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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: January 03, 2014, 01:21:14 AM
while your criminal law analysis is worth considering, there is more.  If he were successful and managed to exploit a Mastercoin weakness at this early stage - he could have easily cause the value of Msc to plummet thus causing everyone serious loss of value.  far more than the $40K he is being penalized today.

Or, depending on how you look at it, he is a hero who warns people of the Mastercoin's weakness and prevents much bigger losses.

Killerstorm, I always appreciate your views on Mastercoin (specific critique only helps us improve - and we do take it onboard for example we're now enabling features at specific block numbers) but in this case I think it's only fair to point out this really was not a weakness in Mastercoin, it was a bug in one specific software implementation of it.  

Just as a bug in Armory is not a weakness in Bitcoin, I don't think it's fair to label this case as a weakness in Mastercoin.

For the community as a whole, I would recommend against relying on a single site at this early stage.  There are four completely independent implementations and if any disagree (as they did in this case) then you should seek clarification from the dev community and file appropriate bug reports (we're looking into making this easier).  We are of course all working hard to make sure there are no differences, but bugs do occur so be sure to check your transactions on multiple implementations.

You can also check your address here https://masterchest.info/consensus.aspx.  Select 'Show listing of ALL addresses' and do a find-on-page for your address.  You can see your address balance from all four implementations here and whether there is consensus across all implementations.  This is a tool we are using to collaboratively identify and eliminate any differences in interpretation between the various implementations (our next dev con call is upcoming to work on the last few edge cases).

Zathras is a fucking genius.  KillerShitStorm is a asshole who tries so hard to discredit Mastercoin at every turn.  

Zathras is correct.  Mastercoin is fine.  sometimes one of the four implimentations has a different conclustion than others.  This is actually what makes Mastercoin very strong.  different interpretations of the protocol are encoded into rules and final clarification is reached where any ambiguity is discovered.  Zathras is right in the middle of this process.  KillerShitStorm is totally, wickedly conflicted as he wishes so much that Colored Coins could get the attention that Mastercoins got.  Colored Coins is a shit dead project. So Killershitstorm comes here at every opportunity to throw shit around.  

Some dumb fuck named 'Inbox' tried a fast one to gain profits for himself.  But MastercoinXchange and Zathras and othes worked together to fix the discrepancy and get to a very much stronger mastercoin.  Inbox is a fucking cheat and paid for it with 216 MSC.  I hope the next guy who tries to steal from our good service providers at MastercoinXchange suffer the same fate.  When someone screws with an exchange service, I always hope they paid hell.  These exchanges are hard to set up so they can't be manipulated by assholes.
        KillerShitstorm is trying to leverage the situation to put more disrepute on Mastercoin in the stupid notion that somehow Colored Coins will catch up.  Colored Coins is a dumb-ass fucking idea without funding and no matter how much shit KillershitStorm throws around won't be affected.  KillerShitStorm is dying to find a way to push down Master and prop up his failed piece of garbage.  
        But don't get me wrond.  KillerShitStorm is actually intelligent.  Not only that, he will soon be on the Mastercoin team.  As soon as he decides to back the correct horse, he will be on tract.  He needs to take his talents and join Mastercoin community.  If I were JR, and I am not, I'd pay (with MSC) guys like KillerStorm to quit his failed mission with Colored and bring his talents over to Mastercoin.  Killer fucked up by not getting right with the Exodus fund raising event.  But it is not too late.  If Killer gets his head right today and gets in with the MSC devo team then we all benefit.  C'mon JR, give Killer a reasonable position in this deal and get him on board.  We all know he loves Mastercoin because he watches it so closely.   If JR doesn't move on this, then I would encourage the board to set up a program to bring killer in.  I'd personally set aside some of my MSC holdings to but his participation.  Until that happens, Killer is just going to look for every reason to throw mud at MSC.
      Unfortunate, but tolerable.  MSC will also be fine without him.  If he abandons ColoredBullshit and joins MSC we'd get the benefit of another talented guy in the project.  Either way, MSC is fine - but Killer is only going to come out ahead if he quits ColoredBullshit and joins a real project with good funding and serious team to develop a higher layer on Bitcoin.   

Saw MSC price fall, panicked, got here and my eyes can't process this much text.

Please someone TL;DR for people who just got here seeing the price dip ?

1. Someone succeeded in exploiting a vulnerability in a MSC exchange site? or a feature of MSC itself? please explain

2. That person was "punished" by having his MSC banned? the same way a government, bank, or other centralized entity would block money used for criminal activities? Now... don't get me wrong, it seems like the right thing to do if this money was stolen obviously. But the point of decentralization is to not do these kinds of things.

3. Is this fixed yet?  or can i hope to pick up some MSC at an even lower price.. How will this affect MSC going forward..?

322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PRE-PRE-ANN] AlgoCoin on: December 31, 2013, 03:41:11 AM
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323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Pre-Pre-Pre-Announcement on: December 31, 2013, 03:29:34 AM
Pay more tax on larger transactions?
Pay more tax as you mine larger amounts of coins?

This could then be bypassed by launching miners to several different wallets. Then sending it all to a single wallet.
324  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] My HP Laptop on: December 28, 2013, 04:14:28 AM
bitcoin wallet included?
325  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if Zuckerberg is trying to get in on bitcoin? on: December 28, 2013, 03:25:16 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY
326  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if Zuckerberg is trying to get in on bitcoin? on: December 28, 2013, 12:23:47 AM
They talked about this a few months ago http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f77qd/mark_zuckerberg_talks_about_bitcoin_in_hungary/) but I don't think he is really interested in bitcoin. Maybe he realized that FB is about to collapse or maybe some very nice news is coming from our friend Snowden


Everyone knows his opinion doesn't matter, he just ends up copying successful people with a sharp instinct, he made a good bet stealing winklevoss bros. idea the first time, he's gonna get in on it now.
327  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Titan Bitcoin - Silver 1 oz coin is now available on: December 28, 2013, 12:20:23 AM

Credit card ordering is back.  

We battled and negotiated with FIVE different banks/merchant account underwriters before landing on one with the best rates and terms, so please appreciate that the price markup you see at checkout when selecting to pay with a credit/debit card represents the lowest we could find at this time.  

We'll be looking to leverage our good standing to lower the rates in the future.

Want to buy some and send to an address in florida, but pay one part in BTC, and another with credit card, can we do that?
328  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if Zuckerberg is trying to get in on bitcoin? on: December 28, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
Could this be related to the massive bitcoin days destroyedlast week

https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed

If i had a few billion to spare i know i'd get in on btc Wink
329  Economy / Speculation / What if Zuckerberg is trying to get in on bitcoin? on: December 28, 2013, 12:06:22 AM
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/33467-zuckerburg-gets-rid-of-facebook-shares

Why dump all these shares of his own company?

Buying billions of $ or more worth of bitcoins?

Maybe he's getting jealous of the Winklevoss twins, and wants to steal the fame yet again.
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FREE NETCOINS for the first 50! (31/50) on: December 27, 2013, 09:12:00 PM
Send em my way!

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331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0% FEE] Coinium.org Network | DOGE | CAT | EAC [PPLNS][DDOS][UK][Stratum] on: December 25, 2013, 03:05:48 AM
150 CAT Coin Contest Draw (50 CAT x 3)
Here is how it works, it'll put your nicks in random.org and randomize! The top 3 gets the rewards!

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332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0% FEE] Coinium.org Network | DOGE | CAT | EAC [PPLNS][DDOS][UK][Stratum] on: December 24, 2013, 05:47:07 PM
I'm mining in coinium.org's Cat Coin pool.

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333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Fuck Cryptsy, Fuck Cryptsy, Fuck Cryptsy on: December 24, 2013, 01:46:48 PM
Cryptsy too my money and they don't care about anything else.

My 740 XPM was worth > 3000$ that night they took it.

No one is answering me about my issue, the only word these guys ever learned is "We allowed you to oversell, so you have to pay us now"


"Oversell"


"Oversold"

"It's your problem, our bug, but your problem."

"We don't give a shit about you, we don't give a shit if you trust us or about the law cause this is not money, its fake kid monopoly money."

"We deleted your screenshots because we knew they were revealing. Even though they were taken by our tool and proved you had that money and that we stole it, we just dont give a fuck so we deleted the tickets. However even if you backed them up we don't care, because you are a fucking CROOK, we don't know you but we are honest, we take everyones money but we are fucking honest and you're a fucking crook so your screenshot evidence is bullshit. Even if it was in the tickets our bug deleted."

(i have exact quotes somewhere in my logs but these are just TL;DR of what they basically repeat).

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.


PS: I DID NOT OVERSELL.

I DID NOT OVERSELL.
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Fuck Cryptsy, Fuck Cryptsy, Fuck Cryptsy on: December 24, 2013, 01:42:11 PM
Cryptsy too my money and they don't care about anything else.

My 740 XPM was worth > 3000$ that night they took it.

No one is answering me about my issue, the only word these guys ever learned is "We allowed you to oversell, so you have to pay us now"


"Oversell"


"Oversold"

"It's your problem, our bug, but your problem."

"We don't give a shit about you, we don't give a shit if you trust us or about the law cause this is not money, its fake kid monopoly money."

"We deleted your screenshots because we knew they were revealing. Even though they were taken by our tool and proved you had that money and that we stole it, we just dont give a fuck so we deleted the tickets. However even if you backed them up we don't care, because you are a fucking CROOK, we don't know you but we are honest, we take everyones money but we are fucking honest and you're a fucking crook so your screenshot evidence is bullshit. Even if it was in the tickets our bug deleted."

(i have exact quotes somewhere in my logs but these are just TL;DR of what they basically repeat).

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.

I want my money.
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I've never seen such shit as Cryptsy on: December 24, 2013, 01:33:07 PM
Sorry for those having support issues.

Latest stats
We have had 65742 new customers register in the past 26 days
- That being 2528 new users a day.
- We have hired a ton of new support gotta get them up to speed training doesn't happen in a day.
We did 243,000 trades yesterday.
- Compared to our average 40,000 trades prior to the 24th of November.
- We have made significant improvements to many aspects of the operation and continue to do more.

What I can tell you
We will get to your issue.
You will get your coins.
Your coins are safe.

There is a ton of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) spreading out there.
We have had some problems from growth. We will get them fixed.
We have made serious reinvestment into our people, equipment and product and intend to make it as our users demand.

Hope that eases some minds.

I want my coins

I want my response

I've been told i'd get my coins but you wont acknowledge my issue correctly, i have screen shots, and tons of people with the issue.

740 XPM.
TO  ME.
336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Hotcoin 1.0 release, donated two million coins, first-served basis. on: December 24, 2013, 07:29:06 AM
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FIRST FIRST !!! FRIST !!!
300 HTC FOR ME!!

sweet!
received.

Would be happy to unload you of more coins !  Cheesy
337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Hotcoin 1.0 release, donated two million coins, first-served basis. on: December 24, 2013, 06:59:53 AM
HQFHqgXYLovNJjuTCiFvEN296mkVqzTHNF


FIRST FIRST !!! FRIST !!!
300 HTC FOR ME!!
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SAY NO TO ANYMORE NEW COINS WITHOUT INNOVATION on: December 23, 2013, 03:40:30 AM
There should be a reddit like voting mechanism in this forum that would keep the top altcoins in the first page of "alt currencies" and the rest of the crapcoins in the "crapcurrencies" section.
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0 (MMC) - First CPU AES-NI Coin on: December 23, 2013, 03:27:30 AM
no word on an exchange?
340  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin bear chart on: December 23, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
What if it just was some noob who had mined coins in the earliest days then stopped mining them when GPU's came around, forgot about their wallet and only now realized what they were worth and their first instinct was to sell it all so they could pay off their student debt, mortgage or whatever.

Guys don't necessarily think this is highly sophisticated market maker who wants to pump and dump. They would have been more subtle.



120 000 BTC student debt
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