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3181  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 25, 2013, 05:31:10 AM
Garden and now Myminer backout because of some legal issue in their country, http://myminer.com/pages/6  
Where is labcoin located?

Collecting funds from the public is illegal in China? Does this mean no IPO occurs on their stock markets? In fact how can they even have a stock market if the public can't participate?



They are not in mainland China.



I'm not asking about Labcoin but real Chinese stock markets in general.
3182  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 25, 2013, 05:19:19 AM
Garden and now Myminer backout because of some legal issue in their country, http://myminer.com/pages/6  
Where is labcoin located?

Collecting funds from the public is illegal in China? Does this mean no IPO occurs on their stock markets? In fact how can they even have a stock market if the public can't participate?

3183  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 25, 2013, 04:46:36 AM
nice 73k buy wall at .0032

going up?

Haha they might regret that if the news is bad!
3184  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and get fee rebates on your deposits! on: August 25, 2013, 03:16:28 AM
The fee isn't associated with Inputs.io its a withdrawl fee for CoinLenders... Inputs.io doesn't have anything to do with it...Never mind you're making FREE Interest and I'm sure he is just trying to offset costs so he can keep the interest rate up a bit and it also helps stop people from withdrawing as often so he doesn't have to worry about a whole bunch of small transactions being filled everyday because it would eat into peoples money more so it makes more sense to wait and withdraw bigger amounts when you want to spend the bitcoin...

I wouldn't consider it free interest, this is misleading to newcomers.

There is a risk that CoinLenders could have a bad run and lose peoples investments, then CoinLenders would either have to keep quite and prevent a bank run or deduct losses from all the accounts.

The only way I am wrong is if all the money CoinLenders is paying interest on is 100% fully insured. I am under the impression this is not the case. I am also not spreading FUD, I know TF will cover losses if it ever comes down to that but there are limits, because if TF had enough Bitcoin to cover 100% of lost funds in the worst disaster, he wouldn't need your money to lend out in the first place.

So please stop saying its free! There is risk and thats the cost.
3185  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 24, 2013, 06:26:05 AM
this is a game for manipulators only

Thats why you're playing.  Roll Eyes
3186  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 24, 2013, 06:16:49 AM
future photo of labcoin shareholders

Confirmed troll that wants cheap shares and sold them all at 0.0027
3187  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 24, 2013, 05:39:28 AM
I hope the Labcoin is not a big bubble , I still have around 7K Shares

Why don't you just sell them all now? If you're that type of investor, swayed by sock puppet accounts with 2 posts to their name.

They might go up or down, but once Labcoin starts hashing they won't go below 0.004.

Quote me on that.
3188  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 24, 2013, 05:33:39 AM
labcoin last login 1 week ago, and last respond 3 weeks ago
he don't have time to listen to owner of exchange even
he don't have ASIC and will not have ASIC on 28th august
hope this answer your questions
this is game only for manipulators
in short: SELL
SELL SELL

Wow 2 posts and shouting sell sell!!

Someone wants cheaper shares. Did you just sell all of yours?
3189  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 24, 2013, 04:56:23 AM
My asks in the mid .0031~s  just got filled. Pleased with my return but now I kind of hope that the bubble collapses so I can rebuy in.

Its a bubble after 0.005, and then it should stabilize this month around 0.004. If Labcoin starts hashing and pays any dividend you will not see 0.003 for years afterwards. I just wish I had more.
3190  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: August 24, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
I am confused and not following, half this thread is garbage.

Why are people buying Labcoin high right now? What news?
3191  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC on: August 22, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Ponzi scheme collapsing....  TF kicking in his own money to keep it afloat. 

TF why do you think your illegal ponzi scheme should not be regulated to protect your investors?



Regulated by whom? Government busybodies?

Yeah thats what we all want right, for some uneducated Government employees who work 9-5 shit kicking to start dictating how we should invest and run our business, things these busybodies could not possibly understand.

Mistakes get made dude, get over it. Like everyone says, invest what you can afford to lose. As long as we don't start getting grandpa to invest his retirement and we warn all users of the chance of failure then like adults we should be allowed to do what we want with our money.

3192  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 21, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
I think someone wants cheap shares.....

Stuartuk just single handedly dropped the entire share price by 0.00002 BTC.

Shows how fragile this stock is.
3193  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Theoretical Ceiling on Difficulty on: August 21, 2013, 01:10:16 PM
<quote>So your hacker/cracker would need to invest millions and millions of dollars into computers to complete that puzzle. Once you can complete the puzzle faster than the rest of the network continuously, you can then do those cracker things like committing double spends and blocking other peoples transactions.</quote>

Blah blah blah. What's the ratio between how much a miner has to invest in mining to how much a hacker would have to invest into decryption in order to break sha256 or whatever the fuck?

Haha ok so you are a troll.

  • 1. Your quotes are messed up, please fix.
  • 2. The only reasonable way to attack Bitcoin is to buy/build as many miners as possible.
  • 3. A ratio of 1:10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 exists for mining:breaking sha256 for the goal of "haxxoring" Bitcoin.
  • 4. Maybe you should read the Bitcoin wiki and Satoshi's paper and educate yourself. At the moment you lack ability to research, you lack basic social skills and you most certainly lack intelligence.
3194  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Theoretical Ceiling on Difficulty on: August 21, 2013, 11:57:28 AM
As far as I understand it, the practical benefit to the BTC network to having increased difficulty would be increased security and stability. Correct me if I'm wrong, CAUSE I'M A BIG FAT NOOB RETARD LOL

So let's all pretend we're all l33t h4x0rs who want to compromise the BTC network for fun and *profit*. How high would the difficulty need to be for me as a hacker to be discouraged from attempting to steal/manipulate/whatever from the BTC network? What kind of resources (financial, hardware, connections etc) would a haxxor need to overcome the increased security that comes from increased difficulty levels? Again, I'm assuming that that's what increased difficulty does, or else what's the point of having all these expensive ASICs taking up all this power.

You are correct that increased difficulty makes it harder to tamper with the network, but I think that you are completely unaware about the process in which the Bitcoin network secures itself.

Basically computers are put to a task, a puzzle if you like. This puzzle releases Bitcoins and processes transactions for the network. This process is required but needs to have decentralized computing power otherwise a malicious entity could control the network. If someone controls the network they can block transactions and do other nasty stuff.

The networks needs a small amount of work done (processing the transactions) but can't allow 1 person to do what they want. So essentially the network gives the computers a puzzle, once complete the transactions are processed and a incentive to do this is a release of Bitcoins. To stop 1 person making millions of blocks and getting all the Bitcoins the network adjusts to make this puzzle harder and harder (As a function of the speed the puzzle is being completed, if the puzzle gets completed to fast the puzzle becomes even harder) The released money so valuable that lots of people are trying to complete the puzzle. This means as more and more people want those Bitcoins it becomes more and more unlikely any 1 person could get them all, because they would need to have more computing power than the rest of the network to gain control.

So your hacker/cracker would need to invest millions and millions of dollars into computers to complete that puzzle. Once you can complete the puzzle faster than the rest of the network continuously, you can then do those cracker things like committing double spends and blocking other peoples transactions.
3195  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 19, 2013, 02:08:33 PM
will, what's your estimated time until we are hashing?
3196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: August 17, 2013, 06:09:54 PM
* minimal fees of just 1% on net investment profits to cover site expenses.  (fees will be 5% from 7th July)

You should update this because the fee has grown to 10% now.

This is not exactly what I have been expecting after reading this:

I plan to make the accounts transparent too.  I'll itemize how much has been collected in commission, and how it has been spent.  Kind of like SDICE, but without the $10k/month sysadmin fees. If the 1% commission on investor profits is more than the site needs, I'll cut it.

I haven't followed all the posts in this thread but were the expenses of running the site listed anywhere?

Did SDICE really only cost investors $10k/month? JD is already at $5k - $10k/week. Smiley
3197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Idea for {drawingthesuncoin} on: August 17, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
These are not bitcoin but you can start an alt-coin.

Yeah I know. I was in the mood for a discussion with Bitcoiners about possible future systems because I feel that the proof of work and the reducing block reward do not create a viable future for Bitcoin. The alternative coin forum is very much scam-coin central.
3198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Idea for {drawingthesuncoin} on: August 17, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
You aren't adding anything to the discussion.  Many have made the same claims you are making, and the matter has been debated endlessly elsewhere.

This is not a technical discussion, so it does not belong here, it belongs in economics.  However, in economics, there are probably dozens threads over the years from people proposing this exact idea.

I'm not trying to be mean.  I'm just letting you know that your ideas are not new, and if you'd like to know what the community thinks of them, you should read the other threads on this subject.

Ok I get that, I will discontinue the discussion here and do some more research perhaps.

However I admitted that Bitcoin 2.0 was a rehash of old ideas, but warrented serious concideration now that services like inputs.io are starting to gain traction. I felt in previous discussions that this issue is hand waved away with "tx fees will be enough" even though no one has even modelled an actual future scenario. Perhaps I should do some more in depth research of my own and model both systems to determine the most secure and usable one. My hunch is that a constant block reward will be better to secure the network in the long term.

I also posted here because I wanted a technical discussion about Bitcoin 3.0 and how perhaps a proof of work that is to secure and maintain a distributed computing/internet/communication/storage/distribution platform based around a currency.

I think that people would take some of these ideas more seriously if they were either implemented in code (Bitcoin 3.0) or modelled against current systems mathematically(Bitcoin 2.0) In the future I will put in more work and attempt either of these things. Without a model or code to backup my hunch I guess I am just another loon on the forums.

Thats for replying though, I appreciate that rather than being ignored.

Cheers Smiley
3199  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: August 17, 2013, 07:15:04 AM

They went out after I changed the config and restarted the bitcoind process.

Cheers.

Could please check both my accounts for withdrawals?

drawingthesun2 and drawingthesun3

The transactions still have not shown up on the blockchain.
3200  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: August 17, 2013, 06:15:51 AM
We had an issue with our bitcoind not being able to reach it's trusted peer.  It should be back now.  This is the second time in the last couple of days this has happened, so I have added a couple more to the trusted peer list.

Cheers.

Are you releasing the funds back into our wallets or just pushing those transactions out?
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