What's not to like about this service ?
Do the sharenode bagholders actually hold their private keys or is it a PNG kind of deal? This is fractional node ownership private keys only really applicable if you own a full node. If you did own enough you would convert to the applicable coin then run your own node so saving on the 1% admin fee. If you stayed with ionomy your then given the option of private key ownership depends what option you pick when you setup your node. If you read my last post you'll see it's not a PNG thing  Huh? If you don't own the private keys then it's a fucking PNG, AKA some numbers in a database and a pretty picture (optional). If the website goes down, or the team goes bankrupt, or absconds with the money, or the database gets lost or hacked, or any number of other things happen to the PNG - the bagholders can lose their coins. This is is exactly what a decentralized blockchain is supposed to prevent. It's truly amazing that 4 years after losing your bitcoins to a PNG scam you still can't grasp the difference. P11. Creating and infusing more assets in ionomy ecosystem does not add value in ION coin To my knowledge, IONSX is strictly an Ionomy LTD product and not available any place else. It is one of the Ionomy market pairs the community asked for more of it to be added to the Alchemy Exchange.... This service is provide by other crypto business run by ionomy community for many years. Again I ask, who is funding the creation of more illegal unregistered assets resources in the ionomy ecosystem  Is this asset a candidate for adding it to the ION Blockchain |
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What did I miss?
We are having a discussion about the ionomy project. The current point for discussion is IONsx being dumped into ionomy ecosystem: P11. Creating and infusing more assets in ionomy ecosystem does not add value in ION coin
Not happy with the direction why don't you sell up, take your profits and go somewhere else. If ionomy is a scam you would be crazy to stick around but yet you do why ?
I'm glad your so concerned with my ionomy investment. I've happy been using my POS 3.0 coin profits from the beginning of this year to expand into crypto adventures and provide nice ION gifts to family and friends to expand the ionomy Vision... How would it look if the Ambassador to ION packed up and left I'm waiting patiently for FREE airdrop to ionomy community!You being an Ambassador of Ion/Ionomy is a very very scary thought  On another note.. Last night I put 20k ionsx up for sale at 1 to 1 ION conversion rate. It sold in a few hours so this morning the 20k ion I had became a shiny new masternode..... Sub 20k my ionsx earned masternode daily rewards less the 1% admin fee helping me get to the 20k threshold.
I think the problem is your banned from discord so you don't see the feedback. The first 400k sold quickly prompting members of the community to ask for more ionsx, Ionomy responded with another 100k. This means ionomy now have 25 masternodes running in which the rewards are split proportionately to the amount of ionsx someone owns ...
I'm glad to see you trying to guess where my valid source of information is being drawn from and no i don't limited it to feedback from all my discord forums. If we do the math, 400K / 20K = 20 masternodes. Your Your source is unreliable! Give me a hint on how the community asked for more assets to be dumped into ecosystem? via email or vote from the ION Masternode owners or ionomy cult members Again, what testing metrics were used to support pumping more unregistered securities (ionsx assets) into the ecosystem Where is the funding for creating these new resources coming from?is this a relaunch of an Ionomy LTD product with larger amount of the available resource Wait, so the team is selling IONs and the "community" is asking for more IONs? Is that what's going on here?
You morons never learn, do you? NO, this looks like Ionomy LTD promoting their ionsx product to the ionomy cult members. Got to have a safe place to store your loose ION coin! This is the front runner to see what pairs by the community are added to the Alchemy Exchange.... |
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I think the problem is your banned from discord so you don't see the feedback. The first 400k sold quickly prompting members of the community to ask for more ionsx, Ionomy responded with another 100k. This means ionomy now have 25 masternodes running in which the rewards are split proportionately to the amount of ionsx someone owns ...
I'm glad to see you trying to guess where my valid source of information is being drawn from and no i don't limited it to feedback from all my discord forums. If we do the math, 400K / 20K = 20 masternodes. Your Your source is unreliable! Give me a hint on how the community asked for more assets to be dumped into ecosystem? via email or vote from the ION Masternode owners or ionomy cult members Again, what testing metrics were used to support pumping more unregistered securities (ionsx assets) into the ecosystem Where is the funding for creating these new resources coming from? is this a relaunch of an Ionomy LTD product with larger amount of the available resource Wait, so the team is selling IONs and the "community" is asking for more IONs? Is that what's going on here? You morons never learn, do you? NO, this looks like Ionomy LTD promoting their ionsx product to the ionomy cult members. Got to have a safe place to store your loose ION coin! This is the front runner to see what pairs by the community are added to the Alchemy Exchange.... |
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I think the problem is your banned from discord so you don't see the feedback. The first 400k sold quickly prompting members of the community to ask for more ionsx, Ionomy responded with another 100k. This means ionomy now have 25 masternodes running in which the rewards are split proportionately to the amount of ionsx someone owns ...
I'm glad to see you trying to guess where my valid source of information is being drawn from and no i don't limited it to feedback from all my discord forums. If we do the math, 400K / 20K = 20 masternodes. Your Your source is unreliable! Give me a hint on how the community asked for more assets to be dumped into ecosystem? via email or vote from the ION Masternode owners or ionomy cult members Again, what testing metrics were used to support pumping more unregistered securities (ionsx assets) into the ecosystem Where is the funding for creating these new resources coming from? is this a relaunch of an Ionomy LTD product with larger amount of the available resource Maybe an advertisement Ad? |
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ionomy adding 100K IONsx on 11/30
P11. Creating and infusing more assets in ionomy ecosystem does not add value in ION coin
Why not ? how does ionsx not add any value to the ionomy eco system what is ionsx ? how do you get ionsx ? did staking add value to the ionomy ecosystem ? Ionsx launched with 400k and sold out after a few weeks. Adding more is a response to customer demand. These are all good questions for ionomy and Bitcointalk technical chat form. Let's see if ionomy members can shead some light on this subject? i'm real interest in how the Team decided that the ionomy community needed/asked for a Hundred Thousand more assets in ecosystem When will it stop the pumping more assets into ionomy ecosystem Is this asset an unregistered securities Is asset on the ION blockchain |
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P5. The ION project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to proper documentation and testing. All I know is that OffRoad Heat is still being developed with lots more to follow. This to me looks like a brand building exercise as if it were a sales promotion you would not need to employ a marketing guru to figure out lots of better options than branding a car.
I would of hoped you answer with a form of testing metrics to use that showed the growth in ION. increase in user accounts or ION & ionomy investors Growth is always assured when there is lots more to follow... I'm an investor not an employee..... how would I have that kind of information ? The metrics I suggested could only come from Ionomy LTD management when they feel a need to release to public... right now we are only left with the price indicator which has been on the downside. on upside of ION, P2. ionomy is a leader in properly conducting digital asset businessI'd start this one off with comment that Ionomy Limited Support Staff is AWESOME. I've been doing business with them for 5 years and have provided the best customer service out of all my crypto projects. My hat is off to them for the outstanding service I received when defects are noted in my account or ION wallets. No matter how hard the problem was, the staff had a professional solution to it! |
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P5. The ION project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to proper documentation and testing. All I know is that OffRoad Heat is still being developed with lots more to follow. This to me looks like a brand building exercise as if it were a sales promotion you would not need to employ a marketing guru to figure out lots of better options than branding a car.
I would of hoped you answer with a form of testing metrics to use that showed the growth in ION. increase in user accounts or ION & ionomy investors Growth is always assured when there is lots more to follow... |
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P5. The ION project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to proper documentation and testing. I am interested in this being a professional exchange of information relating to the current status of the ION Blockchain and ionomy ecosystem for ionomy project. Please avoid your colorful comments about my character and try to keep focus on the item being discussed. I encouraged you to add items to list before discussion begins. The goal is to explain how the ionomy ecosystem really is at this point in time to the cyrpto community and new investors. ionomy cult members, ION DEVs and the The ION Core Team are encouraged to participate! His response is hilarious. Brand building? What nonsense. They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for a test? How is that meant to engender confidence in their decision making?
He’s making this up as he goes along. In the same hangout I referenced before, Matlack addresses the sponsorship deals and what he’s saying (‘we launch a racing game, we sponsor a racing car’) sounds suspiciously like sponsorship for promotion rather than brand building.
In Korvas’s head everything is a test if it flops, it seems. Gravity? That flopped, so it was a test (or ‘proof of concept’).
His projection of downloads for Rumble Arena is nonsense, too. He’s said the same thing about Gravity. The truth is that it’s a fun game, but if you’re being realistic, it’s probably not going to be a smash hit. It’s probably not going to have thousands of active users. That’s an unrealistic aim to expect of an indie dev making their first full time product.
Besides, the brand building/promotion is arguing semantics anyway. Even if we accept that this was brand building, how had it grown the brand? I’ve hardly seen an explosion in growth since they took on the sponsorships. The acquisition cost per user for those campaigns must be in the tens of thousands of dollars as a result. Ludicrous.
It is very professional to use sources outside both our opinions to add substance to the discussion(thinking out of the box).. You are welcome to use all the professional help the ionomy chat room offers... How has the project grown using this branding? |
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I don't try to claim these are my words. This was info sent to me on this discussion point. I agree with the content!
So who said that? I use knowledge obtained from Wild's Depot R & D members. You are welcome to join depot and add more value to this discussion point... P5. The ION project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to proper documentation and testing. |
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His response is hilarious. Brand building? What nonsense. They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for a test? How is that meant to engender confidence in their decision making?
He’s making this up as he goes along. In the same hangout I referenced before, Matlack addresses the sponsorship deals and what he’s saying (‘we launch a racing game, we sponsor a racing car’) sounds suspiciously like sponsorship for promotion rather than brand building.
In Korvas’s head everything is a test if it flops, it seems. Gravity? That flopped, so it was a test (or ‘proof of concept’).
His projection of downloads for Rumble Arena is nonsense, too. He’s said the same thing about Gravity. The truth is that it’s a fun game, but if you’re being realistic, it’s probably not going to be a smash hit. It’s probably not going to have thousands of active users. That’s an unrealistic aim to expect of an indie dev making their first full time product.
Besides, the brand building/promotion is arguing semantics anyway. Even if we accept that this was brand building, how had it grown the brand? I’ve hardly seen an explosion in growth since they took on the sponsorships. The acquisition cost per user for those campaigns must be in the tens of thousands of dollars as a result. Ludicrous.
WildShark, you didn't write that, did you? It's not cool to post someone else's words and pretend they're yours. I don't try to claim these are my words. This was info sent to me on this discussion point. I agree with the content! |
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His response is hilarious. Brand building? What nonsense. They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for a test? How is that meant to engender confidence in their decision making?
He’s making this up as he goes along. In the same hangout I referenced before, Matlack addresses the sponsorship deals and what he’s saying (‘we launch a racing game, we sponsor a racing car’) sounds suspiciously like sponsorship for promotion rather than brand building.
In Korvas’s head everything is a test if it flops, it seems. Gravity? That flopped, so it was a test (or ‘proof of concept’).
His projection of downloads for Rumble Arena is nonsense, too. He’s said the same thing about Gravity. The truth is that it’s a fun game, but if you’re being realistic, it’s probably not going to be a smash hit. It’s probably not going to have thousands of active users. That’s an unrealistic aim to expect of an indie dev making their first full time product.
Besides, the brand building/promotion is arguing semantics anyway. Even if we accept that this was brand building, how had it grown the brand? I’ve hardly seen an explosion in growth since they took on the sponsorships. The acquisition cost per user for those campaigns must be in the tens of thousands of dollars as a result. Ludicrous.
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P5. The ION project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to proper documentation and testing.
I also take issue with the idea that they’ve so far focused on development and implementation and not promotion. They’ve been sponsoring motor races, which Matlack himself claimed cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (August hangout, about 37 mins in). That’s pretty big promotion, surely? If you’re not looking to promote the product yet - if that’s the game plan like Korvas is suggesting - why spend so much on it? Clearly they’re trying to promote the product, but it feels like so far that’s not been particularly successful.
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ION Blockchain Vulnerability - 4 yr. Coin Milestone - please send the Dark Matter bounty to Wild's Depot.
In less than 90 days, if a new ION wallet is not implemented then the current wallet will reduce the block rewards to 2.875 coins
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I just don’t understand Korvas. Rumble Arena might eventually have a couple of hundred players at the absolute most, but it’s still a very limited audience - and even then, you’re banking on them wanting to get into Ion as a result of playing the game, which likely only a small proportion of them will. The release of the game that is out now doesn’t appear to use Ion or Ionomy services at all, so all of the players who are using it are currently using it without any exposure at all to Ionomy. In addition - they might have 1000+ downloads, but when I checked a minute ago, there was only a handful online and no multiplayer lobbies open. So again, I wonder how many actual, active players it’ll end up with.
This is not to shit on the effort the devs have put into that game, by the way - it’s an ok game when you see it for what it is, which is the result of a pair of devs who have only just gone full time into game production. It’s highly unlikely to be a viral hit, but I’m sure the guys at Rekall Games are ok with that.
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Yawn why do you keep trying to trip me up or trying to insult me Not my business plan I'm just an investor. The proposed and approved change to the year 5 reward schedule is 1.85 to 5.75 https://github.com/ionomy/iips/blob/master/ION_IIP.pdf You know this already as the proposals were first published on the 1st of June. I remember you were unhappy then about the fact that only self hosted masternode owners were able to vote. This then begs the question why do you ask me when you already know the answer The whitepaper will probably be updated nearer to when the changes happen Your doing an excellent job of tripping yourself up. You are now contradicting yourself from last week when none of the ION Core Team's IIPs were being implemented in next wallet and the ION White Paper didn't need updating cause there is was no changes The goal of this discussion is to explain how the ionomy ecosystem really is at this point in time to the cyrpto community and new investors. This includes when will all the approved IIPs be implemented? |
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Yawn why do you keep trying to trip me up or trying to insult me is that your motivation for discussion. I'm not giving anything away I'm just sharing my opinion. Gaming is the technology enabler not business...... Always believed this and always will it's what attracted me to ionomy Short term gain at the expense of everyone else that's you,,, dog eat dog right ?  Wanna carry on with the cheap shots or would you like to move on to the next question. I think you better re-read my response to point P1.I don't see any cheap shots and I 'm amazed that you within one response you have degraded the discussion to a personnel complaint about me. Please focus on the information presented and don't look at the information being personnel to you... cause it's not... Please add substance to the discussion! If you don't know the answer, assist the knowledge in the ionomy technical chat rooms to assist you. "I was unaware of the release of "first 3rd party game". Glad to see forward progress in the ionomy Vision on the gaming side for the coin. This hoax that you have to keep up about revealing information about the secret ionomy plans is rubbish. Your not very good about keeping that secret if you read your last paragraph giving the game plan away Huh The project is undervalued because no one knows when the Team will poop out an ionomy product and what that product will functionally contain with the hope that the product is "acceptable" to the ION and ionomy communities. Confess up to there is no establish secret plan and let's move forward by releasing some substance to the public. The plan is a year behind in being executed because of lack of resources to tackle an changing development schedule. You might find that reveling information about your business plan would actually bring in more ION investors to the game! Your hope of a title game being produced by this team in the next ten years is slim to none.
In 3 months, the value of the ION coin will drop with the Block Reward being reduced. Could you please point me to the ION White Paper that describes the Block Reward schedule for year 5 of the ION Blockchain?. Wouldn't it be nice if the ION investors knew what the Block Reward Schedule is or is this ionomy secret plan information |
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But I also understand the secrecy ion/ionomy have in revealing too much information about their plans as some big competitors have now woken up to the fact gaming represents a big opportunity. Something ION/IONOMY saw and have been working on for almost 3 years.
Moving forwards I believe this under value is going to change as the couple of games already available continue to evolve so attracting more gamers. (checkout the latest version of OffRoad Heat). More games will launch, Gravity being the next inhouse game with more to follow. Also Rumble Arena: Super Smash Legends the first 3rd party game has just been released. It's been out a week now and has already seen 1000+ downloads on Google play. All it takes is 1 or 2 titles to gain some traction and ion/ionomy win big from market exposure, margin & revenue perspectives which will add more value to ION.
I was unaware of the release of "first 3rd party game". Glad to see forward progress in the ionomy Vision on the gaming side for the coin. This hoax that you have to keep up about revealing information about the secret ionomy plans is rubbish. Your not very good about keeping that secret if you read your last paragraph giving the game plan away The project is undervalued because no one knows when the Team will poop out an ionomy product and what that product will functionally contain with the hope that the product is "acceptable" to the ION and ionomy communities. Confess up to there is no establish secret plan and let's move forward by releasing some substance to the public. The plan is a year behind in being executed because of lack of resources to tackle an changing development schedule. You might find that reveling information about your business plan would actually bring in more ION investors to the game! Your hope of a title game being produced by this team in the next ten years is slim to none. In 3 months, the value of the ION coin will drop with the Block Reward being reduced. Could you please point me to the ION White Paper that describes the Block Reward schedule for year 5 of the ION Blockchain? |
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P1. ION coin is under-valued with current investors
I would disagree on this point. The current value of ION coin is representative by a current price on Bittrex exchange and the Ionomy LTD market. Over the last 4 years, the price has changed with the market value investors where making at that time. The price is still a good indicator of ION value and currently the value is decreasing with value below the 50 cents mark. Until more substance is brought forth into the ionomy Vision, the value will continue to fall.
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At what stage is the project now? can anybody tell me, thanks,
The new ionomy platform has been launched. 2 in house games released. First 3rd party developer game just launched on google play, IOS not far behind. New HTML5 wallet soon to be open beta, XDM roll-out plan, sharenodes, etc... lots going on. This project is 3 years old now. 3 years worth for development now starting to come to fruition. If your an early bird investor this is a nice place to be as the coin is still heavily undervalued when you consider there is actually a business plan behind ion as opposed to it 3 years ago being just a good idea This project is one year behind in implementing their business plan. They now lack the funding to cover final development of their decaying plan and catch up to the current level in the crypto market. Only with the infusion of additional assets (Dark Matter and "Worthless" Tokens). This will bring new hope to the ionomy project. Which point would you like to discuss first There are many critical pieces to a successful project than rapid deployment of coding without proper design, testing and documentation. Please provide your list of ionomy project points for discussion before the discussion begins.. Hint: provide some positive points for the mobile game development side of the ionomy vision P1. ION coin is under-valued with current investors
P2. ionomy is a leader in properly conducting digital asset businessP3. implementation of Ionomy V3 business plan is a year behind the crypto market
P4. Ionomy is 60% there in terms of offering the market beyond crypto a compelling option
P5. The ION project funds has been spent on development and sponsorship deals with disregard to proper documentation and testing.
P6. Created Bounty program to alleviate vulnerabilities in the V3 platform and add extra level of system testing
P7. Decaying plan that is being designed from a bottom-up implementation (very costly option)
P8. Avoid bloating healthy ION Blockchain with "worthless" tokens for lifetime of chain
P9. Only ION Masternode owners can vote on IIPs in ionomy ecosystem
P10. Lack of established Milestones to achieve in project
P11.Creating and infusing more assets in ionomy ecosystem does not add value in ION coinThe goal is to explain how the ionomy ecosystem really is at this point in time to the cyrpto community and new investors.
if you have no points to add, let's start with number P1... please discuss why you think the ION coin is "still heavily undervalued" |
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