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3261  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka - churches and hotel. on: April 21, 2019, 07:26:58 PM
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All the videos about this terror attack immediately had "They are not real Muslims" and "Hindus did it" comments flooding them. Denial. You can't solve the problem if you refuse to face it and right now Islam have a BIG problem.

35,000 Islamic terror attacks since 9/11, and there are still large numbers of people who do not "get it."

They hear about one, think how tragic it is, then forget about it with a barrage of "newer news" that they are supposed to think about.

Then, predictably, the next terror attack occurs...
3262  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka - churches and hotel. on: April 21, 2019, 07:22:18 PM
,....The terrorist has no religion ....

The NTJ is a radical Muslim group

Funny how terrorism has no religion until they can find a way to call them Christian, even superficially.

Or the quickness that people rise up to say "Terrorists have no religion!"

Obviously facts dispute that.
3263  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence on: April 21, 2019, 07:20:46 PM
answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King
B: Muslim King

Neither.
3264  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NK State media: NK tested a "tactical guided weapon" on: April 21, 2019, 07:19:37 PM
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The DPRK government does not act the same way the US government acts, not by a large margin. NK doesn't go to war, so it doesn't have to pretend it goes to great lengths to prevent civilian casualties. Wars, and military conflicts the DPRK has been involved in over the past century have had the goal of defending itself from American invasion and occupation...

It's well understood that the unprovoked war by NK on SK in 1950 had as its goal unifying Korea as one communist nation.

You are talking about a conflict that should have only been a civil conflict within Korea and not a world war where the US tries to dictate what happens on the other side of the world.  To state "unprovoked" so matter of factly makes me believe you have no bothered to look into the details.  I invite you to take a deeper, more precise look into the history for historical context.  I know most people won't care to learn about the detailed history of the situation (or they would have already?) but I will put it out here for you anyway.  


First, you need to learn about the People's republic of Korea, the first post-war government, established according to the will of the Korean people at the end of Japanese rule, and rejected by the US who wanted to control the fate of Korea themselves.  They placed South Korea under the authoritarian rule of an American general and suppressed the people's repubic.  
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Appointed as military governor, Hodge directly controlled South Korea as head of the United States Army Military Government in Korea (USAMGIK 1945–48).[75] He attempted to establish control by restoring Japanese colonial administrators to power, but in the face of Korean protests quickly reversed this decision.[76] The USAMGIK refused to recognize the provisional government of the short-lived People's Republic of Korea (PRK) due to its suspected Communist sympathies.
In the South,  localized governing committees were outlawed and PRK political leaders were imprisoned, murdered or suppressed in some way.
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The idea was not popular among Koreans and riots broke out.[62] To contain them, the USAMGIK banned strikes on 8 December 1945 and outlawed the PRK Revolutionary Government and the PRK People's Committees on 12 December 1945.[79] Following further large-scale civilian unrest,[80] the USAMGIK declared martial law.
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The military governor Lieutenant-General John R. Hodge refused to recognize the PRK and its People's Committees, and outlawed it on 12 December.[4]:p.57 He later stated, "one of our missions was to break down this Communist government".[6]:p.202 On July 19, 1947, Lyuh Woon-hyung was assassinated by a right-wing Korean.[4]:p.65
The US mission was to assert its will in Korea and its right there in that quote.  The people did not want this.  You can't just skip over all of this and talk about the puppet regime.  


Meanwhile in the North...

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When Soviet troops entered Pyongyang on August 24, 1945, they found a local People's Committee established there, led by veteran Christian nationalist Cho Man-sik.[4]:p.54–57 Unlike their American counterparts, the Soviet authorities recognized and worked with the People's Committees[5]:pp.105–107[6]:p.227–228 By some accounts, Cho Man-sik was the Soviet government's first choice to lead North Korea.

Up until 1950, there were still Koreans fighting for their country in the South, and the North knew this and wanted to liberate the South to unite the country.  Keep in mind, it was one Korea before the US divided it.   Kim Il Sung tried to peacefully unite the country through elections but puppet Rhee was not having it
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On 7 June 1950, Kim Il-sung called for a Korea-wide election on 5–8 August 1950 and a consultative conference in Haeju on 15–17 June 1950. On 11 June, the North sent three diplomats to the South as a peace overture that Rhee rejected outright.[

Before calling the preemptive strike "unprovoked,  have to consider who Rhee was, how he came to power, and what is intentions were.
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President Harry Truman installed Syngman Rhee as dictator. South Korea’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission recently estimated that Rhee killed from 100,000 to 200,000 political prisoners.

Rhee bragged about invading the North. “South Korea’s neurotic right-wing government leaders clamor stridently for United States help to ‘unify’ Korea — that is, for the South to conquer the North,” wrote Andrew Roth in the Nation magazine (Aug. 23, 1949).

Truman emissary John Foster Dulles went to South Korea five days before the war erupted. Dulles had been managing partner of Sullivan & Cromwell, the Rockefellers’ law firm and would become President Dwight Eisenhower’s secretary of state.

Dulles egged on Rhee, who had constantly launched attacks on the North. A half-billion dollars had been lavished on the South Korean puppet army and it was expected to roll over the North.
The US had no business intervening but the truth is that American capitalists were so butthurt about the "loss of china"  (as if china belonged to them in the first place) that they had to make an example of the next country that tried to control its own destiny.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_of_China
It sounds so absurd that if I didn't know any better, I'd think the notion was made up by anti-americans, but it really is an accurate portrayal of how US policy felt about a certain side winning a civil war on the other side of the planet.  

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Since 1950 the difference in economic growth of the two Koreas is breathtaking.


You mean since 1976?  Another key detail you either didn't know or choose to omit in order to sound more convincing.  North Korea was more economically advanced than South Korea for 25 years and didn't stagnate until the 80s.  So many people form such strong opinions with so little information and without even bothering to look into context.

Actually I can and am ignoring your drivel and that is justified because I'm only looking at the economic picture.

A bit more of that, from the same reference.

North Korea operates under a tightly controlled command or planned economy, which is often labeled an unreformed dictatorial economy.

South Korea, which is a mixed economy, has seen significant growth, putting it in the top 20 countries by GDP in the world.

Some more interesting facts.

https://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/south-korea.north-korea
Men live to average age 79 in NK, 66 in SK. Female 86 to 75. Infant mortality, SK 3.0/1000 NK 22/1000.
Severely underweight children < 5 years of age SK 0.7%, NK 15%

Got a few problems there with your commie paradise, buddy?
3265  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka - churches and hotel. on: April 21, 2019, 05:23:35 PM
,....The terrorist has no religion ....

The NTJ is a radical Muslim group
3266  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NK State media: NK tested a "tactical guided weapon" on: April 21, 2019, 05:22:25 PM
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The DPRK government does not act the same way the US government acts, not by a large margin. NK doesn't go to war, so it doesn't have to pretend it goes to great lengths to prevent civilian casualties. Wars, and military conflicts the DPRK has been involved in over the past century have had the goal of defending itself from American invasion and occupation...

It's well understood that the unprovoked war by NK on SK in 1950 had as its goal unifying Korea as one communist nation.

Since 1950 the difference in economic growth of the two Koreas is breathtaking.

South Korea's economy has surpassed that of its neighbor to the north many times over. North Korea's GDP was estimated to be $40 billion in 2015, while that of South Korea was $1.92 trillion for the same period. South Korea's GDP per capita in 2015 was estimated to be $37,600, while North Korea's was $1,700. South Korea’s trade volume was a gigantic $1.07 trillion in 2013. By comparison, North Korea reported a relatively minuscule $7.3 billion.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/040515/north-korean-vs-south-korean-economies.asp
3267  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka - churches and hotel. on: April 21, 2019, 05:05:00 PM
....now multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka. Perpetrators targeted 3 hotels and 3 churches  when they were holding Easter services this morning. At least 160 died and more than 500 people Injured in this heinous attack.

As of now no group took responsibility for this attack and according to news Srilanka authorities didn't gave any official statement and details regarding investigation.

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Time after time, Muslim extremists seek world wide news coverage, and to do this they must make every atrocity worse than the last.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/7-suspects-arrested-in-sri-lanka-over-easter-sunday-bombings/

Ten days before the attacks, Sri Lanka’s police chief issued a nationwide alert warning top officers that suicide bombers planned to target “prominent churches,” according to the warning seen by AFP.

“A foreign intelligence agency has reported that the NTJ (National Thowheeth Jama’ath) is planning to carry out suicide attacks targeting prominent churches as well as the Indian high commission in Colombo,” said the alert, which was sent by police chief Pujuth Jayasundara to senior police officials.

The NTJ is a radical Muslim group in Sri Lanka that came to notice last year when it was linked to the vandalization of Buddhist statues.
3268  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why We Need Women In Blockchain on: April 21, 2019, 04:54:29 PM

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Only 18K subs?  Smiley



Here's another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e91DluTnbMU
3269  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence on: April 21, 2019, 02:52:23 PM

One major factor that constitutes violence is clash of religious beliefs. So many has lost husband, wives, sisters, brothers, children, friends and loved ones due to attacks bored by religious beliefs.

   How can we stop clashes of religious beliefs
Be you a Christian, Muslim etc or even of no believe one major way to coexist together is upholding mutual respect
Most time we fined our self being a fan of a particular believe than actually being religious or practising that believe that why the burning hate for others who don't share the same believe is strong.

I am a Christian by believe but free-spirited by ideology I reside in a place predominantly occupied by Muslims but I have survived here by not enforcing my religious thoughts on others and share understanding......

Your own words say it all.
3270  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 21, 2019, 02:39:53 PM
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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 18, 2019, 09:19:18 PM
Mueller's report established multiple links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government... they were working towards the same goal and both benefited from working together!

Collusion delusion for sure...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/buzzfeed-collusion-bombshell-not-looking-so-good-following-release-of-mueller-report

BuzzFeed News’ supposed “bombshell” alleging President Trump instructed his former personal attorney to lie to Congress has been effectively debunked following the release of the special counsel report Thursday morning.

There were already major problems with the BuzzFeed News story, most especially that special counsel Robert Mueller’s office itself issued an extremely rare public statement claiming the report was not “accurate.”

But Buzzfeed stuck to its guns. And now that the public has access to a redacted version of the findings of the shuttered two-year investigation, which included 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants, and 500 witness interviews, it seems all but certain that the BuzzFeed News “scoop” is, in fact, false.
3271  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 21, 2019, 01:17:02 PM
The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!
The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html


Actually, not so weird at all. Given how many Republicans hated Trump.

Here's Romney's anti-Trump speed from during the campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iefXdC794I

Here's a more balanced take on these issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0ze9d72_U

3272  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 4/20 reform on: April 21, 2019, 01:09:51 PM
Give people who misbehave money. Yeah, that's brilliant (sarcasm).

3273  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 21, 2019, 01:07:25 PM
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How can anyone know what you really are if you say you are a peaceful Muslim? ....

I have no problem with throwing a net of suspicion, and careful examination, over all those who attend mosques where radical clerics "teach."
3274  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A message from the future with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on: April 21, 2019, 12:44:39 PM
The stupidity she brought onto the table is on a whole other level, same for the other "fresh faces" of the democratic party. They are what i would call clickbait in a human form. They spew bs that has literally no way of coming to fruition nor is it thought through or consistent. People like her is the reason Trumps gona win again lol

Exactly, after planting a fantastic vision in peoples' heads, and after getting elected, then it's the same old song with new players.

This is also called politicians lying.

Simpe as that.
3275  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 20, 2019, 08:39:36 PM
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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on November 30, 2018, 08:37:25 AM
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When Mueller is done with his report we will all see if the moron pussy grabber was conspiring with a hostile foreign nation to defraud the American people and their most sacred rights (a fair election).

Just look at this last week or so.  Mueller strung Trump along allowing Manafort's double agent attempt giving Trump just enough rope to hang himself....

Once the questions came back, Mueller put a bullet in Manafort's deal because he already knew what Manafort was up too!  Also not a coincidence after the questions came back and Manafort's deal was killed, Cohen's deal is brought, Manafort and by extension Pussy Grabeber didn't know about this deal or what info Cohen had already given Mueller.

Kushner and Jr should be nervous.....

Once the Mueller report is out and it can't be denied that Trump was compromised by the Russians....

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Well, The Mueller report is out, and not a single American has been indicted for conspiring with the Russians....

Would you like a MAGA hat?

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on April 18, 2019, 09:19:18 PM
Mueller's report established multiple links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government... they were working towards the same goal and both benefited from working together!

Collusion delusion for sure...



Here's a post that you likely can't delete, although it might make your brain hurt. So maybe delete it.

But in the digital world, nothing is really lost. Here's the problem with your paranoid scheme of refuge. You have to reconcile everything Julian Assange said, and did, and his timeline, with that of Russia, and Trump.

Good luck with that.
3276  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 20, 2019, 08:37:12 PM
... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Smiley

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

This is also something a president trying to resist a coup might do...

True, but I'm still unable to unravel the phrase "hundreds of years of accepted protocol" as it relates to the situation.

The closest I can come is to consider the way Democrats and DC insiders tried to execute a coup. That certainly has not been accepted protocol, at least in the US of A.
3277  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 20, 2019, 04:00:13 PM
All terrorists have their reasons...I don't know where you are, but theres a good chance some other type of people once lived on your land and I doubt you would be so understanding if they came in and killed your family to take their land back. 

Randomly you might say something true, but not yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezPzOrcf7QE
3278  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 20, 2019, 03:50:17 PM
... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Smiley

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

It's not irrelevant, unless the unstated, poorly implied meaning behind "hundreds of years of accepted protocol" can be bent to make your point.

I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies.

This is a very puzzling opinion of yours, given that the subject is politics and political administration.  I'm reminded of Jimmy Carter bringing all his cronies to Washington, but it's not just him. And  conversely, Trump has put many, many people in place that certainly are not his "business cronies."

leaving that aside, maybe you can explain this? What is a "Cronie?"

Leaving that aside and looking at "fully manning the USA government with competent experts," I'm all for it. When do we start firing all the incompetent idiots now in the USA government?
3279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 20, 2019, 03:26:17 PM

Learn history. .... The entire world has been permanently victimized.  People also forget the crusades.  ...

You mean we've forgotten the Crusades were to take back lands invaded by Muslims?

Learn history...
3280  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 20, 2019, 12:22:25 PM
... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Smiley
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