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321  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 11, 2014, 01:36:45 AM
Surely this is a good casiṇ. But you've to increase advertise if you want to expand Wink

Only 643BTC Wagered, you've to do more of this !  Angry

Site is just 3 months old. No need to rush things out.

Precisely.  We are purposely taking things slow since we are in this for the long run and want to ensure everything is perfected across the board before we start a big marketing push.

Let's just say "you ain't seen nothin' yet".  We are just getting started and lots of exciting surprises to come Smiley

When we are checking the all bets, the limit is sometimes <49.5000 and sometimes >50.5000. How is it being determined when the less than will be counted and when the greater than will be ?

The < sign means exclusive of that value.  In those cases, 49.5 and 50.5 are on the other side of the fence so to speak.
This makes sense also, whether choosing to roll over or roll under, it is necessary to be consistent.

 
 
322  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 10, 2014, 04:13:19 AM
Make the jackpot something like 0.01 BTC or 1 mBTC for 10,000 bets or something

Of course - we have plans for a wide range of larger jackpots on different intervals.

We just need to built something to properly showcase the larger ones and also make users more aware of winning them as well.
Given the often high speed of play, monster jackpots would currently go un-noticed Smiley
323  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 10, 2014, 04:07:28 AM
Cool site and I like what you did here, maybe a bit to heavy as it doesn't load fast for me as some other sites.

To bad you don't have more money for advertising, affiliate programs simply don't work Sad


1) Actually, we have very deep pockets for advertising.  We are purposely taking things slow to do things right and also in preparation of our next game release which will know everyone's socks off.

2) Not every affiliate program works, but I have great confidence that ours will and we have some super-affiliates preparing to join.
When payments are based on results and also every referral yields long term payouts, the cumulative effect of multiple referrals over time can be staggering.
Even a small affiliate after the course of a few weeks or months can rack up a nice collection of players and see perpetual payouts even if they stop referring.

3) Our payments are automated.  For the first week, we paid all 50 people who successfully referred wagers.
Here's a screenshot of the Top 20 for week 1 at the time of automated payment distribution.



324  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in - New Thread to Discuss on: September 10, 2014, 03:50:56 AM
It's always a shame to see things like this happen, especially given all of the honest operators who are in this for the long run (Primedice, Just-dice when they accepted bets, Win88 ...)

Operators should always aim to play the long game and it's critical to be honest and fair across the board.
And to have rockstar developers who build things right and use much more precision than 8 decimal places.

At win88.me we paid back our investors when we were allowing 99.99% edge investments (which was of course riskier for investors given dead even odds).
And we did so without anyone even asking. 

It's important to be proactive with or without a mistake and in this case I hope that DiceBitco.in finds a way to make things right with their players for the sake of integrity with the overall industry.




325  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 09, 2014, 08:09:54 AM
Surely this is a good casiṇ. But you've to increase advertise if you want to expand Wink

Only 643BTC Wagered, you've to do more of this !  Angry

Site is just 3 months old. No need to rush things out.

Precisely.  We are purposely taking things slow since we are in this for the long run and want to ensure everything is perfected across the board before we start a big marketing push.

Let's just say "you ain't seen nothin' yet".  We are just getting started and lots of exciting surprises to come Smiley
326  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 09, 2014, 01:53:58 AM
Should I keep my sig?  By the way, please approve my cashout!

Thanks
fish

Your cashout was automatically approved within 1 minute of your request Smiley
327  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 08, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
1 hour more to go. For those who joined the affiliate program, please post how much you received from it. Thanks! Smiley

i got around 0.17BTC  Cheesy

Requested cashout

loves win88.me

Cashout approved and on its way Smiley
328  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 06, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
Strange stuff happening on the website. First they changed the jackpot ratio from every 25/50/100/200 to 200 only. And than they made it only for ppl who dice for at least 50k satoshi...

After a few days i realized that you are not able to dice for winning chance %99.98 ---> Dont get fooled by the probability you were still able to loose even with that probability. But i think i made over 200mbtc within 6 hours just by playing on that his with all bank each time...

After i made around 200/300mbtc somehow i started to loose Smiley so frequent. At first i didnt understand what was happening but the story didnt take long to reveal. Admin or Dev guys realized that i was winning so they changed probability to highest possible %98 and now guess what Smiley Even with %98 you will loose at least 1 time on your successive 7/8 dice which doesnt make sense at all. Try it and see

If you ask on chat they say this is gambling Smiley Wouuv o'really? You better stay away from that site just my personal suggestion. Cool

The site is provably fair and you can verify every single round of Dice and other games.

In terms of jackpots, we change the values and intervals to keep things interesting and to balance free players with bigger betters in terms of distribution of rewards.
329  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 06, 2014, 02:38:10 PM
TO admin of This SITE : Win88.me

UNBAN my account.

I have deposited lots of BTC to your website to play with.

And when i started winning, my account got disabled!

Nick: zertopa




It appears your account was automatically disabled since you created multiple accounts.
Send a message to customer support ("leave a message" section of the site) explaining why you created multiple accounts please.

330  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 05, 2014, 02:30:14 AM
Is this working? I got some referals and im not on the list, or this referals are lying to me Cheesy

/edit well when i try to enter the link it instantly turns to 'https://win88.me/?' maybe thats why my referals doesnt work? Should it be like that?

1) Please ensure you are using the /USR link found on win88.me
2) The redirect to ? already captures and counts the referral assuming your referral visited using your link
3) People need to play as well in order to join the leaderboard since it is based on wagers.  Even Free play counts as of now.
4) If you are referring yourself it's possible your 2nd and 3rd account are blocked.  Only 1 per person

We are also working on additional transparency (i.e. allowing you insight into exactly who you referred etc)
It's on our list of to do's
331  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 04, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
Hm, I'm wondering how this referall thing is actually working.

Currently I see: Don007 0.06346670 0.00962086 (= last: BTC reward), at the leaderboards. However, this was a bit more earlier.

Could someone explain this to me? When will these rewards be added to my balance?

Allthough this obviously bring in some BTC for me, I think a "normal" signature campaign might earn more.



1) Payments will be automatically sent to your account when the Countdown timer hits 0
2) When we reach certain milestones, we add to the Prize pool.  Your share goes up/down based on your percentage of total BTC wagered from referrals
3) You should also consider the long term effects of your referrals.  People that keep playing will earn you returns for player lifetime (even if you stop new referrals).  As your number of playing referrals adds up you should be seeing much much more per month once you reach critical mass.


332  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 02, 2014, 12:10:36 AM
I sent a message to Win88 with request of deleting my Win88 account - I don't want any reffs - I don't want to be a part of it.

Win88 is cheeky company who is looking for cheap advertising.

I hope Win88 admins will delete my account soon.



Per your request, your account has been de-activated.

We were never looking for "cheap advertising" and are certainly not cheeky.  Cute word but that's not us!

You were paid for August (and did not even bear our signature the entire time).
I am sorry you are upset for us not paying you for 2 more months in advance as you requested.
333  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 02, 2014, 12:09:59 AM
Just wait until people actually wake up Win88 forum is DEAD right now, no activity.

Yes we got paid half for August, at least I did, no question there. But since the thread until two hours ago said we were getting paid today, we we were expecting payments today, and for the signature campaign to go on for at least September.

I was also under the impression that they were going to carry on this signature campaign for another month.
The absolute least they could have done was give a warning or explain they were thinking about switching to this spammy affiliate link thing..
I am not impressed.

I believe that win88.me did not do this to be malicious nor have they tried to dupe anyone.

Infact they are simply trying to avoid being scammed by users which were taking the payments up front and switching signatures or not meeting the criteria laid out in the OP.
Although a word of warning would have been nice prior to the rules changing, I can understand they have done this in order to prevent further scam/sig swapping from forum users. The affiliate program also allows those with a bit of determination to make much more than they would through the signature campaign which I view as a good thing personally. Hopefully users affected can come to terms with this and realize the potential of the new affiliate program. The site is only going to get better. Also a little birdy told me that a roll bot may be implemented soon, I'm personally excited to see it updated when it comes.

But if they want to avoid being scammed, they could just pay at the end of the month and put some BTC into a trusted escrow so everyone knows that there will be payments.


Escrow still does not solve the problem.  As many of you have seen, several other ops (including the very biggest) have just opted not to pay or make excuses about people not meeting their terms and conditions.

This is why we opted for up front payments to be honorable from the start and never leave anyone wondering.
Sadly this was abused.

We are sorry for the short notice, but this was not some intentionally sneaky decision.
Over the weekend we reviewed performance, metrics, individual signatures, etc. and made a business decision based on the outcome.

We paid everyone that we admitted up front for August and made a decision to go another direction for September.
We did not take advantage of people and are still offering a way to earn based on performance.

We have always been honorable in our operations so please stop the hate.


334  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 01, 2014, 11:38:43 PM
Have they started to pay the Affiliate Rewards or they are just being shown as dummy ? Has anyone really been able to get those Rewards withdrawn ?

The affiliate program will automatically distribute payments when the countdown hits 0 (in around 6 days).
The pre-cursor to the affiliate program was the referral contest (0.25 BTC for 1st place which was paid immediately)
335  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 01, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
If he lowers the min withdraw for his site everything would be fine for me,

but if we can't withdraw our commision for the last month, then it is a big scam.

One easy solution is to deposit the difference and then withdraw.
Given that cashouts are automated at that level, this will happen for you automatically without us doing anything or needing any approval.

Since we provide jackpots, multiplayer once we turn RPSLS back on, 2000 faucet on frequent intervals, etc. we cannot have a super low cashout point.
Otherwise we would need to consider holding back many of our giveaways.  

This site is fair and honest not a scam.

Furthermore, we are always willing to work with people on an individual basis - just chat with our support or use the "leave a message feature".
Rather than assume the worst or say we don't accommodate people, ask first!  We cannot help people if we do not know the problem.
336  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 01, 2014, 09:33:57 AM
Its unfair to blame people for not posting/running with your money. People didn't ask for upfront payments... the best way to operate would have been using a trustworthy escrow. Using an escrow is one of the most simple and basic fundamental concepts of this forum... you should not have been surprised people just took the money.

@RCHumprhey - we are not blaming anyone nor are we taking things out on anyone either.
Part of growing any company is to try different things (even if they are outside what others do).  This is how innovation happens.

We are optimistic and like to believe the best in people.  Some may call this naive, but given that Bitcoin itself is built on transparency, we wanted to take an approach first of giving people a chance.

We are a fast growing and fast moving company.  Our affiliate program is here to stay and that too will continue to improve and adapt (perhaps even to encapsulate minimums for people based on number of posts as one example).  

Thanks for everyone's patience as we continue to make win88 the best site we can.  



Thanks for trying. I think you guys have behave very fair to everyone here as far as the signature campaign goes
I keep my signature a little longer, its the best after all, even if it didnt win.  The referral thing is still very cool and not to be disregarded.  
anyway i realised i havent changed to the number format for my ref link, does the username format still work?  going to fix it now anyhow Cheesy



Thanks digit for continuing to be an all around positive member of the win88 community: player, investor, referrer, and always suggesting great ideas with a positive attitude.  Love it.
337  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 01, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
Just wait until people actually wake up Win88 forum is DEAD right now, no activity.

Yes we got paid half for August, at least I did, no question there. But since the thread until two hours ago said we were getting paid today, we we were expecting payments today, and for the signature campaign to go on for at least September.

I was also under the impression that they were going to carry on this signature campaign for another month.
The absolute least they could have done was give a warning or explain they were thinking about switching to this spammy affiliate link thing..
I am not impressed.

i have never received a confirmation...


now you change the rules? what about who are waiting news from win88 and doing free publicity?

I am sorry if you feel that you were wronged.

As with others who were not on the list of the first 100+ we paid out in August, we did not send you a message saying you were admitted to the campaign.
We did not lead you on and your choice to advertise was your own.

We made posts in this thread mentioning our affiliate program which is what we have elected to migrate to.
And simply by posting (assuming you are using the /USR referral link), any referrals you have made bearing your signature count toward that campaign and you will be paid accordingly for any referrals you have made.

We have over 200 people who have expressed interest in the signature campaign across different channels and this is why we have moved to a more streamlined system which accommodates not only signatures but also people who refer through any means.

Thanks for your message and allowing us to explain our position.

338  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 01, 2014, 09:12:53 AM
Okay with me. Though i have been expecting a new payment for September. Things have been changing very rapidly.

At first i thought i will get 0.12 btc in 1st Sep
Then i thought i will get 0.02 every 5 days
Then everything changes into an affliate program   Sad


But think of this in this way:

1) Prize pool: 0.5 BTC every week  = 2-2.5 BTC a month

2) You can use different sig and earn for that too

3) Doesn't affect whether u r newbie, jr. member or anything

4) Fairer to win88. Payments for actual referrals.

5) It is a lot fairer. minimum of wager/winnings count.

6) Multiple winners. (last time it was just one for affiliate program)


Net effect:
They combined the signature campaign and the affiliate program into a single one, which doesn't pay you for just sporting the signature but for actual referrers, which cuts expenditure and adds value to the campaign, which makes it a lot fairer to both sides


Well, u can't blame them. We just put our sig and wait for payment, while they have to solve issues, answer PMs, comments, and all that and a lot more
They paid us for the signature, for designing them and also for referrals
Thank them for their effort

So guys just get over it
Change your signature if u want to
Get some referrals
And win that 0.5 btc    Cheesy

It is still a cool offer



Thanks for your positive comment.

Also everyone, the 0.5 BTC is just the starting point.  We will add to the prize pool as more wagers occur from referrals.
Furthermore, any referrals you make will give you returns for the lifetime of those customers.  As long as they keep betting you win from their wagers whether you continue your signature or not.  And you can advertise by other means as well (blogs, email, social media, etc).
339  Economy / Services / Re: win88.me - affiliate program - earn up to 0.5BTC per week on: September 01, 2014, 09:09:41 AM
Its unfair to blame people for not posting/running with your money. People didn't ask for upfront payments... the best way to operate would have been using a trustworthy escrow. Using an escrow is one of the most simple and basic fundamental concepts of this forum... you should not have been surprised people just took the money.

@RCHumprhey - we are not blaming anyone nor are we taking things out on anyone either.
Part of growing any company is to try different things (even if they are outside what others do).  This is how innovation happens.

We are optimistic and like to believe the best in people.  Some may call this naive, but given that Bitcoin itself is built on transparency, we wanted to take an approach first of giving people a chance.

We are a fast growing and fast moving company.  Our affiliate program is here to stay and that too will continue to improve and adapt (perhaps even to encapsulate minimums for people based on number of posts as one example).  

Thanks for everyone's patience as we continue to make win88 the best site we can.  

340  Economy / Gambling / Re: WIN88.ME - NEW - PAID AFFILIATE PROGRAM - INVEST - DICE | LOTTO on: September 01, 2014, 08:58:33 AM
Due to abuse of the signature campaign, we have replaced it with a more general Affiliate program which is earnings based on referrals.
Kindly read the 1st Post from this thread for more details.

Everyone has the chance to earn much more than their signature campaign if they are actively posting and promoting the site. [...]

Most people avoid affiliate programs, as there is no guarantee of any return for your efforts. Instead, pay per post campaigns are far more popular - even sites as popular as PrimeDi,e were unable to transition a significant portion of its members to the affiliate program, when they changed the campaign recently, for example. If the main issue was people abusing the sig campaign, wouldn't it be better to switch to paying at the end of the term, while holding funds in escrow?


Affiliate programs suck ass unless you're the 1% of the population that is popular and knows how to attract people.

I probably would of left that trust on there if it wasn't September first, the day that 30+ people were expecting to get paid, that you announced this change. That's just not cool, was expecting more from Win88.

Very very sneaky that you did not say this before, but yet kept promising new and greater things.

An affiliate program is great, if it's mixed with a signature program that you get paid per post. If it's not it just sucks, who is going to take the chance of getting nothing because they couldn't get new users to click on their signature, when tons of other programs pay per post, atleast a flat monthly fee for using the signature.


We were nice to you when you had a trust of -4 and gave you a chance including paying you up front just like everyone else.
Why are you suddenly such a hater when you were paid fairly for your signature when no one else gave you a chance.

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