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3281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 25, 2023, 05:57:05 PM
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Imo, Real Madrid silence indicates that they have reached an internal agreement with Mbappe side, Mbappe attitude of not wanting to extend his contract with PSG has a relationship with Real Madrid silence. Real Madrid prefers to bring in Mbappe for free rather than having to spend money to make up for Mbappe very expensive release clause.

With PSG getting into a big financial hole with the FFP, if they don't sell Mbappe, then I would say that the price of him should drop quite a lot. There are 6 days left until the 31st (when PSG must pay Mbappe a loyalty bonus of 40 million). And obviously this is the best offcut to sell Mbappe. So we continue to wait for news  Roll Eyes
3282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 25, 2023, 05:48:00 PM
Some easy games in the third preliminary round of Champions League qualification games,strong teams like Fc Copenhagen which has been often in the group stages face somewhat new emerging challengers yet the odds are great for such team at 1.70 as they would most likely win this game.The same can be said for another team who has been a lot of times in the group stages but that has been missing from some time now,Galatasaray plays against Zalgiris the Lithuanian Champion and I don't think they will have any problem either winning at 1.55 odd so these games are free money makers in my opinion.

Yes, if you focus on the "brand" then the results in many pairs look obvious and there is a great desire to bet. What stops me is that in fact I don't know anything about the real game of these teams now - maybe the dark horse is actually stronger? Do bookmakers set odds based on the crowd that looks at the brand? It seems to me that it is worth waiting for the group stage and not taking the risk now (or bet on outsiders as they can be greatly underestimated).
3283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 25, 2023, 05:41:08 PM
I have been watching the match between PSG and al nassr. The result was unbelievable. PSG was not even able making a single goal against al nassr. Im feeling skeptical with the new squad of PSG. It seems like that this squad will be even weaker compared with last season's squad.
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I was expecting a similar result:

~I can assume that given the close ties between PSG and Saudi Arabia, the score in this friendly game will be more decent. Something like 3-4 in favor of PSG or even 3-3.

But I thought that there would be at least a show and a few goals scored. But the teams decided not to strain (however, I did not see the game).
As for the prospects of PSG, I think they will easily win Ligue 1, and will perform in the Champions League no worse than in the previous 2 years when they played with Messi (elimination in 1/8).
3284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 25, 2023, 05:33:32 PM
Although this match cannot be used as a benchmark but still, playing against Spal, which is also the fact that Spal is only a mediocre team which playing in Serie B. Then of course, Napoli should be able to win in this match, but Napoli only got a 1-1 draw. Meanwhile, the fact is that Napoli can still play Osimhen but still, Osimhen also seems unable to do much in this match to score goals and make Napoli win. Spal is also not a good team in Serie B and in fact, Spal also only finished in the relegation zone last season in Serie B standing. With such a big difference in quality, Napoli shouldn't only get a 1-1 draw against Spal in this match, quite disappointing.

On the 20th of July they played Anaun and won 6-1, so I don't think we can talk about any downward trend in performance. On the 29th they play another weak club, this time from Turkey - Hatayspor. Therefore, I think that a large score can be expected. However, I would like to see games with serious opponents.
3285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: July 25, 2023, 02:23:33 PM
One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place  Grin
As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.
3286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 25, 2023, 02:12:28 PM
Indeed, to win back to back titles in Serie A is very difficult and one of the clubs that has managed to do that is Juventus. I think Milan are not completely bad after winning the Scudetto that season and as long as they can finish in the top 4 I think that is a very good achievement for the club. Apart from that, Milan still maintains a slot into the champions league zone and it is also a dream for its players to be in every season in Europe's highest competition.

Another thing like competing to win the Scudetto again is their goal for next season and we can see they are very serious about spending on players this time and there are more than 4 players they have managed to bring in so far. I think Milan can take advantage of the current situation and remember that Napoli may not be as consistent as last season.

If we simply count the points scored by the clubs and do not take into account the "games of corrupt officials", then Milan took only 5th place at the end of last season. Undoubtedly, this is a complete failure after the first place. And as I understand it, the management assessed the results of the season in this way, which is why Milan has now spent more than 100 million on transfers.
3287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: July 25, 2023, 02:04:25 PM
We certainly don't know how the streamer plays gambling. Either he uses his own account or uses someone else's account or even the casino provides an account for him so he can stream his gambling games. We only know based on what we see and what they do. And that was enough for them to entice people to join and even use their referral link. And those of us who watch it shouldn't easily follow what they say, and if we want to join a casino, it's best to find a trusted casino and don't follow the streamer if you don't know him well.

You should always do your research, even if the streamer advertises a reliable and honest casino. The problem may be that, for example, he is from country A, in which the advertised casino has no problems, and you are from country B, in which the casino has problems/restrictions for citizens of this country. Thus, if you do not check the compliance of the casino just for you, you can get into an unpleasant situation.
3288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: July 25, 2023, 02:00:11 PM
Yes, this is a garbage tournament and even its format is completely garbage - no one will look at a tournament stretched out over a couple of years. The bad news is that this tournament is not "isolated" but affects other important events like the Euro. And the ticket distribution format for the losers also causes great annoyance - to understand it, I studied Wikipedia for about 15 minutes and also read comments on other sites. I do not understand how it was possible to come up with this stupid format with three paths.

I agree with you guys on UEFA Nations League. It is a garbage tournament and needs to be shelved. If they want, they can expand the Euro Cup. But the Nations League is pure rubbish. Anyway, how can we even follow a tournament that is spread out across two years? And what is the need for such a tournament when we have the Euro Cup? If they still want to retain the Nations League, then they should change the format to super-cup (i.e all the matches being playoffs with no group stage), and complete the tournament in one to two weeks.

It is extended over 2 years. If, for example, some team is in League B, then it must first get into League A, then win the group and only then win the playoffs. As I understand it will take 4 years. If we are talking about a team from League C, then we are talking about 6 years. For example, Greece, which was the European champion, is now in the C League. Broken format.
3289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: July 25, 2023, 01:50:15 PM
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Bonus selections are made in some special google form or here in the thread? Is the deadline the same as for the pool - August 13th?

And another question on the mechanics of scoring - if I guessed the exact score, then I get 4 points for it + 3 points for the correct goal difference + 2 for the correct tendency? Or 4 is the maximum?
3290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 24, 2023, 10:07:58 PM
I was read this news too that PSG has been confirmed that they were receive the offers from Saudi Arabian club Al Hilal for Mbappe for 300 millions today and this is very fantastic bid which is never happend before and it's very interesting to know how Mbappe and PSG will respond to this offer whether he will accept that offer and Mbappe will playing at Al Hilal instead of Real Madrid or Mbappe will refuse it because he still want to playing at european club but Mbappe is very talented player and playing at Saudi Pro League will be a career downgrade for him so most likely he will reject that offer but for PSG this is good opportunity to sell Mbappe with expensive price because possibly this offer will come only once and rather than let him with free transfer next season maybe it's better to sell him immediately

300 million in this case is a trifle, since even for Kane, who, like Mbappe, has a year of contract left, they ask for 100 million. You probably missed the main shocking part of this offer - Mbappe will receive 700 million for a year of playing and then just go to Real Madrid (or wherever he wants). To be honest, it's hard to believe this, but that's the news.
3291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 24, 2023, 09:43:32 PM
If Madrid gets Mbappe they will surely be better, but at the same time Madrid has amazing finances, not spending crazy amount of money like City does, and even when they get a player, they sell some others to cover the difference and earn money to make up for it as well.

This is why I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be making sure that Real has a better future, it is not just about this season, it's about the long term and they are doing fine for the long term without a doubt. They do need a striker and Mbappe would be great for that but no need to get him right now, they can get him next season as well, would be long term but financially smart decision to do that. Other teams just throw money at the issue.

If we compare Real and City, then Real is of course smart money, and City is a brazen cheater who tries to buy everything he can reach. But if you look objectively, I would not say that the future of Real Madrid is guaranteed to be better than that of City - there is simply more money in the Premier League, even if you remove the "dirty" money from there, then I think that the Premier League will still be seriously ahead. That is why Real wants to go beyond its "cage" and create the Super League.
3292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers Belief on: July 24, 2023, 09:38:37 PM
If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

I don't agree with this. I saw many people who started a loss-making business (this was evident even in theoretical calculations), but for some reason they believed that luck would smile on them and they would get rich. Or even those whose business for some reason became unprofitable, but they refused to accept this reality and "get off a dead horse." People are often irrational and this manifests itself not only in gambling but in all areas of our lives.
3293  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Got scamed by Stake on: July 24, 2023, 09:32:16 PM
According to your screenshot, You bet on NY with -22.5 handicap while the result of the game is 101-83 which your bet is lose since NY didn’t cover the -22.5 points difference. Your bet is a handicap pick and not a Match winner. You should be familiar on bet picks before you start wagering money on gambling.

Thank you for not being afraid (unlike me) to click on a link with a strange address (at least for me it is an unfamiliar address) and for making this comment! He made a bet and didn’t even understand what outcome he bet on and immediately ran to complain after he didn’t receive his “win”. Damn, and those "don't play on any site anymore" comments of his  Grin
This is the funniest thing I've read in the last month  Grin
3294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: July 24, 2023, 09:24:30 PM
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What is Gambling Abuse?
Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
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Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?
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You have built a very strange theory in which you have chosen a certain definition of gambling that suits your views. But firstly, other people may have different views, and secondly, if you look historically, then your views are definitely wrong, because initially gambling was based on the desire to win money and only on this. The cultural aspect of "playing just for fun" came much later and not everyone even now follows it. Therefore, I would say that your theory is divorced from reality and it is difficult for me to discuss it.
3295  Local / Разное / Re: Форум недоступен из России on: July 24, 2023, 09:12:58 PM
Большое спасибо за ссылку, поробую оттуда установить настраиваемую версию.
Только вот я одного не пойму (вопрос не к вам, а чисто риторический): почему эта версия находится не в разделе https://protonvpn.com/download-windows а в разделе support где далеко не каждый сможет ее найти? И вообще насколько же надо быть ебанутым разработчиком ВПН чтобы "придумать" версию которая подключается автоматом без захода в интерфейс программы (и при неудаче просто шлет нахрен)? Я может быть чего-то не понимаю, но это что-то из разряда прибора ночного видения на солнечных батарейках.
Еще раз повторю, пользователи из "неблагополучных" в плане блокировки VPN стран - это клиенты второго сорта, от них только проблемы, жалобы и мало прибыли. Никто не будет менять алгоритмы в приложении, никто не будет делать вразумительную документацию о настройке VPN, никто не будет заморачиваться: главное, чтобы основные источники прибыли оставались довольными, что им не надо даже думать о настройке или ручном включении программы. Все больше убеждаюсь, что VPN провайдеоы и их "обходы блокировок и анонимность" - это не более, чем красивые слова и маркетинг для максимизации профита. Реальные проблемы они не хотят и не способны решить, им легче перестать с вами сотрудничать, чем пошевелить задницей для улучшения сервиса.

Хз, для меня это неочевидно. Я вижу как куча рфян (и видимо много других жителей стран "с особенностями") мечутся от одного решения к другому, причем они готовы платить. Тот кто создаст стабильное решение очевидно займет рынок. Тут уже к мысли можно прийти что операторы ВПН работают "на два фронта" - у диктаторов то бабла побольше будет и они его не считают, так что не удивлюсь если они и у них бабосики берут (понятно зачем).
3296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 24, 2023, 12:12:19 PM
Pre season match Real Madrid 3 vs 2 AC Milan

Nice result for first pre season match Real Madrid after success winning against AC Milan, first starting eleven Real Madrid played with full main player after several recruitment from Jude Bellingham, Brahim Diaz and Joselu played in the first minute. Have winning mentality its important key how Madrid success won from AC Milan although first half have conceded two goals. Federico Valverde success coring two goals and Vinicius Jr played on second half success contribution one goal and Madrid win for the first pre season match.

Carlo Ancelotti give chance for all players exactly with new signing get first minutes play, almost them need time for adapting and Joselu have to show his capacity as Real Madrid's foward.

Real Madrid continue to train comebacks  Grin To win 3-2 after the score was 2-0 in favor of the opponent is "nothing special" for them  Cool
This is probably a good result for Milan too, because with all due respect, Real and Milan are now at different levels. Of course, this is all taking into account the fact that friendly games do not mean much and do not differ much from internal training games.
3297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 24, 2023, 12:05:55 PM
Al Nassr in the 2 friendly games in which Al Nassr played against teams from Europe had humiliating defeats, first they lost against celta de vigo by 5 - 0, in a game in which Al Nassr did not manage to score at least one goal, in the second game they lost against benfica in a game in which they only scored 1 goal but conceded 4 goals, with these results Al Nassr conceded 9 goals in just 2 games and scored 1 goal only and from now on 2 two days Al Nassr will play against PSG, luckily for Al Nassr and that PSG will not play with mbappe, so I ask:

Could it be that this is Al Nassr's great chance to beat a team from Europe in these friendly games?

currently Al Nassr has the following players that in my opinion are the best in their squad: Cristiano Ronaldo, Marcelo Brozović, Seko Fofana, Anderson Talisca, David Ospina, Telles.

but it is still very insufficient to make them win the Saudi league, I don't know how many foreign players are allowed to be playing on the field, but in my opinion Al Nassr needs to hire more players, especially in the midfield which is where their big problem is, even if you change coach while there is some rule that prevents many foreign players on the field, so these many signings will be of no use, in my opinion the field should only have 3 internal players

Terrible results, but in fairness it should be said that these are not the weakest clubs in Europe (especially Benfica), although more could have been expected in the duel with Celta. I can assume that given the close ties between PSG and Saudi Arabia, the score in this friendly game will be more decent. Something like 3-4 in favor of PSG or even 3-3.
3298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: July 24, 2023, 11:54:22 AM
Looking back, I can't remember a really bad World Cup (even in a miserable country like Russia it was held at a good level). In fact, it is always a holiday and probably everyone (except those who were very disappointed like Brazil at their home World Cup  Grin ) always remembers such an event in a positive way. The World Cup in such a big and rich country like the USA will certainly be good too.
If we look at things from a positive perspective, then we will see something positive, conversely, if we look at things from a negative perspective, then all we will see is the negative. It's the same with the World Cup, I would say there is no perfect World Cup without any problems or anything like that. So it's just a matter of how we look at it.
I agree with you that each country has its own characteristics, we can't compare the World Cup held in country A with the World Cup held in country B, because those are 2 different countries. It might make more sense to compare World Cups held in the same country in different editions.

I do not remember that in one country the World Cup was held 2 times in a row, although even in this case a break of 4 years + the experience gained will greatly change the picture. The USA in 2026 will host the World Cup 22 years after the previous time, I hope I am not mistaken if I assume that simply due to progress it will be a higher level than then. By the way, in technical terms, this will be 100% true - do you remember how poorly TVs showed 20 years ago? For example, in hockey I didn’t even see the puck, but now on replays I can see how the stubble moves on the faces of the players.
3299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 24, 2023, 11:47:56 AM
Even if Manchester wants to buy Kane, it would be strange if Tottenham sell him to them as it's their direct competitor. It is more logical to sell Kane to Bayern Munich, there you can get money before the expiration of his contract and you don't strengthen your direct competitor with a player of such a class as Kane.
Apparently Kane still wants to win at least one title in his career, since he wants to go to Bayern and not to Saudi clubs. As long as he has goal sense and can score a lot and constantly, in Bayern just with this is not all right.

In general, Tottenham's transfer strategy is a mess lately, the club only sells players and buys almost no one.

City: treble and many years of dominance in the Premier League. Tottenham: nothing and 8th place Grin These clubs are as direct competitors as Bournemouth or Everton are City's competitors.
Tottenham want to keep Kane, but they will lose him - either now for good compensation or in a year for free. I don't think that when choosing between these two options, they are considering which competitor they will strengthen when Kane leaves them.
3300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 24, 2023, 11:39:40 AM
The funny thing is that Real Madrid is well aware that PSG is at an impasse, so they don’t even make proposals for the transfer of Mbappe  Grin Real Madrid is trying to squeeze all the juice out of this situation and it looks like they are succeeding. Even if they don't buy him now (I think they will), they will get him in a year, and PSG, which looked like a triumphant year ago, turned out to be a complete loser, since all options are not in their favor.

Considering how much it cost PSG to convince Mbappe to stay, it never looked like a triumph although I assume you mean that PSG outdid Real Madrid when they tried to buy him. The winner has always been Mbappe in all of this as the contract he signed with PSG was like a Royal Flush. He knew he could never be the loser in this irrespective of what his next move would be. But I don't know if PSG really cares about the money or whether they want to make it as cumbersome as possible in order to not look like amateurs in public. Eventually they will sell Mbappe and then say that they won't accept any player to play games with them and that is why he had to go.

Yes, I was referring to last year's battle when Real and PSG fought to sign Mbappe. By the way, I'm not at all sure that Mbappe benefited from that contract - he received only money, but burned his golden years in a Parisian swamp. As we see now, it is very easy for a player with a big name to earn money - you just need to go to Saudi Arabia, but it is impossible to return the lost years.
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