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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ❤️🚀CREATOR.AI 🚀❤️ - THE WORLDS FIRST CONTENT CREATION PROTOCOL on: April 06, 2018, 06:15:47 AM

1 month this thread without visitors, is this thread still active? when does the ICO begin, and when does it end?
322  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 06, 2018, 04:47:32 AM
Bank deposits are risk-free investments, but interest is low because Banks make money on your money!

Most people used to like investing in stocks.

Many people now invest in digital encryption because the new financial market has more profit!
Im in crypto now, buy some old coins, such as btc, maid, xrp, str, and others, I still set aside some money for bank deposits. I think the safest. so I still have to have a backup.

have you ever thought to try to invest everything on ICO? I think it is much more promising. Perhaps many people have doubts with this because the risk of the scam is very high, but the results are great.

You play with a price in a market where there is a decision type if it sells or maintains a price base.
The best way to manage free money is a bank deposit that will be either a king of savings where you can use in an emergency. In addition, such a property, where the value is very high in the future, after that investment
this is too risky, I will never enter as an ICO investor, let me remain an ICO bounty participant. and buy the ICO tokens when the bounty distribution runs, where many bounty participants want money quickly, and make the token price fall into the abyss.
323  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 05, 2018, 02:31:44 PM
First of all WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY INVESTING?since you mentioned that trading doesnt work in this case..for me investing mean long term that since it was a FREE MONEY i guess you can put it without needing for a couple of years and if its indeed then i should advice to put that all in bitcoin because this one coin can grow upto more than 10x for that span of years

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First of all WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY INVESTING?since you mentioned that trading doesnt work in this case..
investing means  you buy something and hold it for a certain time until you reach your desired target price and after that , you can now then sell your coins for a better profit. trading will also work here because trading and investing are still the same , you still risk your money ( whether it is a free money or your own personal money )

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i guess you can put it without needing for a couple of years and if its indeed then i should advice to put that all in bitcoin because this one coin can grow upto more than 10x for that span of years

putting your egss in one basket is not advicable because you cant earn as much as you can if your only foccusing on one single coin. therfor much better if you can spread your funds thru a different types of coins that your confident to bring you profits.

I want to expand my money to grow, not necessarily in extraordinary amounts, little, but surely, if necessary to get passive income, and the value of its assets increase from year to year. since I created this thread, and read various opinions, I have started buying krypto assets, including bitcoin.
324  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 05, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
keep it safe at the bank, use it properly when needed  or either invest it in a right time you will regret if you take spend all your money in the market  better to coop up with the business or invest but for me the age i will earn it even i am 19 year old boy i know the limits of having a money
Saving of the money while having any kind of job or any other business is a very good thing to do and that it will help you in having a better living as well as you will be able to use that money at time when you’ll be needing it. The best way of using that money is through investing of that free into any kind of business which you think can work in the best possible manner and can bring more money.
both of you very wise, thanks for taking the time to share opinions in my thread. after reading a lot of friends comments here, I have done 2 steps, first, I set aside for deposits in the bank, with interest rate of 5.8% per month. this I consider the safest. secondly, i bought some crypto, then i turned it on market lending.

Bank deposits are the most failed way. We all know that inflation in these years is too high. The existence of property in banks will make your wealth lose. It is recommended that you diversify your investment so that you can avoid risks most. Now the price of bitcoin is not very high. Investment encryption is a good way to increase wealth.
I have calculated the annual inflation that may occur in my country, and still below the monthly deposit interest I received, that is 5.8% per month. that's why I keep doing this, but not all, only $ 10,000 out of a total of $ 50,000. and already invested into crypto by buying some coins, then I play in market lending. in the hope that my crypto assets will increase, and later its value will also rise.
325  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 04, 2018, 11:03:10 AM
5. Property
These investments will never get old, they are one of the best.
I think we should also be able to adjust to the existing models in each country. what great potential we can do to make a lot of profit. property is not an old thing but still remains promising
I agree, and it seems that in most countries, property is an investment that has great value, I will do this gradually.


Mining is good but you need a huge capital in order to start operating your mining machine. For me I will prefer to hold it in my wallet and wait for the right time to sell but if I have much money for capital I will prefer mining because it gives huge profit.
you have answered yourself, and mining also I have removed from the wish list. feeling it's too late to be a miner now, it would be different if I started it a few years ago, but at that time I also did not have free money to invest.
326  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 04, 2018, 07:08:56 AM
1. bank deposits
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Low return but your money is safe in the bank.
done... $10.000

2. Lending cryptocurrency
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This is risky but profitable. Make sure that you will lend those people that are trustworthy.
OTW.... poloniex lending market

 
and yobit InvestBox for daily  investment



3. Mining
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GPU mining is profitable but don't invest in cloud mining.
skip and ignore, cloud=never, I was a victim of hashocean,

4. Gold assets
delay it, I was thinking, what if the lending results I buy gold. what if you think?

5. Property
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These investments will never get old, they are one of the best.
OTW

6. other ideas
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How about oil?
honestly I really want it for a long time, but we're talking $ 20,000. total idle money from bounty amounted to $ 50,000.
$ 10,000 bank deposits
$ 20,000 bought coins and I lending
so the remaining $ 20,000, how could possible to the oil business.
327  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 04, 2018, 06:37:22 AM


Here are my suggestions:
1. Bank deposits - a bit slow in terms of garnering interest, but I will still suggest this.
2. Lending Cryptos - as long as you're sure you can trust whoever you'll lend it to, you can give this a go. Moreover, please be wary that since you're dealing with crypto's, practically anyone can run away with it since there's no regulation or legal body protecting it (IMHO).
3. Mining - if you can shell out the dough, you can probably go for this. Just think about the major increase in your utility bill.
4. Property - One of the best ideas, just make sure you're checking out prime lots or probably areas where the potential to sell is high.
5. Other Ideas - probably start your own business.

I intentionally left out Gold Assets as I'm not that familiar with how it works. Hope these help you out.
1. slow in terms of garnering interest, but I will still suggest this. I agree, and I've done it, and I get passive income 5.8%, the most powerful reason for me is; this is the safest, and I can use at any time.
2. practically anyone can run away with it since there's no regulation or legal body protecting it (IMHO) this one I also really agree, I have started, for the first time I do it in poloniex market, I am currently studying the daily investment in yobit. I will be careful, and do not let too long play lending, and profit will be taken directly.
3. Mining I passed, it took too much cost, proportional to the result, but still have to think about operational and maintenance.
4. Property - in the process of learning, thanks.
5. Other Ideas - probably start your own business. I am interested in the franchise system... but I will first focus on the property as a long-term investment.
328  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 04, 2018, 06:11:11 AM

You cam also research properly on these besides my advice. Now,
1.Bank deposit: Your money will be protected from theft and fires. Plus, your money will be federally insured so if your bank closes, you will get your money back. However, you can only get little % of interest for whole month

2.Lendimg Cryptocurrency: First of all, be assured that you can’t lose your money as coins lent out can’t be withdrawn from the platform. They are used as margins for traders, and different platforms have their ways of protecting money loaned from being lost to the market. Agian,
Returns on investment are high as you can get up to 10% or more

3.Mining : This form of investment is highly capital intensive

4.Gold assets.: Gold has shown positive results even during the economic downturn and market volatility. It serves as the best hedge against inflation. Gold has seen strong asset appreciation in long-term and emerged as must have in one’s investment portfolio.

5 Property : As the property market is more stable than the other markets, investment property generates fixed returns to the investors.

6.Others includes, investment on ICOs - A token has a price immediately upon its sale, and that price floats freely in a global 24/7 market.
Finally,  i have mostly considered the advantages of this list, you have to carry out additional research to get the best options.

I think your writing is much better. I like the way you organize words. i do for 1 and 2, and will for 5, skip 3 and 4. thank you for your opinion
329  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 04, 2018, 05:20:47 AM

All of your option above is a good investment. Research all six option of your investment and look for immediate return and big profit. That is how business man thinks before investing.

For me, I prefer to invest  gold and property.  Gold prices increases every year and property's worth also increases every year.

I've ignored the two, and divided the capital into 3 parts,
$ 10,000 bank deposit
$ 20,000 Crypto, including bitcoin, then I play it in the lending market.
$ 20,000 I have not used, in the plan to invest in property, but it seems the number is still less.
the property market in my country (Indonesia) is still very big, I can see the opportunity, now I have to learn many things, so as not to get stuck with the problem of dispute and law, I am not a businessman, my money is not much, I just want to invest safely for the long term.

I think the best way when it comes to Crypto is to hold it, because you never know what it will become.
The best way to manage your free money is to invest it in cryptocurrency to double your money and get a bigger profit.

I agree, but it's entirely speculative, with a limited amount of money, I do not want to gamble with circumstances that I do not know the end result. but yes, I did it, but not all in. I've bought some crypto coins, and play in the lending market.

I will choose the property as my investment,  because at this time in my country just aggressively build housing with cheap price. For the next years, the number of people will be more and .....

I like that, changing with the time attitude. I mean one should always recognise the opportunities that are around us so that we can benefit to 100%. Now in your case property is far important than putting your money into bitcoin because there might be no future for the bitcoin in your country or may be not most of the people knowing about it......

I agree with this. this opinion may not be some people think. sometimes we should be able to see opportunities around. but we must be able to sort and manage how much we have to spend. essentially do not let our money, while still we are empowered to use.
If you want to have a better future and that you are interested in having a better living not only for your own self but also for your family, then you really need to take very good care of all the free money which you somehow save. You need to use that money in a proper way and that you need to invest that money at the right place so that you can then get a hope of making something more out of that money.
It is a bit better if you will keep it on a savings account and that will give you assurance that you will not lose your money and after you saved or putted it into a safe place then study first the basics about financial literacy so you will have a basis on what you gonna do with your free money. Even it is free money, you still need to be conservative to that to avoid regrets.
after reading many suggestions on this thread, and listening to some suggestions from my friends, I choose to play it safe. some I play in the market, focus on lending, some I deposit in the bank (not regular savings), and I get a net profit of 5% per month. some still keep me for anything else, my plans to the property,
330  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 03, 2018, 07:42:40 AM
The best answer depends on what your investment goals are.  Do you plan on needing the money soon or is this a long term investment?  If you already have money in savings, there's no point in putting more in since the return is basically zero.  

If you do not wish to invest in crypto the other options are out since they are all plays on the crypto market.  

Property is good but you need to distinguish between single family, multi-family, etc.  Multi-family investments (i.e. Apartments) are great because they allow you to make income as well as have your tenants pay off mortgage.  The investment amounts needed are larger than other investments and typically require you to get a loan for the remainder.  

You can also see about becoming a 'private lender' in this space as well.  This will allow you to partner with a local investor needing funds which will allow you to leverage their experience and connections.  

Typically, the return is 8-10% but you can specify what return you are willing to accept.  As with all investments, you need to research the property and investor to see if you feel comfortable with making the investment.  

this free money, out of money savings and daily necessities, I will automatically invest for the long term, but not the whole, total budget $ 50,000, 1/3 I have a deposit in the bank, this is for backup if at any time I need money , for example me or sick family, accident or other sudden things. 1/3 other part I invested in crypto, and crypto assets I have input into lending market. the last, I still do not use, still consider buying property. thanks for your advice, this is a good suggestion, I will learn first.
331  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 01, 2018, 01:52:55 PM
I just suggest, don't put your money in the bank. You waste your money there and there are some fees unlike if you buy altcoins, your money will still be profitable in the future.
but we still have to do that, because every day we need for transactions various life needs. and I think the deposit interest in our country of 5.8% per month is very large, without having to do anything. we both know that crypto in our country is still illegal to use as a means of payment.

You should invest in cryptocurrencies. It will be profitable. Nowadays Bitcoin's price is low. And it is the best time to invest here and get enough profit from it in future.
I've bought a bit, 1 btc and some legend crypto, and now I trade in lending market. I still expect BTC to drop below $ 5000, so I can buy more for long-term investment.
332  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 01, 2018, 01:36:43 PM
Face the future and determine what makes you comfortable. Its all about decision making ,for me I would like to save in the bank then plan to build a house. It's hard to notice our tomorrow so better to save and involve on bitcoin because I know bitcoin can help me provide my needs and support my expenses daily.
few days ago I was hesitant to make a choice. that's why I made this thread, now I've decided 2 things, deposit in the bank and buy some crypto assets.
for property, now i am studying about legality, indonesian property market, searching for the right location, and the cost is affordable with my money.
I do not want to buy property wrongly, and have problems with legal and ownership disputes. your suggestion is very reasonable, I am not a speculator, I have to play safe, thanks.

Investing in crypto is your best choice since the current market situation is favorable to investors feel free to buy cheap but good coins. You can surely earn decent money once the market starts recovering.

Market price on crypto right now mostly down and its opportunity to collect some coin/token with good project. Investing on crypto for long term, I think that good option beside property or deposit our money on bank

The best answer to this is depends on every situation. We all know people are different,  have different wants and different problems, so the best way to manage free money depends to us, you may buy it a house and lot, car or save it in a bank.
you are absolutely right. That's why I made this topic, to get a lot of information and read the right situation before making a decision. For example, some comments provide information about current crypto market conditions, then I dig deeper about this situation, then compare the data over the years, until finally I dare to decide to set aside some of these funds to buy crypto assets, then I put my crypto assets into the lending market. automatically my assets will increase by itself. I can sell profits at any price, without fear of loss. but my assets are not reduced.
I find it very helpful to share information like now, we get lots of information from many friends, including you, and thank you.

333  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 01, 2018, 01:10:23 PM
Investement is good for manage free money or we can join bounty campaign, and we also can put money in the bank so we cant spend money for nothing.
But is all deppend of you. Which for you is best way.
I made this topic because I have free funding from following the bounty of ICO some startup, thanks bro.

Well aside those things the best way for me in managing free money that i earned from bounty campaign is cash-outing and investing into real property onwer like bourding houses appartels and motels which be rented to any investors who wants to put up businesses any cities and provinces which we call it a passive income.
I agree with that, and this topic is part of the process to make your point. thank you, your comments I consider as support for my wishes.

In my opinion if you're going to invest your money through:

1. Bank Deposits - your money will pay lower rates over time, but the good thing is when you need to withdraw it for emergency purposes, it will always be available and it offers high security.
2. Lending cryptocurrency - for me, this is also safe and secure however, very risky because of the volatility of the coins.
5. Property - This is the best form  of investment for me since real estate value increases in time. I haven't heard house and lot depreciate in value regardless if the economy is bad or not. You won't regret in real estate investment cause it will pay you high rate of return.
Thanks, I passed gold and mining, I chose the numbers 1, 2 and 5.
334  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 01, 2018, 12:17:00 PM
Many investment we can pick sir, but I never put my money on deposit bank because my money will eat by inflation. Crypto, obligation, stocks, gold and property is good option to investing our money
I've learned that, everyday I still use the bank to transact, the benefits that I get from my direct investment store in the bank. for the case of this thread, I play safe, set aside 1/3 free funds for deposits, I use this fund for backup if there is a sudden need, and the largest deposit interest in one bank in my country (Indonesia) is 5.8% / month, while the normal monthly inflation rate in my country based on "Consumer Price Index" ranges from 0.5% -2%.
we never know when we / sons / wives get sick, have an accident, and many other misfortunes we can not guess, I have health insurance, but that is not enough to meet those needs, because when we get hit, cost is not small. or maybe we want to visit distant family places, or maybe our parents are sick, including if I want to vacation with family. trveling to various places. I can not imagine, when under these conditions, the crypto price is bleeding, for those reasons I must have a reserve fund.
and a few days ago, I had allocated another 1/3 to invest in crypto, BTC, ETH, MAID, STR, XRP, IGNIS. Some of these cryptoes I currently invest in market lending, in Poloniex.
Last 1/3 is still not used, plans will be allocated for property, but apparently still not enough to buy Nice property, so I have to be a little patient and try to be more serious. and thanks for your suggestion.


of the options you give seem to be very profitable and give you free coin is from mining, with mining you can get a coin that is very much and much better when you can create your own power to help alleviate the cost of electricity needed when mining.
with consideration :
- Need a special place so as not to disturb around.
- Power consumption is not small and the price is not cheap.
- average crypto prices are already high, especially BTC.
- Currently the price of mining equipment is expensive. as well as VGA.
- Supporting equipment also costs a lot (cooler, fan, power grid, CPU, PSU, etc) and much more, including maintenance.
I do not dare to be a miner, different story if I start to mine a few years ago, for example 2014-2015. but I am still grateful for your suggestion.
335  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 01, 2018, 07:48:48 AM
I will inverse in different order .The order of investment is
1.Investing in crypto currency
2.Trading bitcoin
3.Mining
4.Property
5.Gold asset

I will choose the bitcoin first and altcoin will be the next option for the investment.
good... sounds very convincing. Thanks for your comment, I do not dare spend all the funds to be invested into BTC. I feel the BTC price is too high, and BTC has a limited supply. but yes, I've bought a bit of bitcoin, because there's still a belief that prices will go up, for now I still expect BTC to drop below $ 5000, in order to add stock to investment. can you give an opinion, why do you choose BTC as the main choice in investing?

Investing in crypto is your best choice since the current market situation is favorable to investors feel free to buy cheap but good coins. You can surely earn decent money once the market starts recovering.
I agree with you, that crypto is a good investment tool, especially for people who dare to speculate, but I have not braved them, I choose to play safe, although it is free fund, yes, I did invest some, but only 1/3 of the funds I have, 1/3 again I have a deposit to the bank, I do this as a backup if krypto market is crash, I do not know what will happen 1-10 years ahead.
are you sure that the current crypto price is the cheapest?

336  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: April 01, 2018, 07:31:49 AM
I am very happy today, seeing my post thread getting a good response, and I apologize for all who have replied to my post because I am unable to reply to all comments.
two days ago i tried to go into lending, i thought the price of crypto was already at the bottom. I was wrong, today all crypto is bloody. I bought some old krypto, like doge, eth, str, maid and there is a new coin that is ignis. then I go into market lending in poloniex

mathematically the number of my points increases, but by value, my assets are down 15%. I realize that this is not an instant game, honestly had a chance to panic, but I will survive until the next few months, or until the price improves. this is my first lesson in lending.
How you do this, is very interesting.
in fact I do not understand how you benefit.
if I wish to contact you, can you give me a telegram that can be contacted! Wink
this is the lending menu at poloniex.com, if you already have an account at poloniex.com, try to enter the lending menu, you will see all existing lending offerings. there are available 12 coins that can be transacted: BTC, BTS, CLAM, DOGE, DASH, LTC, MAID, STR, XMR, XRP, ETH, FCT.
337  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: March 30, 2018, 06:54:51 AM
I am very happy today, seeing my post thread getting a good response, and I apologize for all who have replied to my post because I am unable to reply to all comments.
two days ago i tried to go into lending, i thought the price of crypto was already at the bottom. I was wrong, today all crypto is bloody. I bought some old krypto, like doge, eth, str, maid and there is a new coin that is ignis. then I go into market lending in poloniex


mathematically the number of my points increases, but by value, my assets are down 15%. I realize that this is not an instant game, honestly had a chance to panic, but I will survive until the next few months, or until the price improves. this is my first lesson in lending.
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH next to BTC? on: March 30, 2018, 06:21:53 AM
I still remember the early crowfunding of this coin, they successfully raised funds worth US $ 18 million, In 2014 Etherium launched pre-sale and gained extensive response. The distribution of Etherium at pre-sale was 60 million Ether for the contributors. 12 million is used for development mostly used by the Etherium Foundation. 5 Ether is created every 15 - 17 seconds for the miners. 2-3 Ether is given to miners who can solve the solution of the puzzle on the mining. Etherium was officially launched on July 30, 2015.
Currently, the value of all Ether in the world has reached US $ 905 million, At the time of pre-sale there is an agreement that every year will be generated 18 million Ether every year. However, in 2017 there will be more deals based on the growing application and use of Ether. There will be a consensus called Casper. However, such agreements will occur under a decentralized Smart Contract that no party controls or dominates. All based on the health and safety of the network.
With this condition, I believe that Ethereum will be stronger, because its supply is always growing, unlike Bitcoin which only has 21jt BTC
339  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: March 28, 2018, 03:39:11 AM


As you have said its a FREE MONEY so i guess you must not give lots of concerns about such,so why not buy BTC and just let it in your waller for years.forget it for a while until the time you want to wothdraw it all.and i guess by that time it would be mor bigger.

Check this drop out story how he become a millionaire

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/20/bitcoin-millionaire-erik-finman-says-going-to-college-isnt-worth-it.html  There it is
I understand that I do not have to worry, but I'm not as good as him, I'll invest some, and I have to keep others safe. I am afraid of the bitcoin price movement, I feel the BTC price is too high, I will try on another coin. for bitcoin, I really want to have it, I'll try to get it another way, maybe by selling some of my token assets if it's already released in the market. Erik Finman may be very lucky, but luck does not come to everybody. we have the same belief in the future of crypto, but we both know that no one can ascertain what the future of crypto will be like. I will take every opportunity that is profitable, but I will not surrender my life to "mr.lucky".
340  Economy / Economics / Re: The best way to manage free money on: March 28, 2018, 03:19:03 AM
Genuinely speaking if you have got free money then just use it to create a good portfolio of altcoins. As you have hit the market at right time, and the right time means all the crypto currency is in red bloodbath. This usually is the opportunity for small investors like you and me to buy most of the wanted coins and that too in large quantities and thus trade them later on when the value for them grows. What red bloodbath means? It means that almost every other crypto currency in the market is down in the value over normal value and thus it makes sure that it will come back to normal once the market is reversed. So you see its working model and people are making money out of it.

Moreover, it will be always great to put some extra money into bitcoin at this point and choose 3-5 alts to invest in. After one year I am definitely sure that you wont regret the whole situation.
this is not the money I get for free, although it's easy, but I work hard to participate in the success of ICO some startup. and it is true that what I am talking about is free money. I will allocate a portion, approximately 1/3, to investing in altcoin, while learning about investing, I am monitoring the movement of some coins, ETH, XRP, MAID and STR. I have not dared to buy BTC, the price is already high.
thanks for the advice, it is very helpful, if there is information about prospective altcoin to be held in a few months, I will be very thankful.



All of them are good but it is just up to you on how to handle yourself dealing with any of the listed above. For me, I would prefer to convert it to property like land, or condominium or apartment or any real property in which you can gain a profit.
I really agree with you, I am studying it, digging up information about the legality and price in my country. Thank you for the advice.



all of it were good but i will ruled out mining because this is not good idea that mining so expensive currently and i highly doubt you will earn profit from it however besides those things above i think including invest at land or property also good because property price always be increase for every year so i think investing at property is good for long term
I have removed the mining and gold from the list. I focus on studying bank deposits, lending crypto, and properties. many things I need to learn, much information I need to decide. I have also decided to allocate 1/3 of funds to buy some good crypto, I am currently monitoring ETH, MAID, STR, XRP to get the right moment. thanks for helping to advise.




With bank deposit, the ROI is minimal but is least risky.
Mining is profitable if you have the apt resources and skills.
Gold assets can be a good option as the risk involved is less. In last 15 years gold has given return of 315%.
Property investment depends upon country to country.

Now, comes cryptocurrencies. Last year, Bitcoin has given return of 1800% and Ethereum has given the return of 10000%. Cryptocurrency trading is indeed risky. But a long term investment reduces the risk. The Q1 is the best time to go long on cryptocurrency and Q4 is the best time to short profit. You can invest in large cap coins at the moment and can withdraw tour money by year end.
Bank deposits in my country give 5.8% per month. This is very safe, so I will still allocate some to make deposits in the bank. at least 1/3 of the funds I have. 1/3 again I've decided to buy some crypto / altcoins, I'm monitoring to get the right moment to buy.
mining requires substantial funds to purchase equipment, pay for electricity, places and maintenance. and it seems to require extra work. if you force yourself to join cloud mining, this is very risky, we never know the ability of the company and there is no guarantee of capital security.
I am not able to do daily trading, including scalping, I choose to be a bag holder, I plan to buy ETH, XRP, STR, Maid and some old coins. Thank you for your advice.
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