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3261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves to go down on a big scale by atleast 70% on: December 22, 2018, 08:05:53 AM
The crazy rise will be accompanied by a crazy decline, because Bitcoin does not break through $4,180, and only bitcoin will break through the wave and will rise sharply without falling. This requires observing bitcoin, which affects the entire cryptocurrency.

incresingly less, people care for utility token
3262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Bitcoin and BCH could both become shitcoins on: December 22, 2018, 08:00:17 AM
reason:

loss of capital,

since retailers that accept bitcoin lose investor confidence holding that token,

they simply sell bitcoin, this way bitcoin dipps deeper and deeper same with bitcoin cash,

it starts even a death spiral.

indexmafia that lifts bitcoin above all others with their asymetric index, then will lose a lot of trust, since their ultimate "coin" becomes a shitcoin which was a title they used to denounce other digital assets.

regards
3263  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's prepare for the worst on: December 22, 2018, 07:03:32 AM
You are right the real recovery will come after all this crash in price as it has happen before and the saying that state that nothing good comes easy is at play after all this crisis and the trouble the good days will come, but to predict when and how is what we can not say because since the market is highly volatile it makes it unpredictable.

i am afraid bitcoin is becoming a shitcoin the entire world will laugh at.

a big problem is the death spiral caused by loss in investor confidence, combined with retailers eaning and selling it.

regards
3264  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's prepare for the worst on: December 22, 2018, 06:46:56 AM
Let's all be prepared ,the way I'm seeing things I think bitcoin hasn't find its bottom yet ,I'm guessing around 2500$ before we see better recovery ,always remember cryptocurrency is never for the weak ,be prepared and do what you do best ,things will surely turn around but good things never comes easily .

So you think a 2500 USD price is "the worst"?Are you kidding me?Last week,many people here were predicting a 1500 USD price at the end of the year,I don't even think that a 1500 USD price is something bad.
Just don't be so pesimistic.Haters will always hate,fudsters will always FUD.

jes thats true bitcoin can very well go even below 1500 usd again
3265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think WAVES will have their place in top 10 during the 2019? on: December 22, 2018, 06:42:36 AM
It pushed into top 20, it has secured $120 million in funding for integration of its Vostok private blockchain into government an institutional IT systems.
If we look at the project's roadmap, getting into top 10 next years seems challenging, but not unrealistic.
What are the chances for them to make it?

well jes it could go up, but only in top 10 if the pow trash in there takes a serious hit.

i must add in the end waves is just an encription service. its only you speculator idiots that pump it up, and there are hodlers waiting for you to buy already.
3266  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: fake news: bankenstresstest zeigt kritische situation einiger banken on: December 22, 2018, 06:37:32 AM
hallo,
hab doch nochmal vor weihnachten reingeschaut.
das hoechtes gericht hier in chile hat den banken recht gegeben, die die konten von den kryptoboersen zugemacht haben.
https://www.emol.com/noticias/Economia/2018/12/04/929635/Golpe-a-las-criptomonedas-en-Chile-Suprema-avala-cierre-de-cuentas-en-BancoEstado.html

https://www.df.cl/noticias/mercados/divisas/la-suprema-le-da-un-portazo-a-las-operadoras-de-criptomonedas-y-avala/2018-12-04/104627.html

mir haben sie auch alle meine konten geschlossen.
wenn dir ein privatmensch oder firma was wegnimmt, ermittelt der staatsanwalt. wenn dir hier eine bank was wegnimmt, dann macht der staatanwalt nichts.

alles geld, das ich auf dem konto hatte, hat sich damit aufgeloest.

ich muss aber auch dazu sagen, dass ich nicht vor habe, den ueberziehungskredit bei einer anderen bank zu bezahlen.
damit haben sie sich also auch ins eigene fleisch geschnitten.

nur ich muss jetzt schauen, wie ich es ohne mache und das ist noch nicht sehr einfach.



banken+juristerei = kommunistische diktatur.

ist scheis egal was sie zu dem thema sagen, die banken sollen ein kartel aufrecht erhalten und die junge bevölkerung dem besitzbürgertum als geldverdienendes vieh ausliefern.

gruß
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3268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's prepare for the worst on: December 22, 2018, 06:15:18 AM
Let's all be prepared ,the way I'm seeing things I think bitcoin hasn't find its bottom yet ,I'm guessing around 2500$ before we see better recovery ,always remember cryptocurrency is never for the weak ,be prepared and do what you do best ,things will surely turn around but good things never comes easily .
The worst scenario already happened when Bitcoin price dropped from its all time high down to under $4000. And how can you say that it will continue to drop to $2500? do you have any reason that might affect the price to go down on that price range? Because you can't just say that without any reason like other people here that starts a new discussion about what will happen to the price without any proof or analysis. And also anyone can make an analysis or speculation but there is no guarantee that it will happen.

well i have a reason:

millions of altcoins and digital assets that can be alternatively used and transacted, with even a much better tech basis than bitcoin
3269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's prepare for the worst on: December 22, 2018, 05:51:48 AM
throwing random numbers is always easy. analyzing and giving a proper speculation is hard.

you have a fading away social support, everyone wants to create money, like nakamoto did, its not a "bear market" like you want to believe and want everyone else to belive.

only thing that focuses bitcoin for investment is the corrupt indexmafia, without it people would have created already much bigger token.

its the indexmafia that is still securing bitcoins value nothing else.

its just a pow cult and one with increasingly less support, 2.5k is just the step towards 0

bitcoin will end up as the AOL/Netscape of crypto, and other failed experiments.

we will return to organic money again, created by institutions, question is who will run those, and how, and will it be possible to standardise those.

regards
3270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / since more than 60 years on: December 22, 2018, 02:38:10 AM
the entire world has been educated to calculate their entire economic evaluation and success in usd,

and that was madness, it gets serious issues. now with crypto.

people will not think in bitcoin or in euro, they will think more like who do i help with earning this token.

it will be democracy with money and work.
3271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Switzerland is launching its national crypto-currency( E-franc) on: December 22, 2018, 02:35:02 AM
The fact that more and more countries are going positive with the blockchain technology is real great news! More and more countries nowadays wanted to be the center of the crypto investments hub. This means that crypto is a real thing. Just give bitcoin a year and I think it will bull again.



it wont be positive for many if the communists start outlawing the private open market, because they cant find enough money earning cattle for the currency they have created
3272  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would a country ever support a decentralized cryptocurrency? on: December 22, 2018, 02:30:02 AM
in reality all issuers of currencies are in zero sum competition against each other,

so a communal authority would of course always put their own currency over others,

but in some cases they support,

like for example russia, that knows exactly that crypocurrencies will vastly weaken its adversaries (usa, china, eu)
3273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will SEC approve BITCOIN ETF ? on: December 22, 2018, 02:19:14 AM
Smiley Smiley Smiley
If Sec accept Bitcoin ETF , we can expect the huge bull run for the market .
What do you think ? Will Sec accept bitcoin ETF ?

considering the massive losses last year i would say ->never
3274  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A world without borders? on: December 22, 2018, 02:14:20 AM
At present time when worlds are already been divided by different areas in which country has area of responsibility, so world wothout borders really is good enough because it will show unity but there are really people who are greedy to powers and will try to rule everone so that is why every country will have borders ,to have each own government.



If I was a Muslim strategist seeking a medium term tactic for world dominion, I would certainly advocate "open borders," for the WESTERN NATIONS. Then I'd be certain that Saudi and other key Muslim nations did not have open borders.

How about that. That's exactly what's happening.

it will rebalance itself,

the end of central banks will spark the meaning of family businesses, and russian orthodox church is powering a surplus population growth in russia, so it will change. it was only temprorary during the perfectionistic atheism area in europe/usa after WW2
3275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tom Lee's final analysis of the year on: December 22, 2018, 02:10:36 AM
Oh yeah, that was Charlie lol. So wtf is Tom Lee and why do people here care what he says?

I'd love to meet anyone who could tell us that. He seems to have appeared out of nowhere spouting irrelevant bonkersdom. If he had some previous crypto track record to draw on it would be one thing, but there doesn't appear to be a bean. Hopefully he'll go off and follow his true passion after all this.

i tell these are just default employees of media enterpreneuers, they have no real heavyweights like vitalik,

people like vitalik are very careful what they are saying.
3276  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tom Lee's final analysis of the year on: December 22, 2018, 01:54:08 AM
I stopped listening to anything he had to say along with taking litecoin seriously when he announced he sold all his litecoin. I have absolutely no idea why people here keep talking about him.
Actions speak louder than words, he exited out of all his crypto at a great time, people who followed his lead vs listened to his horseshit predictions came out very well.

That was Charlie Lee. And he's certainly much more worth a listen than this Lee. He called the top and may have called the bottom too. And he did it without a parade of failed 'predictions'.

Who cares what he does with his own coins? At least he was open enough to talk about it and why he did it.

Oh yeah, that was Charlie lol. So wtf is Tom Lee and why do people here care what he says?

wanted also just ask the question, i think we are mainly influenced just by some media enterpreneuers, who only do media enterpreneurism and have no idea what they are talking about, and no expert is ever talking with them, or wants to talk with them, since cryptoenterpreneuers are very carefully about what they are saying. especially if they are serious about their project.

vitalik buterin's sentences are basically like imperial to them.

we will have to deal with that since they will not have any personalities influencing cryptomedia anytime soon.

regards
3277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin SV caused mid november bitcoin collapse? on: December 22, 2018, 01:42:51 AM
look i hope cryptoindexmafia reads this here:

probably better you hope they dont.
you do realise in all my wall of test in first reply i never named the altcoin.
yet you have made a topic naming them and in each most named it again. and again

the website crpto index picks up on discussions about certain things and if a coin is named multiple times it gets flagged as being potentially popular.

so the more you mention it the worse it gets toward what you actually want. which is for it to fizzle out.
so stop talking about it.

Just in that months, we see how 200,000 btc moves. Theories say

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

109,232.32987556 BTC

So, as i say, was multiple factors together.  or as I say, it rains over wet floor.
the movement of those coins is nothing new. it happens many months of the year. but when some who only has a few $$ to their name sees hundred of millions move. the shock, sends them into a spiral of needing to talk about it.

its like right now apple moves huge sums. but if some person managed to record one of apples regular payments. and then asks about it on reddit.. suddenly a storm of speculation chatter begins about apple doing something big or apple must be moving country or other twaddle. when infact thats just apples staff grocery bill for the week

those funds were nothing special. its just one newbie got over excited seeing a large transaction for THEIR first time and thought it must be something news worthy. those funds were just an exchange re-organising their reserves like they do regularly.. thus its about as news worthy as a janitor coming into an office to sweep the office floor

i doubt these guys will survive the negative consequences that are happening in the market,
market will rip them appart, bitcoin sv (cashing out speculators) will be another disappointment damaging their legacy.

i don't trust them and i dont believe they want or are able to develop structures into the cryptoindustry just cash out speculators.

so i am not afraid pointing out being in conflict with them. i simply came to late, with cpro, the tolerance to add cryptoprojects changed quickly it was once much easier to list stuff than nowadays.

the fact that ripple will soon become rank 1 cryptocurrency in their index (after bitcoin collapse) will make it worldwide visible that current asymetric cryptorating is 100 about us dollar based corruption.
3278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin SV caused mid november bitcoin collapse? on: December 22, 2018, 01:33:54 AM
nobody is targeting anything. there are always people who want to earn money from bitcoin and its popularity. some choose to invest in it, some others want to earn a lot more  and do things such as using its reputation to make money like a parasite. bitcoin-sv was the later. it was created so that they could make a lot of money in a very short time although they also have long term plans to milk this.

all the while there are others who are looking for an opportunity to buy cheaper bitcoins and drama has always been what they loved. the market also reacts positively to this type of incidents. hence the price drop.

Theories say it was miners getting out of the business, but that means $1000 million out of the market. I can't find the second transaction but this was the first one:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1ee11c8a24c9244f14c4d5a9c3670c13664f4ae8f7738c31b4f21221a5bdfbd1

you could have said that only if those coins were actually newly generated coins that are gained from finding a block not regular transactions which look like an exchange hot wallet!

you guys will fail, you dont create substance, you simply try to cash out stupid speculators, bitcoin sv's design is practiallcy looking to me that it is just targeting east asian speculators.

start building substance, or you will lose everything build so far.
3279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin SV caused mid november bitcoin collapse? on: December 22, 2018, 01:09:57 AM
what was the role of the cryptoindex mafia listening bitcoin sv directly into the top of the index?

for the same reason as you and many others.
even though there are 2000 coins..

because you gave a crap. because others gave a crap.. it brought attention to the crap.
if no one tweeted about or talked about the crap. then more people would see it as crap
not caring about the crap and it would have not gotten any attention

i dont mean you give a crap as in you care about it.
i mean even now a month later your stil talking about something and asking questions about it.

is the market still unaware about that scam they are running?

even scams remain alive as long as people advertise it and it then shows pump and dump profitability.
thus self perpetually reviving itself the more its talked about.
best option is dont talk about it dont get curious about it, and let it fizzle out


look i hope cryptoindexmafia reads this here:

cashing out on speculators with regulary new listed coins will not develop cryptoindustry anyhow, you have to build structures, people can trust in. i opened a threat in project development regarding that.

all bitcoinsv speculators will lose and fail same like, bitcoin cash, bitcoin, bitcoin gold, bitcoin diamond, zcash and dash speculators, since its just fundamentaly making money out of hoping speculators.

sooner or later you will lose so much trust that you will have no option but to start working serious.

bitcoin SV -> will be fail.
3280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Main thing keeping bitcoin still allive on: December 22, 2018, 01:06:53 AM

ah ok at least a honest one.
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