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July 25, 2023, 03:30:25 PM
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When they decide to loan out their existing players, of course they have considered the worst possibilities that they will face, one of which is as you said, being hit by injuries and so on. But we also have to look at it as an option, I mean when the players are in the squad but they don't play, then I think that's not a good thing, especially for the future of the player himself, especially if the player has good potential. The management must also be wise in seeing the opportunities for players on loan, especially in choosing a club that will provide many playing opportunities.

Yes maybe it is a disadvantage and advantage in itself, but in that choice there is the best choice, so choose the best of all choices. Players will also be happy if they are loaned out to a club that is ready to give them the opportunity to play, because for young players having many minutes to play is certainly a good thing.
And usually players who are loaned by a club to another club are players who have failed to enter the ranks of the core players in the squad built at that club. So that this player will also not be played much if he stays at the club if is not loaned out. But the club still has to pay even if the player doesn't contribute much. So lending players is indeed a good option for the financial condition of clubs who can get money from player loan agreements and players who are loaned will also have playing time at the club that borrowed their services. But the risks behind the profits are always there and it shouldn't be a problem that should be overly considered in these conditions.
Players who are loaned out are usually meant to increase their experience, as you said in this case when one club loaned out their players they did mean this to make them more able to develop because at the club they lived in could not compete with other players so their chances were very difficult to enter the main squad.
If the loan is successful and the player gets experience and more minutes, the hope is that this will make the loaned player more competitive when he returns but mostly if it is good sometimes it is also like a trial for the player and can use the permanent option after the loan is over.

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July 25, 2023, 03:34:16 PM
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It looks like Napoli are quite likely to keep Osimhen this summer. At least for now. Because there is no rumour regarding him to sign for another team these days. However there might be a chance for PSG to think of bringing him depending on Mbappe's situation. When they lose a player like Mbappe they need to bring another top player to try to make up for that.

Vlahovic has been rumoured with PSG maybe but in this case I think PSG can change their route to Osimhen instead. PSG are going to get 300 million euros as a transfer fee from Al-Hilal if Mbappe signs for them. They can surely use this money to sign a player like Osimhen.
Because Napoli has already made it clear to all clubs that Osimhen is not for this summer, Osimhen has transformed Napoli into a team that they haven't been in many years, and Napoli still believes that if Osimhen is there, they will still win the league once more. As for PSG, I don't think Osimhen will come to PSG because of the way PSG holds their players without allowing them to leave the team whenever they please. I am aware that PSG can make any offer to get any player of their choosing, but if they continue to treat other players the same way they treated Mbappe, nobody will want to join the squad.

We all know that money can change people's minds and can also make things go the way they want, but sometimes money can't change some people's minds. Due to the rumours I've heard, mbappe hasn't said anything about going to Al-Hilal. I believe that Saudi Arabians view sports as something that if there is money involved, they can have anything.
I feel like if given enough money any team could get him. The problem is that Napoli is asking for a lot of money, it's not that he is not for sale, but more like he is for sale for a lot of money, teams would have to overpay for him. However, we are hearing about PSG getting a 300 million offer from Al-Hilal, which means if its true then they could pay for the 150+ million to Osimhen, overpay for him, and replace Mbappe.

Maybe Osimhen could be as good or not as good but he will definitely be a good player there and they can sign like 5+ year deal with him and that will make it a lot better. Mbappe deal was too short, they made like just a few season deal with him and that's why they lost him, have a long term deal this time and they should be fine.

Think about the unthinkable! Cheesy What if Osimhen receives an offer from Saudi Arabia? Has that yet happened? I think I read about it once but now that we seem to have entered a whole new level as the offer from Al-Hilal shows, I have no idea what Osimhen would say and even Napoli when they also get an irresistable offer from a Saudi club. For now I think the only personnel issues that are safe are those where the transfer window is actually not open anymore. Otherwise I think we could still see some huge surprises as an offer could be made any time and with any amount.

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July 25, 2023, 03:55:24 PM
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I feel like if given enough money any team could get him. The problem is that Napoli is asking for a lot of money, it's not that he is not for sale, but more like he is for sale for a lot of money, teams would have to overpay for him. However, we are hearing about PSG getting a 300 million offer from Al-Hilal, which means if its true then they could pay for the 150+ million to Osimhen, overpay for him, and replace Mbappe.

Maybe Osimhen could be as good or not as good but he will definitely be a good player there and they can sign like 5+ year deal with him and that will make it a lot better. Mbappe deal was too short, they made like just a few season deal with him and that's why they lost him, have a long term deal this time and they should be fine.

Osimhen would be amazing and would be a valuable addition to any club in the Saudi league. I agree with you on your opinion that if given enough money, any team could take Osimhen away from Napoli. And yes, he’s for sale only for a lot of money lol.

They could easily bring in Osimhen from Napoli if they wanted and a 5+ year deal isn’t bad. But I would like to see Osimhen play in Europe than go over to the Saudi league. I think he’s still passionate about the sport and would love to still play real competitive football. He still has a long way to go before he decides to focus more on the money and perhaps retire to the Saudi league.

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July 25, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
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I don't think if Inter Milan will sell Lautaro Martinez, especially in this season when they need to have more forwards after Lukaku left this team because in recent weeks, they were getting far from Lukaku and a player like Martinez is very important for them right now.
However, they can surely earn too much money from selling this player.
I didn't hear any new offer for Lautaro Martinez except the Saudi big deal which was refused by the player. I assume he wants to continue in Europe and probably in Inter for at least another season.
Otherwise Inter are looking for Aston Villa goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez. Until now they offered quite low price which was rejected by them, €15m...
Even though he received a tempting offer from Saudi Arabia, he has no plans to leave Inter Milan. Lautaro Martinez is currently under contract with the Italian club until June 2026 and intends to stay in Serie A. Hopefully, he will have a better performance in the upcoming season.

€15 million bid for Emiliano Martinez was quickly turned down. It 's expected that Inter Milan will make a new and improved offer for the goalkeeper.
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July 25, 2023, 04:00:08 PM
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For any championship club there going to be new problems every other season. The only way that the club is going to be one of the best is by fixing those problems.


Of course, Napoli must prepare well for this season, however, being a defending champions, this will become a burden for players who have just joined. Coaches must be able to increase the confidence of new players so they can play well as a team. BTW, Napoli had a friendly match against SPAL with a final score of 1 - 1, maybe this cannot reflect Napoli's strength this season, but this match should be enough to serve as a "warning" for Spalleti. The real challenge will come!

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July 25, 2023, 04:19:08 PM
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Of course, Napoli must prepare well for this season, however, being a defending champions, this will become a burden for players who have just joined. Coaches must be able to increase the confidence of new players so they can play well as a team. BTW, Napoli had a friendly match against SPAL with a final score of 1 - 1, maybe this cannot reflect Napoli's strength this season, but this match should be enough to serve as a "warning" for Spalleti. The real challenge will come!

Overall this season there are not many changes to the Napoli squad they just released 3 players and brought in 3 players as well and Napoli can try it in pre-season matches, I don't see any mental constraints on them except on strategy because Napoli has a new coach so at least he has to understand the character of his players first it may take more time. If we monitor player transfer activity in Serie A, it seems that there are no competitors who are strengthening their squad instead most of them let go of important players  as we know, financial problems are the main factor.

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July 25, 2023, 04:37:43 PM
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Milan strategy didn't work very well, perhaps because the Milan mentally players weren't in good condition, so they performance not a very stable in the previous season. But yes at least in the previous season Milan managed to get a UCL ticket and they can sit in 4th position, although the fact they got lucky because Juventus had a point deduction, if not I think maybe Milan will sitting in 5th position. By the way, currently Milan has several new players, it is expected that they can work very well together for the title. But considering they are new players, then they must be adaptation as soon as possible with game style of Milan.
Milan was almost equal to the real madrid with its new squad. Im aware how fast acmilan is adapting with some new players in the club. Pulisic, RLC, etc have been adapting to the club very fast. Acmilan just need to hund more players for its defensive line.
I think that pioli was aware about all of goals that came from real madrid was coming from the middle range of shoots. That means there would be loop holes that must be fixed by buying a good defender.
So many people are putting their eyes on luka romero at this moment. He was very young but he was able making a goal against real madrid through his long shoot.

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July 25, 2023, 04:38:52 PM
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Of course, Napoli must prepare well for this season, however, being a defending champions, this will become a burden for players who have just joined. Coaches must be able to increase the confidence of new players so they can play well as a team. BTW, Napoli had a friendly match against SPAL with a final score of 1 - 1, maybe this cannot reflect Napoli's strength this season, but this match should be enough to serve as a "warning" for Spalleti. The real challenge will come!

Overall this season there are not many changes to the Napoli squad they just released 3 players and brought in 3 players as well and Napoli can try it in pre-season matches, I don't see any mental constraints on them except on strategy because Napoli has a new coach so at least he has to understand the character of his players first it may take more time. If we monitor player transfer activity in Serie A, it seems that there are no competitors who are strengthening their squad instead most of them let go of important players  as we know, financial problems are the main factor.

Although this match cannot be used as a benchmark but still, playing against Spal, which is also the fact that Spal is only a mediocre team which playing in Serie B. Then of course, Napoli should be able to win in this match, but Napoli only got a 1-1 draw. Meanwhile, the fact is that Napoli can still play Osimhen but still, Osimhen also seems unable to do much in this match to score goals and make Napoli win. Spal is also not a good team in Serie B and in fact, Spal also only finished in the relegation zone last season in Serie B standing. With such a big difference in quality, Napoli shouldn't only get a 1-1 draw against Spal in this match, quite disappointing.

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July 25, 2023, 04:57:50 PM
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Of course, Napoli must prepare well for this season, however, being a defending champions, this will become a burden for players who have just joined. Coaches must be able to increase the confidence of new players so they can play well as a team. BTW, Napoli had a friendly match against SPAL with a final score of 1 - 1, maybe this cannot reflect Napoli's strength this season, but this match should be enough to serve as a "warning" for Spalleti. The real challenge will come!

Overall this season there are not many changes to the Napoli squad they just released 3 players and brought in 3 players as well and Napoli can try it in pre-season matches, I don't see any mental constraints on them except on strategy because Napoli has a new coach so at least he has to understand the character of his players first it may take more time. If we monitor player transfer activity in Serie A, it seems that there are no competitors who are strengthening their squad instead most of them let go of important players  as we know, financial problems are the main factor.
I think it's very important for Napoli that the new coach can get the whole team right as soon as possible. If it doesn't happen quickly, there will be almost no chance to win. Also a good example is the last legendary coach of Manchester United, after whose leaving they never won the Premier League. It seems to me that Napoli could be something like that.
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Milan were on the decline in the Serie A after becoming the champions in the 2021/22 season. Of course it isn't an easy task for any team to become back-to-back champions in the league from now on. The competition level has got quite high compared to the past. You know how much Juventus were dominating the league before.

But at least Milan could have still performed better than that last season. Pioli still have 2 more years on his contract. Milan wanted to trust him for a quite long time. Milan at least managed to balance things a little more by reaching the semi finals in the Champions League and finishing the Serie A in top 4 as well.

But this time I think the board will expect to see a title competition in the league from them.
An appreciation for AC Milan who went beyond expectations in last season's Champions League, when this competition was dominated by clubs that had sufficient financial support from their owners, such as Man City, Madrid, PSG, Milan were still able to reach the semi-finals last season. Juventus dominance in the last decade came at a cost last season with point deductions, a fact why AC Milan and other Serie A Clubs have not been able to challenge them at the top of the table.

The movement of the Milan transfer market so far looks very good, Tonali, who was legoed to Newcastle. Provided funds for AC Milan to recruit new players such as Pulisic, RLC, Noah Okafor, Tijjani Reijnders, a good step to strengthen the squad for the upcoming season.

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July 25, 2023, 05:33:32 PM
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Although this match cannot be used as a benchmark but still, playing against Spal, which is also the fact that Spal is only a mediocre team which playing in Serie B. Then of course, Napoli should be able to win in this match, but Napoli only got a 1-1 draw. Meanwhile, the fact is that Napoli can still play Osimhen but still, Osimhen also seems unable to do much in this match to score goals and make Napoli win. Spal is also not a good team in Serie B and in fact, Spal also only finished in the relegation zone last season in Serie B standing. With such a big difference in quality, Napoli shouldn't only get a 1-1 draw against Spal in this match, quite disappointing.

On the 20th of July they played Anaun and won 6-1, so I don't think we can talk about any downward trend in performance. On the 29th they play another weak club, this time from Turkey - Hatayspor. Therefore, I think that a large score can be expected. However, I would like to see games with serious opponents.

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July 25, 2023, 06:23:31 PM
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Milan were on the decline in the Serie A after becoming the champions in the 2021/22 season. Of course it isn't an easy task for any team to become back-to-back champions in the league from now on. The competition level has got quite high compared to the past. You know how much Juventus were dominating the league before.

But at least Milan could have still performed better than that last season. Pioli still have 2 more years on his contract. Milan wanted to trust him for a quite long time. Milan at least managed to balance things a little more by reaching the semi finals in the Champions League and finishing the Serie A in top 4 as well.

But this time I think the board will expect to see a title competition in the league from them.
An appreciation for AC Milan who went beyond expectations in last season's Champions League, when this competition was dominated by clubs that had sufficient financial support from their owners, such as Man City, Madrid, PSG, Milan were still able to reach the semi-finals last season. Juventus dominance in the last decade came at a cost last season with point deductions, a fact why AC Milan and other Serie A Clubs have not been able to challenge them at the top of the table.

The movement of the Milan transfer market so far looks very good, Tonali, who was legoed to Newcastle. Provided funds for AC Milan to recruit new players such as Pulisic, RLC, Noah Okafor, Tijjani Reijnders, a good step to strengthen the squad for the upcoming season.
I think AC Milan is one Club to look out for in Serie A, I mean they introduced some quality players into various areas of the squad depth and that's one of the steps a club that's very ready to challenge for a trophy needs to take, tough some new signings from other clubs across Europe might find it hard to fit in maybe due to language barrier or change of environment but with time they're be ready and make a squad that won't only challenge in the Serie A but other European tournaments, they were the least expected to reach the semi finals though they lost to their rivals Intermilan, but increasing the squad depth with quality players means they stand a chance of having a better performance this season.
 And with the introduction of players like Pulisic and Okafor who are great potentials would be very beneficial to the team and their experience would help AC Milan be tough title contenders of their league, well I don't think the club is done with new signings yet, because there are rumours that chukwueze from Villareal be the number seventh signing this summer and AC Milan are expecting his arrival tomorrow and he'll undergo medicals to test his fitness and complete a transfer to the club,  judging from their match against Realmadrid I think The club should look into the defence area as well.
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July 25, 2023, 06:49:23 PM
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Napoli don't need to make big changes to their squad. Filling the places of the players who have left will be enough for them to be competitive for the Serie A title once again. For example they have lost a very important member in the defense line. Kim Min-jae has signed for Bayern Munich officially as you know.

They had better shift their focus to finding another solid and credible defender in his place. Other than that they should do their best to not lose other two crucial players who are Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia. As long as the squad integrity is maintained highly it will all be up to Rudi Garcia's creating a strong bond with the team to go for success.
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July 25, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
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It looks like Napoli are quite likely to keep Osimhen this summer. At least for now. Because there is no rumour regarding him to sign for another team these days. However there might be a chance for PSG to think of bringing him depending on Mbappe's situation. When they lose a player like Mbappe they need to bring another top player to try to make up for that.

Vlahovic has been rumoured with PSG maybe but in this case I think PSG can change their route to Osimhen instead. PSG are going to get 300 million euros as a transfer fee from Al-Hilal if Mbappe signs for them. They can surely use this money to sign a player like Osimhen.

Because Napoli has already made it clear to all clubs that Osimhen is not for this summer, Osimhen has transformed Napoli into a team that they haven't been in many years, and Napoli still believes that if Osimhen is there, they will still win the league once more. As for PSG, I don't think Osimhen will come to PSG because of the way PSG holds their players without allowing them to leave the team whenever they please. I am aware that PSG can make any offer to get any player of their choosing, but if they continue to treat other players the same way they treated Mbappe, nobody will want to join the squad.

We all know that money can change people's minds and can also make things go the way they want, but sometimes money can't change some people's minds. Due to the rumours I've heard, mbappe hasn't said anything about going to Al-Hilal. I believe that Saudi Arabians view sports as something that if there is money involved, they can have anything.

I think Napoli will be the most important player in this transfer window because there were many teams linked to this played and because of his performance we were even expecting to see a team like Real Madrid send him an offer to have Victor Osimhen for the next season but because of the huge amount of money, Napoli asks for this player that's a big hard for the team to even think about this player.

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July 25, 2023, 07:59:21 PM
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Because Napoli has already made it clear to all clubs that Osimhen is not for this summer, Osimhen has transformed Napoli into a team that they haven't been in many years, and Napoli still believes that if Osimhen is there, they will still win the league once more. As for PSG, I don't think Osimhen will come to PSG because of the way PSG holds their players without allowing them to leave the team whenever they please. I am aware that PSG can make any offer to get any player of their choosing, but if they continue to treat other players the same way they treated Mbappe, nobody will want to join the squad.

The price tag placed on Victor Osimhen is scary. Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis has made it clear that Victor will not be leaving for anything less than €150m. Maybe PSG might consider buying him after the departure of Mbapppe because they will have the financial power. PSG is not stopping Mbappe from leaving but they are doing what any club will do. Football is business and not charity work. No club will want to let one of the best strikers in the world leave without the club getting any financial benefit. The club has been good to Mbappe and has given him everything he wanted but he wants to treat the club badly.

Losing a strong defender like Kim Min-Jae will also affect Napoli's defense and I doubt they will finish in the top three next season. Unless Rudi Garcia can bring in another defender who is capable of providing a role like Kim Min-Jae and if it is true that Giovanni and Osimhen stay, then this is much better and they still have a mainstay in attack. Defending the title will be very difficult because Napoli have changed coaches and several mainstay players who leave can also affect the team, so Rudi Garcia's biggest test is how to try to maximize the strengths of existing players.

There is a need to buy more players to replace some important players that left the Napoli team. There was speculation that Napoli was considering signing Ibrahima Konate from Liverpool to replace Kim Min-Jae but it was unlikely that the English club will let him leave. The French defender has grown to be one of the best in the EPL. Borussia Monchengladbach's defender, Ko Itakura was also on the radar to replace the South Korean. The Japanese defender have been consistent and solid in the Bundesliga last season. And Napoli will be able to buy him at a good price.  Napoli has a tradition of grooming average players into world-class stars and selling them for a handsome reward. Rudi Garcia should take proactive steps before the close of the summer transfer window.

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July 25, 2023, 08:17:01 PM
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I think Napoli will be the most important player in this transfer window because there were many teams linked to this played and because of his performance we were even expecting to see a team like Real Madrid send him an offer to have Victor Osimhen for the next season but because of the huge amount of money, Napoli asks for this player that's a big hard for the team to even think about this player.

napoli is a team, not a player lol

Previously, there were three Napoli players who were highly targeted by the big teams, namely Osimhen, Min Jae An Kvarat, but so far only Min Jae has been successfully bought by Bayern Munich, for Osimhen and Kvarat, they are reportedly still gray. with osimhen's excellent form last season, he really deserves to be in real madrid, he is quite a talented striker as for kvarat, I'm a little worried he won't be fit to play in madrid.

other scattered information, newcastle is also trying their luck getting kvarat, it seems that Napoli will continue to be a concern in the transfer market.

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July 25, 2023, 09:21:25 PM
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Napoli don't need to make big changes to their squad. Filling the places of the players who have left will be enough for them to be competitive for the Serie A title once again. For example they have lost a very important member in the defense line. Kim Min-jae has signed for Bayern Munich officially as you know.

They had better shift their focus to finding another solid and credible defender in his place. Other than that they should do their best to not lose other two crucial players who are Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia. As long as the squad integrity is maintained highly it will all be up to Rudi Garcia's creating a strong bond with the team to go for success.

Yes but sometimes the gap that one special player leaves open after he left only becomes visible when the new season starts. So far it is only one player that we would describe as a key player, but if they can't replace him with equal quality, the problems could be bigger than expected. Napoli benefited a lot from a very stable defense last season for a long time and it was the balance between the defensive and offensive game that helped them get so far in Serie A.

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July 25, 2023, 09:34:16 PM
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Napoli don't need to make big changes to their squad. Filling the places of the players who have left will be enough for them to be competitive for the Serie A title once again. For example they have lost a very important member in the defense line. Kim Min-jae has signed for Bayern Munich officially as you know.

They had better shift their focus to finding another solid and credible defender in his place. Other than that they should do their best to not lose other two crucial players who are Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia. As long as the squad integrity is maintained highly it will all be up to Rudi Garcia's creating a strong bond with the team to go for success.

Yes but sometimes the gap that one special player leaves open after he left only becomes visible when the new season starts. So far it is only one player that we would describe as a key player, but if they can't replace him with equal quality, the problems could be bigger than expected. Napoli benefited a lot from a very stable defense last season for a long time and it was the balance between the defensive and offensive game that helped them get so far in Serie A.
Napoli did very impressively last season,they won their league and bagging most of the awards in their team.They had quality players who understood and complimented themselves in the field of play.They are thinking about retaining and defending the Tittle,but I think other  teams will not let that happen because they are not sure of keeping their star players like Osimhen  and the rest.Osihmen is contemplating on trying another league whether he can still gain that recognition is gained at his former league,and if he comes to England,I think it's going to be a different ball of game altogether,because the like of Haaland,Kane,Salah and other premier league strikers will not let him shine.I know Osimhen is a very good striker,but I doubt if he can score upto 20 goals in the English premier league. If he chooses to go to a team like Manchester United,he might see matches,but goals may not come just the way he may think despite the fact that he has all the qualities and phisicalities that the EPL requires.

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July 25, 2023, 09:40:34 PM
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Napoli don't need to make big changes to their squad. Filling the places of the players who have left will be enough for them to be competitive for the Serie A title once again. For example they have lost a very important member in the defense line. Kim Min-jae has signed for Bayern Munich officially as you know.

They had better shift their focus to finding another solid and credible defender in his place. Other than that they should do their best to not lose other two crucial players who are Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia. As long as the squad integrity is maintained highly it will all be up to Rudi Garcia's creating a strong bond with the team to go for success.

Exactly! I think like you too, Napoli must absolutely cover up for Kim's absence in their defence. Rudi Garcia knows the Italian championship well and I think he will show good performances with Napoli this season, they have to defend the title of Italian champions moreover, but above all Napoli must also compete in the Champions league and therefore some reinforcements in midfield will be needed

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July 25, 2023, 09:56:38 PM
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Of course, Napoli must prepare well for this season, however, being a defending champions, this will become a burden for players who have just joined. Coaches must be able to increase the confidence of new players so they can play well as a team. BTW, Napoli had a friendly match against SPAL with a final score of 1 - 1, maybe this cannot reflect Napoli's strength this season, but this match should be enough to serve as a "warning" for Spalleti. The real challenge will come!

Overall this season there are not many changes to the Napoli squad they just released 3 players and brought in 3 players as well and Napoli can try it in pre-season matches, I don't see any mental constraints on them except on strategy because Napoli has a new coach so at least he has to understand the character of his players first it may take more time. If we monitor player transfer activity in Serie A, it seems that there are no competitors who are strengthening their squad instead most of them let go of important players  as we know, financial problems are the main factor.
I think it's very important for Napoli that the new coach can get the whole team right as soon as possible. If it doesn't happen quickly, there will be almost no chance to win. Also a good example is the last legendary coach of Manchester United, after whose leaving they never won the Premier League. It seems to me that Napoli could be something like that.

I think Rudi can't perform well like Spalletti and Spalletti knew Napoli won't have a great season and earn achievement as they did in the last season.
In fact, one reason for Napoli to have this performance was the unstable situation of other teams and especially Inter Milan and Juventus otherwise they couldn't get these results and I think that's what we are going to see in the next season.

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