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just read in the whitepaper that peculium will offer 3 saving options. The third, Singulus is aimed at users like us. It is the solution for private investors. And you can choose if you want the support of AIEVE or not. But seriously, why should you do without AIEVE? I'm really looking forward to it, when Peculium is running and I can invest my money there
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a short question about the peculium account: recently you could copy a referral link, this possibility does not exist anymore. and my 4 or 5 recruited friends are no longer visible. Did referral make sense, and if so, where did my friends go?
Hi faulerwilli, the display of the referal section was not intended and thus we disabled it. In case we are doing a referal programm we will announce it beforehand!  Thanks for your support, we wont disappoint - big thumps up!  This is very bad. You first make people do free promotion for you and than you change your mind? This is the first bad sign for me, did not expect this from Peculium Sorry for the trouble but like i said the activation of the referal link wasnt intended and a bug. I think overall were 5 people who benefited from it and we gonna honor the bonus because it was a bug from our side. There is no need for project Peculium to make people "work for free". We have a ~5.250.000 € worth of PCL token bounty campaign and a 1.000.000 € (fiat prize) secret challenge.
a short question about the peculium account: recently you could copy a referral link, this possibility does not exist anymore. and my 4 or 5 recruited friends are no longer visible. Did referral make sense, and if so, where did my friends go?
Hi faulerwilli, the display of the referal section was not intended and thus we disabled it. In case we are doing a referal programm we will announce it beforehand! Thanks for your support, we wont disappoint - big thumps up! This is very bad. You first make people do free promotion for you and than you change your mind? This is the first bad sign for me, did not expect this from Peculium just wondering did they offer anything in exchange fir the referral? if not losing visibility of it really doesnt lose you anything, but i didnt see the page to know if it incentivized originally or not There was no announcement or advertising from our side because it was not intended and a bug. Thus only a handful of people used their referal link. The referal bonus was 5%. thanks for the fast answer, I can live with it being a bug. after all, nowhere was it written that there is something to advertise. I always thought, there is something else to come :-) When the quiet days are over, I'll dedicate myself to the secret challenge. Because of all the Christmas parties you have no time for nothing :-) |
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a short question about the peculium account: recently you could copy a referral link, this possibility does not exist anymore. and my 4 or 5 recruited friends are no longer visible. Did referral make sense, and if so, where did my friends go?
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haha that might be my fault.. i was just speculating what the news might be. and i give an example what would have been awesome (partnership with spotify). i guess some people misunderstood speculation from fact, sorry.
yes, it can go so fast, the wrong rumors are put into the world, one writes a guess, someone understands it wrong (or google translate does a bad job) and already some are confused. I hope, voxxo announces a partnership with sony-music, they have really good musicians under contract |
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This reminds me a sort of network marketing like Lyoness
when I first heard of flufluz, a comparison to lyoness was right in my head :-) Lyoness had some problems in Austria because pyramid schemes are banned here. I do not know how that was solved, but I think they are still in business. I also had these worries with FluzFluz, but I think that by buying only the first two seats there should be no problems |
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Thanks for the reply. Well I guess it could be a problem if the tokens get sold out :/ Good thing there is still 7 days left for the bonus though
I have not had any time to buy tokens because of christmas, at the moment I'm still waiting for airdrop-tokens. but I really want to buy some, hope in 2 days, when I finally have time for it, still tokens are available. I'm already annoyed not to have participated in the pre-ico I think the Peculium team will release airdrop and bounty tokens after the token sale has ended. I wish I had participated in the pre-ICO too but I found out about this project too late. I’m definitely going to get some soon though because I want to make sure I get the 20% bonus. very good decision to buy some tokens, this is really one of the most promising ICO i have seen. a very nice christmas present:-) And i have no Problem to wait for the airdrop-tokens until the sale has ended, I am a very patient person |
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Thanks for the reply. Well I guess it could be a problem if the tokens get sold out :/ Good thing there is still 7 days left for the bonus though
I have not had any time to buy tokens because of christmas, at the moment I'm still waiting for airdrop-tokens. but I really want to buy some, hope in 2 days, when I finally have time for it, still tokens are available. I'm already annoyed not to have participated in the pre-ico |
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oh man, have just read me through the telegram channel. lot of information. they are discussing the network sizes and that even as a normal fluzzer you have a network under your belt that has to share cashback upwards. 50% of the cashback will be distributed to all the network seats above, and the higher you go, the more you get, of course. What is new to me is that the 4th row also has a network among them and benefits from them. The question remains: Do you have to buy the tier4 seat or do you get it automatically if you are fluzzer?
Let me explain that for you. For each tier 1 seat, there is a network under him. That network topology is a binary tree:  Buying tokens, you can buy tier 1 and 2 seats (positions 1, 2 and 3 in the graph). The rest of the seats in the network are distributed on First Come, First Served basis. Once you are in the network, you keep half of the cashback you generate and share the remaining 50% with everyone over you. For example, #9 on the image generates cashback worth 2$. She keeps 1$ for him and 1,2 and 4 share the remaining 1$. Feel free to ask if you still have doubts. crap is this something like quest and the likes? the social network sales? basically the early will always be the ones to take most of profits and the late you are the less income you are likely to make? I don't know what quest is, but, of course entering the network as early as possible gives you the best rewards. That's why we are ready to pay for a premium seat on the top of the network. But, don't lose the focus on this, customers don't read whitepapers and stuff. They have the option to buy something at a store at regular price or buy it at a discount using FluzFluz App. It's a nobrainer for them. Afterwards, they get the cashback of the network behind them, but that's like the icing in the cake, they won't optimize for that but get it as a gift. Thanks for that, that's a really simple explanation. and of course the first ones benefit the most, so it's always in the life :-) but also other users can later buy seats, if someone wants to sell his network. for whatever reason But they also come into your network as you say, they get money back and that's enough for most people. thanks again for the explanation, and merry christmas (is there a tier1 seat under your christmas tree? :-) ) |
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oh man, have just read me through the telegram channel. lot of information. they are discussing the network sizes and that even as a normal fluzzer you have a network under your belt that has to share cashback upwards. 50% of the cashback will be distributed to all the network seats above, and the higher you go, the more you get, of course. What is new to me is that the 4th row also has a network among them and benefits from them. The question remains: Do you have to buy the tier4 seat or do you get it automatically if you are fluzzer?
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Peculium should have survived the ddos attack well, page is available and you can log in again. Wanted to invest a bit yesterday after the great news, but the site did not open. I thought that many interested people want to log in, but that it was a ddos attack, I would not have thought. in the crypt world, really no day passes, without attacking stock exchanges, icos or anything else.
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Here you guys praise this project for various advantages. However, let's be critical. What Voxxo project have flaws?
Like every project, Voxxo must have flaws too. I can name a few things that I see as; should be developed more. But I dont think it is fare to do that, because Voxxo is still in a very early phase of development. What flaws do you see? I've already said this but for me it's difficult to believe they are going to acquire 5M users with the money they are asking for in this ICO. I would like to see at least an slide on their customer acquisition funnel and what is the CAC they are aiming for. I can imagine, that it could be hard for Voxxo to make it's way against the strong competition it already has now. Like, for example Spotify. If Spotify decides to do an ICO well that could be bad news for Voxxo, but since Voxxo has also different other goals (like concerts) it is less a threat Now I am confused. Voxxo wants to have partnership with Spotify right? Or they want to go ahead with separate ICO? Whatever Voxxo. Is unique and it will move on high. no reason to be confused, there will be no partnership between the two. and spotifiy will not change the business model from one day to the next. If Voxxo wants to announce a partnership, then probably with a big music publisher. everything else would make little sense in my opinion |
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As you write a lot about the tokens' trading: do you know what happens to the tokens that you do not sell but buy with a seat? no matter if tier1 or tier2. Do they go to FluzFluz, are they burned or are they kept even if you buy a seat?
Hello, As you might understand, as a serious company we cannot issue token price predictions. The value proposition is centered around the cash backs derived from a premier seat. Any token price arbitrage is an add-on for the speculative oriented participant. This is also favoured in the FLUZ case due to the token burn mechanism after seat activation and hence declining token availability in the market. Hello, I did not want a price forecast, but just know what's going on with the tokens that you buy a seat with. And I see that there are different answers from you and stefan. You have already been asked for clarification, I would like to repeat this herewith |
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so oft, wie die schon gehackt wurden, wundert es mich, dass die noch nicht zugesperrt haben. Von Litebit kann ich, wie einige vor mir nur, abraten
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Here you guys praise this project for various advantages. However, let's be critical. What Voxxo project have flaws?
Like every project, Voxxo must have flaws too. I can name a few things that I see as; should be developed more. But I dont think it is fare to do that, because Voxxo is still in a very early phase of development. What flaws do you see? It is, exciting news are coming but only right after chritsmas and new years eve. I dont think that im allowed to speak about it. Maybe devs gonna tell it those ones who are asking privately oh man, they make me really curious. But i think i already made a decision and will buy some tokens soon. Price is really good at the moment, and also i get 50% Bonus. sounds good to me. and I'm looking forward to the exciting news:-) |
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der Premium seat tier 1 kostet ja da doppelte von dem tier2 premium seat. Kann mir schnell einer sagen welche signifikanten vorteile der tier 1 gegenüber dem tier 2 hat .
Es ist quasi wie eine Pyramide, tier1 ist ganz oben, tier2 eine reihe darunter. Da du von den cashbacks unter dir profitierst, bekommst du mehr, wenn du eine weitere Reihe unter dir hast, als wenn du noch eine Reihe über dir "mitfinanzieren" musst. So hab ich das zumindest verstanden. Ob es im Endeffekt wirklich soviel Unterschied ausmacht, muss man sich dann in der Praxis anschauen |
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I have now read a first part of the investment opportunity. They invest 25% of the crowd-sales in their first solidus contract. 50% of the proceeds go to the token holder, and AIEVE invests, so you do not have to worry about winning. The first investors benefit from the first solidus contract. But I prefer to copy it in to you. I like how they planned it From the "investment opportunity https://peculium.io/ : First SOLIDUS Contract is a self-sustaining, end to end (E2E) smart-contract. 25% of the funds collected during crowd- sale will be invested in First SOLIDUS Contract. This contract will be of 6 months recurring duration. Being the "First" solidus contract, investors in the FSC will be able to benefit from the premium benefits of the AIΞVE. The benefits of portfolio management in the FSC will be completely free of cost. AIΞVE harnesses power of these predictions from the Big-data analysis to optimize portfolio of the First SOLIDUS Contract and generates the most profits while taking the least risks. 50% of the profits generated during each contract period will be shared with the investors/PCL holders at the end of each contract period in the form of ETH payments. 50% of the profits will be re-injected into next cycle of FSC making it as self sustaining contract. |
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Guys, i just saw this on there telegram group by the CEO
Oukhai Rachid:
GOOGLE // PECULIUM : PARTNERSHIP ANNOUNCEMENT
Peculium has been approach by the Google’s Headquarters team in Hamburg earlier this month. After careful consideration and discussion, Peculium is thrilled to announce its new strategic partnership with Google.
Google provide us with a high touch account management service free of charge from digital and branding strategy to cloud computing capabilities.
Peculium team and Google experts will work side by side and shared their respective knowledge to build the future of Cryptocurrencies and Blockchain industry.
I read that on slack and I'm thrilled. that is a really good and meaningful cooperation, together the whole project will surely become even more successful. I already had a good feeling with this ICO, but now I am completely convinced. Will invest soon. and I'm sure I can be very happy about the tokens on twitter bounty |
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I couldnt see anything related to Fluz Fluz in the article, please inform us hi, there is a hint link in the article, just klick on " bitcointalk.org" in this part of the article "Token für Aufgaben In der Regel ähneln sich die Kampagnen aller Kryptowährungen stark. Detaillierte Ausschreibungen finden sich meist auf bitcointalk.org. " I got a response from Stefan on telegram and I was completely wrong on this. The tokens won't be burned nor transferred, we'll be able to activate the seat ownership and then we'll keep the tokens for us, but these tokens won't be able to activate any more seats.
As an ERC20 token can't have different capabilities for each issued token, and Stefan has told me that there will be a narrow activation window, I bet the tokens will be frozen for that period of time (that's, for example, how ethroll manages its dividend payments).
thanks for asking an sharing the answer with us. good to know. I read that 10% of the cashback will be paid out to all token holders. If that's true, you'll benefit twice from a seat |
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Guys am still on the issue of paid and free users. Let's look at it from this perspective, we all view YouTube videos right and they come with ads, in order words we all view YouTube ads too and we sent complain, instead we learnt to live with it an press Skip when it pops out. Why do you guys think users won't love to do same with voxxo instead of upgrading to paid user?
I know that many skip the youtube-advertising (like me:-) ). You sit at home on the computer and look a couple of videos, the advertising is annoying very often. At Voxxo I see the difference that many listen to their music in the car. there you can not just click away the advertising, but you have to focus on the traffic. In addition, many people now accept to pay for a good product. In my opinion, the free mentality that has entered with the Internet in the late 1990's is dwindling more and more. Look at Netflix, Spotify, Amazon Video.. so many streaming-provider, and we all pay for there services. |
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