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Wow this thread is still being bumped?
LTCGear was pure ponzi. Period.
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Is it okay for me to posture using another account to "escrow" funds for a transaction I am doing with someone else.
Basically putting up an illusion of an actual escrow.
LOL pretty obvious answer is NO it isn't okay.
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I think I seen that message before. Not sure if it was for this very reason.
Otherwise good to know.
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GO WORK ON YOUR PROJECT AND PLEASE RELEASE IT WHEN YOU ARE DONE. Stop the hype bullshit by posting about it before it is even ready. Makes no sense and is premature in nature (still currently vaporware as smooth called it).
I got the impression the main motivation for starting the thread was to get feedback on the name of the coin, as well as list the features designed so far to start attracting interest of potential developers reading these forums who might want to join the project. Along with establishing a thread whose OP would be updated to contain relevant information arisen in the discussions while keeping the thread readable for new users arriving perhaps months later by deleting back-and-forth after the relevant bits have been moved to the OP. This should be okay, right? I think his mistake though was to start answering to detailed implementation questions while being unable to reveal the specifics after stating that already in the OP. And your mistake was to insist on asking those detailed implementation questions, and getting angry when not getting them answered. At no point was I angry not getting clear answers to my questions. At this point it seems pointless to continue trying to get answers from someone who has none to share. |
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Fat Tay Choon went to the Mining Academy in Brazil, east of Satoshi's yurt, where Gavin was kidnapped by the CIA's goons and forced to pretend fucking an anonymous decentralized biscuit—better than all the fish in the Pacific Ocean—but also to defray leeches intelligently with ECDSA fighting qubits for 16.8 dree12, or Phinnaeus must fling toilets towards psy‐ops, without potato smoothies mixed with fried chicken wings from BitMunchies.com, urbanchickennj.com, and Popeye's Bitcoin wallet, which deleted Satoshi's premine ability to cheer very victoriously, none like Butterfly Labs better enabled, but also Pirate crashing AIR applications without the express use of interest-free scams, conspiring with fraudulent sockpuppets and PPTs and..., you troll-herding piece of Shiitake mushroom, go lick Goat's horns until Theymos admits to having a quite erotic fetish involving honey badgers wearing thongs composed of soggy burlap waffles dangling from cosmic linoleum-based iphones running quantum chips explodes spewing deadly acid! b!z screamed out "Light is bright like...like... stars." When Markjamrobin opens the isolated window, he sees three pigs together in bed. Kouye and myself laugh when chinese food falls the impact kills Obama Bin ladin whoever thinks he may be terrorist, is correct but hates the bitcoin logo. Earth has snakes. Currently, the other species have decimated to tiny groups called "marko solo" whatever time it all comes and ends? However, Bitcoin's acidity level dipped causing catastrophic double-spends!
Meanwhile, AntiOps was confused by the awkward change to his penis melting uncontrollably. Vanilla Ice perfume spritzed onto cheese and greasy slime covered with babies boiled in a smelly old heatsink. But it tasted like shit therefore it poisoned his blood although he did survive. Reproductive organisms attacked the internal testicle which caused terrible congestion somehow. Evolution then terminated the smelly old business thank the inability of AntiOps to lock Satoshi's thread. In a transactional forum there was a debate about hacking unprotected accounts, however the debate shortly ended.
Phinnaeus Gage, king pluto, duke of the people. Returned one of his loans that he fraudulently claimed without declaring intentionally. Although this was bullshit. Earth was hit by a meteor which cause catastrophic events which cause people to cause mass destruction by proxy voting it was documented recently on the news that oranges are disguised anti-gravity pockets which have giant bears attacked Zeus because bitcoin accidentally crashed to Mars which created spaceships and aliens who pretended being humans wearing hats on their toes.
Altcoin suck on apples and oranges too. Megacoin is the most shit sucker of apples and melons ever. Most people love to troll others. Evolution is a slow process which created forks. It is beneficial to wash your feet because it distributes bacteria and oil, notwithstanding the beneficial attributes which are how chocolate arouses some of the miners brains. Today was an abysmal event which caused many abnormal but not smart bitcoiners because many of them are cute animals who were insane because of excessive oreo consumption. One watermelon is not love how people try me explotation Maybe Heisenberg Breaking bad control guy director or masturbation my time vampire drinks urine not lemon tek and water supernatural.
LEALANA is fat looking because pizza is sour with pickles which are sexy and never rot. So many people eat pizza it's unbelievable. The news said that pizza is bought mainly with anchovies which results in big wet weather which had massive gusts of wind with pouring milk down on everyones throat because it feels great! Although honey is very sweet taste it makes when it is served hot it melts softly but slowly.
The universe is populated with many planets which were destroyed by pirateat40. Cyborgs then warped to the zoo and ate mushroom with a aerospace technician. Bitcoin has used a lot resources from peoples although people smell like melons.
Ipods suck. Androids rule. Altcoins also suck peanuts. Bitcoin is the greatest idea that has ever been created by man although litecoin sucks? Once upon a time Gandalf went to wal-mart to dry her hair. Minecraft is the best game in universe because chickens cluck. 231134421 is one crazy big ass monkey. What is with people posting replies still. Terraria is a crazy game which requires extreme concentration. This can result in health cubes; Parentheses are a pain in the brain. This noodle is disgusting. Although spaceships cry waterfalls they are magical little elves. Golden towns is very annoying and smell like bacon. Celebrities are awesome and smart. But, evolution taught us that butterflys are ugly.
Vitamin D is important to scam Taras and raise taxes which would cause the world to go crazy but not insane. Obama is the president now. Alot of gamers will illustrate sony that nintendo is leading the infiltration of Iran. Microsoft Windows was salivating pedophiles of the coastal farts. Yet the banana shrank. What was doge poo doing under the bridge with bridge cleaner? He was just he's aren't because something something different like seems incorrect, because we fucked. Yet prunes prunes are very bad lad's yet unknown to fuckers SWEARING. Banana monkey is not virgin-horse. Corn.
This disappoints satan more than satoshi because he ate hydrochloric pools and he fucked whores who are sick shemales shemales shemales BANGCOCK! God smited non-believers with dicks on a stick. They shat together sitting upside-down flicking birdies. Baezl'bub slept with Hitler inside a bomb ticking furiously and hodling. That was awesome. Bitmit made belt so that walruses can shit on his dick and eat mushroom full of wonderful shit, he HODL'd BTCs and Dogecoin with a succubus sperm from first blowjob stories.
Nefarious words spoken shit at bitcointalk and destroyed uranus with a big-ass Spaceship mouth that eats goats flying shuttle that revolves expressly and quietly to hell. Gamma flux destroyed Litecoin with a barracks producing Atreides shit and Kadafi. Same Binladen puppet goxed clients sucking lollipops shaped like mixed frapuccino lids. Goku start this fight prematurely in Odessa Klondike's yard. Winter is not shitty. Gooches. Seven. Humanity sold pubes to Zeus. Nevertheless, Cinnamon was crying. Millennium breakdown caused diversification methheads cardinally. Hyper-inflation, epidemics with marshmallows made by government chodes and yeah. The End. No. Yes. Lies. Stop. Can. Do aliens have any bitcoins? No. Instead, PPC acts quickly like FTL shit, riffraff toys.
Miracles happen like cannibals spitting sinew and elephants which innocent love and shit has never fucked up! Dank has killed bysexuals... wait, when did Karpeles said/say McDonald's sucks? Colonel Tom sex-machine The 3.14159265358th must fook anything that goes into a section. Beaware of spellcheckers. Fantômas portuguese are sobriquet of Fernão who called them Coads-nigs! They say we are azoth, biblical tittynopes who can't mine the janiceps'. He biblically took Rosenzweig and ended this game. And then wanked, wanked clitoris next door. This was done. Moreover, crack was rapidly dephosphorylated due to complications anhidrotically, metaphorically whores go mooooooooo and ahhhhhhhhhhhhh while jon snow watch has ended this thread for good.
Not... Actually, maybe futuristically, Vod (MIA) sailing CASASCIUS up Padma Lakshmi's waxed butt and... Nevermind, but acknowledging that Gavin held security. This marks, categorically, that will create scientific controvertist of global heliolatry problems indistinguishably noticeable filipino heritage, unbeknownst to Slenderman XT phenomena. GLEB sucked smoothie's brains using juicy zombies, dicks, Popsicles, and alien vaginas to rotten flesh of Vod. Meanwhile, giant marsupials are having suicidal sex appeal for four tentacles, watching child whoopee. Therefore, vegetables are unpretentiously super[...]docious. Fruits are rotten potatoes, avouchment vouched x10 malware because aliens kidnapped JarJar, mercilessly LeFodorliar and Gleb Gamow lived days along seashore, Theymos abused his Authoritah by forcing a purple pill To Fly! Serendipitously, awsome! Then I started UFOing on their ass, savagely. But, it is impeccable to realize I farted psychedelic asparagus smoothies. However, Mexico
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Ew ripple...
(holds up cross)
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BTC keeps going sideways and everyone is ripping each other apart - the next rallye is overdue, otherwise there won't be much community left  edit: sorry for off topic @smoothie, won't happen again it is cool. You have any input on the discussion? |
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One possibility that may be holding the price back is AnonyMint's vaporcoin
I'd give that possibility odds of billions to one. I highly doubt that is why the price is where it is at. His project is vaporware. Remains to be seen. XMR is real and exists today. Hence there is support for it. |
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Recently I announced my rationale to develop my coin non-anonymously, with any anonymity features to be added by other developers later. The proposed name of the coin is Ion with a capitalized first letter when it can be written with a serif font, e.g. Ion— otherwise ion instead of Ion. For me ion connotes a thing that can conduct a current and be zapped to a destination. Formerly AnonyMint et al, I expended 2+ years thinking about anonymity designs and recently formalized an unreleased white paper which I think is the holy grail of on chain anonymity. This will be offloaded to other developers, so I can work non-anonymously on this coin. The current focus of my development on this coin is to complete a novel consensus network design which has proposed the following fixes to flaws in Satoshi’s design while retaining proof-of-work as unbounded entropy[1]: - Censorship resistance even if mining is entirely centralized.
- Attack-free instant zero confirmation instantaneous transactions.
- Impervious to selfish mining and 51% attacks.
- Transaction rates virtually unbounded by block chain bandwidth and size.
- Resilient against network fragmentation.
- Decentralization of pools and ASICs by making them uneconomic.
- Non-heuristic Sybil and DoS resistance.
None of the above is a joke nor exaggeration. I am entirely serious. My programming background and expertise is documented in the archives of my prior usernames. Currently unreleased white papers will not be published until this coin is nearer to release to insure these designs are released first in our coin. Thus for the time being I may not be providing more details on how the above features are accomplished. Soon I will be uploading some code to the internet and will update this opening post and bump the thread. I will also be announcing some bounties in coins for those who want to do development on this coin. I will also later add some information on the targeted launch date and other details on the coin supply and distribution. So that new readers can digest this thread from start to finish, I will be removing your posts sometimes to incorporate what was discussed into this opening thread post. I will also remove posts which are redundant or otherwise don't add anything useful information. Constructive critical discussion is welcomed. The future goal is to have a Wiki and incorporate all discussion there. All posts would remain viewable in the Wiki history as they are removed from current versions of the Wiki pages and the outcome of discussion incorporated into the current versions of the Wiki pages. The point again is so new readers can access the information they need. You are welcome to make an unmoderated thread, but do not expect me to comment there. Bring any issue in this thread if you want me to address it. [1] My position until I am convinced otherwise is that all non-proof-of-work consensus systems have a bounded entropy (e.g. the total stake and/or any initial seeds used for randomization) and thus their attributes (e.g. decentralization, censorship resistance, DoS resistance, Sybil attack resistance, impartiality) is subject to a game theory which is potentially undiscovered. Whereas, the entropy of proof-of-work is unbounded because it is externally added and the game theory is well defined. |
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This is what you get when you try to ask questions and sincerely want to understand what they are doing. Of course actions will speak louder. Have a look see:
You are the one who is insulted with butt hurt ego when I pointed out you don't know how to read the thread before you comment
You are like a spoiled brat who can't get what he wants
FUCK OFF ASSHOLE.
YOU WILL NEVER CODE A COIN.
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Crafty slimy weasel.
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This useless blob of flesh is going on ignore now.
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I'm bothered by the fact that he opens a thread for his project where he refuses to discuss certain questions in detail (even goes as far as threatening with deletion) because "wait for the whitepaper".
I don't see the point of the thread.
Mark this down for the history books. I agree with traumschiff. Seems like the only purpose is to hype vaporware. I don't think it is really malicious but more driven by enthusiasm and being a bit impatient to wait until it's actually done (at least in part) before discussing it. The effect is similar though. It stems from self control. Anyone who has a good sense of self-control would shut his mouth and work and release the product when it is done. Instead of posting for months (and years?) about how he has a great system that will blow bitcoin out of the water on every item of importance, just work on it and get it done. Instead of waiting, he jumps the gun. I would be willing to apologize publicly if he indeeds fulfills ALL of his claims in his project. But until then it is all HYPE. You ad hominem me every where then tell me I don't have self-control when I restrain myself and try to explain to you calmly. Then you push and push and push your  in my face in numerous threads numerous times attacking me as not being humble when I am in fact answering far more about the consensus algorithm than was my request to not discuss it, trying to be nice and appease you all. But you just keep kicking me in the balls because you want to be able to say that I don't have self control. Nice classic asshole technique. Thanks.
I am not going to be following the discussion in this thread at this time.
You post this earlier today ^ Hence my " " lol I try to stop discussing and you attacked me for doing so. Thanks for proving my point. You are like a spoiled brat who can't get what he wants, who makes logical errors, is too lazy to read the thread, then blames it all on the other person. You ought to really go re-read everything chronologically so you can see how fair I was. ad hominem? You mean me posting my observations of your huge ego? You also appear to play the victim card. Sorry I don't feel sorry for you. It's called an opinion. Please be mature and act your age as I get a gist that you are much much older than I am. Thanks  Likewise I am expressing my opinion. You need also a lesson in being humble. If you are humble with me, I am humble with you. Mutual respect. You didn't make a single valid point in all the noise you wrote today. You try to salvage your ego by declaring I am not humble. Whining like a bitch. Are you a female? Hey your bullshit is becoming far too obvious. Now you try to sucker me into some dislogic that I was trying to be a victim. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE. YOU WILL NEVER CODE A COIN. Wow, dude, seriously just breathe and relax. That kinda talk ain't gonna win you any friends nor do you any favors! LOL... |
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I see you like to play psychological games.
Crafty slimy weasel.
It won't help you win. Being good at being a weasel doesn't go far in terms of real accomplishments in life. It is destructive behavior and thus you will end up where you deserve.
Not trying to win anything. But anyway... Get back to work! You have a shit-ton of work to do with your "project" No time to slack on arguing with smoothie. Sticks and stones buddy... Sticks and stones |
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I'm bothered by the fact that he opens a thread for his project where he refuses to discuss certain questions in detail (even goes as far as threatening with deletion) because "wait for the whitepaper".
I don't see the point of the thread.
Mark this down for the history books. I agree with traumschiff. Seems like the only purpose is to hype vaporware. I don't think it is really malicious but more driven by enthusiasm and being a bit impatient to wait until it's actually done (at least in part) before discussing it. The effect is similar though. It stems from self control. Anyone who has a good sense of self-control would shut his mouth and work and release the product when it is done. Instead of posting for months (and years?) about how he has a great system that will blow bitcoin out of the water on every item of importance, just work on it and get it done. Instead of waiting, he jumps the gun. I would be willing to apologize publicly if he indeeds fulfills ALL of his claims in his project. But until then it is all HYPE. You ad hominem me every where then tell me I don't have self-control when I restrain myself and try to explain to you calmly. Then you push and push and push your in my face in numerous threads numerous times attacking me as not being humble when I am in fact answering far more about the consensus algorithm than was my request to not discuss it, trying to be nice and appease you all. But you just keep kicking me in the balls because you want to be able to say that I don't have self control. Nice classic asshole technique. Thanks.
I am not going to be following the discussion in this thread at this time.
You post this earlier today ^ Hence my " " lol I try to stop discussing and you attacked me for doing so. Thanks for proving my point. You are like a spoiled brat who can't get what he wants, who makes logical errors, is too lazy to read the thread, then blames it all on the other person. You ought to really go re-read everything chronologically so you can see how fair I was. ad hominem? You mean me posting my observations of your huge ego? You also appear to play the victim card. Sorry I don't feel sorry for you. It's called an opinion. Please be mature and act your age as I get a gist that you are much much older than I am. Thanks Likewise I am expressing my opinion. You need also a lesson in being humble. If you are humble with me, I am humble with you. Mutual respect. You didn't make a single valid point in all the noise you wrote today. You try to salvage your ego by declaring I am not humble. Whining like a bitch. Are you a female? Ad hominem. ^ Sorry I just can't take you seriously. What you say doesn't matter. What you do will always speak louder. You can leave my thread and go work on your project instead of going back and forth with me. You have proven nothing in my eyes other than you talk more than you execute.  |
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I'm bothered by the fact that he opens a thread for his project where he refuses to discuss certain questions in detail (even goes as far as threatening with deletion) because "wait for the whitepaper".
I don't see the point of the thread.
Mark this down for the history books. I agree with traumschiff. Seems like the only purpose is to hype vaporware. I don't think it is really malicious but more driven by enthusiasm and being a bit impatient to wait until it's actually done (at least in part) before discussing it. The effect is similar though. It stems from self control. Anyone who has a good sense of self-control would shut his mouth and work and release the product when it is done. Instead of posting for months (and years?) about how he has a great system that will blow bitcoin out of the water on every item of importance, just work on it and get it done. Instead of waiting, he jumps the gun. I would be willing to apologize publicly if he indeeds fulfills ALL of his claims in his project. But until then it is all HYPE. You ad hominem me every where then tell me I don't have self-control when I restrain myself and try to explain to you calmly. Then you push and push and push your in my face in numerous threads numerous times attacking me as not being humble when I am in fact answering far more about the consensus algorithm than was my request to not discuss it, trying to be nice and appease you all. But you just keep kicking me in the balls because you want to be able to say that I don't have self control. Nice classic asshole technique. Thanks.
I am not going to be following the discussion in this thread at this time.
You post this earlier today ^ Hence my " " lol I try to stop discussing and you attacked me for doing so. Thanks for proving my point. You are like a spoiled brat who can't get what he wants, who makes logical errors, is too lazy to read the thread, then blames it all on the other person. You ought to really go re-read everything chronologically so you can see how fair I was. ad hominem? You mean me posting my observations of your huge ego? You also appear to play the victim card very well. Sorry I don't feel sorry for you. It's called an opinion. Please be mature and act your age as I get a gist that you are much much older than I am. Thanks |
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I am not going to be following the discussion in this thread at this time.
You post this earlier today ^ Hence my " " lol |
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It's called being mature and humble.
Take a lesson from Satoshi.
It starts with you giving me mutual respect. You started this. Do you want me to show your numerous disrespectful posts and trolling the definition of "delegate" (which clearly has an alternative definition which fits my use of it). Back in Satoshi's days here, there were respectful very skilled developers here. Now the forum is populated by half-assed who think they know more than they do and Dunning-Kruger over all the place slandering those of us who are at Satoshi's caliber and beyond. I couldn't have said that before I wrote the two recent white papers. But now I've seen with my own eyes (actually make that 1 eye, I'm blind in the other) that I bested all of them, Maxwell, the Zerocash devs, the Cryptonote devs, and even Satoshi. So I know the respect I deserve. Or at least we can start with mutual respect. I put up with your ad hominem FUDing for several posts, without blowing up but you just keep grinding and grinding away. What are you the Altcoin Discussion police? Who assigned your badge and rank? Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you think of my personality (when what you are seeing is a delayed and patience lost mirror of your massive disrespect)? I just have one suggestion for you. Prepare for massive humiliation when I launch. You are going to eat that " " you were putting in every post about me in every fucking thread. Spreading your ad hominem shit all over the place. Hey I don't have an ego problem. You are the one who is insulted and butt hurt ego when I pointed out you don't know how to read the thread before you comment, thus you make statements which were already refuted. Then you expect me to cower to you so you don't feel butt hurt. Look in the mirror buddy. There is the ego problem. Don't put words in my mouth or paint me out to be the bad guy here. I simply asked questions and pretty much got "wait until the white paper" or "don't discuss delegation anymore". And this is as you cherry picked what you wanted to release from your white paper (after the fact that I asked the questions then had the gall to make me appear to be incompetent on your concepts when you offered 0 substance other than words and talk). For someone who has a "shit-ton" of work to do on your "project" you sure have a lot of time to respond to me. GO WORK ON YOUR PROJECT AND PLEASE RELEASE IT WHEN YOU ARE DONE. Stop the hype bullshit by posting about it before it is even ready. Makes no sense and is premature in nature (still currently vaporware as smooth called it). I won't be humiliated as I already offered to publicly apologize if you do create a system that does everything you claimed below: Recently I announced my rationale to develop my coin non-anonymously, with any anonymity features to be added by other developers later.
The proposed name of the coin is Ion with a capitalized first letter when it can be written with a serif font, e.g. Ion— otherwise ion instead of Ion. For me ion connotes a thing that can conduct a current and be zapped to a destination.
Formerly AnonyMint et al, I expended 2+ years thinking about anonymity designs and recently formalized an unreleased white paper which I think is the holy grail of on chain anonymity. This will be offloaded to other developers, so I can work non-anonymously on this coin.
The current focus of my development on this coin is to complete a novel consensus network design which has proposed the following fixes to flaws in Satoshi’s design while retaining proof-of-work as unbounded entropy[1]:
Censorship resistance even if mining is entirely centralized.
Attack-free instant zero confirmation instantaneous transactions.
Impervious to selfish mining and 51% attacks.
Transaction rates virtually unbounded by block chain bandwidth and size.
Resilient against network fragmentation.
Decentralization of pools and ASICs by making them uneconomic.
Non-heuristic Sybil and DoS resistance.
None of the above is a joke nor exaggeration. I am entirely serious. My programming background and expertise is documented in the archives of my prior usernames.
Currently unreleased white papers will not be published until this coin is nearer to release to insure these designs are released first in our coin. Thus for the time being I may not be providing more details on how the above features are accomplished.
Soon I will be uploading some code to the internet and will update this opening post and bump the thread. I will also be announcing some bounties in coins for those who want to do development on this coin. I will also later add some information on the targeted launch date and other details on the coin supply and distribution.
So that new readers can digest this thread from start to finish, I will be removing your posts sometimes to incorporate what was discussed into this opening thread post. I will also remove posts which are redundant or otherwise don't add anything useful information. Constructive critical discussion is welcomed.
The future goal is to have a Wiki and incorporate all discussion there. All posts would remain viewable in the Wiki history as they are removed from current versions of the Wiki pages and the outcome of discussion incorporated into the current versions of the Wiki pages. The point again is so new readers can access the information they need.
You are welcome to make an unmoderated thread, but do not expect me to comment there. Bring any issue in this thread if you want me to address it.
[1] My position until I am convinced otherwise is that all non-proof-of-work consensus systems have a bounded entropy (e.g. the total stake and/or any initial seeds used for randomization) and thus their attributes (e.g. decentralization, censorship resistance, DoS resistance, Sybil attack resistance, impartiality) is subject to a game theory which is potentially undiscovered. Whereas, the entropy of proof-of-work is unbounded because it is externally added and the game theory is well defined. |
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Here you go guys! This guy ^ is going to create the most revolutionary cryptocurrency (whatever you want to call it). Look at that attitude. Such a humble guy. You want Kobe Byrant (of 5 years ago) or Jeremy Lin? You want me to tolerate a lot of BS and not perform so all of us are happy losers, or tell you directly what is and what is required to win. It's called being mature and humble. Take a lesson from Satoshi. |
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One important question to ask: DID SATOSHI EVER ACT AS EGOTISTICAL AS ANONYMINT? Satoshi could teach Anonymint a thing or two about having the right attitude and being humble. Lol! He's really hit a nerve with you hasn't he? Not really I just think it is a glaring fact. |
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