ndnhc, have you in plan to start an avatar campaign like marcotheminer or not?
Of course. Might test a small scale version.. But the avatars are the issue. The images will be similar or so. You can create 10-15 different avatar or just do as marcotheminer (add a little write to the right or left side of the avatar). |
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I will not have a paid avatar on my account, but do not mind if others will. People love free coins, which is understandable.
It's a win - win situation. People get free extra coins, and services get extra advertisment exposure.
...and users are banned from post and send PM // sarcasm  .
ndnhc, have you in plan to start an avatar campaign like marcotheminer or not? |
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Is it against the forum rules?
I dont think so, well in fact I know its not against the rules, because its not listed as a rule. The question is whether the post is spam or not and this is unrelated to whether you quote a single person or multiple. I think its personal preference. IIRC doog said that he stopped advertising his signature because he was afraid to get a ban because of said posting style. Thats the crux, if you sell your signature you will have a hard time arguing that its just your posting style, esp. if you get paid per post. .... So the problem is only because I am selling my signature space to bit-x.com? If I didn't wear a signature my two posts would have not been removed, this is very "insane". Only because they are paying me for my posts I can't write 2 posts in a row, but the signature campaign is not against the forum rules and those two posts are not to be considered spam or insubstantial so why all this? I hope you understand me, this is really illogical. Sorry guys , if I seem arrogant but this is my point of view (and maybe I am wrong, who knows?). |
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So is it because of some problem in India? It will be helpful if any Indians other than who posted here can tell whether they are experiencing any problems. Thank you!
Can you post a traceroute when you are connected through VPN? I would like to see the difference between your first trace and the second. Thanks. |
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This, it's a nice and (maybe) real solution but all the manager/maintainers of the signature campaign should cooperate in the selection of the valid users. I have suggested to pay all the quality posts and not the number posts, but it is obviously a lot of work and it will be not a good promotion to those services related to bitcoin.
Hmm... so the managers of the ad sig campaigns should "vet the posts". I doubt that they really care as from their economic perspective all that matters is the number of posts that have their sig. You have heard the term "any publicity is good publicity" I presume?(they are happy enough to force that work upon the mods as there is *zero* penalty for them) Yes I have heard that term and I agree with you, the users are posting crap posts (and they are victim of themselves) and they are banned from the forum but this is not the real solution to the problem. Well if you really want to filter the crap apart from the valuable ones, you really need to do some heavy work to achieve positive results. Campaign managers do a lot of work, but filtering and setting some standards before accepting users is a good way for them to save money, too. so why not add an extra effort in managing the said campaigns? Setting limits to the number of users who are eligible to join the campaign is just one way of reducing the number of crappy posts in this forum. If this is done by campaign managers, we could still see the valuable topics that should be discussed regarding bitcoins.
You should open a thread in the service discussion and ask if the various sig. campaign manager will help you in that cause but as CIYAM written in his post "any publicity is good publicity". I predict a new spam wave with the introduction of the "avatar campaign" maybe the unique valid solution is the "ignore function". |
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So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin').
The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Ok, so the sig ad generate crap posts. Is this your thought? Then the real problem are the various signature ad campaign and the crap posts are generated by users that don't know what write in their 'posts'. This, I think is the problem... but I don't know how to resolve it at all. The signature campaigns aren't the problem; the users enrolled in such campaigns are. I mean, come on, you don't want to spend your time reading crap posts and other spammy content. You came here to view relevant discussions that may be of help to bitcoin and to the community as well. I think the best solution--if people still want the signature campaigns to be present--is to limit the number of users entering these campaigns and set up some standards before accepting users and considering them "eligible" in joining one. Doing so may decrease users who most of the time posts crap and other spammy content just to boost their post count. This, it's a nice and (maybe) real solution but all the manager/maintainers of the signature campaign should cooperate in the selection of the valid users. I have suggested to pay all the quality posts and not the number posts, but it is obviously a lot of work and it will be not a good promotion to those services related to bitcoin. |
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.... A quick question because I'm just curious on this one (this is an off-topic question but can you answer this question?). How do you guys became mods of this forum? I've been thinking about it for too long.  Please guys can we stay on topic? Thanks. If you want information of how to become a mod (or how they became mod) open your own thread here in the meta section. |
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Most people nowadays are banned for sig spam, so decreasing their activity may also make their rank go down, not all time, but will and also, this increases the time for their promotion.
It might not make their rank go down either. There's quite a substantial amount of activity to be gained between FM to Snr and Snr to Hero so it won't have much difference if you're in between those ranks. A signature ban will be far more effective in these instances. What about an auxiliary penalty to be included with temp bans? Like an halving of amount of activity that can be earned after the expiration of the same ban? As an example, If someone got banned for 14 days after the ban expired, in the next 14 days he could earn only 50% of activity. If he got banned for 60 days after the ban expired, in the next 60 days he could earn only 50% of activity. It "similar" to my suggestion, but I have asked the diminution of the activity for each ban so also if someone received 2-5 ban he can continuing post after his ban (with the limitation of the ranks but he cannot wear a properly signature). |
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Hey guys,
I don't want to argue badly (or make a sort of fight here) so please keep 'peaceful' the discussion. Yesterday in the advcash service discussion I have posted two messages in a row -- double posting (* and a mod merged them in one post , saying someone reported my posts). I didn't think it was against the forum rules, I have made only to make comfortable the reading of those posts.
Now I would like to ask what's wrong in make consecutive posts (not every quote= new post - but maybe 2-3 quotes in a post and other 1-2 quotes in other post)? Is it against the forum rules?
Thanks for the attention, and I want to reply again "please keep 'peaceful' this thread"
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Example please? Maybe because they are consecutive without someone posting in between. Makes sense since you could have just ecited the last post you made. Example for my two posts in a row (double posting)? Only that in the advcash thread, I don't remember to posted other times in this way (because I always reply to 2-3 quotes in one post, yesterday I don't felt to post all in one message so I have separated in two posts). |
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So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin').
The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Ok, so the sig ad generate crap posts. Is this your thought? Then the real problem are the various signature ad campaign and the crap posts are generated by users that don't know what write in their 'posts'. This, I think is the problem... but I don't know how to resolve it at all. |
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.... this is a forum when the people share their ideas and learn from the talent users.
Except once the "talent" gets so sick of reading all the useless posts that they leave in which case the likely result will be just newbies posting to newbies with each side only doing so to get paid for their ad sigs (with a total of zero knowledge being disseminated as neither those newbies asking questions or answering them actually care about the content of the posts but just that they get paid for posting). So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). |
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Ok but if I report an user (who wear a sig ad) and made a couple of posts in a row the staff should merge them or am I wrong? Because if there is not a rule and then is not against the forum rules I can write two posts in a row for make comfortable the reading/legibility (as the other users did, but their posts are not merged - not a problem).
Thanks again.
Well we'll probably have to wait for clarification from the admins on that. It's the first situation I've heard of a mod editing and merging double posts but maybe it should be taken on a case-by-case basis. I think people should make the habit of not doing double posts though. If I can, this is the post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011381.msg11053831#msg11053831 edited - merged by grue (I have already contacted him and I don't have anything against his action, I only want a clarification because I do not think it is against the forum rules and no one of the various posts of other users were merged in a one).
There is no rule against "double posting" as you are describing. Who was the moderator that did this and what was the post?
By making two posts, it makes it easier to read, especially when you are quoting multiple responses. If you make one post that responded to 5 or 6 different people then more likely then not the people you are responding to will either not see that you responded to them or will otherwise ignore your post.
This practice may or may not be post padding, however post padding is not against the rules, making insubstantial posts however is, so as long as each of your posts are not insubstantial and contributes to the conversation then you should be fine.
read my reply above the quote, it was not insubstantial posts. Wait, I have received this PM (before see the post merged): A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. I'm trying out the virtual one. I'll come back here to post on what I find.
My deposit has 3 confirmations but is still "pending". I'm guessing it needs 6.
Hi, when you send bitcoin you should wait the "standard" irreversible 6 confirm, and after your coin will appear in your balance. Let me know if you will find other problems  (or simply want an help). Yeah, it's all good now. I'll give some feedback after I try it out for a bit. I don't quite understand all of the limits, though. What does a one-time limit mean? Is it overall for the card or for just one transaction? Have you tried the card with some purchases? For the moment I also don't understand what mean "one-time limit" but I can't see it in the site ( http://advcash.com/en/solutions/card/):  Also this site DOESN'T Allow member from Pakistan, I have More then 15 ref so what should I do Now?
Maybe mastercard has some trouble with the pakistan laws, however I don't know how the ref systema works so I cannot help you. I have replied to the messages #28 - #30 in a separated post , for make understable and comfortable all the content; and replied to #29 in another one. |
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I don't think there's any rule on it but it's never going to be looked upon favourably when you have a signature as it's unnecessary, but I honestly don't know why you felt the need to double post in this thread. Looks like you're pushing your luck to me.
Ok but if I report an user (who wear a sig ad) and made a couple of posts in a row the staff should merge them or am I wrong? Because if there is not a rule and then is not against the forum rules I can write two posts in a row for make comfortable the reading/legibility (as the other users did, but their posts are not merged - not a problem). Thanks again. Edit: as I said previously, I usually reply 2-3 also 4 quotes in one post but yesterday I tried to post in a row. |
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I don't find it wrong in anyway as once even I did it to post comments in a Signature campaign I was a part of but my second post was deleted even though it was not off topic and it wasn't merged. I don't get paid to post in my signature campaign but well it is considered as bumping a thread twice and so one needs to clutter up their post to avoid double posting or wait for another person to reply and then post another comment.
So there isn't a clear rule and each mod. "moderate" thanks to hi judgement (not a problem) but I will see if that mod will merge those posts from those users or not. This is why I have opened that thread (but first I sent a pm to that mod). |
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Actually if u are doing it when you are in a signature campaign it might be reported as post spam so as to increase post count but otherwise I guess it won't be against the rules as at times due to some glitches I also at times send double PMs.
A mod wud better answer you though.
Spam? Hmm I don't think this is the real reason. Thanks also to you, for the reply. It's not really necessary to be honest. I'm not really buying the whole length thing. I often quote many people I want to reply to in one post. Why would you need to double post? The only way I can see it being valid is if a thread hasn't been replied to and you need to bump it for whatever reason.
Thanks for your reply, this is mine: ....
However I do not consider double posting (only two posts) in a row for the quotes question 'post padding'... I have seen users posted 3-4 posts in a row, and I don't consider it bump because the posts are close to each other in seconds.
I have replied to those users in a few second, so it is not a bump to that thread. Have a nice day guys, it is not a problem for me but if all the other users can do/make double posting and their thread were not merged then this is the problem. |
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If you want to quote other users' replies and want to avoid double posting but is hesitant to do so because it will make the thread "long" and difficult to read, why not cut the portion or the point that you want to reply and not the whole reply of the user per se? That might avoid the long reply because of quoting and can be a good way to avoid double posting. I always post in this way, remove the unecessary post and replace it with '...' but yesterday I have separated the quotes. Well, even if I made 3 posts consecutively, I will be doing so only with the pure intention of making the reader understand it better especially since I don't get paid for any posts I make.  But you are wearing a sig ad (like me and all the other users that posted in this thread). Me too, yesterday I have "splitted or better cut" the 3 quotes in : 2 quotes: 1 post | and other quote in another post, only to make comfortable the reading (as you said).
All this situation make me really "weirded" and really I can't understand what is the purpose. |
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Another stupid thing (made by ISIS): |ISIS destroys ancient ruins of Nimrud, video showsIslamic State of Iraq and Syria militants hammered, bulldozed and ultimately blew up parts of the ancient Iraqi Assyrian city of Nimrud, destroying a site dating back to the 13th century BC, an online militant video purportedly shows. The destruction at Nimrud, located near the militant-held city of Mosul, came amid other attacks on antiquity carried out by the group now holding a third of Iraq and neighbouring Syria in its self-declared caliphate. The attacks have horrified archaeologists and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who last month called the destruction at Nimrud "a war crime." The seven-minute video, posted late Saturday, shows bearded militants using sledgehammers, jackhammers and saws to take down huge alabaster reliefs depicting Assyrian kings and deities. A bulldozer brings down walls, while militants fill barrels with explosives and later destroy three separate areas of the site in massive explosions. More at: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/isis-destroys-ancient-ruins-of-nimrud-video-shows-1.3029687 |
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