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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 23, 2015, 12:16:15 PM
 Grin
''it's a huge advantage that bitcoin has a built in voting process to handle upgrades, checks and balances on maintainers of any fork, etc''
~~Brian Armstrong~~
322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 23, 2015, 08:53:17 AM
now that there is no donation address, can we not just import the dumped priv key from the cold wallet payment address to another unsafe hot wallet, I tried this and imported the priv key into the new wallet, and seems to work fine.
If you send within the hot wallet from the imported address to another address within the same wallet, this will make the payment balance of the 1k cold wallet disappear but will keep the 1k bounty intact.
So, effectively the 2 wallets are twinned by 1 mutually exclusive address.
wondering is this a 100% secure way of receiving masternode payments to an unsafe hot wallet, as the priv key for the 1k is still safe in the cold wallet that never has to be started up, am I missing anything, anyone ?
And my question still stands,
is there any security threat for the cold wallet by sharing only one private key between 2 wallets to use as a donation address,
anyone, please ??

Hmmm.  A little confused, but I do want to know how you can do it.  Could you explain with my diagram above where the change payment and 1k address start and end up?
The 1k bounty private key is never disclosed and the 1k balance can never be removed from the cold wallet as far as I know because you only pair 1 private key belonging to a 'payment' address.
Think of it like a partially shared bank account with your girlfriend or wife (she has gambling/shopping problems so you allow a weekly allowance)
You both have separate bank accounts and can not draw out from each others main balance using your own account but you can draw out from a special trading account deposit number that is the same for both of you within your accounts.
This is a trusted number as either party can empty the balance, but they can not empty the balance of the rest of the account as they do not have access, and if either party moves the balance to another address within in the account-the deposit is no longer visiable to the other person.

To help you guys, I could write a short guide in the masternode guide help section and people can add their thoughts on it from there rather then getting lost in this thread (again, hehe) ...
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 23, 2015, 07:01:16 AM
now that there is no donation address, can we not just import the dumped priv key from the cold wallet payment address to another unsafe hot wallet, I tried this and imported the priv key into the new wallet, and seems to work fine.
If you send within the hot wallet from the imported address to another address within the same wallet, this will make the payment balance of the 1k cold wallet disappear but will keep the 1k bounty intact.
So, effectively the 2 wallets are twinned by 1 mutually exclusive address.
wondering is this a 100% secure way of receiving masternode payments to an unsafe hot wallet, as the priv key for the 1k is still safe in the cold wallet that never has to be started up, am I missing anything, anyone ?
This is intriguing.  So let me lay this out graphically so I can understand.

Original MN Wallet               New Wallet
1000 coins in key A
Dump private key A
                                       Import private key A
                                       Send funds from key A to key B

Key A has 0 coins                Key B has 1000 coins
Rewards deposit in Key A      Rewards deposit in key A

Am I close on this?  I think the original wallet would then be your hot wallet with spendable rewards.  The new wallet would have the 1000 coins and would stay cold.
Do both wallets need the same password?  Seems like something that could pose a problem.

Yep, I said the same a few pages ago, we are thinking the same,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12211403#msg12211403

And my question still stands,
is there any security threat for the cold wallet by sharing only one private key between 2 wallets to use as a donation address,
anyone, please ??


I don't understand how this can work.  The payments always go to the wallet address, or address, that has the 1000 coins.  If you send those coins to another address, that will be the address the payments are sent to, or worse, your masternode will no longer work, because you sent the coins out.  I don't understand the logic?

Unless what you're trying to say is you can import your private key into another wallet and access the coins, but that just puts the whole - what should have been cold - wallet into a more easily stolen situation.

I would never continue to use an account address that has had it's private key exposed via being typed into a wallet.  Maybe nobody can see, but I'm very paranoid.  I would only use a private key to recover coins, then send them on to a secure wallet afterwards.

Even still, I don't understand the logic of the first idea?  Because remember, the moment you move your coins out of your masternode address, the masternode ceases to work.

It works, I have tried it (but only on hot wallets so far!)
Do not confuse the 1k bounty private key with the 'donation' payment private key, they are separate entities.
You are only twinning one shared key between 2 wallets. Try it on 2 other wallets first, with listen=0 and run them at the same time, you will see what I mean.

Good morning ,btw.

Edit: Its an odd thing having only 1 shared address because if you move the coins around in same wallet using coin control, it can change the balance of the other wallet , but only 1 wallet of the 2 wallets balance has the potential to change at a time.(you must change the shared key for this to happen otherwise there is no change in both wallets)
324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 23, 2015, 06:49:57 AM
Hi,
anyone having problem with ver 47 ? my wallet says synchronization  failed at 75% ?
Please describe your issue in greater detail -
Some times it's just easier to delete everything - while saving your wallet.dat file -
 - and reinstall
Why beat a dead horse - ......
Just a thought here, but I have noticed that I can get a more reliable sync if I am downloading the blockchain (from scratch) at the same time, while this doesn't quite make sense-why download it all again anyway? But I am thinking that the download process slows the client down enough so that it syncs/aligns better with the network, basically helps match the speed of all the processes involved.
If you were on a slow computer like the Pi, this could be more of an issue perhaps.
325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 23, 2015, 06:40:30 AM
now that there is no donation address, can we not just import the dumped priv key from the cold wallet payment address to another unsafe hot wallet, I tried this and imported the priv key into the new wallet, and seems to work fine.
If you send within the hot wallet from the imported address to another address within the same wallet, this will make the payment balance of the 1k cold wallet disappear but will keep the 1k bounty intact.
So, effectively the 2 wallets are twinned by 1 mutually exclusive address.
wondering is this a 100% secure way of receiving masternode payments to an unsafe hot wallet, as the priv key for the 1k is still safe in the cold wallet that never has to be started up, am I missing anything, anyone ?
This is intriguing.  So let me lay this out graphically so I can understand.

Original MN Wallet               New Wallet
1000 coins in key A
Dump private key A
                                       Import private key A
                                       Send funds from key A to key B

Key A has 0 coins                Key B has 1000 coins
Rewards deposit in Key A      Rewards deposit in key A

Am I close on this?  I think the original wallet would then be your hot wallet with spendable rewards.  The new wallet would have the 1000 coins and would stay cold.
Do both wallets need the same password?  Seems like something that could pose a problem.

Edit: Yep, you are almost there, but the private key must be the change payment address and not the 1k address, they are different. And when you import the key to the new wallet, if it had 1 dash before, it will now add 1 dash to the hot wallet and remain in the cold wallet at the same time (twinned, so to speak, until moved to another address)

And my question still stands,
is there any security threat for the cold wallet by sharing only one private key between 2 wallets to use as a donation address,
anyone, please ??
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 22, 2015, 06:41:15 PM
Fun off topic chart  Grin

327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 22, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
now that there is no donation address, can we not just import the dumped priv key from the cold wallet payment address to another unsafe hot wallet, I tried this and imported the priv key into the new wallet, and seems to work fine.
If you send within the hot wallet from the imported address to another address within the same wallet, this will make the payment balance of the 1k cold wallet disappear but will keep the 1k bounty intact.
So, effectively the 2 wallets are twinned by 1 mutually exclusive address.
wondering is this a 100% secure way of receiving masternode payments to an unsafe hot wallet, as the priv key for the 1k is still safe in the cold wallet that never has to be started up, am I missing anything, anyone ?
328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 22, 2015, 12:30:57 PM
Any links to best Windows AMD miners for x11, Wolf0's I think?
Cheers.
below sgminer v5.0
https://www.nicehash.com/?p=software
and Reuben's detailed guide with wolf0's links,
https://dashtalk.org/threads/reubens-guide-to-mining-dash-with-an-amd-gpu-on-windows.4051/
329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 22, 2015, 08:30:20 AM
In the beginning,
http://web.archive.org/web/20130509235146/http:/coinmarketcap.com/
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 21, 2015, 08:12:36 AM
Dash price hasnt been moving violently while BTC goes up and down in USD term
https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/dash/btc
I see the masternodes like shock absorbers on a car:-
when there are bumpy price movements downwards this produces a counter acting force and increased dampening factor of more buy ins for extra masternodes.
when the price goes bumpity up, people empty their spare change from the masternodes, producing a counter acting (and higher dampened) force downwards on the price.
Hence both reactions are equal and opposite forces against the market price trend thus evening out the larger spikes to smoother price swings.
331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 21, 2015, 06:34:17 AM
Lightning nodes are probably MSBs as they are holding and transmitting peoples' money. Whether that matters is another story, as the nodes will likely be managed by few large entities collecting the fees being their business model and can afford the license.
Sounds pie in the sky to me, in 12 months it may not even matter so where will the incentive be? Grin
332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 21, 2015, 06:11:10 AM
Thanks Sub-Ether.  Maybe there should be a check of used keys(n) during shutdown.  It adds the keypool=n+1000 in the config file to generate more keys.  If backups are done on startup and each mix uses 200 keys, this should always keep a valid backup(even up to 4 or 5 mix sessions).
EDIT: I added keypool=2000 in my config and it didn't changed my wallet size.  I had to run keypoolrefill to get the wallet to change size. 
Suggestion:  Set keypool as needed to keep 1000 free addresses.  On shutdown run keypoolrefill and backup wallet.
Thats a good idea, have a counter for the number of keys used, and when the limit is near there could be a warning to backup your wallet - useful if doing a lot of mixing.
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 20, 2015, 05:42:10 AM
If I generate a new receive address on a wallet and send funds to it.  Then load an old wallet, it still gets the transaction.  Just the label of that transaction won't come through.  If all the inputs/outputs of mixing go through the blockchain an old wallet version should still get the inputs.  Is there something else that causes this to fail?  Maybe the wallet can't allow a send and receive from the same wallet when it syncs old transactions?  Can this be fixed?
Requiring a backup after mixing doesn't seem like a production level solution.
Backup wallets keep 1000 unused addresses.  If your mixing used up those addresses, then a backup will not show any of the addresses generated afterwards, and with nearly 1000 coins, you probably have gone through many of those addresses Smiley
Thanks TS.  Ahh.  Not so easy to fix that.
Crowning, thanks for your input too.  Any chance we can force a wallet backup after mixing?  Or maybe just add a note near the darksend mixing rounds/amount option or a dialog ok box that warns you to backup your wallet after mixing?
But you can increase the number of keys made with keypool in the config at wallet startup so using keypool=100000 for example.
Satoshi said that each key uses 1k, so normally only 1 megabyte space used for default 1000, you could easily increase it to 100,000 keys and still only use 100 megabytes, I imagine loadup and wallet encryption may be a little slow.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1414.0
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 20, 2015, 05:27:52 AM
So does masternode voting then solve the hard problem of 'Benevolent dictator for life' within an open source blockchain decision making conundrum that bitcoin is struggling with at the moment?
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/on-the-reign-of-benevolent-dictators-for-life-in-software/283139/
I know you're not meaning to be talking about Evan Duffield, but yes, I do think that's the plan.  This project, Dash, still very much has a leader, thus a "Benevolent Dictator" but I'm quite sure from what he has said, he doesn't want that position for life, LOL.  So how do you fill an entrepreneur's shoes?  You make the people compete.  Why would they compete?  Because they're gonna get paid!  So eventually, Evan should be able to step away knowing his project will survive Smiley  And with masternode voting + community input, direction should be a clear indication of which direction to go.
Even better, Evan could one day compete for funds for a new project, just like everyone else, and start something new.  He doesn't have to maintain the main program the rest of his life, but go off on his own once again, yet still be benefiting his baby, Dash.  As long as we can keep his interest, we can keep Evan!  You know I'm all for that!  LOL
So yes, I think so Smiley
Nice answer, Tante, you have a great grammatical prose way of summing up what I was trying to say.
I like how you left out the 'for life' part, so we can tick this off as another hard problem solved.

Hard problems solved already

How to instantly confirm a transaction in an otherwise slow blockchain while still part of the client and remaining decentralized : solved
How to provide lasting incentive to full nodes to seed quickly, reliably and guard network integrity : solved
How to resolve the 'benevolent dictator for life' in software development while maintaining decentralized leadership : solved
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 19, 2015, 08:11:06 PM
So does masternode voting then solve the hard problem of 'Benevolent dictator for life' within an open source blockchain decision making conundrum that bitcoin is struggling with at the moment?
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/on-the-reign-of-benevolent-dictators-for-life-in-software/283139/
336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 19, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
...Busy, busy, busy
Sub: When are you doing an updated sync test?
Your test scores are essential reading.
Coins, I am waiting for Thor's hammer to come down before timing V12, need the network to calm down otherwise the readings will be spurious, and the more fast masternodes to lock onto for seeding the better.
Btw, bitcoin does appear to be increasing it's Tao sync ratio, on the 7th March 2015 when the bitcoin v10 memory hop speed up was instigated (big speedup time) Tao = 3.3 seconds / hour, then on the 3rd August, bitcoin's Tao = 4.1 seconds / hour. This is not surprising with a congested network, poor seeding, full blocks and 40 gigabytes of blockchain to download - imagine what it will be like with 8 meg blocks if they get full quickly.
At the time, we were still a fork of bitcoin v0.9.3 with 0.11.2.23, so we didn't have Mr Andresen's 60 times memory hop speed up fixes fully in place.
In testnet, V12 update times were promising but we shall see  Grin ...
Thanks.
Looking forward to the results.

Coins, thanks! You helped give me an idea  Grin

The link lead me to this comment by Kristov Atlas,
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bitcoin-xt/irrzfMH_dfo
''Do you consider raising the block size limit to be an act of scaling the network? Based on my reading, it seems purely an act of increasing throughput, at the (difficult to quantify) cost of raising the minimum resource requirements for full nodes. Scaling in my amateur understanding is primarily about efficiency gains. If this fits at all with your understanding, what sorts of efficiency gains for the network are in the pipeline for Bitcoin-XT?''
Thanks,

~~Kristov~~

Then I had a brainstorm when he mentioned efficiency  Grin Grin Grin
wait for it ...

The blockchain efficiency is inversely proportional to the Tao ratio, (I should have seen that before)

None normalized efficiency = 1 / Tao

efficiency (Dash)   =  4.16%
efficiency (bitcoin) = 0.24%
efficiency (Monero) = 0.07%

Normalizing to 100% can be done by inversely scaling using the worst possible scenerio which for these purposes is Monero (Tao =14.2), the minimum value has to be assumed to be zero as the lower tao limit is unknown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_scaling

using this normalization method :-
[current tao - min tao) / (max tao - min tao)) * -1 ) +1)] * 100

so, finally, normalizing to always give 100% as the maximum using Monero as the highest value we have,

Normalized network/blockchain efficiencies

Dash efficiency = 98.3%
Bitcoin efficiency = 70.9%
Monero efficiency = 0%


I'll have to measure litecoin and a couple of others to stick in the middle somewhere!

[of course if there is a coin slower than Monero that sets the standard, this would mean Monero is more than zero]





337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 19, 2015, 08:08:48 AM
Whoops! Grin
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010379.html
''Connections are made over clearnet even when using a proxy or
onlynet=tor, which leaks connections on the P2P network with the real
location of the node. Knowledge of this traffic along with uptime metrics
from bitnodes.io can allow observers to easily correlate the location and
identity of persons running Bitcoin nodes''


edit: for more whoops ..
'Theres way over 1000 lines of code determining who gets banned, and as far as I can tell they ban people at will too... And that's where the real abuse will come in. If government got it they would ruin a lot of Bitcoin dealers overnight.'
~~Turtlehurricane~~
   
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BTCPOOL.EXCHANGE V2 (official thread) on: August 19, 2015, 07:51:02 AM
Good luck with your new exchange, nice to see mining with dash combined and listed.
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 19, 2015, 06:43:50 AM
...Busy, busy, busy
Sub: When are you doing an updated sync test?
Your test scores are essential reading.
Coins, I am waiting for Thor's hammer to come down before timing V12, need the network to calm down otherwise the readings will be spurious, and the more fast masternodes to lock onto for seeding the better.
Btw, bitcoin does appear to be increasing it's Tao sync ratio, on the 7th March 2015 when the bitcoin v10 memory hop speed up was instigated (big speedup time) Tao = 3.3 seconds / hour, then on the 3rd August, bitcoin's Tao = 4.1 seconds / hour. This is not surprising with a congested network, poor seeding, full blocks and 40 gigabytes of blockchain to download - imagine what it will be like with 8 meg blocks if they get full quickly.

At the time, we were still a fork of bitcoin v0.9.3 with 0.11.2.23, so we didn't have Mr Andresen's 60 times memory hop speed up fixes fully in place.
In testnet, V12 update times were promising but we shall see  Grin ...
340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: August 18, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Is hosting a masternode user friendly?
You might need to understand a tiny bit of Linux, but yes it's pretty easy.
You can have the remote machine as windows, depends if your host/location allows the option.
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