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321  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 21, 2012, 01:15:45 AM
I understand speakers and sound waves. I like my 10" sunfire sub...it's doesn't cost a fortune, but it's tight enough for my purposes.

I bet my bass cabinet could hang with your subs... 1x15" and 2x10" with a 600w head.
322  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 21, 2012, 12:47:48 AM
I like just about every genre except for country

but my favorite is music with lots of bass and dubstep has tons of bass

I've also noticed that if someone has a shit sound system they don't like dubstep because well it sounds like shit on a shit system

I've got 2 15in subs and 2 12in subs in my room that pool around 800 watts
and it sounds amazing!

Do you like monster trucks too, because they are loud?
323  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 20, 2012, 11:29:13 PM
I seriously can't believe anyone without brain damage takes pleasure from dubstep.

Maybe I don't do enough ketamine.

You don't eat enough magic mushrooms  Tongue

I just like music, not the sound your hear as you're getting choked out.
324  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 20, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
I seriously can't believe anyone without brain damage takes pleasure from dubstep.

Maybe I don't do enough ketamine.
325  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Network hash just spiked about 50% on: February 20, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
See the changes in difficulty? No indication that they provoke wild changes in the the estimated hash rate.

See a 15TH data point there?

My guess is you got your "15TH/s" from somewhere else.  Somewhere that to avoid complex calculations simply looks at blocks and time since last difficulty reset (it avoids needing to adjust for multiple difficulty values).  Those sites tend to be insanely in accurate in the first 30 or so blocks after difficulty change.

Care to point out where you say 15TH/s?


Doesn't it feel good to be right? I rarely have the luxury, but when I do...oh boy...
326  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Rig Box on: February 20, 2012, 11:00:23 PM
The address is odd, seems scammy. Happy to be proven wrong.

25E 12th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64106

That's a 12 story building, usually a suite number is needed for large buildings.

Its # 804, a cheap 1 or 2 bedroom apt., I agree that it has a whiff of something, but Inaba is putting his reputation on the line by backing them. (he has met with them in person)

Apparently ten years experience in FPGA design hasn't netted him enough profit for a real office.

Know much about start-ups? 

http://www.retireat21.com/blog/10-companies-started-garages


I probably know a lot more than you...I am 27, have started and sold two successful businesses, and am currently starting an aquaponics operation with some associates and a few million dollars in city, state and federal redevelopment grants. But hey...you quoted something on the internet, so you must be right.

Every company starts relatively small. Generally, though, they do not use customers as investors and rely on preorders to fund their development and production runs.

People keep saying they're a scam and a fraud and it's been proven by a third party that is in fact *not* a fraud.  So quit it with this bullshit.  Quit fucking with every thread where someone wants to discuss technical details because you guys can't get the design process through your thick skulls.

What technical details are there to discuss? There is ONE, I repeat: ONE confirmed unit in the wild, and it is a hack job at that. That proves absolutely fucking nothing as far as fraud is concerned. It is already a very clear bait-and-switch, seeming as they never developed a prototype to the 'guaranteed' specs that they took customer funds for.

I agree with D&T. You looked better before your big post laying it all down for us simpletons.
327  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 5830 for $100 -- good price? on: February 19, 2012, 07:52:59 AM
5830 is one of the more inefficient cards as far as watts per megahash. 5870s are amongst the best, iirc. That hardware comparison is pure gold for picking cards, but discard all the outliers.
328  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: State of Bitcoin on: February 19, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Not sure, what you are trying to say...
If it is a mistake to play by the rules here, why put them up in the first place?

I was just cracking a joke seeming as there are very few people acting like grown ups outside of the development forums. It's kind of a free-for-all, and descends into chaos from there.

There don't seem to be any rules here, other than arbitrary bans for off-topic or ultra-offensive posts.
329  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: February 19, 2012, 07:47:51 AM
I'm wondering if the holdup is related to having problems with more than one box hooked up? Maybe they haven't gotten multiples working together yet? I'm wondering how it would work even. Would each one be given a slice of the pie to chew on or ?

There is no such thing as 'working together' with simple brute-forcing. Everyone in the whole network is biting at the same slice of pie. Probability is the only thing preventing massive repetition of work.
330  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: February 19, 2012, 07:45:30 AM
Good grief, is that your phone number under your avatar?
No, it's my wife's. She likes to meet new people through my affairs.

I had four wives once. Until their husbands came and got them.


As every day passes, human relationships and related affairs begin to seem more alien to me. It's probably my nihilism continuing to consume my mind.

Yeah, I've learned very quickly that commitments to free beings can only go so far. True family can be different although anything can happen.

Trust is such an interesting creature. I love how Bitcoin makes it its bitch.

Oh atlas...

331  Other / Off-topic / Re: Idea: Ban a user for $10 in Bitcoins. on: February 19, 2012, 02:18:18 AM

Thank you, Randy. I learned a new word today--epigrammatic. BTW, can I borrow a sawbuck?


I think the cool kids call it a sawski...
332  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: State of Bitcoin on: February 19, 2012, 02:06:46 AM

I am posting here in order to earn my right at the table of "BTC grown-ups" and to have a "grown-up" voice.

Well, there was your first mistake. There are about a dozen people on this forum who aren't at least 50% troll...
333  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Network hash just spiked about 50% on: February 19, 2012, 02:03:32 AM
That's quite a spike.  I'm going to simply guess a lot of people powered on rigs since the difficulty did not spike so they know they can have two more weeks of "consistent" block generation / earnings.

I am failing to see a statistically significant jump in that graph...certainly not 50%.

Why would they have powered off and then powered on with very little change in the situation, save for a drop in the price of BTC, and thus a drop in their profitability?
334  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: February 18, 2012, 09:31:16 PM

I had a cool idea, someone should make a FPGA miner that fits into a 3.5 drive bay...  then you could hide a few in your system at work Smiley hehehe



And get fired when the IT guy notices your computer never stops talking...
335  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Network hash just spiked about 50% on: February 18, 2012, 09:28:25 PM
No, the global hashrate is extrapolated from the rate that blocks are found. A lucky streak will make it look like the hashrate is higher than it actually is.

Beyond that, the sample period is too small immediately following a difficulty change so the numbers are always way off for a few days.

I agree with you first point - it is true that it's block discovery rate, not hashrate, that is directly measured, and that it's possible we're just seeing a lucky period. However, your second point doesn't make any sense: what do you mean by the sample period? The block discovery rate is calculated by adding up N blocks over the past T minutes/hours, and then calculating N/T. The calculation of block discovery rate should be completely independent of both the difficulty, and where we are within a given 2016 block period. So, why should we inevitably see more variation in hash rate at the beginning of a 2016 block period? What you're suggesting is that T (the 'period' you mentioned) automatically resets to zero at the end of a 2016 block period. Well, I was taking the rate value from bitcoincharts.com, so if that's the way they do it, then yes I would expect a large over or under-estimate *just after* a change of difficulty. For a few days though? That makes no sense at all - think about it.


That is the way they do it, and a few days is a small sample period compared to two weeks. Probability, homie...shit's all over the place.

Try out the search function. This has been beaten to death since this forum's inception.
336  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Network hash just spiked about 50% on: February 18, 2012, 08:04:27 PM
No, the global hashrate is extrapolated from the rate that blocks are found. A lucky streak will make it look like the hashrate is higher than it actually is.

Beyond that, the sample period is too small immediately following a difficulty change so the numbers are always way off for a few days.
337  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Most Bitcoins Mined Without Solving a Block? on: February 18, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
It's odd...after solving just one block in a reasonable amount of time at a pool, I really want to solo mine   Grin

Do it. There is no reason why you shouldn't, unless you really need a $5 a day trickle flowing in.
338  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need your hashing Power paying 0.00006 per share on: February 18, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
This guy fucked over more than one person, mining for him. Stay away !

*citation needed

There is no BS needed. If more than 5 different people complain about being not paid, that's enough for me to warn others. This guy should have been sticking to solo mining Roll Eyes

See the post above yours. Not everyone reads every thread. Perhaps helping them to become informed is more productive than screaming "scammer!".
339  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: February 18, 2012, 07:56:41 PM
Why did Epoch's post disappear?
340  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need your hashing Power paying 0.00006 per share on: February 18, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
No citation needed.

This guy needs the scammer tag asap.

Same as "A1BITCOINPOOL" scammer.

See this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64211

See, that is an explanation. Just shouting "scammer!" is meaningless without linking the proof.
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