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3241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 12, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
Well that is true gambling is really deceitful if you are an addicted gambler and you are helping yourself. Your heart is going to beat and something is going to come into your mind that you can't help yourself if you are not going to gamble even for a day. BUt if you are going to fight against it, for sure you are going to stay away from gambling in the end.
If addicted person really want to change his life, then he will think about of quitting already in gambling.
And if that person is really determined to stop gambling, even without the help of other people he can make it and he can quit in gambling by himself.

Totally agree with this. You don't even really have some medications in order to stay away from gambling. The best medicine of getting out to gambling if it destroy your life and get too much addicted to it is - the will power!
3242  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 12, 2016, 11:07:20 AM
Bitcoins price now is very on a good fluctuate today that is why if you are planning to buy bitcoin today. Then today is the right time to buy, because for the next months and years the price today is not going to be seen again. And you just need to keep on holding it until the price is going to be at the top and you are going to earn good profit out of it.
This should have been done when the price dropped to a critical level immediately after the collapse of the bitfinex еxchange. Probably many took advantage of the moment and make a purchase bitcoin, and even today they are already in scoring.
Wise investors are already making money now, to be honest as long as the crisis is not really that serious you can always make money on the price fall back and the more you have a good amount of money the more you will earn good profits. I have bought a certain amount when there was a fall back but I wish I should have bought more.



That's true for me what comes to the people when they are thinking about to buy bitcoin is that they are scare to buy some especially when there is a crisis in bitcoin. And yeah, wise investors are making money when there is a crisis in bitcoin they are taking advantage of it and buying a lot of bitcoin when the price is low.

If only I can have that big resources, I would buy more and more bitcoins especially today that price is down. Earning couple of dollars per bitcoin when the price gets high again (and you have just bought a bunch of bitcoins) then it will be a sweet profit few months or years from now Smiley
3243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 12, 2016, 11:04:10 AM
I do not have an experience to gambling.
But based on my understanding, it is not totally bad or wrong.
It depends to someone who plays it.

Thats the baaic form we can actually called for gambling and thats gambling is totally fine and i dont see either some wrong for it.


For legal aspect, if gambling is illegal in your country, so gambling is wrong. If not, it is not wrong.

For religion aspect, Christians and Muslims consider gambling is wrong.
Our government could be wrong on the other hand of making gambling illegal, they should make an exception for those who are not minors to play gambling because that is our privilege to enjoy and we take the full responsibility of our actions.

How could you think government is wrong For treating gambling as illegal? I do agree with them since gambling is destructable for those people who easily get addicted for these things and these is just a simple warnings since it can give bad effect to anyones life, and their are other syndicate whos making illegal underground gambling so theres nothing wrong for making it as a law or pointing it as illegal hobby.

Those gambling that is done underground are the ones that are illegal - there are government approved lotto games and some other gambling that is designed for entertainment.
3244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: August 12, 2016, 10:59:29 AM
Girls gamble too,definitely.Gambling has no choosen gender,it can give interest to everyone not just for money but for fun also.In today's wide trend of changes and lots of opportunities there's no reason why even girls are involved in gambling.

That is definitely true. Try checking the chatrooms in most online casino that has active players in chatroom - there are many girls out there. There is even a certain online casino that majority of the active players in chatrooms are girls.
3245  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 12, 2016, 10:55:32 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

The best way for a steady income is to own a small or intermediate company, offering the service and having few or more clients so you will have to work most of the time and deliver the service/product.
On the cryptocurrency world is good to a have an exchange, a forum or games.

This is one of the most relax and coolest ways of advice to have a steady income

I guess you simply don't understand what the hell it is to run "a small or intermediate company"

We want steady income right? There is no easy way to get it. We have to do our best efforts, time, and money in order to get that goal. When you get the hang of running a small or intermediate company, then we are on the right track and worthy of success.

P.S.: I was referring to relax and cool to the message below the avatar of the commenter.
3246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 12, 2016, 10:53:08 AM
sometimes beneficial sometimes losses more Sad
Gambing isn't wrong gambling is way to earn some bitcoin with playing games
gambling in my side is funny way to get some bitcoin and make my day more happy with profits

I love the way how you see gambling in your life. This should be our way of looking at gambling - for entertainment. That way, we don't give bad impression to the industry. We must only play money that we can afford to lose. Hence, gambling is not wrong at all.
3247  Other / Archival / Re: Do you have paypal account even though you have bitcoin? on: August 12, 2016, 10:50:12 AM
After i know bitcoin, for as of now i am still using paypal because its more store are accepting paypal as payment unlike bitcoin they are few store are accepting for bitcoins..

Eventually, many stores and merchants will also adopt and accepts bitcoin soon. Having both paypal and bitcoin wallet is the wise thing to do. It's easy to create them and no maintenance fee - so there is really no harm in having both accounts.
3248  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 12, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
I consider bitcoin as a currency and I use it like that.I dont believe in holding bitcoin and depriving others of owning them at low price

Respected that point of yours Btcforall. However, holding bitcoin is not depriving others of winning them at low price - it is just a price of you being smart in holding your coins or fiat money in that matter.

If you just spend and spend then eventually will lose all of your money or bitcoins, if you hold some, then you will have in times of need and may even grow it with its value increasing.
3249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 12, 2016, 10:44:32 AM
Yes, I not rich with gambling but i very happy with gambling. Actually i'm feel like rich by playing gambling. Because before know gambling i do not really rich when i know and play i feel like rich but not too much. However in this situation i'm not really depend on gambling, It is only intend entertain. once again just my oppinion

Well,  if you do not have the capacity to gamble to make money then you should stay your play with the intention to have fun or else you will still lose because to make money you need a decent bankroll to last longer.

Agree with this. If you have no other money and spend everything you have to gamble then it is a really bad decision. If you want to really earn big in gambling, you need to have big bankroll and must be contented of winning small and withdrawing.
3250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: August 12, 2016, 10:38:47 AM
gambling makes me cry whem balance 0.0955 btc and then 0.125 btc
and now the balnce is 0 i want to cry as hard as possible

I feel you MasoVa - been there and experienced that Smiley I really hated myself back then when I never stopped and just continue betting thingking that I will still win and that will be my moment to win 1 btc. But guess what happened, I lost everything to zero bankroll. Better to withdraw if we have some profits already.
3251  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 12, 2016, 10:36:03 AM
i think invest at great altcoin is best option.
like buying ethereum classic, Im buying ethereum classic at 280.000 sathosi and now the price rising to 470.000 . if you give me 10btc i will double it with altcoin trading  Wink

There is still no guarantee that you will profit in ethereum with what is happening with it. Actually there is no guarantee that you can profit in any alt coins. Except for a few solid alt coins, they can easily be scam in just a blink of an eye.

But I think ETH is still a good option to invest, as it exists since long time and I think it will also not disappear very soon, and the other coin that is gaining more attention at a moment is ETC.
ETH will always become a good investment during a lot of people is using that too, because we can see the volume of ETH maybe is more than bitcoin in this time and that can make the ETH is always become a good place for investing your capital.

I respect that and there are a number of people already investing in ETH however, I still believe that bitcoin is the way to go. Some merchants are already accepting bitcoins for their products and services and bitcoin proven its worth from getting down to getting back up again.
3252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gamble small amount i win and when i gamble big i loose. on: August 12, 2016, 10:29:57 AM
usually this can happen when we too greedy and want to get more and more profits
all coins which we win lose if long run better stop if we get profits although its small amount

I have learned this lesson the hard way before. I lost more than 2btc because I never stop and keep on playing to get the big profit as I can. Well, that changes now.. I play it smart and don't get greedy. Gambling is bad if you get greedy and it is fun if you are not.
3253  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 12, 2016, 10:23:18 AM
It is more on investment now due to lack of either physical or online stores that accept bitcoin. On the other hand, here in our country we are already using BTC as currency through paying bills and mobile load recharge, so it is really big help for us.

Yeah it can be treated both ways, spend it if you are able to and if not then simply save it for the future as bitcoin will be more developed in future allowing us to spend anywhere we want.

Me either, I'm doing the same thing with bitcoin as a currency and as a investment. Because I'm enjoying the service of bitcoin daily with it conveniently by paying the services that I'm availing online and paying them by means of bitcoin. And the product or service that I'm enjoying is also an investment for me.

That's the advantages of bitcoin, I also use btc as currency and Investment.
Nowadays many stores  and services that accept bitcoin, so it makes easier for us to online transaction without having to leave home.
Savings bitcoin  also an investment, because the high exchange rate and the prices continues to rise.

That is the beauty of bitcoins and many merchants now are adopting bitcoins for their services or products. Just want to says something about currency and investment. Currency refers to fiat money that is not fixed, it constantly changing its value (same is true to bitcoins) so if we see we use it for currency we are really referring to use it like a fiat money. In terms of investment, we place our currency  (bitcoin) to investment vehicles hoping that it will beat the future price of a currency.
3254  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 12, 2016, 10:06:28 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

The best way for a steady income is to own a small or intermediate company, offering the service and having few or more clients so you will have to work most of the time and deliver the service/product.
On the cryptocurrency world is good to a have an exchange, a forum or games.

This is one of the most relax and coolest ways of advice to have a steady income. I would also like to point out that there are two kinds of income: active and passive income. Active income are income from your job or works you actively participate with your skills and time. Passive income however, is income that comes to you without any actions from you like earnings from rent of your real properties, royalties from your songs and books, and the like. I should say we focus of creating passive income for us.
3255  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 12, 2016, 09:54:44 AM
1$ for a bitcoin seems unrealistic to me.
If it would drop that low nobody would buy it. Bitcoin would simply stop to exist.
No miners would run a bitcoin mining software. So no transactions could be made what would mean the end of bitcoin.
I think that even 50$ per coin would lead to an end.

No unless its holding some value we cannot say that its dead, and if it falls to $1 price then there are many people who will prefer to take risk and buy at even that low price hoping that price will rise again.

I now I would take that risk. Unless the cause of the price drop is the block chain itself, I will still invest in bitcoin. It is a chance I will not ignore. I ignored bitcoin once, when it is still on its early years, I will not make that mistake again. I will buy bitcoins even when it hits 1$.

Although it is really far from truth that bitcoin will drop to $1, however when that time comes, I will definitely buy as much as I can. Bitcoin is the future, period. I just hope that the number of bitcoins will go as far as billion instead of just 21 million something.
3256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 12, 2016, 09:48:35 AM
i am not rich from gambling but i am getting lost with gambling, maybe i am not have good luck in gambling so i lost my bitcoin on that games. its really makes me sad but i am taking a lesson with this so its not happen again in future.

You need self-control. Without it, you'll always loose more than you thought you could. Gambling always works this way, and not being capable of controlling yourself is your danger.
Yes right the baddest thing in gambling is i think the greediness to win even more and more.And it has to end with the loss.I also had the same problem but now i have build some self-control in myself.But still gambling cannot make any poor or a normal people richer.But i think its possible for a richer person to become more richer through gambling because money attracts money.

Yes poor will become more poorer and richer will become richest with gambling, but its never possible for a normal person to expect to get rich with gambling that is simply impossible.

How many persons become rich by gambling? But more people get loss by gambling, of course there are people get rich by gambling in addition to the owner. Only they who know how gambling works could win a lot, for us never expect it. we just bet for fun and win if get luck, so never greedy and bet too much than you can afford to loss.

People who really win big and become rich with gambling are now in some exclusive islands already having a lot of fun - keeping all by themselves. While the people we heard about talking publicly are usually losers or have just been lost in gambling.
3257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 12, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
I prefer gambling than investment . investment I think it's a scam , if you lose bitcoin because gambling is your fault , but if you lose bitcoin for investment it is ignorance you
Not all investment are scams, you can select the best investment site and like investing in gambling sites it will give your a guaranteed profit  if you can select the best and trusted gambling sites, i think there are a lot of that here, we just need to spot it.

Well put Ziskinberg.. but I also like to point it out that there is really no guarantee in any investment that we have because even the biggest corporations or government can at anytime suffers loses.. When we invest, we risk - there is no guarantee.
3258  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 12, 2016, 09:38:11 AM
i think invest at great altcoin is best option.
like buying ethereum classic, Im buying ethereum classic at 280.000 sathosi and now the price rising to 470.000 . if you give me 10btc i will double it with altcoin trading  Wink

There is still no guarantee that you will profit in ethereum with what is happening with it. Actually there is no guarantee that you can profit in any alt coins. Except for a few solid alt coins, they can easily be scam in just a blink of an eye.

But I think ETH is still a good option to invest, as it exists since long time and I think it will also not disappear very soon, and the other coin that is gaining more attention at a moment is ETC.

It depends on how you are going to take it, I do believe that there are some alt coins that is good to consider too for investment. It is just going on how you are going to play for your money there especially with that 10 bitcoin. It is already a big amount to start for any investment to an alt coin or even a lot of it.

If the OP decides to invest to other altcoins, it must be in a well-calibrated execution - buzz about the alt coin and bitcoin. The OP's goal shall be for a shorter period of time and not for a long haul. Even a day or two as long as the OP gets desirable profits.
3259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 12, 2016, 09:34:19 AM
its really sad that people sometimes literally cannot control themselves even if they actually understand that they are going to lose, they should seek professional help

Because they want it to happen and they let it happen and let it conquer their lives...Usually it is out of desperation or depression in real life that could result to their excessive gambling... Maybe they have a weak disposition in life, that's my opinion to that.
That could be possible because if you are a person with a good job and has so many responsibilities with your family you cannot give more time in gambling as you need to prioritize things over, gambling addicts are sometimes those teenager that does not thing too much for their lives and just ask money from their parents.

No need to really have a problem in order to be a gamble addict. I didn't have a problem at the time I found dice games, and I'm still addicted. But after a loss of over 50 bucks, I am now able to control myself. I have secured my wallet so I can't deposit cash anymore. But I'm still a gambler.

If gambling is in limit then its good but if you gamble without any limit then it becomes very risky as you may loose everything in a single day and can make you bankrupt too.

I 100% agree to this. The problem most gamblers face is that when they profited small amount from their betting, they tend to get boring and feel unsatisfied with their winnings. That is why they tend to bet big with the hope of having big profits but really end up losing.

Best is, don't let emotions dictates in your betting sessions.
3260  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 12, 2016, 09:31:10 AM
i think invest at great altcoin is best option.
like buying ethereum classic, Im buying ethereum classic at 280.000 sathosi and now the price rising to 470.000 . if you give me 10btc i will double it with altcoin trading  Wink

There is still no guarantee that you will profit in ethereum with what is happening with it. Actually there is no guarantee that you can profit in any alt coins. Except for a few solid alt coins, they can easily be scam in just a blink of an eye.

For me, bitcoin is still the best, leading, and will continue to soar high among other coins. It is just hard to rely our assets to other coins other than bitcoins. It is just my personal opinion though.
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