For a 4-GPU no riser build like Phillip, you NEED to go with blower-style cards. Fan type won't cool well enough (except the one card of the 4 that does NOT have another card blocking it's fan, THAT card you could use a fan-type card on).
Don't go with "founder edition" cards, their overall cooling is widely reported to be fairly poor.
So in my case it would be better to go with MSI AERO or Asus Turbo ? And why can't I use cards with fans, if they are slim enough ? After all I should maybe finally stay on risers build, but since my two current ones do not have any structure, I'll need to build one since I'm out of Lego and plastic baskets  ... |
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I would suggest you Gigabyte Gaming G1
fan 40/50%@60C
+Good VRM cooling.
It looks very nice. For sure, that's far from being the cheapest, but given the many positive feedbacks I got on that card, I'll probably go for it. Do you think I can fit 4 of those in a motherboard ? It looks quite fat so I'm not sure. Yes, It's not cheapest, but I'm not, that rich, to buy cheap things. And It's classic 2slot card. And what you mean by fitting 4cards on the mobo, you mean like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584973.msg15913928#msg15913928  hopefully not  Hopefully yes . The link you posted is exactly what I want to do and that's where I got the idea from. |
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What you linked is useless I think. I put everything simply on the table and it is working perfectly. Moreover, the McGyver look is really awesome !
Cleaned up gpu area a bit and now have 9 rigs running. 1,2,3 are four card z170 biostar open case = 12 cards 4 is a three card asus ............................. = 3 cards 5 is the 3-5 card gigabyte with 2 cards ..... = 2 cards I will add back 1 on friday 6 two cards in a b75m in a case............... = 2 cards 7 two cards in a b75m open air ............... = 2 cards 8 two cards in an asrock in a case .......... = 2 cards 9 two cards in the asrock 81 .................. = 2 cards I may 2 here. I think this can do 5 easy 25 cards one on the way will be 26 cards by friday.  Phil how I envy you and your cheap USA prices ! For exemple here the Biostar Racing is priced the equivalent of 268$ !!! |
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I would suggest you Gigabyte Gaming G1
fan 40/50%@60C
+Good VRM cooling.
It looks very nice. For sure, that's far from being the cheapest, but given the many positive feedbacks I got on that card, I'll probably go for it. Do you think I can fit 4 of those in a motherboard ? It looks quite fat so I'm not sure. |
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I'm not paying a premium, because the only cards that are cheaper are the KFA2, the Gainward and the MSI Turbo that has probably problems of cooling.
I've been seeing the Gigabyte cards for the same price as everybody else. Hint - those CHEAP cards have a bad tendancy to have fans DIE a lot, killing the card in many cases. BAD IDEA to try to save a couple bucks that way. IME avoid any card that does NOT use ball bearing fans - the longevity of those fans is a sad pathetic JOKE in 24/7 heavy-duty usage like mining imposes on a card. I've never even heard OF "KFA2" "jetstream" or "gamerock" brands. I'd be VERY WORRIED about a brand that has so few sales it has no reputation at all. Gainward and palit I've barely heard OF, but never seen a review of anything out of them just their actual web sites. Jetstream and Gamerock are Palit models. Okay, so I understand your point about fans. Can you suggest me a good card ? I do not need to know what's wrong, because until someone experienced something bad with it that is not related to a bad luck and tells it publicly here, I won't consider. So, to make short, what card do you recommend me ? |
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core is boostable without issue, just end in a crash if too much, but mem if you abuse the oc too much it can damage them, you can tell that by a possible persisting artifact
So as long as card is cool, core can be risen ? And according to you what's the best card ? g1 gaming palit gamerock and jetstream are among the best, i would avoid asus and msi, and there was some problem with zotac too So Zotac is not good ? That's sad, because the AMP! Extreme seemed a very good plan and was in promotion in a webshop. What make the card good or bad ? Only its cooling performance ? |
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core is boostable without issue, just end in a crash if too much, but mem if you abuse the oc too much it can damage them, you can tell that by a possible persisting artifact
So as long as card is cool, core can be risen ? And according to you what's the best card ? |
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Never look at the set clock, you set it yourself, for a clock to hold you need good cooling
Its that easy just get the cheapest card with good cooling
few week ago here cheapest was Gainward phoenix which maybe had a top range cooler, better then MSI gaming crap and better then giga G1
So what's the best card ? The KFA2 has pretty nice fans I think, but I'm probably not an expert in that domain I think. |
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I've had good luck with most PNY cards over many years, but they don't seem to be designed for high-end miner usage on their cooling systems.
MSI has a pretty good rep for mining.
I would AVOID founder edition cards, you're paying a premium for an INFERIOR cooling system and a non-factory-overclocked card with LOWER performance.
Gigabyte Windforce, Sapphire, and EVGA have been my go-to preferences.
I'm not paying a premium, because the only cards that are cheaper are the KFA2, the Gainward and the MSI Turbo that has probably problems of cooling.
Just don`t get MSI gaming 1070 they are dieing like flies, good choice would be:
Gainward phenix , Palit gamerock
Gigabyte G1
EVGA AMP, etc
Don't buy cheap basic model, they will boost less and you will lose 3-5% on hash rate
I never boost my cards as I fear to prematurely make them die. The KFA2 as a pretty high clock compared to the other ones : KFA2 : Base : 1 594MHz Boost : 1 784MHz Gainward : Base : 1 506MHz Boost : 1 683MHz Gigabyte : OC Mode : Base : 1 620MHz Boost : 1 822 MHz Gaming Mode : Base : 1 594MHz Boost : 1 784MHz Asus Strix : Gaming Mode (by default) Base : 1 531MHz Boost : 1 721MHz OC Mode Base : 1 506 MHz Boost : 1 683 MHz |
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I'm hesitating to which 1070 go for for my next build, featuring 4 cards in a an intern build. For now, I had KFA2 cards, very cheap and very powerful compared to most of the other cards according to the caracteristics. I was however thinking about PNY, a MSI or maybe Inno3D Founders Edition cards, as I love their design. What do you think of those cards ? Can you suggest something else ? Thank you by advance ! |
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Thank you for the tip. Since Newegg do not ship to my country, I was first worried, but I've found it in one single shop in my country. So this is available, at 280$, yeah, but that's the price of the other 4 PCI-e motherboards, so not really shocking. If I remember well, Phil use that one, so this is something reliable. Mine is a bit cheaper, but I think that being sure of the product is maybe more important than a few dozen of dollars.
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Hello, I'd like to know the feeling of specialists about this motherboard. It has 4 PCI-e slots, so it fits well my will of an intern 4 cards mining rig. However, this socket, Z87 seems old and I don't know it, so I'm not very sure. |
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Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.
The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".
Let me change the script here a bit!! I am not looking for cards priced that much. I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize! Thank you in advance. Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months. For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10. I have to agree with the windows 8 deal. I have windows 8 in there now and it seems that I am only getting half my hash rate as my windows 10 computer and I could not figure out why! I guess I am going to downgrade to windows 7 or do you think I should upgrade to windows 10? I am running a 266Mhz quad cpu with 8GB. Then go with Windows 7. That's what I use and I never had any problem. Some people are getting problems with Windows 10 Annuversary, so go with what's reliable. If you want some tips about which GPU to take ask me I'll help you depending of your budget. |
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I personally do not like open rigs, even if that's the system I applied for my two first ones. For now, I'll go for closed rigs, with 3 cards. I can explain you why if you want.
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Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.
The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".
Let me change the script here a bit!! I am not looking for cards priced that much. I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize! Thank you in advance. Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months. For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10. |
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First, I need to know the OS and the compute versions of those cards. The OS is easy to know, but the compute version is much harder. Please try to find it on Nvidia website.
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"300 h/s with wolf on win 8.1" is what's written in the comment field. So my questions are : what is your cpu miner and your OS.
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...but considering that it can mine at better rate other algo, it's worth it
This is one of the strong selling points for me. Ok, just to see if I'm not getting mind-fucked here.. Say I had: 2 of the RX 470 rigs.. looks to be around $2500, Power draw being around 1100 watts = This would be a proficient miner for ETH but not as good for other algo. VS 1 gtx 1070 at around $2000, Power draw around the same 1000 -1100 watts = Not as profitable for ETH but A proficient miner for all altcoins ^ Do I have that right? No. The 1070 hashes better on Ethereum and consomme less. Add to that you can mine at least 5 other coins that has a profitability near Ethereum's one. Initial problem about 1070 is its entering cost, but then, you're fine for a long time, while with 470, you're doomed when Ethereum switchs to PoS. |
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Is it worth mining with a low to mid-end GPU currently? I have a GTX 950 and I havn't found any good estimations on how much mining power this will provide. My power costs are pretty high here in the US, state of Michigan. (About 0.11/kwh) Would I be totally wasting my time/ money at this point? My CPU is pretty old, came out in 2009 and even though its overclocked to 3.2Ghz, its pretty outdated as far as everything else goes: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X3%20720%20Black%20Edition%20-%20HDZ720WFK3DGI%20(HDZ720WFGIBOX).htmlAMD Phenom II X3 720 (BE) I will check back on this topic, or feel free to PM me if you've mined with this card or processor. Thanks in advance for any tips/ info I can get related to this specific GPU or CPU for mining Monero. Cheers!!! Do not wait for someone to reply you, that card isn't much used in mining. Just start ccminer and start a benchmark. |
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nah that was a btc addy, here is an eth addy
0x43e5d15189208145c3093a91cb5625fe45f078fc
And for nvidia vs amd, yeah its true nvidia does better in other algos. BUT they are more expensive to buy, so ROI is further out, BUT eth will be POS eventually I guess, etc, etc. its volatile.
That's true that ROI is longer, but you'll always have something to mine and they do consume a lot (only about 15$ per month for a 1070). Plus, the resale value is much greater and it is also easier to resale it. If you wish to send me something, PM me, and we'll discuss. |
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