the contest. He joined bitcointalk on 4/26 and then made his first post on 6/8. The post was in regards to Webetcoins. On 6/27 joelad made posts concerning the contest with Anonibet.
3199  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 17, 2014, 04:35:55 PM

SBOBitcoin.com's Live Chat is back online. All seems fine. It was probably the typhoon that caused them to be offline.

I put in a payout request, took them about 10 hours to get back with me saying it would be processed within four hours. Gave me some vague reason for the delay. I got a little concerned that they hadn't gotten back with me sooner but a typhoon would obviously slow things down.

In any case, I'm not going to complain about getting a big payout in less than 15 hours, still much cheaper and much faster than Bookmaker or 5Dimes.
thanks for the feedback.
3200  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. on: July 17, 2014, 01:32:06 PM
One/two man shops never make it when they take an extended period of time without expansion. Bit365, Stakebet and Bitbook are examples.

Most of the bitcoin books start off as a one or two man shop but they expand with success. This is not happening with DirectBet.
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